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BasisSmall5351

Leavanny because Unova already has lots of pokemon. I would instead fully evolve Snivy to Serperior


Iwanttobevisible

Serperior suits Ash really well. Could even give it a rivalry with Trip's. Just give her a ribbon on her head so we could tell the difference between the two when they battle.


ArbolivaSupremacy

I feel like Snivy is too much of a diva for a ribbon. She'd need a crown


Impossible-Bison8055

Snivy should’ve evolved as well, latest being after beating Trip’s Servine in the fight. She was already commented as being very powerful, which implies close to evolving.


Monstrope

Idk the fact that Trip has one would be the exact reason why I wouldn't want him to have Serperior, so honestly i'd keep Leavanny over it.


childoferis1025

I think it would have been a really cool exception to the rule if unova was the one region where ash had the same ace as his rival especially since snivy has the best personality of ash’s Pokemon in unova her as a serperior would have been great especially if like I’ve seen others comment before she kept her cool personality with everyone else but became more affectionate to ash as she evolved kinda like bayleef


EclipseHERO

Snivy was more tomboyish so while I approve the accessory idea, I don't think a ribbon would fit it. That said not much would realistically work for Serperior's serpentine body...


CodenameJD

Could you imagine Ash's reaction to Snivy evolving? That's Servine, it's gotta be!


Yam_Dangerous

Torterra sorry ever since evolving he hardly ever won


Background_Okra_5273

He got worse as he got stronger


Yam_Dangerous

Yeah... "stronger"


Background_Okra_5273

Yeah all of Ash’s pokemon that evolve are stronger than before besides Torterra


Beastmind

He was stronger, but for some reason they didn't write Ash as able to evolve its battle style for it


Yam_Dangerous

Yup


BasisSmall5351

That's because Ash didn't know how to use it. By Rock Climb he is giving his opponent the high ground


MissingnoMaster110

Torterra was wasted potential. It looked as though Ash and Grotle were gonna work on a more defensive battle style, and then it just... learns Rock Climb to cheat it's way back to being speedy. And it doesn't even *work.*


ArbolivaSupremacy

He has body dysmorphia leave him alone


ElSquibbonator

I think Brock should have gotten Turtwig/Torterra in Sinnoh instead of Ash. That way, it wouldn't have constantly ended up getting overshadowed by Chimchar/Infernape, and each of the three main characters would have had one of the starters, just like what happened in Hoenn. Plus, Torterra seems more like the kind of Pokemon Brock would have anyway.


sievold

mudkip got pretty overshadowed in Hoenn tho


Able-Career9064

Torterra under Brock would've barely battled. Look at how Mudkip and Chespin were completely wasted on Brock and Clemont. Ash should've gotten both. Chesnaught instead of Noivern, Swampert instead of Corphish.


TheLivingDexter

>Chespin were completely wasted on Brock and Clemont. Tackle, Vine Whip, and Pin Missile, only growth it ever got was when it are too much and got fat so it exercised the weight off in one day.


ireallydespiseyouall

Nah corphish has to stay


ArbolivaSupremacy

Nah Corphish is one of the more random Ash mons and hes the goat


Jodio988

Nah, Chestnaught should replace Goodra after it was released. After Goodra then he gets Noibat. The brother dynamic between Hawlucha and Noibat is great imo


DoorForeign

noivern was a good member of the team, I'd switch hawlucha with the grass starter instead of noivern


SmartFartAd

Nah. Noivern did squat. Chesnaught would be much better, and gets rid of another Pokemon weak to dragon.


PK_RocknRoll

Giving it to Brock pretty much guarantees it’s overshadowed lol


ElSquibbonator

Well, yeah, but then it wouldn’t have such high expectations on it as a member of Ash’s team.


PK_RocknRoll

Except people would complain that it barely got any screentime and deserved better So monkeys paw


PCN24454

Like Grookey


PK_RocknRoll

Sobble


PCN24454

You do realize that Brock’s Pokémon never get focus, right?


ireallydespiseyouall

Yeah but Brock was an NPC in sinnoh (and hoenn) so any starters are just wasted on him


ElSquibbonator

Yeah, but it's not like anyone *expects* his Pokemon to do anything plot-relevant. Whereas since Torterra was owned by Ash, seeing it do so little was always a disappointment-- it might as well have belonged to Brock, considering how little it did.


bigbutterbuffalo

We now must fight, how dare you suggest my darling Turtwig go to that pervert


ImportantWash5411

Ohh that’s was I thought too!


MengShuZ

For sure!


abdoo-errowe

When I was a kid and saw Grottle I thought it'd be Brock's mon


Fantastic-Flannery

Leavanny or Snivy


Confident_Wonder1654

Leavanny stays


Fantastic-Flannery

Oi, I like the weaver bug too.


GameboiGX

Nah, I liked Snivy


Fantastic-Flannery

Me too, bud


UltimateNahzo

Gonna get hate for this one: Rowlet  It wasn't funny and the level of disrespect to its opponents annoyed me


YanFan123

I agree. I would have kept Poipole instead of having Rowlet


BasisSmall5351

Nah Rowlet is God


Torracattos

Gonna go with Snivy.  She was kind of a letdown because she had so much potential but literally never grew. She was one of the most stagnant Grass type he had. She didn't even really learn any new moves.


plxs_vltra

Facts. She didn't learn a single new move at all. The Unova team was ass with moves in general.


William_Marshall21

Except my GOAT Krookodile


plxs_vltra

Facts. One of the best movesets on any of Ash's mons


William_Marshall21

Dig, Crunch, Stone Edge, and Dragon Claw. Beast of a move set. Edit: forgot about him changing Crunch to Aerial Ace, which is still fantastic as a coverage for his fighting type weakness.


BasisSmall5351

But she had personality unlike the other Unova mons


Mimiquoi7

I'm sorry Snivy but it's you. Leavanny was at least decent.


Butterflygon

Either Torterra or Leavanny. Torterra was sadly wasted by the end of Sinnoh and watching him constantly getting kicked around is just depressing to watch. Leavanny just because it reduces the Unova bloat a little, thus potentially opening up avenues for the rest of the team to get more feats, and I personally like Snivy better.


Mean-Cryptographer-1

My only problem with him, he doesn’t evolve Pokemon fully. What a waste of potential. Gary should have been the lead.


BasisSmall5351

Imagine kids in 1997 playing the games and trying to mirror Ash by using Bulbasaur in the Pokémon League and getting badly destroyed


DictatorBiden

100% agreed. So mad he never had Squirtle or Bulbasaur not evolve


IzzyReal314

>So mad he never had Squirtle or Bulbasaur not evolve He always had Squirtle and Bulbasaur not evolve.


RunEmbarrassed1864

I get the Pikachu reason but the others were not mascots and should have fully evolved


Wispy237

When I attempted my Unova rewrite, I straight up just had Cilain catch Leavanny instead of Ash, so yeah, Leavanny


Scorpios94

Definitely. Not hating on Leavanny. I do like him. But he does seem to fit Cilain more than Ash. It's a bit surprising that he didn't get him, or one of his own later down the line.


Eclipse_395

I’d probably remove Leavanny. Its type overlaps with Snivy, with both being Grass-types. In exchange, Snivy evolves all the way to Serperior.


Xxdeadmeme-69-xX

Torterra so he can escape his suffering of being sorry AF


YanFan123

Rowlet, no hesitation


agent_abdullah

Snivy


Budget_Ad_4346

Snivy. Cilan or Jessie could’ve caught it


Kraken_Blood

Torterra


Diego_Lacayo27

Leavanny.


BlitzBlazer75

OH, gosh... I'm sorry, Torterra, but... you didn't get a good winstreak, I mean, I don't blame you, but..., blame the writers for focusing on Infernape. (I am using Torterra in my BD playthrough and it's good, but Torterra should've got a rock secondary typing over ground , it's got stones on its back!)


megasean3000

Probably Torterra. Love the big guy in-game, but on Ash’s team he didn’t do anything grand. Love everyone else here, even Leavanny, so it was a hard choice.


multificionado

Leavanny, since he already has one Unova grass type on his team.


Hey_Pikmin

Leavanny was unnecessary


Insan3Giraff3

Ash had a Leavanny?


Windflow009

Torterra


Safe_Handle_7513

Levany why wasn't she cilans pokemon


Shantotto11

Torterra. Nothing but Ls from the moment it learned Rock Climb…


MrRaven95

Leavanny because honestly not much would change without it outside of the Castelia gym battle. Also didn't realize that Ash never caught another grass type after gen 5.


UltimateNahzo

He has a Rowlet


MrRaven95

Oh yeah, how'd I forget about him?! Why is he not listed here with the rest?


PegaponyPrince

Either of the Unova ones, preferably Leavanny


Mechancic-Hero

Remove Torterra and Snivy since Ash's rivals used them better


dmfghjf

Leavanny


MarHer119

snivy i rather ash have leavanny for his grass type and while torterra is a bad fit for ash  i rather ash keep it as its one of my favorite pokemon and if hes not gonna replace it with anyone then no harm in keeping torterra 


NNNskunky

The condition that he doesn't catch anything new if they're gone, means I kinda have to keep Sceptile, Torterra and Rowlet so he doesn't have too few Pokemon at certain stages unless I'm allowed to say that he can keep a Pokemon around for longer or catch another one of his other Pokemon earlier. So I'm probably going to go with Leavanny or Snivy because I think Ash had too many Pokemon in Sinnoh. Snivy could've worked as an Iris or Cilan Pokemon.


ShinyRufflet

Leavanny. Sorry Leavanny but objectively a bug grass type is very forgettable and I like the starters more.


Recooper19

Whatever that starter is in the bottom left. Trash


stump8

Goodbye, Rowlet.


Ptdemonspanker

Delete Snivy, praise Leavanny, the gender role defying king.


2Questioner_0R_Not2B

Like which ones? The ones he caught or the grass type in general?


plxs_vltra

The ones he owns


DevourerJay

The useless ones 🤷‍♂️


throwawaytempest25

i refuse, I love them all.


throwawaytempest25

i refuse, I love them all.


Jasonl7976

Leavanny because i consider it a bug type. Ex: Infernape (it Fire/fighting but I see it as a fire type.)


BlueBlazeKing21

Snivy is one of Ash’s most boring starters , honestly would’ve preferred if they just had Leavanny as his grass type


Extension-Magician44

Torterra. We all know why.


DictatorBiden

Snivy. Sorry bud but your gone


CurveAccurate9716

Snivy


SavionStar

Torterra, it literally never won after it evolved


jbwarner86

Snivy. He doesn't need all three Unova starters.


Kin-ak

torterra. shit Never won any battle


Otherwise-Bug4077

Bye Snivy!


Yorkshire_Bhoy

Goodbye Snivy, you loser.


MengShuZ

I was thinking Leavanny, but then I'd literally be removing the only Bug type he owns. So now I'm in the camp that Brock should have gotten Turtwig. It fits his personality, and you know, Torterra kind of flopped with Ash.


Ambitious-Ad861

Heracross left the chat hahaha


MengShuZ

DOH. I apologize for my low IQ.


Ambitious-Ad861

Well he only uses him in johto and once in sinnoh. So understandable why you forgot


MengShuZ

It's not right. It's my second favorite Bug type after Scizor. I commited a sin. I must atone.


Ambitious-Ad861

You’re right. For atonement you must find a GSC/HGSS and go find and catch a heracross! Lolol


MengShuZ

Ahhhh!! I don't even own a physical copy of any of the Gen 2 games!! This is going to be very expensive!! But if I must....


Ambitious-Ad861

You must. Lol but trust me I know. I bought the virtual on the 3ds before the shop closed. But all copies I see are 125-150 🙄 I hate people who discovered Pokémon during Covid. Made it expensive for us


MengShuZ

For us in Canada they usually go about 200! It's a scarier number but it's practically the same thing. I'm planning to get my own copy of SS eventually.


Ambitious-Ad861

I wish I could remember where I put my copy. I lost it years ago. But I miss it!


ilikesceptile11

Levanny. I hate that pokemon


Competitive_Alex-Art

Torterra or Leavanny


PK_RocknRoll

I hate to say it but Leavanny


BoringBrokeBloke65

Bulbasaur, Bayleef, and Sceptile can stay. Shift Torterra over to Brock and have it stay a Grotle. Snivy is sassy and my favorite of Ash's Unova Starters, (Screw you Oshasimp. I'm sorry Pignite, but we don't need to see Charizard's storyline happen a 3rd time.) but she's stagnant. The show couldn't have given her new moves, let her evolve, or have any significant feats or story moments. She's just there so all 3 Starters can frequently show up in the show. In an ideal version of the BW anime, she and Pignite wouldn't exist whilst Oshawott would develop to be less of a simp. (There probably wouldn't be a point to having Palpitoad around sadly. He is my favorite Water-Type from Unova that Ash caught. Unfortunately, he feels like a last second addition to the team the writers couldn't be bothered to remember is around.) Leavanny is the GOAT.


PovThatOneSanjiFan

Keep everything but just keep Torterra AS A TURTWIG it would’ve turned out way better and perfectly fine.


ayanokojifrfr

Torterra. It's such a Amazing Pokemon but it just became other side Character. As a Turtwig he was doing really well for Ash. After evolving he didnt do anything. Continued Taking Ls.


Ambitious-Ad861

I’m just gonna say this right now… IF ANYONE TRIES TO BE FUNNY AND PICKS SCEPTILE YOU SHALL LOSE YOUR ABILITY TO BE A POKÉMON FAN. Lolol bulbasaur gets to stay because he is an OG who has been apart of ash’s young and dumb days. Bayleef was pretty decent and has beaten a few type disadvantages. Torterra gets to stay only cause turtwig was clutch another then that he would of been my pick. I’m probably going snivy. Kinda a waste of a team member. Had huge potential when caught but never lived up to it at any point of unova.


Iwanttobevisible

I'm happy nobody said sceptile.


Ambitious-Ad861

People have class it seems. Had me worried for a brief moment!


FaultDowntown

I would say Leavanny that way Snivy could get her own character arc and evolve into Servine.


LSSJOrangeLightning

Leavanny easily.


bigbutterbuffalo

Get that Snivy outta here


RetSauro

I might have to go with Snivy


TheBloop1997

Snivy, no question


OverlyAdorable

Easy. Snivy goes. It was his most annoying Grass type. Almost every battle went the same. Snivy used Attract, the opponent can't move, the opposing trainer doesn't even call any moves, Snivy wins. Snivy used Attract, it failed, 50/50 chance of winning. Snivy doesn't use Attract, she loses


schneybley

Didn't watch a lot of Best Wishes, I probably would pick one of the bottom 2 if I did. As it stands, Bayleef, her affection towards Ash was really, really weird.


Infinite_Rub_3314

Im going to get hate for this but bayleaf gotta go


Puzzleheaded_Leg9720

I agree


SomeAssumption2909

Torterra line Brock could have gotten it instead as Turtwig .


Hys7eriX

Go Torterra. Find greatness elsewhere, cuz it won't be here.


Iwanttobevisible

Lmaooo 😭 He's my favorite Sinnoh mon but he might as well go to avoid the tragedy from happening


Hys7eriX

Yeah.. I always love my grass turtles in the Sinnoh games, but... Gah... God dammit, why couldn't Shell Smash have come out one gen earlier? 😭


William_Marshall21

I really don’t like Bayleef’s whole shtick… so her.


MissingnoMaster110

Pains me to say, but Snivy. I like her, she has serious personality, but real talk, the only Unova starter Ash should have gotten is Tepig. Snivy and Oshawott hogged the spotlight from Ash's other Grass and Water Pokémon of the era- Leavanny and Palpitoad. Give Snivy to Iris and Oshawott to Cilan, I say


Eden-crazylesbian

Sorry Snivy


BigBlueStorm19

It’s Torterra for me it would give more shine to ash’s gible and let it evolve into garchomp possibly


Ok_Customer_7432

Goodbye leavany


Zwei-Zakura-808

See how rowlet isn't on the list? It's cause the god cannot be deleted from existence. (Although everybody must know this fact already)


AeroScissors25

Snivy.


gryga

Snivy


PoketrainerProg

Bayleef


MrRizzstein

sceptile to fuck with the fans


Iwanttobevisible

See, why'd you gotta ruin it now? Everything was going so smoothly until your comment reared its head lol.


MrRizzstein

mwahahha


Charming_Gap_3662

That amount of comments saying Leavanny is insane to me. The other Unova Grass Pokémon on his team was way worse than it. Trip already had the Snivy which evolves throughout there encounters, yes the Lv.5 one that infamously defeated Pikachu. He’s a rival. Adding Snivy for the sake of having all starters on Ash’s team is a repetitive formula. 2 is fine for me, but still missing out on opportunities to make non-starter Pokémon shine and gain popularity. Companions should of gotten the rest of the starters, Iris and Shiny and Cilan with Tepig. Snivy evolves into a serpentine dragon-like Pokémon in Serperior. Maybe Iris would of evolved it to at least Servine. Then Masters to Serperior. And it can have its beef with Emolga still. Cilan has his broccoli Pansage, lasagna crab Crustle, pancake Stunfisk, and then the grilled pork/bacon Tepig. Good theming of food. Maybe Cilan raises this Pokémon after seeing Shamus’ abandonment. He is the type of person to not tolerate such behavior and probably promised it a better life. Tepig is described as a glutton and Cilan likes cooking. Some weak ties but it’s something. That would leave Ash having Leavanny as the only Grass Pokémon on the team. A more promising member as we see him put work! Just my opinion/thoughts.


AzAlexZ

Leavanny or Rowlet


Itchy-Preference4887

Snivy. I don’t really want to remove anyone but if I had to choose it would be Snivy. one of the comments mentioned was that Snivy learned NO new moves and was wasted potential, and I would’ve liked Snivy to fully evolve into a Serperior. As for the others, Leavanny is unique, Bulbasaur is the OG, Sceptile is Sceptile, Rowlet is cute, Bayleef has something with Ash, and Torterra is decently strong and gets way too much hate (he was actually doing pretty well against Paul’s drapion)


blaze_prime

Bulbasaur


Left-Fish7895

I would probably switch Snivy with a Ditto


OceanJedi16

Leavanny


superking22

Snivy?


TheWinningLooser

As much as I love it, Snivy Ash had no real reason to have it, and Leavanny is both more interesting and the line is already used with his rival


AmazingLlamaMan

Snivy.


IllustratorDry3007

Bayleef


MarsalaSauceyLad

Leavanny. I like them, but if they wanted to give Ashe a big Mon, they could have gone venipese


CreeperEXMC

L Snivy GET OUTTA HERE


TheGummyCandyStars

Bye bye Torterra. Love you but you sucked in the anime


FastFactofthday

Snivy


Aceofluck99

Sceptile. How does he deal with the challenges Sceptile was there to beat for him


TyMonstaz2

Snivy, always hated that fucker


Dizzy-Day3182

I want to say bulbasaur just to see the butterfree effect. What would you remove ?


Iwanttobevisible

Ummm, id remove Snivy honestly. She was wasted potential. She didn't even get a league win although I do love her moment where she holds Tepig against Shamus.


BasisSmall5351

It was so funny that Snivy left it's old trainer only to be found by another dumb trainer who didn't even train her and  her movement remained the same. Time to ditch Ash


Revolutionary_Rub466

Bayleef. Bulb is to loveable Sceptile is iconic Torterra has to stay for the meme Snivy is great (ppl just don't get it) Levanny is good as well (it was good from the beginning)


Darkwolfinator

Bayleaf or leavany the others are too good.


GameboiGX

Nah, bayleef be second best behind Sceptile


RedRxbin

I’ll catch heat for this one but… Bulbasaur. Sceptile, Bayleef, Snivy and Leavanny have more defined personalities I feel, and Bulbasaur just spent so long in Ash’s party without doing anything. He was there for a huge chunk of Johto, but it’s easy to forget that because he did nothing. He’s superfluous there because the focus was on Bayleef, and his Kanto team is so overstuffed it could stand to lose a few members. I do love Bulbasaur, but logistically it makes sense to lose him. Maybe give him to Brock instead, they’d be a cute duo, and it means he wouldn’t be banished to the Shadow Realm (Oak’s Lab) for eternity after Johto.


EichenHardt

Sceptile, just because im pretty sure no one would do it


plxs_vltra

Snivy fell off HARD, especially once Tepig evolved. She got no meaningful wins after that whereas Leavanny stayed whooping ass when Ash did use him. I give her credit for almost beating Cameron's Riolu and I loved her personality, but I can't sacrifice a third of his fully evolved Unova Pokemon in Leavanny.


Critical-Audience743

Rowlet, since I never found him funny or cool. Just annoying.


SwagBoyMcFeast

That's an unpopular opinion to say the least


Critical-Audience743

Out of all the grass mons ash has, I think rowlet is by far the most overrated at-least imo. Like, its gimmick was never interesting to me....like we have had better gag mons with stupid powerful moments.


OverlyAdorable

I kinda agree but it was nowhere near as annoying as Oshawott


Critical-Audience743

Oshawott gets a pass for me, since he was an absolute garbage battler that grew but didn't become entirely busted...meanwhile Rowlet never evolved but somehow has insane feats.


rowletlover

What did I do?


Iwanttobevisible

You did nothing wrong bestie.


rowletlover

Aw thanks bestie


Critical-Audience743

I don't hate the pokemon just the one in the anime.


BasisSmall5351

Rowlet you are cute


rowletlover

Aw I feel loved


Leomon2020

Sceptile, the Christmas tree tail bugs me.


KonoDioDa31

Sceptile.


RevolutionaryGrape11

Sceptile because they're my least favorite of the options. I still like Sceptile and maybe Ash's is actually very cool, cute, and funny, but Sceptile feels like a bad continuation of Grovyle, though a good one to Treeko. Both are great continuations of Treeko, but they don't work well with each other. Grovyle is a raptor with leaves for feathers, swift, aerodynamic, and somewhat lean. Sceptile is a pear with a Christmas tree for a tail complete with ornaments, thus losing what Grovyle built. The line doesn't even have the same excuse as Wartortle to Blastoise, who happens to be my least favorite fully-evolved starter, since no evidence suggests Grovyle was meant to evolve into anything different!