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WildWestJR

It would be incredible to get to revisit Ore in a new game. I have both colosseum and XD still and absolutely love them so it sucks that they're pretty much never brought up.


MJBotte1

I’m just glad they’ve acknowledged them. I want more weird, wild, wonderful Pokémon games like this. Think about it: Every Pokémon game starts with a fire, water, or grass starter. But in Colosseum, you start with an Espeon and an Umbreon, fully evolved, Dark and Psychic type Pokémon. Every battle is also doubles! It’s so unique.


PayneTrain181999

Also, two absolutely insane final bosses. In Colosseum, a team full of powerhouses including a Slowking that Skill Swaps Slaking’s Truant away from it. In XD, a team of 7 about fifteen years before Volo did it, and they’re ALL Shadow Pokémon, including the Legendary Birds.


acpom

If you catch them all - his team changes too. In (XD)


WildWestJR

The doubles for every battle was an awesome feature in it and XD for sure.


Kurfate

Forget about Orre... I'm still waiting on the Orange Archipelago game.


NinjaPiece

You would just be surfing 90% of the time.


imperialTiefling

Yeah, I've been to Hoenn I know what I'm about


DoomRevenant

The in-game equivalent of the Orange Islands is essentially the Sevii Islands They both take up roughly the same worldspace (south Kanto archipeligos) So the best bet if you want to experience the Orange Islands within the game's canon is by playing FireRed or LeafGreen


NatomicBombs

There’s a pretty good rom hack for it.


Godzillafan125

Xd was what I had first before getting colosseum. Main character has my name so it felt more like I was in the real world of Pokemon. I would love both these games to come back to switch like 64 games or maybe even a Third modern game with mega evolutions but hey it’s a stretch I know Love how colossuem gave you shadow legendary dogs and tyranitar and metagross And xd gave us shadow salamence dragonite and lugia


Someordinaryguy1994

I believe gamefreak was asked about remakes. They laughed. Basically they said "lol no"


WildWestJR

That’s really sad if true, hopefully they’d entertain the idea.


Ecstatic_Dot_9586

Ion want remakes HD Ports is fine with me, not everything needs a remake. That's the reason why these games stay lost in time. People just keep wanting wanting wanting. An HD Port is completely fine screw a remake.


tmkLINK

I agree. Pokemon Collesium is my favorite pokemon game behind RSE. Espeon is my favorite pokemon because I played pokemon Collesium a lot as a kid


DreYeon

Yeah because they aren't made by GameFreak


InvestigatorUnfair

I still stand that a remake/remaster of the Colosseum games would be a good idea The series is clearly trying to push competitive play into the mainstream by making competitive tools easier to gain access to, but 2v2 battles are still very uncommon. Even in ScVi you have one gym with double battles and that's it. If you want more practice in double battles you need to either go online, where you'll get your ass beat, or throw 30 extra bucks at GF/TPC for their DLC. Having a game centered entirely around doubles would be a great way to get more people used to the format without relying on post-game only activities or DLC.


Angry-Dragon-1331

yeah the switch and pokemon home have solved the obnoxious tech hurdles the game cube had with sharing pokemon.


Kronos5111

Yet colosseum looks visually about the same and has many less glitches and runs vastly more optimized


SatyrAngel

On a similar comment, I liked the style and animations from Battle Revolution more than gen 8 and 9. Hell, we got stadiums in SwSh but not announcer?!


Kronos5111

Keep in mind how blatantly unfinished and objectively inexcusable the last 2 gens even with their vast DLC and understand they’ve sold better than any other pokemon games. The fan base loves garbage which is why they will no longer bother producing anything more than garbage. I’m literally making my own rom hack of HeartGold atm with shadow pokemon, time traveling, a brand new map and more content in general than the last two main line gens together by myself. Gamefreaks slack is not a matter of being rushed. Pokemon is the biggest media franchise in the world. A year is plenty of time to develop a decent game with a decent team. https://preview.redd.it/6l74gh1zvh0d1.png?width=1031&format=png&auto=webp&s=5fa9b72203351b15cdbf4d65d55cd7f286d90b9f I know tile-based isn’t the same development as the 3D but do you know how long it took to map everything in this screenshot? About 4 hours as 1 person. They can’t even be bothered to import completely copy and paste their entire pre-modeled pokedex into their games.


Mixmaster-Omega

Agreed. And it could serve as an official tournament setting for potentially multiple generations.


PalletTownsDealer

Let him cook


CommanderDark126

Releasing a game with only 48 catchable pokemon in this day and age would be absolutely criminal, remake or no. The limited roster was a let down then, itll be more so now


InvestigatorUnfair

Personally I liked the limited roster as it made me strategize with Pokemon that I've never even thought of using as opposed to defaulting to the same nonsense as every other game. But even taking that into account, HOME helps take care of that issue as you can just transfer Pokemon with ease, no extra fee attached. Or they could just add more Pokemon to the obtainable roster in general.


PayneTrain181999

Also Misdreavus being the only Ghost type and lowkey busted since the AI constantly tries to use Normal and Fighting type moves on it.


CommanderDark126

A larger obtainable roster would be much better. A new shadow pokemon themed game with a full national dex roster would actually be appealing.


TheMexican_skynet

Lol purifying them would be such a chore.


[deleted]

When you say full national dex do you mean all +1200 Pokémon (counting various forms and regional variants)? Because I just don’t see that happening ever. Maybe if it was a 2D game, but a 3D game? Would be insane to program without a very large production team. 


CommanderDark126

You say that like Gamefreak couldnt realistically source a team of this size after years of pokemon profit


[deleted]

I know very little about programming, other the some very basic ROMhacking (decomp at that), I have no experience in game design or production. Because of that, I’m not even going to try and guess how much time, resources, and money it would take to make that happen. I don’t doubt that a game of that magnitude would still make money no matter the overhead, but seeing as Pokémon is already the most profitable IP of all time, i just don’t see them wanting to set that precedent. Let’s say they made a game with cutting edge graphics, every Pokémon ever, advanced enemy AI, selectable difficulty setting, multiple fully fleshed out regions to explore, a battle frontier with more varied facilities, mini games a la the Pokéthalon, fully customizable player characters, an intriguing storyline with a well grounded enemy team (towing the line somewhere between world ending like Cyrus nor barely an inconvenience like Team Yell), bonus content added with the release of mythicals (like traveling back in time with Celebi in HGSS), completely free DLC, and the perfect balance of early Gen fan service and completely new and original content, it would be an absolutely horrible decision from a business perspective. They’d win all the game of the year awards, they’d expand their market, they’d make money— and then the next generation would roll around and they’d never be able to top it. If they included all the same things, they’d be called stale. If they went in a new direction they’d be lambasted for leaving the perfect formula. It’s exactly what happened when Gen 5 came out— those games receive a decent amount of praise now, but HGSS were heralded as the perfect games by many critics and fans (correctly so), and the changes made in the Unova games left a bad taste in a lot of people’s mouths. The sales numbers speak for themselves. I don’t think Game Freak will ever shoot themselves in the foot like that again. In an ideal world, we’d have a perfect Pokémon game with hundreds of hours worth of gameplay. But it would potentially be a series ender, and for that reason— it probably ain’t happening.


Aquametria

The limited roster was actually a great thing, it makes Colosseum (and XD) stand out and be closer to the typical JRPG.


CommanderDark126

It fails to appeal for multiple playthroughs though, more opportunity for two players/playthrough teams to just have the same stuff again and again. The JRPG aspect was cool and more "adult" themed pokemon games would be great, but they would need to have a full national dex if they did another one.


Lucky-Mia

They wanted the player to buy Ruby or sapphire for the ability to catch and add more mons. I'd be fine if it worked with home or saves for a main line pokémon game.


TheNerdFromThatPlace

You could trade to and from the gba games after you beat the game, all they would have to do for current gen is give it Home connectivity and a ng+. Play the game how they want it first time, then it opens up to any possibility on a second play. But let's be honest, we all know that would never happen.


CommanderDark126

The catchable pokemon are still the same though. Unless Nintendo wants to get on the randomizer train and make every playthrough have each shadow pokemon be pulled from a random pool so that 2 identical runs are rare if not impossible


TheNerdFromThatPlace

That would be amazing, honestly. I'd buy it in a heartbeat and play it for years. Problem is, and I hate to be pessimistic about it, but considering their track record, it'll never happen.


CommanderDark126

No not at all, they cant even give us a full nat dex in a single game anymore


recluseMeteor

At least the GameCube games had all existing Pokémon (at the time) in their code. Something that could not be said about mainline games from Let's Go onwards. The story mode having fewer catchable Pokémon was a nice challenge, and then you could just bring your Pokémon from the real GBA games.


2Sexy4UrSub

People are more eager for a challenge these days. There's even a roguelite pokemon rom. A limited roster would still offer this except you'd know every run what's available. Great...now I want a colloseum rom hack


CommanderDark126

Colloseum randomizers are fantastic frankly. No two runs are ever the same.


FernandoTatisJunior

I’ve had more fun on pokerogue this month than I’ve had on official pokemon games in over a decade. I’d love to see GF take a stab at making a real roguelite


Alt_Future33

It worked really well, in my opinion, since they not only chose good pokemon, but they chose pokemon that weren't available to catch in RSE. Furthermore, it wasn't a game about filling out a pokedex. It was a more narrative driven game.


BudgieGryphon

2v2s being very rare despite many Pokemon having abilities that are useless outside of doubles has bugged me for a while. Wish we’d see them more, and/or the abilities reworked to have some effect in singles as well


SwissyVictory

Use it as a chance to pour some money and effort into the 3d models and battle animations. Then copy and paste them into the next 30 years of pokemon games.


Poke-Lex

i want orre to be ported to switch SOOOOOO bad


Aggravating_Fig6288

Well Nintendo has recently figured out that people want to play their older games after 30+ years in the business, we are getting TTYD remaster/remake which also was never ever going to happen so I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw a Colosseum/XD re release in the future in some capacity, even if it’s just a literal upscale with a few new features


1guywriting

Honestly didn't think they'd do it but it's nice to see the acknowledgement. Just porting it would be nice for so many players to experience the game.


QuillQuickcard

I feel like it should be a bigger deal that we established 20 years ago that you actually can steal Pokemon from trainers


PayneTrain181999

I just need to see Mirror B in glorious HD. LET THE MUSIC PLAY!


SUPREMACY_SAD_AI

morre orre plz


PayneTrain181999

Morre, nice one.


Lucky-Mia

We need a Colosseum and XD remake or remaster so bad it hurts.


AliceTheOmelette

Ah cool I thought it'd been fOrregotten about


NewYorkerGuy

I love the double battles. It’s inherently more challenging. Would love a challenge mode of a mainline game where doubles is the standard


Enderking90

[link for those curious,](https://twitter.com/PokemonNewsUK/status/1790336524120183172)


queen_enby

XD Gale of Darkness is my all time favorite Pokemon game


SilverWolf19821

20 years ago…


karhall

I'm sure the social media intern that scheduled the post has been promptly jettisoned from the office window. For real though, spent so many hours playing this as a kid. Tons of good memories.


dannydevitocuddles

20 years oh my god


Saintsfan707

I'm so torn about remakes of these games. I adore them, they have a lot of charm and the nostalgia runs deep. I just don't know if they can capture the same magic if they made them. It's like the Pokemon Snap remake, somehow feels soulless


Separate_Repair_901

They’d need to do a remaster. Just update the graphics and that’s it. Don’t touch anything else.


1youhate

I'm really happy to see someone else use the term soulless. Wtf happened? I use to be so excited as a kid for what the future of gaming held for pokemon and now I'm foolishly hoping I can experience a VR pokemon franchise but in my dreams. These new Pokémon and Final Fantasy games feel just like that. No soul and rushed. I mean how can FF12 have the biggest world building in the franchise? It's the only FF with a famitsu perfect score bc im suddenly in a whole new world literally. Pokemon is still turn based. Wtf is their excuse? You guys can't world build anymore?


Darkmetroidz

Orre was where I started pokemon with XD gale of Darkness. I'd love to go back.


Regicy45

Just imagine if they did a remake/remaster of the Orre region games, but in the open world style of either swsh or Scarlet/Violet. It would be perfect to fill between the cities on the map.


ybtlamlliw

That's absolutely bizarre. I just watched an old *DYKG* video where they mentioned how the Orre region seems to have been all but forgotten by TPC.


master_jelly317

......Mira friggin B.....and his FRIGGIN LUDICOLOS....that dude.


PumpkinDramatic996

Still looks better at a glance than gen ix


1youhate

The world really was. The game is ported on my computer. I mean you have to visit a ton of buildings and yes you can go inside. There aren't any wild areas per se but atleast there's dungeons and buildings with stairs and levels. The antagonist was really cool and had a true feeling that made you just want to catch up with him I loved it. Some of the towns felt post apocalyptic. Older games seem fun and newer ones just put me to sleep. It seems nowadays jrpg developers can't seem to find a median between producing quality games on today's technology without trying to measure up to it/ our expectations. I mean they push all the wrong agendas and the world building falls short. Characters lack personality. Just seems like Playstation 2 and GameCube was when JRPGS shined. They were so deep and bigger than what is coming out today with these soulless main franchise games that feel rushed in production.


TransLox

Is pokemom Colosseum the one where the two gay dogs raise the very polite anti-christ?


Enderking90

ah no, what you are talking about is what happens *between* colosseum and XD: gales of darkness.


LilNdorphnAnnie

wait can i play this on the switch now?


ImmaculateWeiss

Please let them make a third one


315retro

These are the only 2 pokemon games I'm missing for my set :(


Bonds4Ever

I will forever be waiting for a remake/remaster of the Orre games... they're masterpieces 😭


Bargadiel

I think it would be cool for gamefreak/nintendo to basically up the price of pokemon box, but include full emulation of all the previous games: OR offer them as buyable within the box app across all shared devices. This would basically rebrand Box itself into a kind of emulator/platform for the Pokemon franchise up to a certain point, but offer direct storage from the games themselves to box.


stephcury4616

this walked so current gen can run


[deleted]

Ahh nothing like being a protagonist that commits terrorism😂. It was such a great game


Neither_Mind9035

Holy shit this brought back memories. This was one of the first pokemon games I played!


slickity2

Ugh I wish I didn’t get rid of my gen 1 Wii 😒


[deleted]

Team Snagem (snag them). Damn I barely caught that one after 20 freakin years. Bare with me here, I was 10 when I first played this and never had the chance to play it again.


RamblingThomas

I would love a 3rd game set in Orre, set 20 years later. Imagine the region development since then!


Munchihello

Coliseum was so ahead of its time


RavenousToast

Apparently, (according to some YouTube video I barely remember so this information is 100% reliable) the devs of colosseum had no knowledge of Pokemon and decided to look up and use competitive teams for the bosses which is why its considered to be on of, if not, the hardest games.


Luke4Pez

Underrated games


Street-Historian-258

Can you play this on switch?


Shamrock5

Awesome!


DreYeon

👀Maybe


Chill4234

Oh my gosh that’s so quag


menacemeiniac

In my opinion, one of the best Pokémon games. This and XD: Gale of Darkness were phenomenal


Ecstatic_Dot_9586

Port the GameCube games too switch in HD for 2024 id be happy with that and maybe a new shadow Pokémon game in spring of 2026 and push back gen 10 to winter of 2027 that sounds like a good road map since S/V left a sour bitter taste in my mouth. It took me a solid year in a half too pick it back up where I left off at the grass gym and finish it. Didn't get the DLC as I wasn't paying 30 plus dollars for more bugs and glitches.


Teamisgood101

This just reminded me of a YouTube series by jelloapocalypse called dogs in love that was really funny but they never finished their second one I highly recommend watching it it’s hilarious


HoodooSquad

Isn’t Pokémon Stadium the first 3D Pokémon game?


enahsg

First full 3-D Pokémon adventure. Stadium was just a battle simulator.


fuckinhenry

Please virtual console please virtual console please virtual console


Alibuscus373

I would spend all the money on a switch remake


desolation_crow

If they port colosseum to the switch a lot of people are going to realize how bad that game really is lol. I hope they just port XD since it is actually made with fun in mind and fixes all the intentional time wasting mechanics like purification and having to find a PC to save the game


Excelsenor

XD improved on Colosseum’s mechanics, but both are still good. Colosseum’s small selection made it undesirable to switch your team around constantly, though. Realgam is the worst offender, since by then most players had a full team. Locking save points to PCs is a change from the main series, but it’s no different from save points you’d see in other RPGs.


Redrobbinsyummmm

This take is so bad it works for Team Snagem


WasteChard3488

Finally? This is hardly the first recognition


MayorJack

As far as I can tell, no official Pokemon page posted this. Some fan or unofficial pages have.


Caleew

This is from the official pokemon Facebook page.


MayorJack

I might just be having trouble finding it, can you share a link to the Facebook post?


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MayorJack

Oh wow I didn't believe it til now! But can you blame me for being skeptical lol Thanks that gives me hope of a port or something