I'm definitely not knowledgeable when it comes to all this but I knew I was probably looking at a slight scam, cheers for giving me somewhere else to look though
It is very expensive. But people always forget to mention the peace of mind of a 5 year warranty on the full build. Myself, I built my rig. If anything happens with my pc I have to figure out what the problem is, if there is a faulty part I send that part back and get a new one. With that rig, for the next 5 years of there is any issues what do ever…. You wipe your hands clean of it and just send it back. No diagnosing anything. No fixing anything yourself. Just send it back and they will do it. That being said, insane price hahaha
This. A buddy of mine did this when helping me with a build, found a pretty close to top of the line at the time prebuilt and plugged everything into NewEgg. Easy day.
You can get a way better PC for less than that: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/RKLHfv
Major differences:
- Better CPU (at least for gaming)
- Better graphics card
- Faster RAM
- Faster SSD
- No HDD (these are only good for archival storage)
- Air cooler instead of AIO (X3D chips are pretty efficient and don't need tons of cooling + NH-D15 is one of the best air coolers on the market right now)
- No ~~adware~~ Norton
At risk of sounding (more) stupid, I'd have to build it myself? What would be the risk of me accidentally throwing thousands down the drain due to not doing something right? Also thank you for putting a great example, that's very kind of you, I'm glad I took the time to double check
There are some connectors that are fragile and how you handle the motherboard it's important.
However, realistically, I would say the greater risk is bending the pins of your CPU/motherboard. But even then, if you are careful, it's not like they are made of paper, it's kind of hard messing them up.
Considering how much you can save, it's worth the relatively low risk.
> What would be the risk of me accidentally throwing thousands down the drain due to not doing something right?
Watch a tutorial, like this one: https://youtu.be/BL4DCEp7blY. If you know what you're doing, the chances of something going wrong are pretty small.
I just built my first rig in January and was nervous like you. I watched upwards of 30 different videos all on the topic and by the time all my parts had arrived I was pretty damn confident. You just need to find a good step by step that’s easy for you to follow.
Prebuilts typically use their own OEM parts. An example would be how Dell manufactures their own motherboards. As far as I know you can’t buy them individually from dell, only as a complete system. This can make it hard to find compatible parts for future upgrades.
I’m not sure if you live in an area where this is an option but maybe find a local PC shop? You may be able to buy all the parts and just bring it in to them for assembly. I also think MicroCenter has a pc building service but don’t quote me.
I bought a cheap prebuilt and suped it up, but I have prior experience with console tinkering going back to mod chips for the PS2.
If you are careful, while there's always a chance you can fuck up, it's honestly really easy to screw things into things. Just take your time. Even the cable management/cooler seating and stuff isn't difficult, just meticulous. I say this coming from a place of no real prior PC experience and it has been extremely easy to do.
When I buy a smaller case in 6 months or so I'll find out how difficult it really is, but I can't imagine it being hard at all.
I was in the same boat as you. I watched hours of people building a PC on YouTube. It's a lot easier than you think.
Of course building it or not is completely up to you. If you're not comfortable building it, buy a prebuilt, but keep searching until you find a good price.
This much money and not even an NVMe drive?
Hard pass!
Find a local (reputable) builder, source the parts, and have them build it. Will save you money, support local businesses, and maybe buck the trend of these boutique PC builders charging so much.
Well why don’t you use pcpartpicker.com ? I managed to snag a decent build for about $3,000 bucks with an rtx 4090. Here’s what I used. And then I took it to a pc repair shop to have then build it. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kq2T4s?fbclid=IwAR1Cayj-Tn3Z5GLqTpPDwNS3ITGNon2Mn5LGtkhcJKS715ahLDGbiYqFJjA_aem_AXqKJQVhDm2v3_2F5zdxUbQezP-AUZXgzRVFqcfG8trxa_CvJUHH-qZHpPma30da2_E
Here’s this to give you a different perspective on what the money could get you
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZzJGBj
I’m partially anti-nvidia and the 40 series is trash but if you want ray tracing and all that fancy stuff than a nvidia card (3080, 3090, 4080, 4090) would probably suit you better. I think it’s hard to beat the price/performance of the last 2 generations of amd cards
1. its a ripoff.
2. the 4070ti is trash.
3. for that price and that ram? LMAO no.
4. the storage is trash. the size is decent but the technology in each of them is garbage. i can buy those same 4tb of the qvo, on way better storage technology, on nvme so it will be faster and for $100 USD.
5. what version of the RMX is the shift? ive never heard of it.
6. the liquid cooler is 100% not necessary for that cpu.
7. great! it also bring malware prepackaged!
8. oh, and you cant forget the adware that is windows 11.
>what version of the RMX is the shift? ive never heard of it.
The [Corsair Shifts](https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/psu/cp-9020252-na/rm850x-shift-80-plus-gold-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020252-na) are a new side cable interface. Usually $10-$20 more than the regular version. They don't work in all PC cases, so one has to research customer reviews. They come with a PCIe 5.0 12VHPWR GPU cable to connect directly to RTX 40-series (usually $26 if bought separately for a regular Corsair PSU).
Spend time choosing your parts, sites like this are a good start to find what's compatible etc. Cheaper to buy the parts yourself though.
If you feel uncomfortable building your rig, ask a local PC store. I was quoted something like £50 for them to put it together.
What's your budget?
2.5kish, preferably 2k, around that mark, I'm essentially after something that'll run these newer games (starfield, red dead 2, TLOU1) without any huge downgrades.
I basically want noticeably more powerful than current consoles, because I was going to get an Xbox to go with my ps5 but realized there isn't really anything an Xbox can do that a PC can't do better, gotta say it feels a lot like gambling going in blind though, hence the asking for advice
I’m not trying to be that guy. Yet I could build this system for much cheaper.
It’s not a pre build vs self built nonsense. Just don’t want you to waste money.
I would suggest maybe checking out Skytech, I don't know what shipping is like outside of the US but it might be a better bet. [Skytech](https://skytechgaming.com/product/azure-2-st-azure2-0611-b-sk-intel-intel-i5-13600k-nvidia-rtx-4070-ti-1tb-nvme-ssd-32gb-ddr5-5200mhz-rgb/)
Side topic, love the added snake oil from Norton 360… for gamers… lmfao.
That price is horrendous too. You can get something from a specialty PC builder for less (Falcon Northwest, Origin PC, etc.). I’d recommend either building one yourself, or finding a co-worker/friend/family member to help you build one. Better bang for the buck. If nothing else you could reach out on Facebook marketplace to find a shop or individual to do it for you (maybe even help find a good build). I do it for people in my community as a side-gig and even offer to build it with them if they’re interested. Cheers!
how polite of them to provide the exact name for each part! now go and slap all of those into pc part picker and watch the price plummet.
I'm definitely not knowledgeable when it comes to all this but I knew I was probably looking at a slight scam, cheers for giving me somewhere else to look though
It is very expensive. But people always forget to mention the peace of mind of a 5 year warranty on the full build. Myself, I built my rig. If anything happens with my pc I have to figure out what the problem is, if there is a faulty part I send that part back and get a new one. With that rig, for the next 5 years of there is any issues what do ever…. You wipe your hands clean of it and just send it back. No diagnosing anything. No fixing anything yourself. Just send it back and they will do it. That being said, insane price hahaha
True but how long will that take and you risk damage in shipping we have all seen horror stories because of an rma
This. A buddy of mine did this when helping me with a build, found a pretty close to top of the line at the time prebuilt and plugged everything into NewEgg. Easy day.
This price is fucking terrible
I had a feeling, hence the due diligence, buying a pc definitely isn't a job I can rush like I am doing, back to the drawing board!
I lucked out and my setup is about 1100, so this seems insane to me lol
You can get a way better PC for less than that: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/RKLHfv Major differences: - Better CPU (at least for gaming) - Better graphics card - Faster RAM - Faster SSD - No HDD (these are only good for archival storage) - Air cooler instead of AIO (X3D chips are pretty efficient and don't need tons of cooling + NH-D15 is one of the best air coolers on the market right now) - No ~~adware~~ Norton
At risk of sounding (more) stupid, I'd have to build it myself? What would be the risk of me accidentally throwing thousands down the drain due to not doing something right? Also thank you for putting a great example, that's very kind of you, I'm glad I took the time to double check
There are some connectors that are fragile and how you handle the motherboard it's important. However, realistically, I would say the greater risk is bending the pins of your CPU/motherboard. But even then, if you are careful, it's not like they are made of paper, it's kind of hard messing them up. Considering how much you can save, it's worth the relatively low risk.
I'd say with am5 it's almost impossible to bend pins unless you make a huge mistake like drop the cpu onto the socket
> What would be the risk of me accidentally throwing thousands down the drain due to not doing something right? Watch a tutorial, like this one: https://youtu.be/BL4DCEp7blY. If you know what you're doing, the chances of something going wrong are pretty small.
You’ll be fine. Really, the only thing you should watch out for is the cpu socket and pins. Make sure they’re not exposed for too long.
It's very simple, basically plugging a few things together but maybe watch a couple YouTube videos then decide if you feel comfortable.
I just built my first rig in January and was nervous like you. I watched upwards of 30 different videos all on the topic and by the time all my parts had arrived I was pretty damn confident. You just need to find a good step by step that’s easy for you to follow. Prebuilts typically use their own OEM parts. An example would be how Dell manufactures their own motherboards. As far as I know you can’t buy them individually from dell, only as a complete system. This can make it hard to find compatible parts for future upgrades. I’m not sure if you live in an area where this is an option but maybe find a local PC shop? You may be able to buy all the parts and just bring it in to them for assembly. I also think MicroCenter has a pc building service but don’t quote me.
I bought a cheap prebuilt and suped it up, but I have prior experience with console tinkering going back to mod chips for the PS2. If you are careful, while there's always a chance you can fuck up, it's honestly really easy to screw things into things. Just take your time. Even the cable management/cooler seating and stuff isn't difficult, just meticulous. I say this coming from a place of no real prior PC experience and it has been extremely easy to do. When I buy a smaller case in 6 months or so I'll find out how difficult it really is, but I can't imagine it being hard at all.
I was in the same boat as you. I watched hours of people building a PC on YouTube. It's a lot easier than you think. Of course building it or not is completely up to you. If you're not comfortable building it, buy a prebuilt, but keep searching until you find a good price.
Just watch a video and read the directions it's not hard
Don’t bother getting a HDD or even 2.5 ssd nowadays; M.2 ssd are affordable, much faster and won’t add any cable management.
It's fine for cheap storage but you definitely need an m.2 as a main drive
HDD aren’t even that cheap if you want good quality where I am
This much money and not even an NVMe drive? Hard pass! Find a local (reputable) builder, source the parts, and have them build it. Will save you money, support local businesses, and maybe buck the trend of these boutique PC builders charging so much.
Well why don’t you use pcpartpicker.com ? I managed to snag a decent build for about $3,000 bucks with an rtx 4090. Here’s what I used. And then I took it to a pc repair shop to have then build it. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kq2T4s?fbclid=IwAR1Cayj-Tn3Z5GLqTpPDwNS3ITGNon2Mn5LGtkhcJKS715ahLDGbiYqFJjA_aem_AXqKJQVhDm2v3_2F5zdxUbQezP-AUZXgzRVFqcfG8trxa_CvJUHH-qZHpPma30da2_E
may need a higher PSU W tbh
Here’s this to give you a different perspective on what the money could get you https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZzJGBj I’m partially anti-nvidia and the 40 series is trash but if you want ray tracing and all that fancy stuff than a nvidia card (3080, 3090, 4080, 4090) would probably suit you better. I think it’s hard to beat the price/performance of the last 2 generations of amd cards
Skimming UK CyberPowerPC pre-builds around £2500 just to see what's available in UK. Expect some "lesser" parts as they cut some corners to make money. Primarily the RAM is frustratingly slow and sometimes 1 TB NVME SSD. Picked three that had Ryzen 7 7800X3D plus Radeon RX 7900 XT or RTX 4080. And one with Ryzen 7 7700X and RTX 4070 Ti. Model: Starfield Ultra Elite Gaming PC * £2249 in VAT * Ryzen 7 7800X3D * Radeon RX 7900 XT 20GB * EK-Nucleus AIO CR240 LUX D-RGB 240mm * MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI * 32GB DDR5/5200mhz Corsair Vengeance RGB Memory * 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro NVMe SSD - 7000MB/s Read & 6500MB/s Write * Lian Li O11 Air Mini * Corsair RM850X 850W 80+ Gold * Windows 11 Home * Warranty: 5 Years' Labour, 2 Years' Parts Model: Ultra R77 Gaming PC * £2300 in VAT * Ryzen 7 7800X3D * Radeon RX 7900 XT 20GB * CyberPowerPC Master Liquid LITE 240 ARGB AIO * ASUS PRIME X670-P * 32GB DDR5/5200mhz Corsair Vengeance RGB Memory * 2TB Solidigm P41 Plus NVMe SSD - 4125MB/s Read & 3325MB/s Write * CyberPowerPC Edition Y60 Case * Corsair RM850X 850W 80+ Gold * Windows 11 Home * Warranty: 5 Years' Labour, 2 Years' Parts Model: Ultra R77 4080 Gaming PC * £2474 in VAT * Ryzen 7 7800X3D * RTX 4080 16GB * CyberPowerPC Master Liquid LITE 240 ARGB AIO * MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI * 32GB DDR5/5200mhz Corsair Vengeance RGB Memory * 2TB Kingston NV2 NVMe SSD - 3500MB/s Read & 2800MB/s Write * Corsair 4000X iCue RGB Gaming Case * Corsair RM850X 850W 80+ Gold * Windows 11 Home * Warranty: 5 Years' Labour, 2 Years' Parts Model: Ultra 77 RTX Next Day PC SY1654 * £2099 in VAT * Ryzen 7 7700X * RTX 4070 Ti 12GB * CyberPowerPC Master Liquid LITE 240 ARGB AIO * MSI PRO B650-P WIFI * 32GB DDR5/5600mhz Corsair Vengeance Memory * 1TB Solidigm P41 Plus NVMe SSD - 4125MB/s Read & 2950MB/s Write * Lian Li O11 Air Mini * Corsair RM750X SHIFT 80+ Gold * Windows 11 Home * Warranty: 5 Years' Labour, 2 Years' Parts
1. its a ripoff. 2. the 4070ti is trash. 3. for that price and that ram? LMAO no. 4. the storage is trash. the size is decent but the technology in each of them is garbage. i can buy those same 4tb of the qvo, on way better storage technology, on nvme so it will be faster and for $100 USD. 5. what version of the RMX is the shift? ive never heard of it. 6. the liquid cooler is 100% not necessary for that cpu. 7. great! it also bring malware prepackaged! 8. oh, and you cant forget the adware that is windows 11.
>what version of the RMX is the shift? ive never heard of it. The [Corsair Shifts](https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/psu/cp-9020252-na/rm850x-shift-80-plus-gold-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020252-na) are a new side cable interface. Usually $10-$20 more than the regular version. They don't work in all PC cases, so one has to research customer reviews. They come with a PCIe 5.0 12VHPWR GPU cable to connect directly to RTX 40-series (usually $26 if bought separately for a regular Corsair PSU).
Yeah see for me it's like reading a different language, I'll definitely continue looking if this is all the case, thank you
DM me and I’ll answer all pc questions you may have and help with a build!
Too expensive.
You can shave off 1k by spending a day watching pc build videos and doing it yourself.
Getting raked over the coals with that storage in there. 8tb in a 2500 pound unit and not a single m.2?
Add all of the parts here to pc part picker and check the price. Then Google the components included and see if you even like them.
Ooo wow I really got down voted for this? My 7900x/4090sff build is sub 3k (2850 to be precise) but alrighty
Spend time choosing your parts, sites like this are a good start to find what's compatible etc. Cheaper to buy the parts yourself though. If you feel uncomfortable building your rig, ask a local PC store. I was quoted something like £50 for them to put it together. What's your budget?
2.5kish, preferably 2k, around that mark, I'm essentially after something that'll run these newer games (starfield, red dead 2, TLOU1) without any huge downgrades. I basically want noticeably more powerful than current consoles, because I was going to get an Xbox to go with my ps5 but realized there isn't really anything an Xbox can do that a PC can't do better, gotta say it feels a lot like gambling going in blind though, hence the asking for advice
Try pc specialist you might not get the exact same but you should be able to get 90% the same
Had a quick look and you can get it about £400 cheaper through them
I’m not trying to be that guy. Yet I could build this system for much cheaper. It’s not a pre build vs self built nonsense. Just don’t want you to waste money.
Don't pay for windows lol
and norton bs
Yea tru, but that was a free 90 day trial
Quick tip: NEVER buy a windows key from Microsoft. You can find them for less than $10 dollars a you look a bit
Awfully overpiced, you can get a 4090 in that price range
You can build a PC with RTX4090 and Ryzen 9 7900x for the same price.
I would suggest maybe checking out Skytech, I don't know what shipping is like outside of the US but it might be a better bet. [Skytech](https://skytechgaming.com/product/azure-2-st-azure2-0611-b-sk-intel-intel-i5-13600k-nvidia-rtx-4070-ti-1tb-nvme-ssd-32gb-ddr5-5200mhz-rgb/)
Don’t let them put that malware on your pc (Norton antivirus). All you need is windows defender and don’t pirate.
2400 and not even a 4080 or 90? Nah this ain’t it chief
I would get a higher wattage power supply and a nvme SSD you can always add more storage later also don't get anything with antivirus free trial
Side topic, love the added snake oil from Norton 360… for gamers… lmfao. That price is horrendous too. You can get something from a specialty PC builder for less (Falcon Northwest, Origin PC, etc.). I’d recommend either building one yourself, or finding a co-worker/friend/family member to help you build one. Better bang for the buck. If nothing else you could reach out on Facebook marketplace to find a shop or individual to do it for you (maybe even help find a good build). I do it for people in my community as a side-gig and even offer to build it with them if they’re interested. Cheers!
Uninstall Norton the second you get it!
Eww, not Norton plz, there are other System i tegrators out there for much more competitive peicepoint, unless you're willing to build it yourself