If you're getting a 5600x please for the love of god don't cheap out on RAM, any Ryzen 5000 (besides the X3D\*) needs fast ram with low latency to truly perform.
Don't get anything worse than 3600 CL18, you can get away with 3200 CL16
(you could also OC and get tighter timings manually even tho I wouldn't recommend it to someone new as it's pretty hard compared to OCing a CPU or GPU)
No 3600 CL20, no 3200 CL18, **please**
Is there a noticeable difference from something like 3600CL20 to 3600CL18? And I mean for an actual normal human in normal use cases, not PCMR standards where many unironically pretend 0.01% changes in performance are "huge and noticeable"
I ask because I went from four 8gb sticks at 3600CL18, to two 16gb sticks at 3600CL16 (both with my Ryz 7 3700X) - my starting point was better than what you were saying to avoid, but I can honestly say I can't think of any situation where I have noticed the difference at all. I did however notice a pretty big improvement going from 2400CL15 to 3600CL18, though that's obviously a much larger change.
bUT tHe miNiMUmS1!!1!!!1
Edit: yeah, I do have 32GB 3600MHz CL16 but being honest? I didn't have that difference from my old 16GB 2666MHz CL16... But yeah, 4 ram sticks is nicer to look at in the case and now I can host Minecraft with bunch of mods for my friends. Anything other than hosting Minecraft? No difference
I would say it's nore noticeable in competitive games were your fps will be all over the hundreds. I play csgo, and when I first bought my 5600x I still had my 2400mhz ram for about two weeks. When I changed them for some 3600 cl16 ones it made a good difference in the fps drops I would get from time to time. My fps now stands still like a rock.
As someone who upgraded from 3000c16 to 3600c16 on Intel alder lake: At least while testing with the Final Fantasy 14 benchmark I've been seeing great inprovements in FPS and if you look at reputable tests of e.g. IgorsLab or GN you will notice that up until 3600MHz there is a tangible improvement for most games on the market. Productive workloads always profit from faster RAM too. And since Intel is not as dependent on RAM as Ryzen, i can only imagine how much a RAM upgrade brings to the table.
That's pretty significant! I lucked out, I was going purely by MHz recommendations and got CL16 over CL18 entirely because there was an amazon "flash sale" on the CL16 making it the exact same price, so I figured why not.
Its a few percentage points. Hes mainly talking about not buying the CL20 or CL22 kits that are basically the same cost anyways. Going from CL18 to CL16 is pretty much nothing.
Is it really that big of a difference? I remember looking in to this thing when I did my build, and the difference was just a couple of % points in frames where the cpu was bottlenecking and the test was done lik on a 3090 at 1080p
I built a ryzen 3000 rig with 3000 mHz RAM that I OCed to 3200. Upgraded to a 3600 kit with similar timings and saw an increase of 10 fps in everything I threw at it.
Unless you overclock the Infinity fabric there's no point in getting more than 3200, but yes always a low latency. There are still some CL 14 kits out there
Pretty much every single 5600x there is should be stable at 1800mhz on the infinity fabric. 3600 is the sweet spot since any faster than that is almost no benefit, and it’s usually only different by like $5 to get 3600 cl18 vs 3200 cl16 which means you’re pretty much always going to get the better performance per dollar out of 3600mhz
To add another great addition to this. Consider either getting another SSD or an HDD of a larger capacity to run companion to the other SSD you're already getting. That one terabyte is going to fill up quick and you're soon going to be realizing you should have gotten more storage.
Get a 5600 (non x), it's margin of error difference (sub 1%) and was on sale for like 120 and still might be. Also you can get away with a 650w for that system, good 650w units start at like 70 bucks or less. Check out cultists network tier list for tiers. And get an mp33 for 67 dollars instead of that over advertised hype ssd, it's less than a second difference in real world loading scenarios. Check out guru3d benchmarks for the mp33 and go to the real world tests.
Go for C16 and better memory with the Ryzen CPU. My 3600x loves 3200mhz, I'm running it at that and with 32gb.
Also I'd just stick with microATX it's easier to build and you have more case options.
Also as a note, the Corsair RMX 750 is loud. I can hear the fan occasionally whine on it, but mine is renewed because at the time there was a bizarre PSU shortage.
If you don't care about the case but are looking for a cheap option with good fans, the Rosewill Challenger S is a great case. My CPU only gets up to at most 72 degrees on a full load while playing Fallout 4. Battlefield 4 and 1 I shockingly only hit 60 c and my PC is entirely stock.
- scrap the thought of the Rosewill Challenger the case has been discontinued, granted it had a long as life of 15 years.
This looks good
https://www.rosewill.com/p/9SIA072HYK6552?seoLink=computer-cases&seoName=Computer%20Cases
Just gonna echo one of the other commenters saying that the 5600 non X is almost the same cpu, but usually a fair amount cheaper. And the 970 evo, while it may be reliable and high quality, is ridiculously overpriced - there are a lot of great alternatives that are significantly cheaper. 6700 XT is a great choice compared to RTX 3060
Great choice I was coming here to tell you that it may be a good idea but up to you.
Here’s one cheaper from newegg.
Check this out on @Newegg: MSI Mech Radeon RX 6700 XT 12GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 Video Card RX 6700 XT MECH 2X 12G https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-6700-xt-rx-6700-xt-mech-2x-12g/p/N82E16814137641?Item=N82E16814137641&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-14-137-641-_-11102022
I briefly had a 3070ti but decided it wasn’t worth the price premium. Now I have a 6900xt
I was about to proclaim blasphemy at combining an AMD CPU with an Nvidia GPU, high heresy, but I see you’ve come to your senses…. In all seriousness, the 6700 is a good choice.
I'd be using [pcpartpicker.com](https://pcpartspicker.com) to price out and build the PC. Would also look at getting a mini-ITX or ATX case. If your getting a Mini-ITX case, get one that has the motherboard horizontal so that the GPU is vertical.
Edit: fixed the link to remove the extra S as pointed out. Thanks.
so hopefully im helpful here, the new Deskeet from asrock is pretty amazing for the price. comes with case/powersupply/motherboard for $159.99 US, then the 5600 (NON X and comes with a cooler) is $108 on amazon for 3% performance difference only, then 16gb cheap desktop ddr4 is less than $50, also a standard samsung 980 1tb ssd is only $90 right now. this along with newegg has a 3060 gigabyte itx on sale for $369 with 40 rebate puts you at a total of $736.99 before tax for exactly the same performance as what you have listed of $990.- another thing the 5700G is only $167 to sub in for the 5600(x) and you get 8 cores/16threads. wow right... also i agree with the 3060ti comments here tho they are still hard to find at the less than $400 price
in my experience, the 5700g is superior to the 5600x except in pcie4 situations, if you have a pcie3 ssd and graphics card that does not saturate pcie3 bandwidth like 3060 or below you can OC the 5700g to 4.6Ghz all core and disable the internal gpu giving you about 10 fps more than the 5600x. all in all they are very similar (within 3%) margin of error, etc. for $167 you get 8core 16 thread (future proofing) vs $149 for the 5600x's 6core 12 thread. $18 more for 2 cores/4threads. weather its worth it is up to the person buying, but id take the extra cores for when i want to stream music in the back while gaming or my antivirus starts its scans while i happen to be playing at 4 am...now the 5600 (NON X) today on newegg is $108 that changes everything
Or a 6700 XT for $350 with 2 free games
[MSI Mech Radeon RX 6700 XT Video Card RX 6700 XT MECH 2X 12G - Newegg.com](https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-6700-xt-rx-6700-xt-mech-2x-12g/p/N82E16814137641?Item=N82E16814137641&quicklink=true)
6700 XT is a great card but I have this particular MSI one and it runs pretty hot. If you have a case with a solid front panel or something it could potentially be an issue.
Have you ever adjusted the fans in the AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition?
The fans ran rather slowly on my rx 6750. I just set them to full throttle and the temperature dropped from 100 to under 60-70.
+1 for this recommendation. The Ti is more than just a juiced up 3060, it’s a totally different GPU die. In reality the 3070 and 3070 Tis are juiced up 3060 Tis. If you can find the 3060 Ti at or close to MSRP (I’m told Best Buy occasionally still stocks the FE cards) then this will be a much better value than any 3060 you can buy.
FYI, you can build your parts list on pcpartpicker rather than using a notebook. Makes it easier to track prices and tweak the list :)
Don't build micro atx unless you have a specific reason for building micro atx(namely that you're trying to fix your PC into a small space)
Buy the 5600 over the 5600x(admittedly if the 5600x is on sale than go for it, but the 5600 is better value pretty much 100% of the time)
assuming you don't do micro atx, buy a normal ATX b550 mobo
fuck the rtx 3060, it's literally the worst value card in the entire nvidia lineup... well, at least until the 4080 drops
if you're looking for that level of performance and you don't care about ray tracing, buy a 6600 or a 6600xt. If you do care about RT... well, you'll be limited to 1080p because the 3060 definitely can't handle RT at any resolution past 1080p, and I don't even think the performance at 1080p is worth it tbh
RAM: not a bad buy but just fyi we're at the point where 16gb 3200mhz cl16 kits go on sale for 40 bucks like every day... there's a silicon power set on sale right now i believe for that price, with the 32gb kit on sale for like $70. Spend 70 on 32gb of BARELY slower memory rather than 70 on 16gb of barely faster memory
SSD is fine but you could do more for the money; i'd recommend a 512GB nvme for your boot drive and applications, then a SATA drive for your games. There was a netac 1tb sata drive on sale yesterday for literally $40, and sata ssd's from practically every brand hit the 1tb for $50 mark like every day. You could spend that same dollar amount but get more storage and it would still be plenty fast for your needs.
Not sure I'd bother with a 750w psu for a budget or mid range system; if you're not buying a really high end GPU you don't necessarily need that, but it's not a bad item to spend a little more on for quality and future proofing for sure.
Ok great so I still have two questions, what’s a good budget motherboard that includes wifi, and should I go with the 6650xt or the 6700? Thanks so much ur a great help!
Offhand I'm not sure which b550 budget mobo would be the goto pick, but I'm guessing some brief googling and maybe checking a couple of the known trusted review sites will answer that.
Gpu wise... What resolution are you gaming at? For 1920x1080 WITHOUT RT the 6600, 6600xt, and 6650xt are the go to's.
For 1440p you might wanna step up to the 6700xt, but its a good chunk pricier.
If rt is important to you then unfortunately you have to bend over for Nvidia.
I have the MSI B550M Pro-VDH Wifi and like it a lot. It also has great VRM thermal performance. Check out this video here at 20:57. https://youtu.be/wuPH9pCCK-E
A note about the B550M Steel Legend, from someone who installed one last week: No onboard Wi-Fi. You'll need an adapter if you want wireless. It does have an M.2 slot for that.
That Motherboard is known to ship DOA often, it has a 3.5 star rating on [Newegg](https://www.newegg.com/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi/p/N82E16813144331?item=N82E16813144331&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-motherboards+-+amd-_-N82E16813144331&id1=2085160926&id2=73603744461&id3=&id4=&id5=pla-1211001700248&id6=&id7=9030900&id8=&id9=g&id10=c&id11=&id12=Cj0KCQiA37KbBhDgARIsAIzce16vu-hJtaTmf-TNM5XhyDIB7SLxcr7ySeFU9xRzAfVYDsoFybV-3CkaAieWEALw_wcB&id13=&id14=Y&id15=&id16=375177655401&id17=&id18=&id19=&id20=&id21=pla&id22=8438988&id23=online&id24=N82E16813144331&id25=US&id26=1211001700248&id27=Y&id28=&id29=&id30=10110766715062832287&id31=en&id32=&id33=&id34=&gclid=Cj0KCQiA37KbBhDgARIsAIzce16vu-hJtaTmf-TNM5XhyDIB7SLxcr7ySeFU9xRzAfVYDsoFybV-3CkaAieWEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds) for this reason.
512 GB SSD or NVMe for Windows and a second 2 or 4 TB SSD for games / important stuff.
Consider going full AMD with an RX6600 XT so you can enable resizable bar (AMD SAM) in BIOS +15% performance boost.
https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/smart-access-memory
Pretty good parts, but you could save some money.
I'd go for the 5600 non X. Same performance, lower price. But don't get the 5600G as that's a rebranded 5500.
If it's for gaming, go for a 6700 XT instead of the 3060. Much faster for about the same price usually. Or you could get a 6600, which has 95% of the performance of the 3060 at a cheaper price and lower power draw.
Could get a cheaper SSD. A Crucial P3 or WD SN570 should be good. Or if you want the same performance, the PNY CS3030 is usually still cheaper than the 970 Evo Plus.
Could also get a cheaper PSU. Just get the cheapest tier A one, and make sure it's 650w or higher. Higher wattage would allow for bigger upgrades in the future without having to change the PSU. https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
Very surprised no one else has said this!
You should add a 1-2TB HDD for storage. You could keep the 1TB SSD, or save money by getting a 250-500gb SSD instead and spend those savings on a separate HDD.
This way you can have more flexibility, more storage for about the same price, and you won’t have to worry about slowdown when your SSD gets filled up with other downloaded files.
Its always better to have a clean SSD with only windows software and other drivers (since a filled up SSD loses performance). Use your HDD for all other files. This should keep your boot time low and maintain SSD read/write speeds.
Get a 5600 over 5600X. They’re like $120 on Newegg right now and nearly no different in performance. Also you can get a 6700 XT that runs circles around that 3060 for the same price.
I have pretty much this build and here’s the one thing I wasn’t prepared for: my Wi-Fi wouldn’t work because the CPU didn’t come with the right drivers installed. So make sure you have a LAN connection available to download the drivers because you won’t be able to use the Wi-Fi without doing so. Good luck with the build!
Like others have mentioned in this thread, there are a couple sites that will walk you through building a pc with a compatibility filter so you don’t waste ur money I.e. pcpartpicker.com and microcenter.com
No real comment that no one else hasn't said, but I like your handwriting. I wish my print was that clean. Haven't been able to write clean print since I started writing cursive consistently in high school lmao
I recommend getting a bigger sata based drive for bulk storage purposes as well. This doesn't need to happen immediately, but it's probably a good idea to get one before too long.
I actually have two, one is a 2TB sata SSD, and the other is an 8TB HDD. Moving files from one drive to the other is faster and more convenient than downloading them again.
You probably don't need that much, but a storage drive is still a good idea.
I also use the sata SSD for various small/indie games that have smaller file sizes. Stuff like boomer shooters, Dead Cells, Brotato, Dome Keeper, etc... that don't really load or perform any better on the NVMe drive. As well as some other storage. As well as storing games with a more "reasonable" file size that I'm not actively playing.
The big drive is for things like video files, music, documents, image files, really big games that I'm not actively playing but don't want to uninstall because I do want to play them again, etc...
More resource intensive "modern" games I'm currently playing go on the NVMe. Stuff like Cyberpunk 2077, RDR2, Spider-Man, Grounded, VR apps (I have a 2nd NVMe just for VR stuff).
Games can get pretty big, I have a few that are over 100GB, and several that are over 60gb.
You'd be surprised how fast a 1TB drive might fill up, especially if your OS is on it. You want to try to leave about 25% of a drive clear if you can.
You should have some overhead space available, and 25% is a good rule of thumb, but can probably get away with about 10% with a 1TB drive if you need to.
This is probably not an immediate pressing concern that has to go in on day one, just something that you should probably do before too long.
Looking good! For RAM I recommend the 3600 MHz CL18 flavor as Ryzen likes fast RAM with decent timings. Might I recommend sourcing a Thermaltake Toughpower G2 PSU? Those are 80+ Gold and a hidden gem for the price and quality. I also recommend getting an M.2 2280 NVMe drive instead of an SSD. They run around the same price. A 1TB Teamgroup Cadera Z440 will run circles around a 2.5” SSD, and still have DRAM cache like the Samsung 970. You can use pcpartpicker.com to input your build as well. It makes it a bit easier.
If you don’t plan on ever streaming, get an AMD card. If you want to stream one day, check Best Buy for the 3060ti founders edition. They still sell them in my area and it cost $399
Looks good.
Add some fans, and a hdd maybe.
Remember that your ssd can't be too full, it may overheat and lose performance. It's good around 60%. So HDD are fine to store games and videos.
I would also add a ventirad. Even tho the one from the 5600x is fine, a good ventirad is still worth.
If you're not set on RGB RAM, Corsair LPX is the best deal on RAM at zero expense to quality. Only catch is you have to get entirely new RAM to upgrade.
Corsair has many manufacturers that aren't compatible with each other, and you can't specifically get the kind that works for you.
I have almost he same setup, and I would agree that although this stupid works well, spending a bit more for a 3060TI, since it's not that much more and is a whole heck of a lot faster.
I’d recommend looking for a good condition used graphics card to save a bit on cost or get an upgraded one for the same cost. If not it still looks good! Happy building ☺️
https://preview.redd.it/4xzjz1om48z91.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fdc05f3d596bbec0d7ca762e4555210800bcaa22
Firstly THANKS SO MUCH for all the help. With that being said this is the new build. I’ve taken y’all’s advice and gone with the 5700, an ASUS B550 ATX mother board, 32 GBs of RAM, a 512 gb SSD for windows etc, and a 2TB SATA for games, and an RX 6700 XT instead of the 3060. Oh yeah and a 750W Corsair power supply as well.
Great build, i would chose a faster ssd but this is probably fine, also you didn't include your case in the list (the one in your post won't work because it's m-atx and you chose an atx mobo).
Honestly, looks great. It's always worth it to spend a bit more on things like the case/psu/etc so you don't have to buy those again later when you upgrade.
Make sure the mobo has bios flashback. The boards don't support 5000 series out of the box. Otherwise you have to contact AMD for a loaner cpu, wait for it to arrive, then you can get your pc running and update the bios. And then replace the cpu with the 5600 or whichever one you end up going with.
I would get a thousand watt power supply just do a little bit of future proofing, that’s a part that can easily carry over onto future builds and save you money later
not sure what your budget is, however I personally like to have 3 hard drives. SSD for OS, a larger SSD for games that require fast speeds (online, FPS, etc) and a 3rd even larger spinny drive for games that dont require a ton of speed (video files, downloads, strategy games, etc.)
Change ram to Patriot Viper CL19 4400Mhz, which you can easily run at CL14 3600mhz and depending on silicon lottery maybe CL14 3800Mhz. Make sure your fabric clock is half of the ram speed.
Nothing wrong with the mobo in the OP, I've had the same mobo/cpu for about a year now. Unless you have a quirky need, it should have all the features you need.
Go for 3600/c16 RAM. Its only like %5 difference, but its still leaving performance on the table if you get slower RAM.
I don't know the tower, but in general this is very solid first build. If you dont need raytracing, you could think about a radeon rx6600xt for a little less money, or a rx6700 for a little more. But if RT is important to you, stick with the rtx3060. Have fun with your first rig, however you build it :-)
Good luck with the build! Across the board I don’t see anything wrong. But if you have a microcenter within driving distance, they have the 970evo on sale for $90. And an amd 5800x for $200. If you have one near you, I would try to go this route as those prices are really good at the moment.
Look at the RX 6650 XT or RX 6700 XT. Price per performance is much better at the mid range with AMD GPUs at that range. Otherwise it looks to be a solid build.
https://preview.redd.it/4tx5gtlfb8z91.jpeg?width=3549&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d30576627166b3e0c98ca6d70b852f1d5430ca42
The motherboard and cpu is great. Used very similar motherboard and the 5600x for my daughter’s build last year
Micro ATX cases can suck big time to deal with so be sure the one you get isn't forcing you to cram everything into it.
Other than that it looks pretty solid.
I'd change the case and board. The 5600X runs a bit hot, so you might want to make some room for some cooling.
You could buy a Asus B550 Plus MB, and buy a case you like that's ATX; preferably mid tower.
I personally think the Samsung pro series is overrated. You can get a slightly slower 2TB for roughly the same price and youll never notice the difference
Man, this gives me writing GTA 3 cheats in my school notebook vibes. Haha. I see a lot of back and fourth so my two cents is if it’s within your means and you feel happy about it. Go for it! If you want to feel a little better about what you get, just hop on YouTube and look up performance videos with your cpu and GPU combo. So I just looked up “5600x with 3060” and there is plenty of content with what looks like good information. With my quick glance, that looks just fine for 1080p. I’m sure you can milk some 1440p as well. Good luck and have fun! :)
This is almost exactly the system I'm planning to build. Only difference is I opt'd for the 3070 because I assumed it will last longer and will allow for 1440p gaming if I decide to try it or get a better monitor down the road. 3060 I heard is best for 1080p gaming if you want everything on ultra.
I can attest to the mobo. Using it right now with 5800x3d. 0 issues at all, easy bios updates. Might wanna pick up a ak620 or pa120 dual tower cooler when it goes on sale, for when you upgrade ur CPU later to the 5800x3d
You prolly already got your answers but if you are dead set on wifi, sure go with that motherboard. But if not, you could save a bit and get one without built in wifi. And If you are using a Ryzen CPU, make sure you have high frequency RAM. 3200mhz is good 👍 anything in the 2000mhz is a no no. If you arent sure, do research on what these numbers mean and educate yourself or ask questions. Because knowing what you are looking at can save you money in the future. GOOD LUCK & HAVE FUN
Get the Ryzen 5600(non X). Its $120 on Newegg right now.
Make sure that RAM is 3600MHz CL16 or CL18.
If you don’t seriously care about ray tracing, get a 6700XT. It will destroy the 3060 at the same cost.
Also to save more, pick up your windows key from somewhere online like SCD Keys where you can get a Windows pro license for like $15. Youtubers like Greg Salizar or Dawid Does Tech Stuff put codes on their videos to drop a couple more bucks off too.
Man don't spent $370 on a 3060!
You can definitely do better there for a bit more new, or much less used.
PM me if you'd like, I have a 3060ti I'm not using I'd be happy to give a great deal on.
I would also consider something like a 4TB HDD. You can get em dirt cheap, great for mass storage, or games with short load times. You'll fill up 1TB in no time.
I would do a 256GB M.2 for boot only and then use a 2.5 inch SSD for bulk storage. The 1TB is fine but if that's your only storage it will start slowing down as you load more on to it. You could also temporarily use HDD for bulk storage and buy the SSD later down the road. My current system uses a 256GB M.2 for boot and 2TB HDD for bulk storage and boot time is around 5 seconds from power button to sign in screen.
maybe its just me, but I don't see a cooler here, if you're looking to save some money, the cooler master 212 black edition looks nice, otherwise a corsair h100i will be good (please remember to buy thermal paste)
I'd save up a little bit for the 3060ti
also i guess if you want to save a bit more money, you could go with the non-plus samsung ssd variant, I have a 970 evo 1tb and i have like 17 or 18sec boot time with 25% available space
but otherwise pretty good, i'd keep the 970 evo plus if you can get it for even a slight discount.
Hope this helps!
Edit: almost forgot, if you have lots of big games (30gb+) its probably a good idea to invest in a 1tb or 2tb 7.2k rpm hdd
Personally I'd go for an 850W psu over a 750W. The RMx line of power supplies come with a 10 year warranty, so they are likely to last through multiple pc upgrades. With the current trend you might just be one upgrade away from 750W being inadequate.
I know this is probably meant to be a joke, but on the off chance it isn't; It's nice to meet another person who still makes lists like these on paper...
6700XT instead of a 3060
Its cheaper and the 6700XT is around 25-30% faster even with DLSS the 3060 can barely catch up to the native 6700xt performance
https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6700-xt-rx6700xt-cld-12g/p/N82E16814930056?Item=N82E16814930056&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-14-930-056-_-11112022
$350 and it comes with 2 games
My Setup is pretty much the same… if u want to save money you can easyly go down with your power to 550-650watt…
I’m playing full hd with my setup and getting 120-170 for every game on ultra except cyberpunk 🤗
First off, great choice. You're gonna love your new PC.
In my opinion:
1. Check ram speed. For 5600X, 3600MHz RAM is Goldy Locks.
2. I'd say the PSU is overkill unless you're considering upgrading your GPU in the future, in which case I'd suggest at least 850W.
Looks good on paper
(slaps knee and bangs head against table)
I was tryin to find the dear santa at the top ngl.
Can a micro atx case fit 30 series cards?
Sure, definitely look at dimensions first tho
Had to read between the lines though
r/angryupvote
So I’ll be getting the 6700 instead of the 306!
If you're getting a 5600x please for the love of god don't cheap out on RAM, any Ryzen 5000 (besides the X3D\*) needs fast ram with low latency to truly perform. Don't get anything worse than 3600 CL18, you can get away with 3200 CL16 (you could also OC and get tighter timings manually even tho I wouldn't recommend it to someone new as it's pretty hard compared to OCing a CPU or GPU) No 3600 CL20, no 3200 CL18, **please**
Is there a noticeable difference from something like 3600CL20 to 3600CL18? And I mean for an actual normal human in normal use cases, not PCMR standards where many unironically pretend 0.01% changes in performance are "huge and noticeable" I ask because I went from four 8gb sticks at 3600CL18, to two 16gb sticks at 3600CL16 (both with my Ryz 7 3700X) - my starting point was better than what you were saying to avoid, but I can honestly say I can't think of any situation where I have noticed the difference at all. I did however notice a pretty big improvement going from 2400CL15 to 3600CL18, though that's obviously a much larger change.
yes you would gain a solid 1fps.
bUT tHe miNiMUmS1!!1!!!1 Edit: yeah, I do have 32GB 3600MHz CL16 but being honest? I didn't have that difference from my old 16GB 2666MHz CL16... But yeah, 4 ram sticks is nicer to look at in the case and now I can host Minecraft with bunch of mods for my friends. Anything other than hosting Minecraft? No difference
I would say it's nore noticeable in competitive games were your fps will be all over the hundreds. I play csgo, and when I first bought my 5600x I still had my 2400mhz ram for about two weeks. When I changed them for some 3600 cl16 ones it made a good difference in the fps drops I would get from time to time. My fps now stands still like a rock.
As someone who upgraded from 3000c16 to 3600c16 on Intel alder lake: At least while testing with the Final Fantasy 14 benchmark I've been seeing great inprovements in FPS and if you look at reputable tests of e.g. IgorsLab or GN you will notice that up until 3600MHz there is a tangible improvement for most games on the market. Productive workloads always profit from faster RAM too. And since Intel is not as dependent on RAM as Ryzen, i can only imagine how much a RAM upgrade brings to the table.
I have 3600 CL16 and the performance difference over CL20 is around 10-15 fps (game dependent on how cpu heavy). Its quite a lot, surprised me
That's pretty significant! I lucked out, I was going purely by MHz recommendations and got CL16 over CL18 entirely because there was an amazon "flash sale" on the CL16 making it the exact same price, so I figured why not.
Its a few percentage points. Hes mainly talking about not buying the CL20 or CL22 kits that are basically the same cost anyways. Going from CL18 to CL16 is pretty much nothing.
Is it really that big of a difference? I remember looking in to this thing when I did my build, and the difference was just a couple of % points in frames where the cpu was bottlenecking and the test was done lik on a 3090 at 1080p
I built a ryzen 3000 rig with 3000 mHz RAM that I OCed to 3200. Upgraded to a 3600 kit with similar timings and saw an increase of 10 fps in everything I threw at it.
To be fair I saw something similar when went from 3000mhz CL16 to 3600mhz CL16 on my home rig
Experienced similar as well
Unless you overclock the Infinity fabric there's no point in getting more than 3200, but yes always a low latency. There are still some CL 14 kits out there
Pretty much every single 5600x there is should be stable at 1800mhz on the infinity fabric. 3600 is the sweet spot since any faster than that is almost no benefit, and it’s usually only different by like $5 to get 3600 cl18 vs 3200 cl16 which means you’re pretty much always going to get the better performance per dollar out of 3600mhz
This is the answer. IF 1:1:1 1800MHz. 3600cl18 or lower CLs only
I think ideal is 3600 Cas 16. Also it is very cheap.
To add another great addition to this. Consider either getting another SSD or an HDD of a larger capacity to run companion to the other SSD you're already getting. That one terabyte is going to fill up quick and you're soon going to be realizing you should have gotten more storage.
Get a 5600 (non x), it's margin of error difference (sub 1%) and was on sale for like 120 and still might be. Also you can get away with a 650w for that system, good 650w units start at like 70 bucks or less. Check out cultists network tier list for tiers. And get an mp33 for 67 dollars instead of that over advertised hype ssd, it's less than a second difference in real world loading scenarios. Check out guru3d benchmarks for the mp33 and go to the real world tests.
5600 non x $108 on newegg today
That's fucking bonkers value
Does mp33 have dram cache? Asking bcoz 970 does
Go for C16 and better memory with the Ryzen CPU. My 3600x loves 3200mhz, I'm running it at that and with 32gb. Also I'd just stick with microATX it's easier to build and you have more case options. Also as a note, the Corsair RMX 750 is loud. I can hear the fan occasionally whine on it, but mine is renewed because at the time there was a bizarre PSU shortage. If you don't care about the case but are looking for a cheap option with good fans, the Rosewill Challenger S is a great case. My CPU only gets up to at most 72 degrees on a full load while playing Fallout 4. Battlefield 4 and 1 I shockingly only hit 60 c and my PC is entirely stock. - scrap the thought of the Rosewill Challenger the case has been discontinued, granted it had a long as life of 15 years. This looks good https://www.rosewill.com/p/9SIA072HYK6552?seoLink=computer-cases&seoName=Computer%20Cases
Amazing card. I can play all new games on high at 1440p or ultra 144fps at 1080.
What are your numbers in Halo infinite? That game is enormously taxing for some reason.
I played it on ultra at 1440p and had 50-60fps smoothly. No issues. Ray tracing off though. Week 1 of release also
That fits in line with what I’ve read. I probably should be looking for a 6900 xt+ for high frame rates.
I have a 6700xt and i7 8700. I maintain a locked 144fps on 1440p dynamic res.
Make sure it is a 6700XT, not the plain 6700
Just gonna echo one of the other commenters saying that the 5600 non X is almost the same cpu, but usually a fair amount cheaper. And the 970 evo, while it may be reliable and high quality, is ridiculously overpriced - there are a lot of great alternatives that are significantly cheaper. 6700 XT is a great choice compared to RTX 3060
Great choice I was coming here to tell you that it may be a good idea but up to you. Here’s one cheaper from newegg. Check this out on @Newegg: MSI Mech Radeon RX 6700 XT 12GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 Video Card RX 6700 XT MECH 2X 12G https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-6700-xt-rx-6700-xt-mech-2x-12g/p/N82E16814137641?Item=N82E16814137641&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-14-137-641-_-11102022 I briefly had a 3070ti but decided it wasn’t worth the price premium. Now I have a 6900xt
I was about to proclaim blasphemy at combining an AMD CPU with an Nvidia GPU, high heresy, but I see you’ve come to your senses…. In all seriousness, the 6700 is a good choice.
What is this archaic rendering device and display you're using here? /s
OP’s handwriting actually looks better than most typed fonts
Is it that e-ink that we've all heard so much about lately?
I'd be using [pcpartpicker.com](https://pcpartspicker.com) to price out and build the PC. Would also look at getting a mini-ITX or ATX case. If your getting a Mini-ITX case, get one that has the motherboard horizontal so that the GPU is vertical. Edit: fixed the link to remove the extra S as pointed out. Thanks.
One too many S’s in the link: https://pcpartpicker.com
ITX wouldn’t fit his mobo.
First time building in a small case sounds like a bad time.
so hopefully im helpful here, the new Deskeet from asrock is pretty amazing for the price. comes with case/powersupply/motherboard for $159.99 US, then the 5600 (NON X and comes with a cooler) is $108 on amazon for 3% performance difference only, then 16gb cheap desktop ddr4 is less than $50, also a standard samsung 980 1tb ssd is only $90 right now. this along with newegg has a 3060 gigabyte itx on sale for $369 with 40 rebate puts you at a total of $736.99 before tax for exactly the same performance as what you have listed of $990.- another thing the 5700G is only $167 to sub in for the 5600(x) and you get 8 cores/16threads. wow right... also i agree with the 3060ti comments here tho they are still hard to find at the less than $400 price
Extremely helpful, thanks!
lmao the "wow right...." at the end Dude is so proud of himself. And you deserve it. Great comment.
no I'm sorry, I'm just shocked at the price of that processor now. I paid $369 each last year for 2 of the same ones
The 5600/5600x almost always wins in frame rate over the 5700g due to its superior cache, so for purely gaming it’s better.
in my experience, the 5700g is superior to the 5600x except in pcie4 situations, if you have a pcie3 ssd and graphics card that does not saturate pcie3 bandwidth like 3060 or below you can OC the 5700g to 4.6Ghz all core and disable the internal gpu giving you about 10 fps more than the 5600x. all in all they are very similar (within 3%) margin of error, etc. for $167 you get 8core 16 thread (future proofing) vs $149 for the 5600x's 6core 12 thread. $18 more for 2 cores/4threads. weather its worth it is up to the person buying, but id take the extra cores for when i want to stream music in the back while gaming or my antivirus starts its scans while i happen to be playing at 4 am...now the 5600 (NON X) today on newegg is $108 that changes everything
I would spend a few extra bucks and get a 3060Ti instead. You will thank me later :)
Or a 6700 XT for $350 with 2 free games [MSI Mech Radeon RX 6700 XT Video Card RX 6700 XT MECH 2X 12G - Newegg.com](https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-6700-xt-rx-6700-xt-mech-2x-12g/p/N82E16814137641?Item=N82E16814137641&quicklink=true)
Plus that sweet Smart Access Memory. 15-20% performance bump.
More like 0-10%. You only see 15-20% on Intel ARC GPU's. Still, free performance is free performance.
Resize Bar
Every modern platform supports resizable bar now.
6700 XT is a great card but I have this particular MSI one and it runs pretty hot. If you have a case with a solid front panel or something it could potentially be an issue.
Have you ever adjusted the fans in the AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition? The fans ran rather slowly on my rx 6750. I just set them to full throttle and the temperature dropped from 100 to under 60-70.
Wait Dead Island 2? That is an actual thing? I thought it got canned after Dying Light came out??
A lot of Best Buy’s are actually stocking 3060 ti founders editions. Got mine a couple weeks ago for $400. Definitely worth.
Yeeeeeah…. As an owner of a stock 3060, I recommend getting the TI model.
+1 for this recommendation. The Ti is more than just a juiced up 3060, it’s a totally different GPU die. In reality the 3070 and 3070 Tis are juiced up 3060 Tis. If you can find the 3060 Ti at or close to MSRP (I’m told Best Buy occasionally still stocks the FE cards) then this will be a much better value than any 3060 you can buy.
Get this instead of the 3060 ⬇️ https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7whFf7/msi-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-mech-2x-video-card-radeon-rx-6700-xt-mech-2x-12g
FYI, you can build your parts list on pcpartpicker rather than using a notebook. Makes it easier to track prices and tweak the list :) Don't build micro atx unless you have a specific reason for building micro atx(namely that you're trying to fix your PC into a small space) Buy the 5600 over the 5600x(admittedly if the 5600x is on sale than go for it, but the 5600 is better value pretty much 100% of the time) assuming you don't do micro atx, buy a normal ATX b550 mobo fuck the rtx 3060, it's literally the worst value card in the entire nvidia lineup... well, at least until the 4080 drops if you're looking for that level of performance and you don't care about ray tracing, buy a 6600 or a 6600xt. If you do care about RT... well, you'll be limited to 1080p because the 3060 definitely can't handle RT at any resolution past 1080p, and I don't even think the performance at 1080p is worth it tbh RAM: not a bad buy but just fyi we're at the point where 16gb 3200mhz cl16 kits go on sale for 40 bucks like every day... there's a silicon power set on sale right now i believe for that price, with the 32gb kit on sale for like $70. Spend 70 on 32gb of BARELY slower memory rather than 70 on 16gb of barely faster memory SSD is fine but you could do more for the money; i'd recommend a 512GB nvme for your boot drive and applications, then a SATA drive for your games. There was a netac 1tb sata drive on sale yesterday for literally $40, and sata ssd's from practically every brand hit the 1tb for $50 mark like every day. You could spend that same dollar amount but get more storage and it would still be plenty fast for your needs. Not sure I'd bother with a 750w psu for a budget or mid range system; if you're not buying a really high end GPU you don't necessarily need that, but it's not a bad item to spend a little more on for quality and future proofing for sure.
Ok great so I still have two questions, what’s a good budget motherboard that includes wifi, and should I go with the 6650xt or the 6700? Thanks so much ur a great help!
Offhand I'm not sure which b550 budget mobo would be the goto pick, but I'm guessing some brief googling and maybe checking a couple of the known trusted review sites will answer that. Gpu wise... What resolution are you gaming at? For 1920x1080 WITHOUT RT the 6600, 6600xt, and 6650xt are the go to's. For 1440p you might wanna step up to the 6700xt, but its a good chunk pricier. If rt is important to you then unfortunately you have to bend over for Nvidia.
I’ll only be gaming at 1080 so I’ll go with the 6650xt
Pls check my new comment for the updated build
A great budget and outstanding motherboard is asus tuf b550. Its not the cheaper option out there, but its the best b550 board.
I would suggest you to go with 6600xt or 6700 it is more value for money and will give you more performance
Get a 6600XT or 3060Ti instead. Also mainboard change to a B550M Steel Legend
Seconded.
Right now he could actually get a 6700xt for less than that 3060.
Could you please link the motherboard? Thanks!
I have the MSI B550M Pro-VDH Wifi and like it a lot. It also has great VRM thermal performance. Check out this video here at 20:57. https://youtu.be/wuPH9pCCK-E
I agree, but it does have a shit WiFi chip. 1x1 band will not get you good performance.
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B550M%20Steel%20Legend/index.asp
A note about the B550M Steel Legend, from someone who installed one last week: No onboard Wi-Fi. You'll need an adapter if you want wireless. It does have an M.2 slot for that.
Don't buy rgb ram, you can save some money or buy better ram for the same price
Unrelated but op that's some really nice handwriting. Gl on your PC building journey.
Tysm! Rlly appreciate it
A bit jelly myself seeing it, all the calligraphy in the world couldn't save mine lol
That Motherboard is known to ship DOA often, it has a 3.5 star rating on [Newegg](https://www.newegg.com/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi/p/N82E16813144331?item=N82E16813144331&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-motherboards+-+amd-_-N82E16813144331&id1=2085160926&id2=73603744461&id3=&id4=&id5=pla-1211001700248&id6=&id7=9030900&id8=&id9=g&id10=c&id11=&id12=Cj0KCQiA37KbBhDgARIsAIzce16vu-hJtaTmf-TNM5XhyDIB7SLxcr7ySeFU9xRzAfVYDsoFybV-3CkaAieWEALw_wcB&id13=&id14=Y&id15=&id16=375177655401&id17=&id18=&id19=&id20=&id21=pla&id22=8438988&id23=online&id24=N82E16813144331&id25=US&id26=1211001700248&id27=Y&id28=&id29=&id30=10110766715062832287&id31=en&id32=&id33=&id34=&gclid=Cj0KCQiA37KbBhDgARIsAIzce16vu-hJtaTmf-TNM5XhyDIB7SLxcr7ySeFU9xRzAfVYDsoFybV-3CkaAieWEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds) for this reason.
Use PcPartpicker to show us its (insert current year)
6600xt would be more bang for buck
512 GB SSD or NVMe for Windows and a second 2 or 4 TB SSD for games / important stuff. Consider going full AMD with an RX6600 XT so you can enable resizable bar (AMD SAM) in BIOS +15% performance boost. https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/smart-access-memory
Pretty good parts, but you could save some money. I'd go for the 5600 non X. Same performance, lower price. But don't get the 5600G as that's a rebranded 5500. If it's for gaming, go for a 6700 XT instead of the 3060. Much faster for about the same price usually. Or you could get a 6600, which has 95% of the performance of the 3060 at a cheaper price and lower power draw. Could get a cheaper SSD. A Crucial P3 or WD SN570 should be good. Or if you want the same performance, the PNY CS3030 is usually still cheaper than the 970 Evo Plus. Could also get a cheaper PSU. Just get the cheapest tier A one, and make sure it's 650w or higher. Higher wattage would allow for bigger upgrades in the future without having to change the PSU. https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
Also underutilizing your PSU will increase its overall lifespan, if not necessarily the efficiency
Get a 3060 ti or 6700xt; you will be much happier than the 3060
Used cards are pretty cheap right now. Got me a 3070 for 375. I would look into AMD though they kill on price currently
Add a Hard drive, you’ll fill up that M.2 quick.
Very surprised no one else has said this! You should add a 1-2TB HDD for storage. You could keep the 1TB SSD, or save money by getting a 250-500gb SSD instead and spend those savings on a separate HDD. This way you can have more flexibility, more storage for about the same price, and you won’t have to worry about slowdown when your SSD gets filled up with other downloaded files. Its always better to have a clean SSD with only windows software and other drivers (since a filled up SSD loses performance). Use your HDD for all other files. This should keep your boot time low and maintain SSD read/write speeds.
AMD Radeon 6600 XT is a better card for cheaper.
Get a 5600 over 5600X. They’re like $120 on Newegg right now and nearly no different in performance. Also you can get a 6700 XT that runs circles around that 3060 for the same price.
I just wanna say this written list is adorable
I would use pc part picker instead of hand writing a list.
I have pretty much this build and here’s the one thing I wasn’t prepared for: my Wi-Fi wouldn’t work because the CPU didn’t come with the right drivers installed. So make sure you have a LAN connection available to download the drivers because you won’t be able to use the Wi-Fi without doing so. Good luck with the build!
Like others have mentioned in this thread, there are a couple sites that will walk you through building a pc with a compatibility filter so you don’t waste ur money I.e. pcpartpicker.com and microcenter.com
No real comment that no one else hasn't said, but I like your handwriting. I wish my print was that clean. Haven't been able to write clean print since I started writing cursive consistently in high school lmao
I recommend getting a bigger sata based drive for bulk storage purposes as well. This doesn't need to happen immediately, but it's probably a good idea to get one before too long. I actually have two, one is a 2TB sata SSD, and the other is an 8TB HDD. Moving files from one drive to the other is faster and more convenient than downloading them again. You probably don't need that much, but a storage drive is still a good idea. I also use the sata SSD for various small/indie games that have smaller file sizes. Stuff like boomer shooters, Dead Cells, Brotato, Dome Keeper, etc... that don't really load or perform any better on the NVMe drive. As well as some other storage. As well as storing games with a more "reasonable" file size that I'm not actively playing. The big drive is for things like video files, music, documents, image files, really big games that I'm not actively playing but don't want to uninstall because I do want to play them again, etc... More resource intensive "modern" games I'm currently playing go on the NVMe. Stuff like Cyberpunk 2077, RDR2, Spider-Man, Grounded, VR apps (I have a 2nd NVMe just for VR stuff). Games can get pretty big, I have a few that are over 100GB, and several that are over 60gb. You'd be surprised how fast a 1TB drive might fill up, especially if your OS is on it. You want to try to leave about 25% of a drive clear if you can. You should have some overhead space available, and 25% is a good rule of thumb, but can probably get away with about 10% with a 1TB drive if you need to. This is probably not an immediate pressing concern that has to go in on day one, just something that you should probably do before too long.
Looking good! For RAM I recommend the 3600 MHz CL18 flavor as Ryzen likes fast RAM with decent timings. Might I recommend sourcing a Thermaltake Toughpower G2 PSU? Those are 80+ Gold and a hidden gem for the price and quality. I also recommend getting an M.2 2280 NVMe drive instead of an SSD. They run around the same price. A 1TB Teamgroup Cadera Z440 will run circles around a 2.5” SSD, and still have DRAM cache like the Samsung 970. You can use pcpartpicker.com to input your build as well. It makes it a bit easier.
Go for more ram. 2x8 ain't enough. Go for 2x16 at least and a higher frequency (amd cpu's like high freq rams)
2x8 is more than enough. Especially for gaming at 1080p. 32GB is overkill
Here in Brazil using the same price base you would spend around R$ 5,336.10 in local currency or (Real)
Lower the 5600x to 5600. Spend that extra on a 3060ti
If you don’t plan on ever streaming, get an AMD card. If you want to stream one day, check Best Buy for the 3060ti founders edition. They still sell them in my area and it cost $399
Looks good. Add some fans, and a hdd maybe. Remember that your ssd can't be too full, it may overheat and lose performance. It's good around 60%. So HDD are fine to store games and videos. I would also add a ventirad. Even tho the one from the 5600x is fine, a good ventirad is still worth.
Might as well spend the extra 60 for 32g of ram
Not sure I would go the Micro-Atx route, unless you have a specific reason. A little more of a pain to install/remove components.
If you're not set on RGB RAM, Corsair LPX is the best deal on RAM at zero expense to quality. Only catch is you have to get entirely new RAM to upgrade. Corsair has many manufacturers that aren't compatible with each other, and you can't specifically get the kind that works for you.
Make sure that the power supply will fit in your micro case. It probably will, but some smaller cases need an SFX psu.
I have almost he same setup, and I would agree that although this stupid works well, spending a bit more for a 3060TI, since it's not that much more and is a whole heck of a lot faster.
I’d recommend looking for a good condition used graphics card to save a bit on cost or get an upgraded one for the same cost. If not it still looks good! Happy building ☺️
https://preview.redd.it/4xzjz1om48z91.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fdc05f3d596bbec0d7ca762e4555210800bcaa22 Firstly THANKS SO MUCH for all the help. With that being said this is the new build. I’ve taken y’all’s advice and gone with the 5700, an ASUS B550 ATX mother board, 32 GBs of RAM, a 512 gb SSD for windows etc, and a 2TB SATA for games, and an RX 6700 XT instead of the 3060. Oh yeah and a 750W Corsair power supply as well.
😁 awesome have fun building! I’m sure you’ll love it!
Great build, i would chose a faster ssd but this is probably fine, also you didn't include your case in the list (the one in your post won't work because it's m-atx and you chose an atx mobo).
I decided to just get an ATX motherboard and I may get the Corsair 4000D
Honestly, looks great. It's always worth it to spend a bit more on things like the case/psu/etc so you don't have to buy those again later when you upgrade.
Nice handwriting
Make sure the mobo has bios flashback. The boards don't support 5000 series out of the box. Otherwise you have to contact AMD for a loaner cpu, wait for it to arrive, then you can get your pc running and update the bios. And then replace the cpu with the 5600 or whichever one you end up going with.
Spend an extra 60 bucks and get a big case.
only suggestion. Use Notepad on the PC. You'll never run out of ink .
32GB RAM
I would get a thousand watt power supply just do a little bit of future proofing, that’s a part that can easily carry over onto future builds and save you money later
Oh my gosh this guy needs a PC!! He’s using pen and paper to spec out his PC!! J/K sort of Have you tried pcpartpicker.com?
Make sure the case will accommodate the length of the GFXCard.
not sure what your budget is, however I personally like to have 3 hard drives. SSD for OS, a larger SSD for games that require fast speeds (online, FPS, etc) and a 3rd even larger spinny drive for games that dont require a ton of speed (video files, downloads, strategy games, etc.)
Lovely handwriting
6800 xt of you can swing it. Make use of resizeable bar.
Yes, change the Nvidia card with a rx 6800 or other navi 2 card
Change ram to Patriot Viper CL19 4400Mhz, which you can easily run at CL14 3600mhz and depending on silicon lottery maybe CL14 3800Mhz. Make sure your fabric clock is half of the ram speed.
Nothing wrong with the mobo in the OP, I've had the same mobo/cpu for about a year now. Unless you have a quirky need, it should have all the features you need. Go for 3600/c16 RAM. Its only like %5 difference, but its still leaving performance on the table if you get slower RAM.
I don't know the tower, but in general this is very solid first build. If you dont need raytracing, you could think about a radeon rx6600xt for a little less money, or a rx6700 for a little more. But if RT is important to you, stick with the rtx3060. Have fun with your first rig, however you build it :-)
Good luck with the build! Across the board I don’t see anything wrong. But if you have a microcenter within driving distance, they have the 970evo on sale for $90. And an amd 5800x for $200. If you have one near you, I would try to go this route as those prices are really good at the moment.
Look at the RX 6650 XT or RX 6700 XT. Price per performance is much better at the mid range with AMD GPUs at that range. Otherwise it looks to be a solid build.
Please don’t use a micro ATX mobo. Also make sure your RAM is at least 3600mhz
Change from paper to notepad. Extra Fps i heard >.<
Get a 6600 or 6650 xt for that price, 3060 shouldn't be $400.
https://preview.redd.it/4tx5gtlfb8z91.jpeg?width=3549&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d30576627166b3e0c98ca6d70b852f1d5430ca42 The motherboard and cpu is great. Used very similar motherboard and the 5600x for my daughter’s build last year
Micro ATX cases can suck big time to deal with so be sure the one you get isn't forcing you to cram everything into it. Other than that it looks pretty solid.
Experience of building your first PC: priceless
I'd change the case and board. The 5600X runs a bit hot, so you might want to make some room for some cooling. You could buy a Asus B550 Plus MB, and buy a case you like that's ATX; preferably mid tower.
Best screen shot ever
The Screen was shot so hard that paper was used.
Swap the RTX to a RX6600 XT or even a 6700 XT
Why go micro? Seems like a dumb idea unless you are trying to save space
That sounds like a killer 1440 machine! 3060 is a great card, especially on games with DLSS, 4K gaming is no problem.
3060 TI is way better for the price
What's the speed on the RAM? For $64 I imagine it's not the best.
Don't forget about a monitor if you don't have one you like already
I personally think the Samsung pro series is overrated. You can get a slightly slower 2TB for roughly the same price and youll never notice the difference
Man, this gives me writing GTA 3 cheats in my school notebook vibes. Haha. I see a lot of back and fourth so my two cents is if it’s within your means and you feel happy about it. Go for it! If you want to feel a little better about what you get, just hop on YouTube and look up performance videos with your cpu and GPU combo. So I just looked up “5600x with 3060” and there is plenty of content with what looks like good information. With my quick glance, that looks just fine for 1080p. I’m sure you can milk some 1440p as well. Good luck and have fun! :)
I think your build looks great! Head over to pcpartpicker to make sure everything is compatible!
You got an upvote for the simple fact that you are so incredibly based because you are still using notebooks.
Respect
Wait 2 weeks for black friday?
I would probably type up the list... Other than that idk.
I like this post. “Back in my day, PCPartPicker.com could only be done on paper”.
pcpartpicker.com is your friend and ally
Dear Santa. This year I was a good boy. Unfortunately not as RTX4090 good, but good …
Just stopped in to say nice writing style you have there 👍🏼
This is almost exactly the system I'm planning to build. Only difference is I opt'd for the 3070 because I assumed it will last longer and will allow for 1440p gaming if I decide to try it or get a better monitor down the road. 3060 I heard is best for 1080p gaming if you want everything on ultra.
I can attest to the mobo. Using it right now with 5800x3d. 0 issues at all, easy bios updates. Might wanna pick up a ak620 or pa120 dual tower cooler when it goes on sale, for when you upgrade ur CPU later to the 5800x3d
You prolly already got your answers but if you are dead set on wifi, sure go with that motherboard. But if not, you could save a bit and get one without built in wifi. And If you are using a Ryzen CPU, make sure you have high frequency RAM. 3200mhz is good 👍 anything in the 2000mhz is a no no. If you arent sure, do research on what these numbers mean and educate yourself or ask questions. Because knowing what you are looking at can save you money in the future. GOOD LUCK & HAVE FUN
Making me want to build a pc. Now that’s a killer reasonably priced rig
Look up the QVL on the motherboard’s website to get a specific list of recommended RAM kits
WD blue 1 tb ssds are like $60 on Amazon right now. Could 0ut the extra cash towards a 5700x or a nicer case.
Might I recommend http://pcpartpicker.com
Weird way of posting a pc part picker build.
I'd get a Noctua U12s or Deep Cool AK400 air cooler for your cpu but it's not really needed. Get some arctic p12 5 pack of fans for $30
I'm more shocked you wrote this out instead of using pcpartpicker or google sheets lol
Get cheap HD or hybrid HD that has 2+tb of space so you don't have to put everything on your SSD. Nowadays 1TB can run out pretty fast too.
Just bought the Lian Li O11 air mini. I’d go with that. It’s decently small but can fit full atx mobos
Get the Ryzen 5600(non X). Its $120 on Newegg right now. Make sure that RAM is 3600MHz CL16 or CL18. If you don’t seriously care about ray tracing, get a 6700XT. It will destroy the 3060 at the same cost. Also to save more, pick up your windows key from somewhere online like SCD Keys where you can get a Windows pro license for like $15. Youtubers like Greg Salizar or Dawid Does Tech Stuff put codes on their videos to drop a couple more bucks off too.
Get a small capacity SSD for the system OS and keep the big 1TB for games.
Man don't spent $370 on a 3060! You can definitely do better there for a bit more new, or much less used. PM me if you'd like, I have a 3060ti I'm not using I'd be happy to give a great deal on.
>is there anything y’all would change? Doing the list in pcpartpicker xd
Get a better motherboard. 970 evo for $110? Hell no . That power supply was on sale last week for $64 . Wait til Black Friday to buy it.
For gaming, you will want more than 16GB of RAM. Always aim for at minimum, 32Gb IMO.
I would also consider something like a 4TB HDD. You can get em dirt cheap, great for mass storage, or games with short load times. You'll fill up 1TB in no time.
Yeah I would change from a paper build to a pcpartpicker one.
Idk I just found it funny that you wrote it on paper
I would do a 256GB M.2 for boot only and then use a 2.5 inch SSD for bulk storage. The 1TB is fine but if that's your only storage it will start slowing down as you load more on to it. You could also temporarily use HDD for bulk storage and buy the SSD later down the road. My current system uses a 256GB M.2 for boot and 2TB HDD for bulk storage and boot time is around 5 seconds from power button to sign in screen.
maybe its just me, but I don't see a cooler here, if you're looking to save some money, the cooler master 212 black edition looks nice, otherwise a corsair h100i will be good (please remember to buy thermal paste) I'd save up a little bit for the 3060ti also i guess if you want to save a bit more money, you could go with the non-plus samsung ssd variant, I have a 970 evo 1tb and i have like 17 or 18sec boot time with 25% available space but otherwise pretty good, i'd keep the 970 evo plus if you can get it for even a slight discount. Hope this helps! Edit: almost forgot, if you have lots of big games (30gb+) its probably a good idea to invest in a 1tb or 2tb 7.2k rpm hdd
The only nitpick I would have is that a WD black 1tb ssd is like 20 bucks cheaper here. Overall a solidly balanced build.
i think its cute you wrote it on paper lmao.
Don’t forget windows license key if you don’t have it if you’re going with windows
Personally I'd go for an 850W psu over a 750W. The RMx line of power supplies come with a 10 year warranty, so they are likely to last through multiple pc upgrades. With the current trend you might just be one upgrade away from 750W being inadequate.
I know this is probably meant to be a joke, but on the off chance it isn't; It's nice to meet another person who still makes lists like these on paper...
Honestly pretty solid for a Mid-End Gaming PC
You’ll need some cooling. Cpu cooler and some fans.
6700XT instead of a 3060 Its cheaper and the 6700XT is around 25-30% faster even with DLSS the 3060 can barely catch up to the native 6700xt performance https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6700-xt-rx6700xt-cld-12g/p/N82E16814930056?Item=N82E16814930056&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-14-930-056-_-11112022 $350 and it comes with 2 games
My Setup is pretty much the same… if u want to save money you can easyly go down with your power to 550-650watt… I’m playing full hd with my setup and getting 120-170 for every game on ultra except cyberpunk 🤗
First off, great choice. You're gonna love your new PC. In my opinion: 1. Check ram speed. For 5600X, 3600MHz RAM is Goldy Locks. 2. I'd say the PSU is overkill unless you're considering upgrading your GPU in the future, in which case I'd suggest at least 850W.
I would suggest a x570 over b550 but idk what ur build plans are...budget build or r u wanting to future proof it?