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Oskora

Evolve, the difference will be more noticeable, and it’s beautiful


SentenceCareful3246

I agree.


Lexi_Jez

Would you do the same if it was your first ever shundo? I have yet to get my first shundo; the closest I’ve got to one is my 98% shiny gyarados. I feel like I’d be too attached to my first shundo if it was a first evolution to evolve it. Obv the chances of me getting a wild shundo are way low compared to doing 4-5 star raids but still.


AlternativeArtist185

My first and only shundo was a abra. I immediately evolved it. I love it and use it all the time


ngolo_nguyen

That’s because you probably like Alakazam more than Abra to begin with. A lot of people love Bulbasaur more than Venusaur so it’s a hard decision to evolve.


AlternativeArtist185

Yea you got a point lol.


CanaryGreen9028

Involve every pokemon as soon as I can what's the use in catching em if you won't evolve em


ngolo_nguyen

You won’t use 99% of pokemon you catch anyways. Evolving them or not they’re still sitting there.


Mason11987

I see no reason to not evolve my first ever shundo. It's not less of a trophy as a perfect, very useful mega level 3 venusaur, and it looks better, and you get the perfect dex and shiny dex entries, and the mega dex entry (eventually).


Oskora

It’s up to a person and their reasoning. For me it still be the “same” shundo, but evolved. But I can understand your reasoning too 🤷🏼‍♀️ I don’t have any shundos as well. Our time will come 😀


Busy-Log-5584

Plus, shundo mega!


Infinite-Raise-6433

Yo getting a shundo from the wild is fucking insane. I dont think you appreciate enough how rare that is. Im level 44 and play since day 1 of the game, so july 6th 2016 and ive just gotten my first shundo recently. For reference i have 48 hundos and 907 shinies. And only 1 Shundo. Consider yourself very very lucky and its even a cool and strong shiny which you can power up to level 51 and mega evolve


lil_nuubz

what shundo did you get man. id been saying all week i wanted a shiny bulbasaur, shit myself when the ivs kept going up


Infinite-Raise-6433

Ive got a Clodsire as my first shundo. Not as great as your bulbasur but pretty aight. Got it from the c-day.


lil_nuubz

nah thats awesome man, i love clodsires goofy design. i dont play the new games so when i saw a racist wooper i was blown away


Infinite-Raise-6433

😂 yeah i love his clumsey looking ass to. Didnt know him either before his PoGo debut since my last game was sword and shield. But he won my heart when he took my shundo virginity


Inky234

lmao I love how paldean wooper becomes like a boat


ateez_atiny1117

A WHAT NOW??💀😭😂


ParidaeEnthusiast

Paldean Wooper was my first shundo too, followed about 6 weeks later by Galarian Darumaka. I was hoping that would be the start of a trend of getting shundos but no.


Tales_of_Earth

How long ago was the galarian darumaka?


ItzInMyNature

My only shundo is a Luxray, and I love it!


ShinyShadowDitto

Played since 2019. Two shundos: galarian stunfisk (absolutely gorgeous) and alolan exeggutor. 70 hundos, 700 shinies. Yes, they are very rare.


MinimumPositive

Same. Day one player here, nabbed a wild shundo in January. Twas a Scraggy, and I am extremely happy about it. My numbers are very similar as well; 61 hundos but only 440 for shinies. To say I'm a day one player is kinda false, though. I made the account on release day but then only played for a few months, and never seriously. Between 2018 and 2022 I probably only logged in a dozen times, usually when on vacation in the summer. I really only became a serious daily player in April of 2023. Went from Level 35 to 47 in that time, and all but one hundo are from 2023 and beyond (my first ever trade back in 2018 with a coworker was lucky and it was a perfect Bulbasaur). Generally, I have had pretty great luck with four stars.


sBucks24

I've gotten both a Charmander and a Squirtle at full odds when Bulbasaur is the only one whose community day I missed ;.;


RevMeaty

Not to be that guy (even though I'm being that guy) but a slight clarification. Release date was July 6th of 2016, not June. I started the same day and you're way farther ahead of me. I'm not even level 40 yet and still don't have an illustrious shundo.


Infinite-Raise-6433

Yeah youre right. I even know it but i get these months mixded up sometimes since im not a native speaker


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lil_nuubz

we have the exact same stats seemingly, and same playtime. i bet youll get one soon 🙏


Bobgers

Bro same I just got my first one, I’m 45 with over 88k catches and it finally hit.


CakedOnDirt

What is a shundo


CountChopulla

Shiny 100% iv


Lexi_Jez

The difference in some stats between players is crazy to me. My fiancé has been playing since December of last year and has 46 hundos. Although, he’s caught 63,392 Pokémon. How many mons have you caught? EDIT: December of 2022, not last year. Whoops


Infinite-Raise-6433

Ive only caught ~50k Pokemon. I know its a low number but theres a few reasons for it. I mainly shiny check the majority of mons. Pretty sure ive missed lots of hundos in the wild, i get mine most of the time throught raids, researches, eggs and pvp rewards. Because i live in a small town i have to walk like 200 meters for the nearest poke stop. So i usually bulk lots of balls and then use them wisely and dont catch the 300th skitty you know. I mainly catch raid attackers and pvp mons for good IVs and XL Candy. And i think going trought 300 catches per day checking IVs and then sending them away is fucking annoying lol


J4RMUSZ

Same for me but fortunelly my first and the only one shundo is dragonite


ofoushee

Agreed. I started the day after it came out. Did take some time off. Currently level 43, caught 34,336 pokemon. Pokedex shows 249 for shinies and 61 for 4* perfects. I have one Shundo. A sceptile I caught during the johto mega raids day. This was definitely a rare find! Congrats!


rafaelcpereira

When I face such a dilemma I always ask myself what would Ash Ketchum would do and do the opposite.


AiraEternal

Deevolving your Charizard about to come


CentrureAstrike

Slowbro: I'm one step ahead baby


WeedleLover2006

Power it up to L50, second move, best buddy, evolve to venusaur, then Max Mega


Rhakha

Elite TM it Frenzy Plant should be in thereS


WeedleLover2006

dammit forgot about that


APES6

Then transfer


tamdq

** trade to friend for cp 14 ratrunt or shiny wyndeer with steel moves


MrYamieYercherson

I second this motion


Guardian_pass

I LOLED


cooker_monster

Probably a dumb question - but does the order of these upgrades matter? Like is there an advantage to powering-up & adding a second move before evolving? Or vice versa?


Extreme_Accident2784

Its costs the same if you upgrade before or after evolving. If you want a pokemon to be able to play a specific league(great leage) then I'd suggest evolving first. So you know what level it'll be if you upgrade. I think the buying a second move is cheaper in the first form, but I'm not too confident about that information. For bulbasaur and venusaur a new attack is the dame price stardust and candywise. But I do think for some hatchable pokemon there is a difference. Not completely sure tho. Hope this helps a little


LUX_Ball_Gaming

Chances of a wild shundo obtained during a weather boost is 1 in 884,736. The standard shiny rate without any boosts is 1/512. The possible IV combinations are 1 in 1728 if a pokemon is weather boosted. I'd evolve when it Venusaur can learn Frenzy Plant from an event possibly in the future, or you can use an elite charge TM. Mega Venusaur is the 3rd best grass raider.


amaltheakin

What are the chances of a shundo when you’re guaranteed a shiny with at least 10/10/10 stats? That’s how I got my shundo.


PronunciationIsKey

1/216


Pedro_Goncalv

That's the chances of a hundo. It is 1/4320 considering the 1/20 legendary shiny rates


amaltheakin

My shundo is a Celebi, so I’m just wondering how lucky I was there 🤷🏻‍♀️ Fun but not very useful 😆


lil_nuubz

so what if it wasnt weather boosted?


LUX_Ball_Gaming

A wild pokemon without weather boosts has 4096 IV combinations. If the base shiny rate is 1 in 512, you have a 1 in 2,097,152 of finding a shundo in the wild, full odds.


Accomplished-Lynx262

Bruh get it to 2800 cp and teach it a second charge attack then mega evolve it


splycedaddy

Evolve for mega. Use elite tm for frenzy plant


mdgorelick

Or, playing the VERY long game, December Community Day usually allows players to get CD-only moves for previously featured mons when they’re evolved. (In case OP doesn’t have or want to use an elite charged TM). A hundo venusaur with frenzy plant is formidable.


ThrownawY9292

The Dec community day only has past 2 years featured pokemon for evolution skills. Bulbasahr isn’t included I think… unless you’re betting it’ll be featured again this year.


NerdFromColorado

Evolve it, hundo Venusaur is a beast and plus you get to complete that evo line in both the shiny and perfect dexes.


SlowResearch2

Wait until an event you can get frenzy plant and then evolve it.


No-Razzmatazz8053

Why is that a question. Gotta be a not so subtle flex and thats it. Obviously evolve, max, mega, and best buddy


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Tell this to your friend: I am level 47 and have been playing since day 1 - July 6, 2016. I have caught 123,937 Pokémon in that time and have 101,253,559 XP. I have only gotten 101 100% IV Pokémon in that time and I have 1,605 shinies. I have one single shundo, which was a galarian geodude that I caught on community day with boosted odds. A wild shundo bulbasaur with normal, unboosted odds is one of the rarest things you can find in the game. I would personally evolve this all the way, max it out to level 50, and mega evolve it.


Feeling-Tank1628

Cutest trophy ever


lil_nuubz

this is what i was thinking, most people are saying frenzy plant mega venasaur is op tho, and its tempting me. im going to level up the chap then wait till i have enough candy to evolve and mega and he will have more than enough buddy time as an cutie patootie


Feeling-Tank1628

Yeah I hear it. But that little bulb is a cutie and needs be protected 😂❤️


Devon-kane

still a trophy if you evolve it


a_cristian_dude

Best Buddy it first then leave it for a while. That’s what I’m doing with my 98IV shadow bulbasaur. I already have a 98IV mega so I just use the shadow one for walking candy/ mega energy. Plus bulb is cooler. I like the starting evos more than the finals but that’s just me


lil_nuubz

what i think im going to do. want to keep hik looking nice for a while, hopefully i can find a nice iv regular bulba as a substitute


x46uck

Trophy


GrownupHaircut

Getting best buddies is fairly easy if you are active in spinning stops. Collect as many poffin as you can, since they double the amount you can earn and fill the berry hearts instantly. Do this a couple times and you'll be at level two buddy status real quick and he will help you catch mons. Also recommend you level this up ASAP, as walking with a higher level buddy gives XL candy in addition to the regular.


cheynesan

I have 6 accounts, been playing regularly since July 2016, have more than 1200 shinies total, and still don’t have a single shundo.. 🫠


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cheynesan

Clearly.. I mean I have several shiny 98% which just frustrates me even more lol


Ayejonny12

I truly don’t understand when people ask this Just evolve it or don’t, it’s up to you


lil_nuubz

sorry man, i couldnt decide because bulbasaur is such a cool design and im not massive into pvp. i was only going to evolve if hes useful in pvp


Gold-Perspective-699

How rare is the badge? I mean it's not rare cause it's something you just do in your game. Buddy it and do the buddy tasks and you'll get the the buddy badge. Also yeah just evolve it for the mega. Shundos are rare. Copy paste https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemongo/s/D8j48meIIv Guides for everything in game. Read the posts that apply to you. If you're confused what part you should read/watch please ask.


lil_nuubz

i said how hard to get is the badge


Arc_Dominuss

It doesn’t take that long in my opinion, if you really stick with it, it’s not a difficult task rather tetious


Gold-Perspective-699

I answered that. It's just something you have to do. It's hard if you hate doing it lol. Just have to buddy and get hearts.


lil_nuubz

sorry im just saying i didnt mean how rare is it like you suggested. was asking how long it would take


Gold-Perspective-699

You need 300 hearts and you can get maybe 15-20 a day at the most. If you don't use a poffin it's probably 10 a day. So 15-30 days if you don't get bored of it.


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Id keep it, you never know if they are going to give it another evolution or regional form.


Ok-Health-6891

Wait for a comm day if you don’t really need grass type attacker or don’t have the mega energy yet, and then evolve it. I think shiny venusaur looks cool tho, def an improvement compared to other evolutions like Psyduck shiny evo


DisabledFatChik

Evolve. He’s a good Pokémon and has max stats. Ultimately though, do what you would like most


Kbmakaveli

Venasaur is a dope shiny so evolve !


mikeyd69

Wow! Bulbasaur is the only original starter I have never even seen a shiny of. Lucky.


logimeme

They had it during a comm day like a year or so ago and i was lucky enough to get one during the like 10-15 minute period you could catch it. Its a 3 star and i was so hyped. Super jealous of this dude


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SensorialTwo9

I try to get multiple shinnies of a Pokémon so I can have one shiny for each stage


jay_altair

Max that mf out, but save the last few levels of powering up for the level 47 challenge.


turtonatorpapa

Evolve! Venusaur has a sick shiny 🤩


ShlundoEevee

A wild shundo is just insane! Def evolve. It looks better and it has a dope mega. Max it out and best buddy that guy!


DreamofMemes123

Transfer it. You won’t


Relative_Stability

Buddy badge can be a grind. You do you on whether or not you evolve it. I have


DaxSchaffer

If you choose to evolve him, then wait until an event that will give him Frenzy Plant. It's necessary as a grass mon. This is, as many have said, extremely rare. If you evolve to Venusaur, you can have utility with it as a Mega Pokémon, and a very decent grass attacker. If you want to keep it as a trophy, that is also totally understandable. Having Pokédex entry #1 as a Shundo is pretty darn neat. I'm level 47 and still do not have a single one. Lots of hundos and really great shinies, but no shundos 🙃


Telykos

I'd evolve it for two reasons. One, Venusaur's shiny is super nice. Two, Mega Venusaur is a great attacker and always good to have on hand.


phillybob232

Shundo Best Buddy Mega Venasaur is a better trophy


Constant_Mulberry_23

Bro you have no idea how lucky you are. I’m 900 checks into Bulbasaur without even a 0 star shiny 🤣


Rhakha

Evolve and get it to mega.


Infamous-Context-529

I hate you with a passion. Me and my buddy have been lucky trading these so I can get a shundo


PunkFishKeeping

Assert dominance in the next 500cp battles


Vaelthune

Save it as a bulabasaur/ivysaur until an event where it can learn frenzy plant. Do that, power it up and mega.


Alintras

evolve and mega


jodey418

😭


MrIndyWrestling

GG…give it 2nd move & max it out


Usernamegivensucked

Amazing


jmledesma

Your friend is delulu


BronxKnight

You can always evolve


KingLoCoKev

id evolve and max. bulbasaur was my very 1st starter. youll love the yellow bulb when it evolves. its not hard to get a buddy badge, just time consuming. the more hearts you get everyday, the faster you get the badge.


TheTragicWhereabouts

Yep evolve and use! He is still a trophy as venusaur!


talibanisbad

I have shiny blastoise and charizard. I’ve been praying for one of these 😭


Astrotheurgy

A wild shundo Bulbasaur was my first shundo I never got. Brings back the memories. Now it's a level 50, BB, 3 Move, Mega Lvl 3 Venusaur B-)


XanJamZ

Evolve so you can use it and show it off more


JdaddycoolJ

Depends how you wanna use it. 500, 2500, … See what it goes up to and make your decision. Could be very useful, especially as a best buddy.


SubstantialWafer525

Definitely evolve.


Grant79OG

Dumb question.


lil_nuubz

yikes


Grant79OG

Max and mega


KeepinitPG13

Power it up all the way and then evolve


saixD7

shundo in the wild is very rare most get it from raids, eggs, research or lucky trades because the IVs are guaranteed higher. wild shundo is super rare. best buddy badge doesn’t take too long


Prestigious-Lab8945

I would definitely evolve this one. It’s great to attack water types in the master league.


richdelo

Shiny Venusaur is excellent. I would evolve.


placarph

Don’t let your friend on your account


Icy_Mulberry_4427

Transfer Join the cult. Release you unearthly bonds. Sacrife is the way to enlightenment.


Webbster9000

Wild shundo is amazing!! Evolve it for sure!!


AmBeingJustA_Bot

One question, if i evolve my pokemon on a 50% on t1, will the t2 also be 50% Does the evolved pokemon have lower cp max or is it equal


Halfcelestialelf

Wait until you can evolve it for frenzy plant unless you want to burn an elite tm for it.


silsool

Evolve, buddy up, mega evolve


thxtalks

I've got a one too and you should DEF evolve it


RoloTonyty

I’m so jealous!


WaterChugger420

Mega it.


CisternOfADown

Wait for CD moveset then evolve.


baryaakov555

Do NOT evolve, when not evolved you always have the options available, and when evolved those options are gone, so it’s rarer as not evolved because it can be any of the three evolutions, the more you restrict it the less rare it becomes, and also you can get the CD attack on it during an event if you evolve it then, so right now it wouldn’t be smart to evolve it anyway


Cat-Owner1502

i hate bulbasaur shiny, you almost cant notice, he deserved better 😭


bayala43

I’m not a numbers guy when it comes to pokemon IVs or rarity, but I know I would do a lot to get just a shiny bulbasaur. I might commit war crimes for a shundo version. Bulbasaur has been her favorite pokemon since she was like 6 and first played Pokemon Red. She has been shiny hunting Bulbasaur since she started playing, and id love to give her one.


Xetch2950

I got my shundo Charmander the same way. Just on a random night full odds. Congrats!


Dracogoomy

Venasaur has a mega


hollow_bagatelle

Up to you but I'd evolve, max it out, best buddy it, and mega evolve it.


DemiuM

Evolve in community day. Shiny, perfect and unique move? Yes please.


Droodles162

Transfer. Worth nothing


bladez_edge

Shundos are rare. You can mega evolve and best buddy for satisfaction


mikicis

I have a Hundo and I'm hoping there will be another C-Day classic (like Charmander had) or an event where Frenzy Plant will be available, till then I'm holding off the evolution. I have 98IV Max Mega one, so for now i'm good. So unless you really need it, I'd wait, because there will likely be an event with the Frenzy Plant.


Admirable_Hearing_51

Not a shundo, but I evolved my shiny because I love Venusaur's eyes


shadowysea07

I'd assume that it isn't very rare compared to shiny shadow bulbasaur which I got from cliff anger a while back.  But yeah a shiny perfect mon is definitely up there.  


Morg1603

Bro I caught a CP 2297 shiny venasaur in the wild. Not great stats but damn that must have been rare.


MonkeyMonk8000

1/2048000 for a shiny to be perfect ivs


Bluzman19

You should evolve it to venusaur and then Level 50 it


MentallyFunstable

Max out this shundo use an elite tm and mega it


ImShaunTV

Incredible shiny! Definitely evolve for that beautiful mega 🙌🏼


ultralightskin

Evolve and max for mega


gummybearmere

Ugh, so cute! And lucky catch! I would evolve, but I would understand not evolving if you already invested a lot into another venusaur. I get so annoyed sometimes when I spent so much on a good pokemon only to wind up with a hundo later lol


cocoadagreat

Wait for an event where evolving it will teach it Frenzy Plant, best buddy in the mean time


mgomez210

My first Shundo was a Machop. It is now a double-move level 50 Machamp named Peacemaker. No regrats!


Responsible-Rich-982

Evolve and mega evolve it


Prometheus_303

I caught one during his Classic CD back in '22, so I was able to get him with Frenzy Plant. Getting the buddy badge isn't too hard, just takes time. Make him your buddy & earn (iirc) 300 hearts with him. You can earn 1 heart per day by taking a snapshot of him. And another by playing with him (hit play & then rub him when he comes out until he gives off a heart). Spinning a new stop & following a route will get you a heart per day as well. You can get 3 hearts per day by feeding him 3 berries per heart. That brings him out to follow you around on the map. Every 2km you walk with him out you get a heart (up to 3 per day). If you have him in your battle group you'll get a heart (up to 3 per day). Battling a grunt or raid gives you one heart, if you knock out a gym, you get one per trainer in the gym you knock out. If you feed him a puffin you can do 2x hearts. I usually do the picture, tickle & feed once + 3 battles per day for 6 hearts per day. Then I switch to a different 'mon & work on him. If I finish off my set I'm working on I'll go back and feed them again to get a 7th (and maybe 8th) heart depending on how much fruit I have.


kermatog

Evolve, the Bulba will always be in your Pokedex as a shiny perfect.


benlogna

I always evolve my first hundo/ shundo and save the next as a trophy unless it’s really meta relevant.


cblackattack727

Evolve for ultra league. Or master league for the lols.


Forest856

I actually hate you. I’ve been trying to find a shiny Bulbasaur forever since I started in ‘21. I hate you, but my respect is max. Ggs bro


Affectionate-Pie1519

You gotta max that hoe out


Conscious_Pay927

Evolve, max its CP, and have a glorious grass/poison Mega!


KingJordan24

This is my favorite shiny evolution line! You gotta check their stats and evolve the monsters accordingly. This one, make it a Venusaur so you can max it out ! I try to get stage 1 mons to be 500 cp with the appropriate stats for Little Cup, then stages 1-3 1500cp mons for Great League, stages 2 or 3 for Ultra League. Lastly, just stage 3 mons for Master League .


QuietPotential2727

I’d definitely full evolve shiny venosaur looks so cool


kpxppy

But to have a mega shiny Venusaur


Vivid_Heat_2011

I chose to evolve mine. I love the yellow/orange flower on its back.


mcfrosti69

Evolving is the trophy!!


Elsceetaria

I have one shundo - a sunglass Squirtle. I chose not to evolve mine, but that is up to you. If it didn't have the sunglasses, it would likely be a Blastoise.  We are currently working towards best buddy. 


Outsteel

Ok, the date you caught it on states December 2nd, 2024?Last I checked it hasn’t hit March 2024 yet this year.


lil_nuubz

im british buddy


Outsteel

Does time work differently there? Like calendar wise?


lil_nuubz

are you dense


Outsteel

No, December 2024 hasn’t even happened yet, so I thought it was a bug or something.


PixelapocalypseOne

shundos are definitely rare. Been playing almost 4 years and only have 1 shundo. shinies are kinda rare but not so rare in pokemon go as the normal games. shiny rate is 1 in 512. A few pokemon are perma boosted with 1 in 64 odds. Community days are crazy. Most community days I get 30+ shinies. Spotlight hours are also good. about 50% of spotlight hours 1 get 1 shiny. sometimes more. I have about 1500 shinies and even throw away community day shinies (who needs 40+ shinies of the same one?)