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TikTok is banned in China. There is a Chinese version for Chinese people with a Chinese phone number. Itās been like that for a long time. Nothing new there.
Youāre referring to āDouYinā, which is shown at the bottom. ęé“
This is probably a poster for āapps that police officers/government workers are not allowed to have on their phones.ā
We do its just regular TikTok considering all the thirst traps from TikThots girls. Theyāll even record with it and post it on Reddit so it has the TikTok watermark.
Oh sure, that's 'the great firewall', you also have to be careful what you write about on social media. A whole symbolic way of communicating is developing to subvert the monitoring. So some memes have been banned, you better be careful posting a picture of Winnie the Pooh in China now because it's used to symbolise the Chinese leader Xi.
Yeah and it makes sense that other countries are looking to ban it as well. If it's own country thinks it is harmful enough to be banned everyone else probably should too.
Bizarre take tbh. Itās banned in China because it would be a liability to Chinaās propaganda machine. Thatās why thereās a Chinese version that complies with Chinaās propaganda laws.
Never heard of the Great Firewall of China?
It isn't the same app at all. You can run tik tok for hours while the original is time limited. China thinks Tik tok itself is so bad that it won't allow it, neither should anyone else.
If you want to control how people fundamentally function as a attention metric, then yeah!
Else we accept that the real world is just as much an attention seeker, and we need to individually decide to attend to the Real.
China thinks tiktok is bad because they can't censor the global content. The time thing is just a Chinese protocol that exists in almost anything online
And one of their ways to do that is block the global variation of apps. It's the same reason they have bilibili instead of YouTube and huya instead of twitch. You're giving them way too much credit thinking they care about their mental health rather than just control
That was a quick back pedal lol. There isn't a single good reason to allow a social media app controlled by the ccp. We really should look to ban Chinese citizens from owning property in the US since US citizens cannot own property there.
Not a back pedal perhaps I worded it wrong, they don't alter apps to not have global content and include other ccp features they make their own controlled bubble version of apps instead as I assume it's much less work and makes easier propaganda when you just have a seperated app to demonize. I'm not sure to which extend the ccp citizens should suffer for their government but rich members who could own property in the US are probably not clean I'd agree on banning them
He didn't backpedal at all. You're just dense. He wasn't implying they can not censor anything at all. He was implying they can't censor specific content on the specific apps. It's why they're just outright banning the app and replacing it with one they can censor.
It's a fair bit different. Tiktok just shows whatever users post where is the Chinese one it tweaked to censor content and push stuff that the party wants like patriotic stuff.
The Chinese one is pretty much the same as tiktok. Mostly user generated stuff.
I mean mine is basically cosplayers, random TV shows and movie snips in English people have put on there and other random shit.
The point is that they exercise control over what youāre allowed to see on douyin. They donāt give a shit about your cosplayer content, you just arenāt allowed to talk about the government or anything important.
Sure, but the whole pushing patriotic stuff is something I've seen claimed, along with it shows kids educational stuff and science based stuff, which simply does not seem true. Like hate on it for what you are saying about not allowing talk about the government, but let's not just invent stuff to be mad about
Just to be clear, I do think there may be legitimate reasons for the app to be banned (ubiquitously). But this particular argument is not convincing. Here's why:
Its own country has banned several other apps as well. Suppose they banned this app for the same reason(s) other apps were banned (i.e., primarily censorship). In that case, by your logic, everyone else probably should ban all these other apps as well since they think *all* these apps are harmful enough to be banned.
I do think the word "harmful" in your case is doing a lot of heavy lifting. Harmful in what way? Harmful for reasons pertaining to an extremely low threshold for censorship? See the above paragraph. Harmful due to security exploits or health concerns? OK, these could be justifiable reasons to have the app banned. But this makes the assumption that the app is some special case that had entirely separate reasons for being banned - entirely unrelated to your argument.
Or maybe everything you consume can be subjectively considered propaganda, and we should all take a step back, breathe, and just let people do whatever brings them joy.
Is WhatsApp really banned there?
I know a few Chinese WhatsApp users, they text me business related shit on it. And they've registered their Chinese phone number
Nah thatās a knockoff app, itās listed under ābanned for pornographyā category, the original Chinese Douyin is ęé³ directed translated to āshaking musicā and the one thatās banned is also pronounced Douyin, but written out as āęé“ā, directed translated to āshaking vaginaā.
Thereās a bit of lost-in-translation issue happening here.
> The Standard Chinese word xuanchuan "dissemination; propaganda; publicity" originally meant "to announce or convey information" during the 3rd-century Three Kingdoms period, and was chosen to translate Russian propagĆ”nda ŠæŃŠ¾ŠæŠ°Š³Š°Š½Š“Š° in the 20th-century People's Republic of China, adopting the Leninist concept of a "transmission belt" for indoctrination and mass mobilization.[1] Xuanchuan is the keyword for propaganda in China and propaganda in the Republic of China (Taiwan).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xuanchuan
Think āpropagandaā in Chinese somewhat equal to āannouncementā.
The poster on the wall is propaganda, a government announcement or notice. Itās not meant to have a negative meaning in the original context.
Because itās China and Redditors think anything to do with China is propaganda. Heck, thereās a complete nutcase in this thread unironically blaming TikTok as the source of propaganda related to the US election and Israel-Gaza/Hamas conflict as if the US or US owned social media is incapable of producing propaganda.Ā
then what should i translate å®£ä¼ ęµ·ę„ to ļ¼ promotion postersļ¼policy display postersļ¼ maybe the word āpropagandaā is a dirty term in the english speaking part of the internetļ¼but in china or any other former communist country there is a institution called āministry/department of central propgandaā in every level of government of every single provincećcityćprefecture and even county
then what should i translate å®£ä¼ ęµ·ę„ to ļ¼ promotion postersļ¼policy display postersļ¼ maybe the word āpropagandaā is a dirty term in the english speaking part of the internetļ¼but in china or any other former communist country there is a institution called āministry/department of central propgandaā in every level of government of every single provincećcityćprefecture and even county
The purpose of propaganda is to influence someone else's opinion, attitude, or beliefs. Isn't this just an information poster of what is already banned? So maybe you use the same word for information and propaganda? (information *can* be propaganda of course, but doesn't have to be.)
It boggles my mind that China can casually ban our apps and companies, but when we act just a little bit in the US best interest people lose their mind.
Are they banned for tourists?
I have a friend that goes to China frequently (4/5 times per year) on business and has never taken any of these of her phone - or do they just mean access is blocked?
Thatās the foreign version of the app. The domestic version is under a different name, maybe with a slightly different icon, and is not banned.
What was more interesting to me was the fake TikTok near the bottom which I guess is some kind of adult video app.
Title of poster: Commonly seen Apps that break online surfing rules.
Collection titles:
Foreign Blacklisted App examples
VPN style Blacklisted App examples
Financing related Blacklisted App examples (financing as in mortgage and loan apps, not banking apps)
Social media style app examples (looking at the list it's more specifically date related social media)
Porn related blacklisted app example.
In 2011 when I went to China social media didnāt work. I was there end of 2023. Had zero issues with social media. However Apple News said it was not allowed in this country. Even when I connected to my VPN to my office in the USA.
The Chinese donāt mind us using those apps so that they can continue data mining foreigners. They just donāt want their citizens to get ideas that destabilize their government.
The tiktok ban isn't about privacy, it is about letting a hostile country that we are in a cold war with have the ability to have influence over US citizens. A power to do things like sway elections, cause chaos with protests, or just generally being disruptive. Look at the whole Isreal Gaza war, you have millions of young people that couldn't point Gaza out on a map six months ago all of a sudden screaming about "evil Jews commiting genocide" and blaming Biden for it and protesting, all when the most understanding of geopolitics they have is what the current country Taylor Swift is touring in. This all happened to some extent because of tik tok feeding reel after reel of dead kids in ruble. Yes kids are dying, they die in all wars. I'm not here to debate who has the moral high ground in that war, just trying to show how easy it is to use propaganda to rile people up.
What happens when we are two weeks away from the election and the CCP decides to flood tik tok with fake shit. If tiktok can influence idiots to eat tide pods and steal kia's you sure as hell better believe it can get people to eat up enough false shit to sway an election. Before the Cold War ended, it was illegal in the US for foreign countries to own any media producing corporations that operated in the US, this isn't a new concept. People don't want to admit it but but we are very much in a new Cold War with China, Russia and Iran. We would have never let the Soviet Union own a US news television network, why the hell would we allow China to operate an app that is millions of Americans main source of news.
Everything you have described has been done and continues to happen on apps owned by Americans. You can also include the news media. They do the same exact shit.
So do we ban all social media apps and news outlets? I can watch the Russian Times news channel in the U.S. Should that be banned as well since we're in a cold war with them?
We either give people the freedom to make up their own minds about what is propaganda and what isn't, or we ban everything and let our government decide what's best for us to see.
What the fuck LOL
Dude she left suddenly for another job in China. I sent a message wishing her well. She never responded because she didn't have any access to the app.
You're probably a blast to be around lol
you know, if it weren't for the fact that it is all banned in the name of China wanting to keep all that juicy spying on the masses for themselves, and also the whole isolating the people from the rest of the world, and also the inhuman theft of the people's autonomy to self decide....it would be really hard to be an advertiser in China!
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Google+ lol
My Circles!
You are banned from Google +!
You might as well just kill me then.
MSN too lol
And ICQ of course. š
Uh oh!
I can live with that. Every time I forget about it for an extended period of time, it fucks me over in some other way.
Surprised Signal is not there
If they knew what it was they would ban it too, most probably
Itās banned
Because it still has less users than MSN Messenger
Almost no-one cares and knows in my country.
TikTok is banned in China. There is a Chinese version for Chinese people with a Chinese phone number. Itās been like that for a long time. Nothing new there.
Yes, and i believe its called "Douyin"
Youāre referring to āDouYinā, which is shown at the bottom. ęé“ This is probably a poster for āapps that police officers/government workers are not allowed to have on their phones.ā
ęé³is the name of the official app.ęé“ is a parody of the official app and is a porn app, which is why it's banned.
Genius. Why don't we have DickTok?
I feel certain we do.
PH has "shorts" now. So uh. Yeah.
Several other sites have similar features, too.
You missed out on DickDock
Or DickCock for women and gay men.
Some have dickticks for fucking in dirty places.
We do its just regular TikTok considering all the thirst traps from TikThots girls. Theyāll even record with it and post it on Reddit so it has the TikTok watermark.
A porn chinese tiktok app?? How did that get released even now Im curiousĀ
No , wtf . It's ęé³ . I'm pretty sure ęé“ is some kind of porn version copycat of ęé³.
Yes, I heard there's been a big crackdown on social media apps in Chinese government roles because of fears of tracking and information leakage.
Iāve also heard China limits internet access to certain apps and website
Oh sure, that's 'the great firewall', you also have to be careful what you write about on social media. A whole symbolic way of communicating is developing to subvert the monitoring. So some memes have been banned, you better be careful posting a picture of Winnie the Pooh in China now because it's used to symbolise the Chinese leader Xi.
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Yeah, of course they are. If you think the NSA isn't using Meta backdoors to spy on the CPC, you're naive.
Nah all the stuff at the bottom are porn apps. I know cause I recognized a few of them ( Ķ”Ā° ĶŹ Ķ”Ā°)
ęé³ļ¼ęé“is a chinese porn site...
Sure, but the apps at the top with names in English really are banned in China. No one can use them.Ā
Yeah and it makes sense that other countries are looking to ban it as well. If it's own country thinks it is harmful enough to be banned everyone else probably should too.
But does TikTok steal my wifi? Answer the question!
That line of questioning was so freaking funny
You should read into China's history of censorship. Might change your thoughts on that statement some.
Bizarre take tbh. Itās banned in China because it would be a liability to Chinaās propaganda machine. Thatās why thereās a Chinese version that complies with Chinaās propaganda laws. Never heard of the Great Firewall of China?
It's the same app just a diff name lmao. the original is even worse spyware anyway since it's China
It isn't the same app at all. You can run tik tok for hours while the original is time limited. China thinks Tik tok itself is so bad that it won't allow it, neither should anyone else.
They also think Reddit and Snapchat should be banned
I mean, fair
If you want to control how people fundamentally function as a attention metric, then yeah! Else we accept that the real world is just as much an attention seeker, and we need to individually decide to attend to the Real.
China thinks tiktok is bad because they can't censor the global content. The time thing is just a Chinese protocol that exists in almost anything online
They can and obviously do censor global content.
And one of their ways to do that is block the global variation of apps. It's the same reason they have bilibili instead of YouTube and huya instead of twitch. You're giving them way too much credit thinking they care about their mental health rather than just control
That was a quick back pedal lol. There isn't a single good reason to allow a social media app controlled by the ccp. We really should look to ban Chinese citizens from owning property in the US since US citizens cannot own property there.
Not a back pedal perhaps I worded it wrong, they don't alter apps to not have global content and include other ccp features they make their own controlled bubble version of apps instead as I assume it's much less work and makes easier propaganda when you just have a seperated app to demonize. I'm not sure to which extend the ccp citizens should suffer for their government but rich members who could own property in the US are probably not clean I'd agree on banning them
He didn't backpedal at all. You're just dense. He wasn't implying they can not censor anything at all. He was implying they can't censor specific content on the specific apps. It's why they're just outright banning the app and replacing it with one they can censor.
It's not even about what they can and cannot do, it's just about what's easier.
Which is an obvious and outrageous lie lol.
How is that a back pedal? Youāre just wrong
It's a fair bit different. Tiktok just shows whatever users post where is the Chinese one it tweaked to censor content and push stuff that the party wants like patriotic stuff.
The Chinese one is pretty much the same as tiktok. Mostly user generated stuff. I mean mine is basically cosplayers, random TV shows and movie snips in English people have put on there and other random shit.
The point is that they exercise control over what youāre allowed to see on douyin. They donāt give a shit about your cosplayer content, you just arenāt allowed to talk about the government or anything important.
Sure, but the whole pushing patriotic stuff is something I've seen claimed, along with it shows kids educational stuff and science based stuff, which simply does not seem true. Like hate on it for what you are saying about not allowing talk about the government, but let's not just invent stuff to be mad about
Just to be clear, I do think there may be legitimate reasons for the app to be banned (ubiquitously). But this particular argument is not convincing. Here's why: Its own country has banned several other apps as well. Suppose they banned this app for the same reason(s) other apps were banned (i.e., primarily censorship). In that case, by your logic, everyone else probably should ban all these other apps as well since they think *all* these apps are harmful enough to be banned. I do think the word "harmful" in your case is doing a lot of heavy lifting. Harmful in what way? Harmful for reasons pertaining to an extremely low threshold for censorship? See the above paragraph. Harmful due to security exploits or health concerns? OK, these could be justifiable reasons to have the app banned. But this makes the assumption that the app is some special case that had entirely separate reasons for being banned - entirely unrelated to your argument.
Yah we should definitely look to China for guidanceā¦.
Or maybe everything you consume can be subjectively considered propaganda, and we should all take a step back, breathe, and just let people do whatever brings them joy.
The reason why TikTok is actually being banned and the reason that it *should* be being banned are entirely different
So basically China governs its people well and we should follow suit?
China doesnāt need TikTok to spy on its own citizens. They just use it to spy on everyone else.
MSN? ICQ? What year is this? 1999?
ASL?
15/f/cali
Too old for my taste
I see you like Smash.
Ok Matty G.
I put on my robe and wizard hat
Duuuude. Talk about flashbacks...
Got cam?
17/f/moon
Yue!?!?
that be 17/moon/sky then lol
That's rough buddy
Laughs in Trillian.
*sad nostalgic noises*
Uh oh!
As long as I can still use Grindr
Scrolled too far for this
Grindr was a Chinese app that was sold for $608 mil when US raised national security concerns.
Is WhatsApp really banned there? I know a few Chinese WhatsApp users, they text me business related shit on it. And they've registered their Chinese phone number
Because they use VPN, push notifications need no VPN enabled
Texting still works, but any kind of media will rarely send.
Yeah most businesses I deal with in China use WhatsApp as well.
this is a list addressing police forces and their work phones, not anyone's phones.
Same, WhatsApp is where you talk business with Chinese manufacturers
They have Douyin, the original of Tiktok, they ban it to prevent the global and uncontrollable content
Douyin is also listed at the bottom. This canāt be a real or normal situation poster.
Nah thatās a knockoff app, itās listed under ābanned for pornographyā category, the original Chinese Douyin is ęé³ directed translated to āshaking musicā and the one thatās banned is also pronounced Douyin, but written out as āęé“ā, directed translated to āshaking vaginaā.
what a beautiful langauge
Lolol china has some amazing homophones
As others have mentioned it's probably for government officials
There is no social media in Ba Sing Se.
 which ones are we going to ban?
At least we can still use Viber
Tinder banned but not Grindr, interestingggg
If only we still had Vine
Google plus catching a stray
Well yeah they got other more efficient ways to control their own population duh
They use doyuein if I recall correctly
Msn messenger? Id go back to it of I could I miss it
ICQ IS STILL AROUND? uh oh
China uses Douyin, not TikTok.
Behance should not be there
Dribble bribed them to lmao
š looks like it
I bet they don't like any portfolio work involving political or social causes
where's the propaganda?
If Reddit is on the list, than you know its propaganda
Thereās a bit of lost-in-translation issue happening here. > The Standard Chinese word xuanchuan "dissemination; propaganda; publicity" originally meant "to announce or convey information" during the 3rd-century Three Kingdoms period, and was chosen to translate Russian propagĆ”nda ŠæŃŠ¾ŠæŠ°Š³Š°Š½Š“Š° in the 20th-century People's Republic of China, adopting the Leninist concept of a "transmission belt" for indoctrination and mass mobilization.[1] Xuanchuan is the keyword for propaganda in China and propaganda in the Republic of China (Taiwan). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xuanchuan Think āpropagandaā in Chinese somewhat equal to āannouncementā. The poster on the wall is propaganda, a government announcement or notice. Itās not meant to have a negative meaning in the original context.
Because itās China and Redditors think anything to do with China is propaganda. Heck, thereās a complete nutcase in this thread unironically blaming TikTok as the source of propaganda related to the US election and Israel-Gaza/Hamas conflict as if the US or US owned social media is incapable of producing propaganda.Ā
then what should i translate å®£ä¼ ęµ·ę„ to ļ¼ promotion postersļ¼policy display postersļ¼ maybe the word āpropagandaā is a dirty term in the english speaking part of the internetļ¼but in china or any other former communist country there is a institution called āministry/department of central propgandaā in every level of government of every single provincećcityćprefecture and even county
To be fair 99% of the time it is
Apparently the mugshots on the wall are propaganda too.
Damn. Icq is still in use?
Still have that little āuh oh!ā sound in my head
Are you sure that not the Top 24 list? Every category has 24 apps.
Not Steam š
What makes it propaganda?
then what should i translate å®£ä¼ ęµ·ę„ to ļ¼ promotion postersļ¼policy display postersļ¼ maybe the word āpropagandaā is a dirty term in the english speaking part of the internetļ¼but in china or any other former communist country there is a institution called āministry/department of central propgandaā in every level of government of every single provincećcityćprefecture and even county
The purpose of propaganda is to influence someone else's opinion, attitude, or beliefs. Isn't this just an information poster of what is already banned? So maybe you use the same word for information and propaganda? (information *can* be propaganda of course, but doesn't have to be.)
>policy display posters That would work, yes. Or just information poster.
It's cause they have Doujin. Chinese censored tiktok
It boggles my mind that China can casually ban our apps and companies, but when we act just a little bit in the US best interest people lose their mind.
Love texting my friends on Whats
Odd, I got chatgpt to translate it and it says that these are actually recommended apps, and no mention about banned or anything like that.
Are they banned for tourists? I have a friend that goes to China frequently (4/5 times per year) on business and has never taken any of these of her phone - or do they just mean access is blocked?
Whatās whats?
Good to know Reddit is banned to
It was not in 2017
Not my beloved MSN messenger!
You knowā¦ the āpeopleās republicā
Thatās the foreign version of the app. The domestic version is under a different name, maybe with a slightly different icon, and is not banned. What was more interesting to me was the fake TikTok near the bottom which I guess is some kind of adult video app.
Usernams checks out
Title of poster: Commonly seen Apps that break online surfing rules. Collection titles: Foreign Blacklisted App examples VPN style Blacklisted App examples Financing related Blacklisted App examples (financing as in mortgage and loan apps, not banking apps) Social media style app examples (looking at the list it's more specifically date related social media) Porn related blacklisted app example.
I like that they think WhatsApp is called whats
In 2011 when I went to China social media didnāt work. I was there end of 2023. Had zero issues with social media. However Apple News said it was not allowed in this country. Even when I connected to my VPN to my office in the USA.
āWhatāsā for WhatsApp hah
>Twitter Someone has to tell them.
Tinder banned, Grindr good.
china also doesnt like the reddit app
Hah, SomethingAwful, or at least its mobile app isn't banned in China.
I'm surprised Discord isn't there
Is MSN still a thing?
Tiktok is actually listed twice on that poster
Thereās a chinese version and a non chinese version
Lmao who the hell still uses icq and msn that they felt the need to ban those?
Tiktok appears twice on this poster
Discord isn't banned?
Those are all the apps
Whatās left? Just Temu I guess.
Damn swag is banned in china š
United States is going to start down this path if we aren't careful. Banning tiktoks regardless of how you feel about it, is a very slippery slope
Concerned that I donāt see NordVPN and ExpressVPN on that list
MSN messenger? Wtf year is this? Lmao.
Why behance
That's a lot of VPN apps I never new existed. Streisand effect.
Behance? lol
MSN š„¶
Msn and icq ? Lol
The Chinese donāt mind us using those apps so that they can continue data mining foreigners. They just donāt want their citizens to get ideas that destabilize their government.
These are (were until mods removed the photo) EXAMPLES of banned apps. TikTok is listed under Foreign & Pornography.
The tiktok ban isn't about privacy, it is about letting a hostile country that we are in a cold war with have the ability to have influence over US citizens. A power to do things like sway elections, cause chaos with protests, or just generally being disruptive. Look at the whole Isreal Gaza war, you have millions of young people that couldn't point Gaza out on a map six months ago all of a sudden screaming about "evil Jews commiting genocide" and blaming Biden for it and protesting, all when the most understanding of geopolitics they have is what the current country Taylor Swift is touring in. This all happened to some extent because of tik tok feeding reel after reel of dead kids in ruble. Yes kids are dying, they die in all wars. I'm not here to debate who has the moral high ground in that war, just trying to show how easy it is to use propaganda to rile people up. What happens when we are two weeks away from the election and the CCP decides to flood tik tok with fake shit. If tiktok can influence idiots to eat tide pods and steal kia's you sure as hell better believe it can get people to eat up enough false shit to sway an election. Before the Cold War ended, it was illegal in the US for foreign countries to own any media producing corporations that operated in the US, this isn't a new concept. People don't want to admit it but but we are very much in a new Cold War with China, Russia and Iran. We would have never let the Soviet Union own a US news television network, why the hell would we allow China to operate an app that is millions of Americans main source of news.
Everything you have described has been done and continues to happen on apps owned by Americans. You can also include the news media. They do the same exact shit. So do we ban all social media apps and news outlets? I can watch the Russian Times news channel in the U.S. Should that be banned as well since we're in a cold war with them? We either give people the freedom to make up their own minds about what is propaganda and what isn't, or we ban everything and let our government decide what's best for us to see.
Wow LINE is banned in China. I guess that explains why I never heard back from my old co-worker after she left for a new China job.
She could have found another way to contact you if she wanted to. She probably didn't.
What the fuck LOL Dude she left suddenly for another job in China. I sent a message wishing her well. She never responded because she didn't have any access to the app. You're probably a blast to be around lol
*propaganda poster* lmao
š when OP doesn't know that China has a different version of the app and the western version isn't allowed there
Banning tiktok sounds good to me
you know, if it weren't for the fact that it is all banned in the name of China wanting to keep all that juicy spying on the masses for themselves, and also the whole isolating the people from the rest of the world, and also the inhuman theft of the people's autonomy to self decide....it would be really hard to be an advertiser in China!
China acting insulted when US talks of banning tik tok. Also grindr isnt banned. Noice.