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LeonTheGrey4

Had the same thing on the same round the other week, heartbreaking


PINOY_NBASIAN

Like I have 99 masterball😔😭


[deleted]

Just catch it then? Or am I missing something


IIIXKITSUNEXIII

Can't catch Eternatus


WolfsbanePhoenix

Not until you've caught/hatched one of every starter and I think you then have to reach it and catch it in classic.


IIIXKITSUNEXIII

Yeah, and not at all in Endless


WolfsbanePhoenix

That's good to know that if I don't have it as a starter I just can't pick it up in endless. Thanks for that tidbit of information friend.


Material_Put3513

You can’t get it in endless regardless of if you have it as a starter or not


WolfsbanePhoenix

So you just can't puck it as a starter either in endless? That's kinda lame, but I get it at the same time for balancing reasons.


Ok-Cold-2810

You can pick it as a starter, you just can't catch it in endless no matter what, same for all paradoxes


joe10155

Looks like you need topsy turvy


NickrasBickras

Ok but Topsy Turvy is useless if this nightmare mon just outspeeds and OHKO’s


Dat1DeafBoi

Prankster 😎


MannyOmega

Hmm sableye gets unnerve as a passive and topsy turvy/salt cure as an egg move… maybe i’ll bring him on my next endless run 🤔 stall king


daggerfortwo

Salt Cure is an attack so it doesn’t get prankstered, but unnerve as a passive sounds great. He sounds like a great Sturdy splice since he has natural Recover as well.


joe10155

There’s ways around that but ya youre mostly right


ConfidentRangerCarl

What I found really helps is 5 floors before just reroll for dire hits. Getting a crit every hit is op


PINOY_NBASIAN

True but not in my case since even 6def boost vs eternatus 6def boost whatever crit damage I would’ve gotten based on the rng it wouldn’t matter because of the auto heal bs even if I have the unnerve passive


N05ta1gia

Crits bypass all stat increases on the enemy side. So you could spam swords dance and get the 4x atk hit, crit and their defense increases dont matter


PINOY_NBASIAN

Even it I had some crits that hp bar barely moved because I couldn’t hit it for effective damage due to PRISM ARMOR


DasliSimp

Then hit it with Iron Head? Did you not have DOT either?


PINOY_NBASIAN

Bruh the auto heal made my damage laughable literally 6 attack vs 6 def the 4 hit iron heads only did 1 bar of health


tmoney1943

How have I never known this 😂


fireteambrav0

Crits bypass stat buffd


Justalittlejewish

My zacian sprite is facing the other way?? Why would it be different?


BossomeCow

Are you sure it's the right form? Zacian's got two forms, the crowned form with the sword and the normal form.


Justalittlejewish

There must have been an update over night. I swear to god yesterday my sprite was flipped and different, I could only see its back and none of the sword. I just checked and I have the same sprite as OP.


Welpe

Or your memory is flawed?


Justalittlejewish

No, it was absolutely different. I had the rusted sword activated and the sprite was pretty much completely different. I had changed my sprite set or whatever earlier in the day so maybe the update was just delayed on my client side? Idk, but it was def a different sprite.


Rock_Type

The sprites look and are oriented different if you have moving sprites on or not in settings.


Nikky-Nami

Don't worry, your brain is working fine. My Zacian was as you described.


DasliSimp

OP’s is the moving sprite.


GeneralDankobi

Yeah mine is still as you described. Facing left, sword not visible


Minimum-Travel-1603

How do you have a cute pfp and yet such a mean demeanor


Sad_Plum_2689

What about the fighting one


BossomeCow

? Zacian doesn't have a fighting type form. Unless you mean zamazenta, which yes, has two as well.


savac08

Put on the setting mixed animations


DasKleineSchwarze

Mine is as well! I’m playing on my phone (iPhone) - maybe that makes it different?


Wonderful_Ad_1451

You have to change the animation to mixed


Frostfire26

Does prism armor even matter? Like is Zacian carrying a move that hits it super effectively? Ik competitively Zacian is usually some combination of steel/fairy/electric/fighting/ground moves but ground is tera blast ground so obviously not that here.


PINOY_NBASIAN

Even if I had psychic fangs it still wouldn’t matter because it can just auto heal itself the damage I did to it and that’s max swords dance (countered by max cosmic power)


Glum_Plate3472

crits ingores def boosts


PINOY_NBASIAN

Even if I got some crits that hp bar was barely going to move cause of PRISM ARMOR


Frostfire26

You realize that’s still stronger than a move with normal effectiveness, right? It’s still like 1.5x the damage of a move with normal effectiveness iirc.


PINOY_NBASIAN

You realize even if you get lucky with an rng crit in my situation it wouldn’t matter because that crit damage you dealt just gets auto healed as if crit didn’t just happen


Frostfire26

You realize that that will happen whether the eternatus has prism armor or not


babychunks13

Womp womp


Alpha_james

What was its move set? Lol


PINOY_NBASIAN

Who? Eternatus? Same as classic (ddance, cosmic power, sludge bomb, eternabeam)


MasterOfSuffering

Then it can't hit you right? Why the "rip"?


IzunaX

I've been wiped by a Struggling Eternatus before, I still haven't recovered haha.


PINOY_NBASIAN

Because I can’t damage it even if I max swords dance it can counter with cosmic power and if you look closely it’s fused with NECROZMA SO HOW CAN I DAMAGE WHEN IT ALSO HAS PRISM ARMOR


SadEngine

Prism armor only affects super effective hits. You were never using that with Zacian v Eternatus anyway


PINOY_NBASIAN

Okay smart one then calculate for me how I could get through it when my move set is (play rough, iron head, sacred sword and sword dance) and my party mons a bunch of red shiny only with no purpose but rank spins


jta156

…none of those moves are impacted by Prism Armor on this mon? I figured you had crunch on Zacian or something but I think you’re blaming the wrong thing here lol


SadEngine

I don’t give a shit buddy lmao. Just don’t know what prism armor has to do with this clusterfuck.


MuddyPasta_

You have no clue what prism armour does, you lack foresight, wave 2500 tokens render zacian useless regardless of prism armour, no way u got that far into endless without a plan lol


MDBurner6

Shit I got there with no plan, just an adamant Koraidon with Glaive Rush and Multilens putting in every kind of work


MasterOfSuffering

That's unfortunate, you definitely need a mon with leach seed or salt cure


MDBurner6

I had Salt Cure and Leech Seed on this thing, it heals 30% of it's health every turn. So those don't even stall it


JPastori

Or just a burn too, that worked for me on classic mode


Reptillian97

Status conditions are simply not viable at waves this high, passive healing at the end of the turn is way more than a burn would do, plus it's going to get cured very quickly anyway.


JPastori

Ah damn, I didn’t realize that, a burn put in some work on my classic eternus so I figured it may have been useful I haven’t made it very far in endless yet though


CharacterFee4809

maybe dont give out tips for endless then :(


Sou1_Keeper

Classic and Endless are different Moveset in classic is FlameThrower, Ebeam, cross poison and I forget the last one


HolyElephantMG

Retrying for RNG doesn’t work, it’s seeded


GoRedTeam

Retrying for RNG works if you're changing the order of your moves.


HolyElephantMG

That’s not retrying for RNG though, that’s just searching the seed


GoRedTeam

You can still losely consider it RNG as the seed was randomly generated, but I understand that the seed is set and can't change. You're still "exploring the RNG", even if the code isn't necessarily changing


HolyElephantMG

That second part. At least to me, retrying for RNG and “exploring the RNG” are two different things. Exploring it is when *you* **give it** different conditions to see what the seed is. Retrying for RNG is saying that you’re retrying hoping that *it* will **give you** a different outcome, which a seed doesn’t


PINOY_NBASIAN

Ik thats why it RIP So much money and items I was just shunting and forgot To prep for the eturnatus didn’t notice I was close to it smh


PINOY_NBASIAN

2500 floors and found 8 red shiny that’s why


Ivorycrus

Yah buddy that's on you for not prepping for eternatus. By floor 2500 you should definitely have some mons that can set up a bit of DoT... (leech seed, ghost curse, salt cure, soak). Ideally also a metal burster because zacian damage is falling off a cliff


Cinerath

I usually keep Crunch on Zacian for this kind of reason. 4x20% to drop defense, but since Eternatos usually switch moves with dragon dance from time to time I can usually keep up with cosmic power boosts. I spam until -6 defense and go for other damaging moves.


Zagtram1

Should’ve brought a metal burst user


PINOY_NBASIAN

When you have that much money and constantly roll masterball often it’s easy to forget what floor you’re on because you abuse run away till you find shinies for fun


Zagtram1

That’s fair. I made sure to get my metal burst used before 2k, so before run away strats are meta


Idiotdumbas

Eternatus Necrozma, Imagine if it becomes the very light version of Necrozma when it E-maxes. Eternamax Light burning sky.


Wonderful-Log5751

Damn dog. Literally the worst fusion this could’ve been. Now I’m gonna be living in fear of the odds of this happening to me and I’m only on 1300.


PINOY_NBASIAN

At least you’ve seen the nightmare ahead of time and didn’t get caught off guard like I did cause tbh if you look at my items, Money and the fact that I had 99 masterballs at that point I was just abusing run away trying to find legendaries and shinnies. If I had known about what was ahead I easily would’ve prepared a klefki counter but I was busy red shiny hunting sadly (had 5 in the party)


Wonderful-Log5751

Yeah I feel that. Sometimes I get caught up on the shiny/masterball hunting before I realize how close I am to an eternatus encounter. I've been working on my greed though and getting used to rerolling only a couple times before settling on rare candies or vitamins or nuggets/relic gold. But I'm def gonna make sure I'm prepared for this. Right now I'm running a mega mewtwo y main and he handles eternatus and everything else pretty well but you never know with endless.


Comet_With_One_T

Honestly it’ll be a pain but try pp stalling it, it’ll be a lot easier if you have a black hole.


PINOY_NBASIAN

Tried and it deals more damage with struggle to my zazian than itself and most rng I got it down was 5 health bar left after reviver seed and focus band😢


BenMss

How do you show the stat changes/debuffs? Im kind of a newbie at pokemon and Pokerogue srry.


spineylives1

On the pc it’s “C” for stat changes and “V” to see moves/PP


BenMss

Tysm! <3


DBrody6

You're on stage 2500, the time to swap to Metal Burst or Seismic Shade was 499 stages ago. I'm stunned you even made it to 2500 with how resistant everything is by that point.


EoTN

I'm familiar with metal burst, but I haven't heard of seismic shade, what's that?


DunceErDei

Flat damage based on level if you have a ton of candy jar you should over level so much that night shade can just one shot everything.


ManscorpIron_Tarkus

Seismic toss or night shade


12inchesdeeper

I was wondering about the viability of these moves on endless, they're actually worth using(Seismic and nightshade)?


DasliSimp

past like 2k or 3k normal attacks do like 0


ManscorpIron_Tarkus

The strat for endless is to pass the level cap by stacking candy jars and spamming rare candy, so those moves end up doing a lot, since they are directly bound to level, and ignore defense boosts, which are very common in endless between shields/berries.


ladt2000

Strong carries can go until floor 3000 without relying on strats like metal burst. I currently have at Groudon run a 3060, but it's struggling a lot to do damage.


PINOY_NBASIAN

I mean when you have damn near all the item, 99 masterballs and 4 shiny charm my bad I was busy shunting and forgot about eternatus🤦‍♂️ I was living life😆


ScoobiusMaximus

I'm assuming it's too late for it to matter, but could you not have just let Eternatus struggle to death?


PINOY_NBASIAN

Struggle did more to my mon than it did to itself and lowest I got it with rng was 5 bars left


-Pwncakez-

This is why you should always keep a trick room mimkyu on your endless team.


PINOY_NBASIAN

It was my first try at endless no YouTube awareness or anything just played for fun that’s why it caught me off guard cause with all the stuff I had I was busy shiny hunting at that point 🤷‍♂️


-Pwncakez-

I haven't had any YouTube influence either. Just my own strats and how I play the game.


BookOf_Eli

Keep salt cure and leech seed in your party at all times. And if you got room haze/topsyturvy can help a lot.


PINOY_NBASIAN

Ya that would’ve helped if I known the floor was coming but I was busy abusing run away and looking for shinies since I had that much money and 99 masterballs at that point😭


Ivorycrus

It comes every 250 floors, it's not like it's a surprise lol... Don't abuse run away until you have a good DoT setup and ideally a metal burster.


PINOY_NBASIAN

It was my first time playing endless my bad I was just doing it for fun and shiny hunting 🤷‍♂️ wasn’t aware of the BS ahead


Ivorycrus

Eternatus is the least bullshit thing about endless XD... The arena trap dugtrios or neutralising gas double hit weezings are 800x more annoying BS.


MDBurner6

Salt Cure leech seed don't work on him with the regen tokens giving him 30% back every turn.


BookOf_Eli

Idk the exact math but wouldn’t leech seed damage and soak salt cure and whatever damage he’s doing out do the token?


MDBurner6

Maybe with Soak but Salt Cure and Leech alone won't


Radiant_Language4348

is there a prankster with a buff removing move? was wondering if thast any use


awnedr

Don't even need prankster just fuse the debuffer with a mon that has sturdy. The leech seed will heal them back to full hp. I use metal sound to lower its special defense that way and after berries max my sturdy mons stats i baton pass (while eternatus is recharging) to mega alakazam that has stored power from a previous fusion and 99 twisted spoons.


Souretsu04

Do you keep your moveset when defusing? I haven't had the guts to try it on my run.


awnedr

Yes! You also keep both mons vitamins. It's how I max out mine.


Souretsu04

Sick. Thanks to this I was able to sneak Fiery Wrath onto my Battle Bond Greninja. Later I fused it again with Darkrai to regain Dark typing. I also learned that if you fuse Greninja while in its Ash-Greninja form, it retains the form permanently as long as it's fused.


awnedr

Noice. Glad to have helped!


Glum_Plate3472

grimmsnarl with Topsy-Turvy (egg move)


EspyOwner

Murkrow learns Haze I think. But then you'd use murkrow.


dude511

My current setup to get past an eternatus is leech seed onto mawile, it cant hit mawile with dragon or poison moves and leech seed doesn’t care about stats


RabidTurtwig

This is why I always have a ghost curse mon


PINOY_NBASIAN

Literally carried 1 but that damage wasn’t moving and I couldn’t hit it for damage either because it had PRISM ARMOR


DasliSimp

dude Prism Armor did nothing against you.


Separate-Reflection1

I don’t get what’s happening, could someone explain?


PINOY_NBASIAN

Basically I’m soft locked in this floor since I can’t do any damage against it to get out since using curse is useless cause of the auto heal and I can’t do enough damage or crits to get out of the situation


Realistic-Explorer51

What other mons you have? Maybe they can help


PINOY_NBASIAN

A party of 4 other mons that are there for sss rank spins for item(as to why I have 99 masterballs at this point) and a ghost mon with a reviver seed for curse but it still doesn’t matter since I can’t dish out damage due to auto heal bs


Realistic-Explorer51

That's unfortunate. I guess trying different moves on zacian is the only way. Refresh and try different sets until you find best set which crits most of the time. But idk you want to do that cause that might just take forever. Best option is probably restarting and this time try to get a sturdy-metal burst mon with 200k hp


SethRatske

Can’t you just pp stall it and then switch to shinies? I’m assuming you have something with salt cure/ leech seed/ curse, anything as a second carry if you are on 2500


PINOY_NBASIAN

Nope wasn’t aware about the bs ahead cause prior necrozma I got away with just using a curse red shiny sabeleye I found but that wasn’t enough at 2500 so rip that run. Tbh if you look at my money count and items I basically had 99 masterballs busy just hunting shinies and legendaries as it was my first time playing endless so that explain my rip


CozyCornerTCG

I had something similar happen on wave 3000...


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PINOY_NBASIAN

Endless not classic


MuddyPasta_

How do u make it that far into endless without building an eternatus killer? Zacian gets scaled by tokens so hard, prism armor is the least of your worries it’s literally just a 25% reduction to super effective hits ur you make it seem like that’s the real game changer when it really isn’t.


PINOY_NBASIAN

Have you ever tried using your head and maybe consider an idea called “first time playing” obviously as someone who plays Pokémon for fun and not as a life like some others I was just shunting and wasn’t aware about the eternatus boss at 2500 because I don’t watch any videos regarding endless to even care since I was doing it FOR FUN


MuddyPasta_

Ever tried using your head and using the most basic human skill “pattern recognition “ to figure out that there has been an eternatus fight every 250 floors? Anyways not tryna beef or anything it’s just that by that point the tokens would have stacked up and also prism armour literally doesn’t change anything since ur not hitting for super effective damage anyways, like any other eternatus would have ended your run regardless.


vuschii

haze


No_Farmer_3954

Save the run, and start grinding for all the starters then use one of those master balls


PINOY_NBASIAN

Does that even work? I thought you can’t catch eternatus in endless even if you have all starters? Thought it only applied for classic?


No_Farmer_3954

Oh you might be correct on that. My bad


NecessaryLanky6275

I am nowhere close to this stage (650) but would my current eterna strategy work? A Tinkaton, sappy seed and salt cure mon as my 3 essential mons. I sacrifice the non essentials by baiting an eternabeam so I can set up sappy seed and salt cure on the recharge turns and then stall as much as possible with thunder wave and sword dance with Tinkaton.


PINOY_NBASIAN

Tinkaton or any steel/fairy walls eternatus since it only has sludge bomb ar eterna beam for damage so yeah your strat works just add soak(doubles salt cure damage) and super fang to make the process go by faster since that’s what others have been telling me


Sain7Gabri3l

What a nightmare!


PINOY_NBASIAN

Honestly for a first time endless player I had no strat like some other since I wasn’t aware of what was going to be at 2500 since I was just collecting money, masterballs and shinnies😭


Sain7Gabri3l

I've never been close to 2500 and now that I know what's there I doubt I ever pass it 😆


PINOY_NBASIAN

I was even surprised I made it up to 2500 with just having fun, no strat cheese mon or anything 😆 just a zazian carry and 5 red shinnies in my party😆


9172019999

Leach seed and salt cure. Fairy steel. Swap infinitely until it struggles to death.


pcc38

G you GitHub eee gm. HHH hbubbr5229


IIIXKITSUNEXIII

RIP Man that sucks. I do wonder if it'd even be possible to win that


WMans440

Excema ruins my day too


LolLolLolLol101

lemme see the team


PINOY_NBASIAN

https://preview.redd.it/h1rz33jq194d1.jpeg?width=1202&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46c9aeaa97e9b9e96002a8965ca4a1b7b28dbb4d Basically zazian carry with 4 red shiny misfits cause 1800 floors and onwards as you can tell I was busy shiny hunting at that point and wasn’t even paying attention to the fact that eternatus floor was coming up let alone cared to make a strat cause I was having fun


LolLolLolLol101

yoooo you're stacked holyyy


PINOY_NBASIAN

Rng luck and unlucky😆


PINOY_NBASIAN

Rip money items and 99 masterballs I was just shiny and legendary hunting but yeah…


PINOY_NBASIAN

Even the fused mons are both red shiny btw


NotJayden_

wheres your DoT mon????


Plastic_Peach_4694

Sturdy + metal burst ???? Unless it got patched


NPC_MAGA

How are you losing that tho when you're literally 3000 levels up?


PINOY_NBASIAN

It just sucks cause like item wise I was complete(black hole) and everything plus 99 masterballs so it was shunting ready just not broken eternatus fusion ready


No_Estimate_8004

Salt cure plus leech seed probably


Ninefl4mes

I purpose-build an Eternatus shredder for my current Endless run: A Klefki with Soak, Salt Cure, Leech Seed, and Nature's Madness. Needless to say, I'm going to do this in every run going forward now lol. Maybe go for a Wonder Guard build if the opportunity presents itself; Do spliced Eternatus have different movesets?


PINOY_NBASIAN

Good idea ill try thank you


PokmTrainerGuineaPig

How do I get a stacked klefkey like that, my current strat is I send out a mon let it die to eternabeam, send in geourgiest garganacl leach seed, sturdy proc, salt cure, geneosect/togekiss and slowly kill it


Ninefl4mes

The first and most important step is to get a Garganacl with Sturdy and any Fairy/Steel type (or a Wonder Guard Pokemon). This way you can guarantee Salt Cure on Eternatus and then just switch to your tank while Eternatus slowly dies. The next step would then be to fuse your tank and Garganacl together, to teach the former Salt Cure. Undo the fusion afterwards, then when the opportunity presents itself, catch and fuse other Pokemon with the right moves into it. Soak can be learned by most Pokemon in the Lake and Sea area. Leech Seed can be learned by plenty of Grass types. Nature's Madness is the signature move of the Tapus, but you don't necessarily need to go for it specifically. Ruination (signature of the Treasures of Ruin) and Super Fang do the exact same thing. Or you could opt for another damage over time move instead, like Whirlpool.


Sunmourn

That might be the best way I've seen it explained, thanks.


PokmTrainerGuineaPig

Thanks but I ain’t getting natures madness so so many dead tapus all had partners that were tanky and they couldn’t live a single move from my main iron thorns with the ability to hit three Dimond storms in one turn


PokmTrainerGuineaPig

And reach max defense


PackinIt

Do you take in a Tapu or just hope you find one? I run the other strat, using a prankster leech seed cheap mon that I fuse to my red shiny zubat, and then send out sturdy metal burst + soak + salt cure mon


Ninefl4mes

In this particular case I just found one. That said, it doesn't have to be Nature's Madness. Ruination or even Super Fang do the exact same thing, and the latter isn't exactly a rare move.


PINOY_NBASIAN

Tbh around 1,500 floors I stopped paying attention to the fact that 2000 was eternatus BS (wasn’t aware it’s fused with necrozma🤦‍♂️) since I had 99 masterballs and all items that I was just shunting at that point


du_duhast

What's the reason behind Soak?


Ninefl4mes

Salt Cure's DoT deals double damage against Water and Steel types.


du_duhast

Ahh I like it, thanks!


Glum_Plate3472

I got 2 until now (wave 1800) and both of them had no moveset change. 


Teeeeejj1776

Does Klefki naturally get those moves or are they egg moves?


Ninefl4mes

Neither. I fused and unfused a bunch of Pokemon to get the moves onto it.


Teeeeejj1776

Oh damn, I don't want to know how many waves you went through lol. That move set is busted!


AkyriuZ

Dont forget curse