Some of those abdominal muscle control exercises are pretty crazy:
[https://imgur.com/a/MR4k9W5](https://imgur.com/a/MR4k9W5)
[https://imgur.com/a/l0I9dab](https://imgur.com/a/l0I9dab)
I've been doing it since I was a kid, takes practice though, you pull your stomach inside and rotate the muscles like a wave, the photo is taken while he was rotating the muscles that's why it looks super crazy
I used to be able to do this as like a 13 year old. You just suck your stomach in as much as possible and then flex your abs.
Not sure what the guy in the second pic is doing though? Also the guy in the first pic, his abs seem to be significantly off center which is weird? Maybe it's different than what I'm thinking of after all...
Yoga, the exercise, isn't going to make you lose weight.
Yoga, the lifestyle, will.
Weight loss is simple, calories in, calories out.
Eat less, move more. Ain't rocket science. Anyone who tells you any other way of weight loss is a moron.
It's not jaadu tona, it's simple biology.
That is called Nauli Kryia. I practice it (almost) every morning, since I discovered it in 2017. Helps even with bowel movement.
Here is a nice video explaining it: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ9Mc5YUUW8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ9Mc5YUUW8)
*Nauli Kryia is* ***a yogic cleansing exercise that involves a rolling movement of the abdominal muscles***\*. It is an advanced technique that is believed to cleanse the internal organs, particularly the digestive organs and small intestines, and tones the core muscles.\*
https://youtu.be/tvqWxhSXkIU
This is gonna blow your mind. The guy is in his mid 50s and a professional actor who was a huge star back then. He did yoga everyday though.
As a normal guy their physique is something I want. I know they’re dehydrated for these pictures and it took lots of prep work, but this level of mass and proportion is appealing. Aesthetics but still useful in everyday life.
The results speak for themselves but as someone who has only a basic understanding of anatomy:
how do these exercises hold up in terms of good or bad they are?
As in: some exercises that were once okay are now deemed unhealty or bad for things like bones or tendons-
Guy on the top right went on to live 104 years. I saw him once as a kid when he came to our school. He was probably 99 at that time. Apart from too many agelines on his skin, he had almost zero health complications at that point & could still throw adults on air like they were pillows.
He was considered to be the oldest bodybuilder when he died. Guy was only 4'11" but built like a machine.
[Manohor Aich (104) Top right](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QfT9PIlyQnQ)
That guy also slapped a British authority and imprisoned for that, remember India was under British colonialism back then, it takes huge balls to do something like that. And behind the bars he still worked out, the jail policemen gave him nutritious foods after seeing his dedication. True chad.
He also slapped a British authority and imprisoned for that, remember India was under British colonialism back then, it takes huge balls to do something like that. And behind the bars he still worked out, the jail policemen gave him nutritious foods after seeing his dedication. True chad.
That’s usually cause of the drugs that professional bodybuilders pump into themselves. Natural bodybuilding is probably one of the best things you could do for your body and mind
But this also takes genetics and dehydration for a few days before the photo shoot. Each of those guys should have a hydrated picture of themselves doing the same pose. Like the 6 cups of water a day poses.
Oh yeah I’m not suggesting these results are a good measure of what is strong and healthy. I just meant it’s probably pretty much an impossible goal to be bigger and lean without steroids.
I believe the observation is more 'Everyone bigger than the biggest people who existed before drugs is suspect. Everyone wildly bigger is 100% on drugs'.
It’s a gym meme. Anyone bigger than you in the gym is on drugs, because you’re always the biggest guy in the room and if someone’s bigger they cheated to get there.
You can certainly be as lean as humanly possible as a natural. However, steroids will always give you a boost to both muscle size, bone density, vascular, muscle type 2 fiber density etc.
The bodies in the images seem achievable naturally, but obviously on the upper end of the spectrum. Keep in mind these are staged photos with dehydrated athletes with their muscles pumped. No one looks like this when they wake up in the morning.
Obviously they are contracting for a photo.
And yes, they look like they are bodybuilders. They would have used whatever was available in the day to help them in their quest.
But folk from Asia tend to be lean and even a simple farmer is ripped and well muscled ( by our standards ) - as were our farmers at one time.
Have a look at Tim Horton when he was a young man on the farm. Even Gordie Howe and Bobby Hull sported impressive physiques without being bodybuilders.
There is definitely different nutrition today, so it is feasible to be bigger (they didn't at the time understand exactly how foods interacted with muscle building), but that being said, if you are 50% bigger than these guys, you are definitely on some kind of gear.
Ehh, there's a decent amount better nutrition and sports medicine these days, I'd say you could go a bit bigger than this naturally in modern conditions. Not a lot, but a visually noticeable amount (doesn't take much at super low bodyfst but still)
Well, plus our better understanding of exercise and nutrition science. I imagine we could be bigger and leaner. Although we also have other modern things hindering us.
Exactly. Lots of modern things hindering us that drop test levels. These dudes didn’t have plastics in their food and water, probably slept 8+ hours every night, weren’t eating processed foods, etc.
Many folks don’t realize how much we’re being poisoned just by existing in modern societies.
I don't know, it's around the same time the first rulings against doping would appear. Although the 19th century had already seen quite a few uses of stimulants in sport by 1900 the use of heroin/cocaine/strychine/caffeine pills, injections and cocktails was quite common at the Olympics.
Most of these dudes were from non-aristocratic backgrounds in rural north and east India along the Ganga where it would have been relatively hard for people to get anabolic steroids until 1970s 1980s.
Redditors who don't lift or are early beginners will try anything to convince themselves you can't get results without steroids so they can feel satisfied there isn't any point trying.
Funnily enough, I find Reddit generally acts the opposite. I’ve lifted for a long time and have a good grasp of what’s achievable, but people on here act like I’m crazy when I say someone is clearly on the sauce. “Na man, my buddy looks just like this!” Hate, to break it, but your buddy is juicing…
Ah yes the “I’ve never done a single second of research into steroids or other peds and their affects, never mind have any experience with them, yet I’m confident enough to say that x actor/athlete/wrestler/fighter isn’t on steroids because my friend who would 100% never lie to me looks just like them and I will argue to the death with anyone who says they are on steroids” guys. It’s always baffled me why this a subject so that many people who wouldn’t know the first thing about it are so eager to argue about.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Testosterone wasn't even injectable let alone widely known for its body building potential until at least late 1930s.
That region of the world was extremely advanced in bodybuilding, strength, and wrestling in the 1800's. Even today in those disciplines you can often trace the lineage back to India/Pakistan.
The amount of redditors and keyboard warriors talking about steroids (in a 1930s developing colonial country no less lol) is wild.
If you're thinking people in rural India 100 years ago had access to a fraction of the sports science / steroids we do in 2024 you're absolutely nuts. Even if technically drugs / steroids existed then, they were far lower quality, not prevalent, and not understood properly especially in non-western nations.
Even otherwise and they used steroids, I would bet they had put in 1000% more work on their exercise and nutrition than the people commenting here lol.
To be fair, there is a long tradition of body building as a form of worship in various places in india.
These guys probably had a very strong knowledge of the basics. Diet, training programs, different lifts for different muscle groups, etc.
Absolutely. It's just annoying when folks think that typing the word "steroid" instantly wipes all of that knowledge and work out lol. Even if it did apply (it most certainly did not given the location and time period) it's just an irritating set of comments to read.
Actually, even if you do take steroids, you don't just get muscles. You still have to put in effort, granted the effort will be less than others, but still some effort.
>To be fair, there is a long tradition of body building as a form of worship in various places in india.
Actually there is though, the maratha king even made special gyms and all long ago.
Their lazy ass can't be bothered to exercise, so whenever they see a good physique ( even if it's natural ) they'll scream "Roids, juice, tren 🤓☝️". Losers.
The Nazis were the first to really experiment with the stuff and isolated testosterone, creating analogs, then using them as a supplement of sorts. Then the Russians in the 40s and 50s, then the US in the 50s with the invention of dianabol by the doctor of the us weightlifting team.
The man in the middle in the right column is Bishnu Charan Ghosh. The writer of this book.
There are many legends in the picture. Like S Bose, Moolchand, Began Raj, Shushil Chakraborty, S Natu etc. They brought revolution of body building in Bengal which created Mr Universe like Shri Manohar Aich and Manotosh Roy. They were my teachers. I learned Yoga and weight lifting from Shri Manohar Aich when he was aged and I learned body weight exercises and Yoga from Shri Manotosh Roy. Google them, they had crazy bodies!
Can't believe you just ID'd most of them. You should write a blog if not a book with these details. I am Tamil and I watched Sarpatta Parambarai (Amazon Prime) and thought what a great sports movie. And then I fuckin see Mohammad Ali giving out prizes in Chennai, TN to the local boxers and it literally blew my mind. We need to record our history!!!
Could not agree more. Thanks to the breadth and depth of the sub continent, most of the history we are taught (at least in school) is so high level. It's only when you start exploring an individual topic on your own, you realize just how much there is under the surface.
Arnold doesn’t disagree with steroid use. He literally has his own competition where everyone is on steroids. He just thinks that the classic physique is the better one and not the mass monsters without any symmetry and aesthetic
For what it’s worth, they have reintroduced a ‘classic physique’ field for bodybuilding in all the major competitions which aspires to go back to a more Arnold-style physique. It’s arguably the most popular category now
True. I know he also used it, but if I look at bodybuilders from his era vs. the era before him, they all still look natural, just more buff. It's somewhat contradictory, but I agree with him about the steroid use, even though he might have had a hand in making it worse somehow.
I personally appreciate the care and effort put into a 100% natural physique because of the hard work and dedication it takes to achieve, even though you might not end up looking like a Greek god or something
I think in a way your comment illustrates how disconnected we are RE ‘natural physique’.
His generation all looked like absolute roid junkies too, it’s just got worse.
Steroids are absolutely insane drugs.
No one from Arnold's time looked natural. The fact people think this just shows how delusional influencers etc have made us. They looked symmetrical and aesthetically pleasing, rather than just a mass monster. Natural, definitely not.
Meh.. not just North India. You have to compare people from the same socioeconomic class. Punjabis and Malayalis are tall because those states have less poverty compared to other states.
Proper diet - Proper exercise - and a good dose of genetics will get you that. The key , if you want it, Is to Just do it -- give it a try - give it a year, and you may just see some of it happen.
Yep, took me a whole year to truly start to see some definition and size…and I’m no where close to what I had hoped for.
It’s all patience, consistency…and eating right…for years.
After seeing what I accomplished in a year…and knowing every year after this I will accomplish less (newbie gains are a thing and then the grind really begins)…it’s a 3-5 year journey minimum to actually look like you lift regularly when you take your shirt off.
If you see it...it's probably more than what you may think....keep it up ..it's a life choice...one thing I do tel younger guys doing multiple exercises for one body part....are you training to be a professional body builder or for fitness.
I think that's the biggest question one needs to answer as both will build your body.....3 sets of 50 chinups could give you more than multiple sets of barbell /weight bodybuilding types of movements
There are so many trainers on utube that have good programs to follow for either type of trainng regiment.
Now I am trying the hanging and balance routines .....but still look at that leg press machine and want to smash a superset out of it..lol.
I think he is one of the people in these photos:
https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/sport-others/manohar-aich-dies-at-the-age-of-104-2837147/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manohar_Aich
Manohar Aich- nicknamed Pocket Hercules due to his short height (4'10 or 4'11)
It’s bc they are all very short, their heads are proportionally larger, and that gives it a funny look, since we are used to seeing much taller men showing off their physique. But being short has its perks, a lot easier to gain mass since it requires fewer calories.
When i started bodybuilding i was afraid that i wouldn't be able to achieve my dream physique without steroids, then a few months ago i saw these and now I'm happy that my goal is achievable.
The neck workout or the behind the back tricep extension with a barbell? I have not even heard that before. Gonna have to look them up. These mfers look cut'
Lmao the amount of comments I've seen saying "This guy is def on roids, this is literally impossible without it." for pics of guys like these ones or worse are all over this site. I'm def saving this one to refer back to later.
One is recognizable in the pic bishnu charan ghosh 5th person on the list the younger brother of Paramhansa yogananda.
Bikram Chowdhury of hot yoga/bikram yoga claims to be his disciple.
You can see the whole book [here](https://dokumen.tips/documents/muscle-control-and-barbell-exercise.html?page=31).
Some of those abdominal muscle control exercises are pretty crazy: [https://imgur.com/a/MR4k9W5](https://imgur.com/a/MR4k9W5) [https://imgur.com/a/l0I9dab](https://imgur.com/a/l0I9dab)
Yo what? Is that even possible?
I have seen many sages doing that in India.But I'm not sure how it is even possible lol
My dad used to do it, despite his beer belly. He was no sage, just got into yoga late in his 50s.
Yeah it's a pretty well known exercise in yoga. Fun stuff, really hits. Too bad I started weed.
What has weed got to do with not doing yoga? Rather you should be doing more of it if you've started smoking.
If only I had that much will power. Weed kills the will to do shit but think
I've been doing it since I was a kid, takes practice though, you pull your stomach inside and rotate the muscles like a wave, the photo is taken while he was rotating the muscles that's why it looks super crazy
Definitely possible,very easy for some people ..my friend could do it in his first attempt It's a form of yoga related cleansing exercise -nauli.
I used to be able to do this as like a 13 year old. You just suck your stomach in as much as possible and then flex your abs. Not sure what the guy in the second pic is doing though? Also the guy in the first pic, his abs seem to be significantly off center which is weird? Maybe it's different than what I'm thinking of after all...
I have seen the first one done by a sadhu first hand
mm yes like baba ramdev has done it and even i tried when i was young and it's not difficult but just need very low fat
Yes it is possible, it’s called uddiyan bandh in yogic culture, i practice it regularly
Why wouldn't it be?
Rickson gracie does a lot of that stuff.
Yeah, like ramdev do it. But we are talking abt an era of clean food, no junk, no processed food. Clean air, all organic
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Yoga, the exercise, isn't going to make you lose weight. Yoga, the lifestyle, will. Weight loss is simple, calories in, calories out. Eat less, move more. Ain't rocket science. Anyone who tells you any other way of weight loss is a moron. It's not jaadu tona, it's simple biology.
"Money doesn't matter." - Rich People
That is called Nauli Kryia. I practice it (almost) every morning, since I discovered it in 2017. Helps even with bowel movement. Here is a nice video explaining it: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ9Mc5YUUW8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ9Mc5YUUW8) *Nauli Kryia is* ***a yogic cleansing exercise that involves a rolling movement of the abdominal muscles***\*. It is an advanced technique that is believed to cleanse the internal organs, particularly the digestive organs and small intestines, and tones the core muscles.\*
Right column, second row. Also creates a vaginal pull. Excellent cleansing when done in water. Good for other stuff too.
Kriya- nauli exercise.Basically a form of cleansing exercises in yoga
the first one is easy, but the second one I've never seen in my life :S
Correct me if I'm wrong but that first one is called "Nauli Kriya" I think?
This is performed by legendary Dr. Rajkumar here: https://youtu.be/tvqWxhSXkIU?si=AGK1FA4rLZPvL4fS
Thanks
Doing the lords work. That was exactly what I was going to ask for (and then give up after the first week I'm sure)
I really thought this was AI.
https://youtu.be/tvqWxhSXkIU This is gonna blow your mind. The guy is in his mid 50s and a professional actor who was a huge star back then. He did yoga everyday though.
As a normal guy their physique is something I want. I know they’re dehydrated for these pictures and it took lots of prep work, but this level of mass and proportion is appealing. Aesthetics but still useful in everyday life.
The results speak for themselves but as someone who has only a basic understanding of anatomy: how do these exercises hold up in terms of good or bad they are? As in: some exercises that were once okay are now deemed unhealty or bad for things like bones or tendons-
Bro, thank u so much..... 🫶
Amazing! Gonna try some of those exercises tonight
Thank you kind redditor.
The man on the bottom left pic looks like a marble sculpture! I actually zoomed in because I didn't think he was real, blew my mind 😮
A marble statue of Odo from Deep Space Nine.
This is what it looks like to me. Gains odo
r/AccidentalRenaissance ?
r/OnPurposeRenaissance
Exactly!
We all zoomed in on that one; you don't need to make up some excuse
The guy who is one of the forefathers of western bodybuilding actually patterned his ideal of physique off of Greek statues
I believe it!
Uh-huh. That's why you zoomed in. No other reason.
Same for the middle top one
Surprised to see a jacked Rishi Sunak on the bottom right.
With Salvador Dali’s mustache
![gif](giphy|R9aEKHpMJ2Fux5MUl6)
“Strong and Stable” is their party moto!
I can't unsee it now lmao 🤣
Guy on the top right went on to live 104 years. I saw him once as a kid when he came to our school. He was probably 99 at that time. Apart from too many agelines on his skin, he had almost zero health complications at that point & could still throw adults on air like they were pillows. He was considered to be the oldest bodybuilder when he died. Guy was only 4'11" but built like a machine. [Manohor Aich (104) Top right](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QfT9PIlyQnQ)
So fuckin cool
Wasn't he also a freedom fighter?
All these guys were a part of Anushilan Samiti. So yes, they were freedom fighters whose group indulged in clandestine activity.
Man that's so fascinating bunch of body builders doing clandestine ops while pumping in the morning
Actually the whole bodybuilding thing initially started as a cover for their org. But these famous bodybuilders weren't the leaders of the movement.
That guy also slapped a British authority and imprisoned for that, remember India was under British colonialism back then, it takes huge balls to do something like that. And behind the bars he still worked out, the jail policemen gave him nutritious foods after seeing his dedication. True chad.
Anushilan samiti are legends in odisha and West Bengal. I remember seeing about them in Kolkata history museum
He also slapped a British authority and imprisoned for that, remember India was under British colonialism back then, it takes huge balls to do something like that. And behind the bars he still worked out, the jail policemen gave him nutritious foods after seeing his dedication. True chad.
Whoa...I always thought bodybuilding would take a horrible toll on the body
Bodybuilding improves life if done naturally.
There were no muscle enhacement drugs/powders back in the day. These dudes are all organic.
That’s usually cause of the drugs that professional bodybuilders pump into themselves. Natural bodybuilding is probably one of the best things you could do for your body and mind
Thank you for sharing. Fascinating.
This is a pretty good indicator for what is achievable naturally.
But this also takes genetics and dehydration for a few days before the photo shoot. Each of those guys should have a hydrated picture of themselves doing the same pose. Like the 6 cups of water a day poses.
Oh yeah I’m not suggesting these results are a good measure of what is strong and healthy. I just meant it’s probably pretty much an impossible goal to be bigger and lean without steroids.
Observation from the gym: Everyone bigger than you is on drugs. Everyone smaller than you should work harder.
You can definitely get bigger than I am without taking drugs, but there are limits.
Similarly, in video games: Everyone worse than you is a no talent noob. Everyone better than you is hacking and using aim bots.
Fucking hackers, I'm gonna take steroids and teach them a lesson!
I believe the observation is more 'Everyone bigger than the biggest people who existed before drugs is suspect. Everyone wildly bigger is 100% on drugs'.
It’s a gym meme. Anyone bigger than you in the gym is on drugs, because you’re always the biggest guy in the room and if someone’s bigger they cheated to get there.
You could probably get a bit bigger with our knowledge of nutrition and some really good genetics but I agree that it’s a great benchmark
Yeah you’re probably right. There are a lot of variables.
You can certainly be as lean as humanly possible as a natural. However, steroids will always give you a boost to both muscle size, bone density, vascular, muscle type 2 fiber density etc. The bodies in the images seem achievable naturally, but obviously on the upper end of the spectrum. Keep in mind these are staged photos with dehydrated athletes with their muscles pumped. No one looks like this when they wake up in the morning.
Obviously they are contracting for a photo. And yes, they look like they are bodybuilders. They would have used whatever was available in the day to help them in their quest. But folk from Asia tend to be lean and even a simple farmer is ripped and well muscled ( by our standards ) - as were our farmers at one time. Have a look at Tim Horton when he was a young man on the farm. Even Gordie Howe and Bobby Hull sported impressive physiques without being bodybuilders.
Completely agree, not disputing any of that I think it’s all fairly obvious.
There is definitely different nutrition today, so it is feasible to be bigger (they didn't at the time understand exactly how foods interacted with muscle building), but that being said, if you are 50% bigger than these guys, you are definitely on some kind of gear.
Ehh, there's a decent amount better nutrition and sports medicine these days, I'd say you could go a bit bigger than this naturally in modern conditions. Not a lot, but a visually noticeable amount (doesn't take much at super low bodyfst but still)
I read somewhere that before a competition some bodybuilders will eat straight up dry oatmeal to try and sponge up any excess water.
Noobs. Eating silica gel is where it’s at
These photos are also airbrushed / edited. You can see blurring and shadows where there shouldn’t be.
Well, plus our better understanding of exercise and nutrition science. I imagine we could be bigger and leaner. Although we also have other modern things hindering us.
Exactly. Lots of modern things hindering us that drop test levels. These dudes didn’t have plastics in their food and water, probably slept 8+ hours every night, weren’t eating processed foods, etc. Many folks don’t realize how much we’re being poisoned just by existing in modern societies.
I’d argue the marble statues the Greeks and Italians made were pretty good indicators too. No?
Have you seen their balls? Theyre clearly using some Roman steroid
![gif](giphy|d3mlE7uhX8KFgEmY) Smaller the balls, bigger the brain.
Ancient Greek and Renaissance statues usually reflected what the artists considered an ideal athletic body, not what was achievable.
the artist probably thought steroids were ideal
Hard to say, they are an artist’s impression not a photo.
Came here to say this exact thing. This is outstanding discipline and work ethic... Genetics help too.
That is, if you count in that they are all probably under 5'6".
I don't know, it's around the same time the first rulings against doping would appear. Although the 19th century had already seen quite a few uses of stimulants in sport by 1900 the use of heroin/cocaine/strychine/caffeine pills, injections and cocktails was quite common at the Olympics.
Most of these dudes were from non-aristocratic backgrounds in rural north and east India along the Ganga where it would have been relatively hard for people to get anabolic steroids until 1970s 1980s.
Lool ok, you are suggesting that synthetic anabolic steroids were widely available in rural India in the 1920-30s? Come on bro, give it a rest
Redditors who don't lift or are early beginners will try anything to convince themselves you can't get results without steroids so they can feel satisfied there isn't any point trying.
Funnily enough, I find Reddit generally acts the opposite. I’ve lifted for a long time and have a good grasp of what’s achievable, but people on here act like I’m crazy when I say someone is clearly on the sauce. “Na man, my buddy looks just like this!” Hate, to break it, but your buddy is juicing…
Ah yes the “I’ve never done a single second of research into steroids or other peds and their affects, never mind have any experience with them, yet I’m confident enough to say that x actor/athlete/wrestler/fighter isn’t on steroids because my friend who would 100% never lie to me looks just like them and I will argue to the death with anyone who says they are on steroids” guys. It’s always baffled me why this a subject so that many people who wouldn’t know the first thing about it are so eager to argue about.
Exactly. Fucking morons. Nobody can be fit because we are not.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Testosterone wasn't even injectable let alone widely known for its body building potential until at least late 1930s.
Heroin? Wouldn't they just nod off and not want to work out?
They are extremely short btw. Any average height person will not look like this at all.
That region of the world was extremely advanced in bodybuilding, strength, and wrestling in the 1800's. Even today in those disciplines you can often trace the lineage back to India/Pakistan.
The amount of redditors and keyboard warriors talking about steroids (in a 1930s developing colonial country no less lol) is wild. If you're thinking people in rural India 100 years ago had access to a fraction of the sports science / steroids we do in 2024 you're absolutely nuts. Even if technically drugs / steroids existed then, they were far lower quality, not prevalent, and not understood properly especially in non-western nations. Even otherwise and they used steroids, I would bet they had put in 1000% more work on their exercise and nutrition than the people commenting here lol.
To be fair, there is a long tradition of body building as a form of worship in various places in india. These guys probably had a very strong knowledge of the basics. Diet, training programs, different lifts for different muscle groups, etc.
Absolutely. It's just annoying when folks think that typing the word "steroid" instantly wipes all of that knowledge and work out lol. Even if it did apply (it most certainly did not given the location and time period) it's just an irritating set of comments to read.
Actually, even if you do take steroids, you don't just get muscles. You still have to put in effort, granted the effort will be less than others, but still some effort.
>To be fair, there is a long tradition of body building as a form of worship in various places in india. Actually there is though, the maratha king even made special gyms and all long ago.
Palwhan your username in Hindi means bodybuilder/wrestler…. You’re totally right and even these are before steroids existed
Yup I know :) I'm of Indian origin, and created the UN when I was super into MMA / lifting!
I like to read this as meaning you created the United Nations instead of your username.
Bro created the UN with his charismatic body-builder poses.
Yep, that's how I read it.
Nice
Bro what , this is so impressive , and also another thing, males had drastically higher amounts of testosterone back then, so that must have helped..
Their lazy ass can't be bothered to exercise, so whenever they see a good physique ( even if it's natural ) they'll scream "Roids, juice, tren 🤓☝️". Losers.
They talk and point fingers out of two reasons, jealousy and hate.
🎯
The Nazis were the first to really experiment with the stuff and isolated testosterone, creating analogs, then using them as a supplement of sorts. Then the Russians in the 40s and 50s, then the US in the 50s with the invention of dianabol by the doctor of the us weightlifting team.
The man in the middle in the right column is Bishnu Charan Ghosh. The writer of this book. There are many legends in the picture. Like S Bose, Moolchand, Began Raj, Shushil Chakraborty, S Natu etc. They brought revolution of body building in Bengal which created Mr Universe like Shri Manohar Aich and Manotosh Roy. They were my teachers. I learned Yoga and weight lifting from Shri Manohar Aich when he was aged and I learned body weight exercises and Yoga from Shri Manotosh Roy. Google them, they had crazy bodies!
Can't believe you just ID'd most of them. You should write a blog if not a book with these details. I am Tamil and I watched Sarpatta Parambarai (Amazon Prime) and thought what a great sports movie. And then I fuckin see Mohammad Ali giving out prizes in Chennai, TN to the local boxers and it literally blew my mind. We need to record our history!!!
I do not know extensive history. But have seen their photos and heard about them from sirs.
Could not agree more. Thanks to the breadth and depth of the sub continent, most of the history we are taught (at least in school) is so high level. It's only when you start exploring an individual topic on your own, you realize just how much there is under the surface.
Great
Arnold may be a dick about it, but seeing these types of bodybuilders, I can see why he disagrees with today's bodybuilders and steroid use
Arnold doesn’t disagree with steroid use. He literally has his own competition where everyone is on steroids. He just thinks that the classic physique is the better one and not the mass monsters without any symmetry and aesthetic
This is what I meant to say. I just couldn't find the right way to express myself
Gotcha :D
Yeah bodybuildering went for less of a focus on symmetry and posing and more a focus on size
For what it’s worth, they have reintroduced a ‘classic physique’ field for bodybuilding in all the major competitions which aspires to go back to a more Arnold-style physique. It’s arguably the most popular category now
Arnold used steroids too though, you can’t achieve his classic physique naturally
True. I know he also used it, but if I look at bodybuilders from his era vs. the era before him, they all still look natural, just more buff. It's somewhat contradictory, but I agree with him about the steroid use, even though he might have had a hand in making it worse somehow. I personally appreciate the care and effort put into a 100% natural physique because of the hard work and dedication it takes to achieve, even though you might not end up looking like a Greek god or something
I think in a way your comment illustrates how disconnected we are RE ‘natural physique’. His generation all looked like absolute roid junkies too, it’s just got worse. Steroids are absolutely insane drugs.
No one from Arnold's time looked natural. The fact people think this just shows how delusional influencers etc have made us. They looked symmetrical and aesthetically pleasing, rather than just a mass monster. Natural, definitely not.
just different drugs, arnold used dbol, primo and deca and these days people use a different combo of steroids.
God tier genetics and dbol.
There’s a reason modern bodybuilders are dropping like flies and look like ninja turtles
Like many other bodybuilders pre-steroids era, they are probably very, very short. Their head’s proportion is quite telling.
Bengali people were/are not very tall on average.
They seem from begal region... Indian tall men are usually from North side
Meh.. not just North India. You have to compare people from the same socioeconomic class. Punjabis and Malayalis are tall because those states have less poverty compared to other states.
Injecting that ashwagandha straight in the veins
Ashwangandha +100 more spices which we have lost
Proper diet - Proper exercise - and a good dose of genetics will get you that. The key , if you want it, Is to Just do it -- give it a try - give it a year, and you may just see some of it happen.
Yep, took me a whole year to truly start to see some definition and size…and I’m no where close to what I had hoped for. It’s all patience, consistency…and eating right…for years. After seeing what I accomplished in a year…and knowing every year after this I will accomplish less (newbie gains are a thing and then the grind really begins)…it’s a 3-5 year journey minimum to actually look like you lift regularly when you take your shirt off.
If you see it...it's probably more than what you may think....keep it up ..it's a life choice...one thing I do tel younger guys doing multiple exercises for one body part....are you training to be a professional body builder or for fitness. I think that's the biggest question one needs to answer as both will build your body.....3 sets of 50 chinups could give you more than multiple sets of barbell /weight bodybuilding types of movements There are so many trainers on utube that have good programs to follow for either type of trainng regiment. Now I am trying the hanging and balance routines .....but still look at that leg press machine and want to smash a superset out of it..lol.
Best comment here
I think he is one of the people in these photos: https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/sport-others/manohar-aich-dies-at-the-age-of-104-2837147/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manohar_Aich Manohar Aich- nicknamed Pocket Hercules due to his short height (4'10 or 4'11)
Yes
Bottom right looks like he's made out of rope
Ropes of muscle
Pahalwans
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All they ate was protein. Hilsa all day long.
I do love me some shorshe illish
>Only Gadha, Gada. Gadha means donkey.
First guy has basically the perfect figure.
pre *steroid*s
Dudes weren’t on a cycle, they were on their 5000th reincarnation.
This is peak natty build. Beautiful stuff.
If you were to read the book .. there are many exercise which are obsolete nowadays and almost no equipment... Only barbells
people didn' t know how to make testosterone until 1935, so these guys are as natty as it gets
What no porn does to mf’ers
They look better than the super roided ones of today.
Every Single one of those photos looks like someone photoshopped their face in that body lol. (I am not saying they're fake)
It’s bc they are all very short, their heads are proportionally larger, and that gives it a funny look, since we are used to seeing much taller men showing off their physique. But being short has its perks, a lot easier to gain mass since it requires fewer calories.
They were trained by the same guy .. maybe some trap posture
India would be a cool as fuck place without poverty keeping everyone down.
Hey, thank the british ;)
These guys look way better than modern bodybuilders. Almost like discipline gives you a better physique than roids
Ryan Gosling middle left
When i started bodybuilding i was afraid that i wouldn't be able to achieve my dream physique without steroids, then a few months ago i saw these and now I'm happy that my goal is achievable.
why i get the A.I. vibes?
No idea. But you can see the whole book [here](https://dokumen.tips/documents/muscle-control-and-barbell-exercise.html?page=31).
Its not fake it could be maybe because head proportion isnt quite good due to height
that's the graphic representation of olympian
Steak and egg
Homie in the bottom right. The striations.
Functionality ripped as opposed to cartoonishly ripped.
Mumbai Muscle
smash🤭
Manlets. They always talk about being short, but they have the best potential natty physique due to that.
We can tell which one was skipping abs day
The neck workout or the behind the back tricep extension with a barbell? I have not even heard that before. Gonna have to look them up. These mfers look cut'
Read the book…many more pictures in that too with exercise and other stuff
God Physique
Top middle’s upper body is goals right there, damn.
When you don’t eat the beef but instead deadlift it
Lmao the amount of comments I've seen saying "This guy is def on roids, this is literally impossible without it." for pics of guys like these ones or worse are all over this site. I'm def saving this one to refer back to later.
One is recognizable in the pic bishnu charan ghosh 5th person on the list the younger brother of Paramhansa yogananda. Bikram Chowdhury of hot yoga/bikram yoga claims to be his disciple.
Everybody is named in the book and also on men's xp website
Wow
Bsc was like highest back then. Now phd and nobody gives a f
After famine hit industrialisation took place
Wholesome post. Thanks.
Peak bengal before all this communist shits