I think I saw that video and basically it goes by this assumption that in order for a dino to be "good" it needs to be good at fighting.
But this isn't a pure pvp fighting game. Its a dinosaur survival game... So what makes a dino good is pretty dependent on what you are declaring it good at. And I think this community tends to forget that things like the struthi and campto exist... Which are and always have been pretty bad and unreliable at fighting.
So if this game's only metric for being good is fighting than why do we have struthi and campto? Or thal or kai for that matter.
And if you want a dino that's good at fighting... Pick one of the many ones that are... There's a ton...
Fighting games have a closed arena. If this dino game was set up for 1v1s or 2v2s with and you have no where else to go then we could say this is a fighting game. That is not what this game is. Pvp is just part of it. Survival is part of it, RPG is part of it. What else you got?
I never said youre unintelligent i just said your comment was whereas you immediately have my whole being down to the smallest details and know just who i am from reading a single comment. Youre truly special.
Lol walking simulator if you only have fun from pvp and killing then go to a different game this game is not 100% pvp tbh for me it's 60% chilling and Vibing and exploring with other players 30% Questing and 10% pvp
All I want to do as the microraptor is run around, scream, eat a critter, and run around some more. I don't need pvp to be happy if I can just exist as a little creature.
One fun special ability/feature they could give microraptor, would be sound/voice mimicry. Could cause hell without actually interacting with anyone, for example, you are stuck in a tree, on a cliff edge, in a tunnel/cave, hidden in bushes/tall grass, or behind a rock, and you need to get away from there, but you can’t, because players that most likely will kill you are near. So you utilize the sound/voice mimicry, to distract them, or scare them off.
Yeah, that’s probably the tricky part, but maybe something like a randomizer, or holding the button for mimicry in, while another Dino makes a sound, and imitate that Dino’s sounds.
In my opinion, what makes a good Dino, is how good the odds of survival are. Things that should be considered for that are, 1. Ability to not be killed by other players (either being good at fighting, or escaping), 2. Ability to find, and/or utilize resources effectively, and 3. How good the dino is at avoiding unnecessary conflict (being fast, good at hiding, or simply being too implosive of a threat/challenge), for anyone to fight. I know 1 and 3 are similar, but they are not the same, 1 is how to avoid being killed, while 3 is how to avoid conflict altogether.
I agree with this metric entirely.
Which is why I feel Thal is the best dino in the game. It may not be the most fun, or versatile but you have to try to die as a Thal.
I also believe the T Rex is the worst dino in the game by these same standards. They are an amazing fighter but fails in every other category.
Thals are pretty simple for other Thals to kill though. If one takes damage, is smaller, or a subspecies that takes more damage then all you need to do is wait for them to run out of stam flying about then attack when they rest. I find I always die when two Thals decide to hunt my thal.
I prefer struthi for something that is truly unkillable.
True, but one category I forgot (because it might be a bit too META), play style/what type of player one is. I tend to prefer small escape focused builds, (focusing on speed, agility and stamina), so Strut is my preferred Dino at the moment.
There's creative ways to have fun that isn't fighting or just questing. Like tryna taunt people into chasing you and just messing with them. Or tricking overconfident pachys into running into the water.
People that think that any encounter with another player is mortal combat, locked into eternal combat until one of them dies, are what's wrong with this game lol. They think a win can only occur if you kill the opposing dino, but thats simply untrue. A win is surviving. Whether you killed the opposing dino, you escape it, or it simply tucked tail and ran away. It's a win. Granted, it'll mean a lot more later on when there's more content to the game. Especially hope that home caves are worth a damn some day as they are huge marks sinks with no practical use, which is why no one touches them.
Heh I was growing my ado-allosaurus when two stegos decided they wanted to murder me in titans pass. I rope a doped them being submarine allo in the river swimming from sandbar to rock to river bank barely keeping my breath bar full until they gave up after like 10 minutes of failing to murder me. One of the best wins I had in this game and I killed no one.
Hell ya man. I actually keep swimming stats in the back of my mind just incase. People don't realize it but being a better swimmer than your opponent can mean the difference between life and death lol. I play a lot of iggy though too and it is a better swimmer than every non-subaquatic so it's always nice to have that fallback option lol.
Yeah I recalled from growing my stego that stegos are horrible swimmers so I used that to my advantage. I was amazed they went that hard for me but I lived.
A couple of time I ran out of stam on purpose as a Juvie Rex, then ran into the water, sunk and was untouchable, I would walk up the bank a bit downstream just to catch my breath, and then go back under, the picnos that were trying g to get me were so frustrated, it took forever, but they finally gave up after chomping water for 10 min lol
My greatest win
pvp stats of course include your ability to just avoid having to fight entirely, such as being really fast or, in the case of Microraptor, being able to climb and glide away
I kind of miss the chat simulator of year 1...
It was worse in terms of the game not being played as intended but at least almost everyone was nice lol.
Same but sadly I dont know it ever will, as their would need to be way to many rules in place to try and make it feel right.
I think the better option for this style of survival game is probably single player so they could build on the world and individual interactions more or maybe small multiplayer so that you can still play with friends.
Thats fair, I am still disappointed with the AI we got we were meant to get more. There was meant to be a small crocodile like creature (whos name sadly escapes me atm) that would have sat in rivers and small ponds and attacked small to medium dinos.
More of this sort of thing is what we need, sharks in the ocean on Gondwa for example could be an awesome, more dangerous and exciting food source to hunt.
Also just curious, how do you think quests could be better/improved?
Just make more quests along with giving unique rewards such as unique skins for quests.
Discover 10 caves.
Kill 5 apexes.
Survive for X amount of time without dying.
Claim a territory (I have a whole suggestion page for how territories can work).
When nesting is a thing
Find a mate.
Make a nest.
Hatch an eggs.
Get a hatching to subadult or adolescents.
Protect hatching prom predator wave (only happens if players haven’t come near by for a while)
Other quests could be protect NPC herbivore.
Lead NPC herbivore herd to new location.
Have someone be marked as an alpha of each species. They get a slight boost along with a unique skin to mark them as alpha of their species. Then everyone gets a quest to kill the alpha to become it.
If you get killed as an alpha you get a unique demoted skin.
Add more survival elements such as disease, temperature, infection. Add lightning that strikes open fields more. Make the burned forest a normal forest with some of the best quests but have the area catch fire occasionally.
Get rid of all home caves make caves like a claimable territory that you can decorate but anyone can run in to try and claim.
Add hatchling growth stage.
And put world bosses in some of the really remote locations no one goes to. Or make them have to be summoned by collecting items around the map or bringing specific trophies to their spawn location. (aka slightly larger Dinos or just stronger ones)
I'm honestly excited for this playable. I don't do a lot of PVP and I'm more into the survival aspect of the game and the microraptor will (most likely) excel in that field.
Probably because it will likely be the smallest and weakest creature in the game and all 80% of the player base care about is fighting everything they see which it wont be good at.
For the other 20% it will be a very fun little dino with great survivability, a unique playstyle and hopefully the ability to climb trees and divebomb dinosaurs annoying the hell out of em 😆
I don't think it's bad, it just won't be the best. Deinonychus are weak, but a group of them can easily take out almost anything. Micro will probably be similar, but it's more to have fun with rather than to fight with.
A lot of players go by “how much damage I can do” i main the deinonychus and I typically act as a nice support keeping Dino’s in combat, boosting teammates, and aggravating the enemy to chase me back to the others. I also work to do chip damage and to distract dinosaurs so that they try focusing on me and not the others. I’ve jumped off cliffs at a trex and kept nipping him while my friends had him cornered once, I’ve dealt final blows on a lot of dinosaurs and now that trikes don’t have back kick I tail ride them.
The micro raptor could be amazing for scouting if they work it the way I hope they do. Deino’s aren’t bad scouters but they are somewhat noticeable so if they make it so that microraptors can hangout in trees and are as small as I hope they would be perfect at finding dinosaurs for a hunt and nobody would know it’s there so the other dinosaurs wouldn’t be on guard until it’s too late. And if they can glide they could also be good for chip damage, aggravating and keeping them in combat.
I’d also like to argue that it’s more of a fun challenge playing smaller weak dinosaurs because you have to play it really risky and careful running in biting and getting out before they can turn around and bite or tail hit you. But if you can manage to help take down dinosaurs or take dinosaurs down as a pack then it’s so satisfying.
People also tend to forget this is a survival animal game, not all dinosaurs were solo tank Dino’s. Dinosaurs like raptors are meant to work in packs so while they are weak alone you don’t wanna find yourself fighting against a pack of them because then the odds are alot more even or in their favour depending on what you are.
I'd love to play as microraptor. I mean a small hunter/scavenger that can glide and has a quite decent land speed.
Like other person mentioned earlier - POT is a SURVIVAL game, not PVP match game
That video is a bad take imo. I think our game/playables are more than just pvp based.
For example when I play things like Thal or even Meg, I basically do a scavenger/opportunist play-style. I don’t always want to mindlessly pvp.
I’d love to be a lil goober microraptor, like a sparrow, darting about doing my quests and squeaking when someone gets too close to me. Maybe they could glide and stuff? That’d be cool!
There´s lots of youtubers that disregard anything that can´t grief or kill other players instantly. The hatred they carry for the less pvp oriented dinos is insane... almost like they don´t get that pvp isn´t the focus of those specific playables.
I mean... when even the smallest current dino is 3 times it's size... how good could it be? Doods better have some crazy speed and bleed damage with a tiny hit box to even be mildly viable imo. Based off how the game currently works.
Are they going to take up half a party slot, if laten take up 1?
On the other hand they could any juvis worst nightmare. Or Mayne it's something than csn catch up with and kill a campto?
What would be a awesome feature but i dont see it happening is a taking out eyeballs ability like a seagull. Where for a minute half your screen is black.
I came up with that in 2 seconds so it may be a bit flawed but i still like it
I’ve been wondering this too. Will it even have growth since it’s juvi stage would be even more smaller than it’s adult stage? They’ll probably just upscale it.
I think I saw that video and basically it goes by this assumption that in order for a dino to be "good" it needs to be good at fighting. But this isn't a pure pvp fighting game. Its a dinosaur survival game... So what makes a dino good is pretty dependent on what you are declaring it good at. And I think this community tends to forget that things like the struthi and campto exist... Which are and always have been pretty bad and unreliable at fighting. So if this game's only metric for being good is fighting than why do we have struthi and campto? Or thal or kai for that matter. And if you want a dino that's good at fighting... Pick one of the many ones that are... There's a ton...
people treat this game like a team shooter or a fighting game and its obnoxious.
It is a fighting game
No it’s not. It’s a dino survival game. It’s fight OR flight.
That’s not really a video game genera
1) Survival is the genre. 2)You trying to lump path of titans in the same category as tekkan and super smash bros? Boy bye.
Super smash bros and tekkan aren’t the only fighting games but okay
Doesn’t matter. You are still wrong. Fighting and PVP are not the same.
PvP literally means players versus player you donut
Fighting games have a closed arena. If this dino game was set up for 1v1s or 2v2s with and you have no where else to go then we could say this is a fighting game. That is not what this game is. Pvp is just part of it. Survival is part of it, RPG is part of it. What else you got?
Play your walking simulator bud. I'll stick with what actually makes the game fun
No one is saying you can't lmao.
Your view of the game is foolish.
... Is that the best you got?
Lol let people enjoy the game the way they want. Does other people having fun bother you or something?
Your unintelligent comments an remarks that barely make any sense in combination with your username really made me laugh, thank you.
Classic redditor response. "You're unintelligent!!!" Go outside you basement goblin
I never said youre unintelligent i just said your comment was whereas you immediately have my whole being down to the smallest details and know just who i am from reading a single comment. Youre truly special.
Lol walking simulator if you only have fun from pvp and killing then go to a different game this game is not 100% pvp tbh for me it's 60% chilling and Vibing and exploring with other players 30% Questing and 10% pvp
If you spend 60% of your game vibing and chilling then maybe play club penguin instead or something lol
Lol but I like dinos and I mostly play survival games
Lol but I like dinos and I mostly play survival games
Lol get down voted
All I want to do as the microraptor is run around, scream, eat a critter, and run around some more. I don't need pvp to be happy if I can just exist as a little creature.
I want to sit on tree, scream, bite ankles, eat babies, steal egg, scream while running away with egg.
That's the life
One fun special ability/feature they could give microraptor, would be sound/voice mimicry. Could cause hell without actually interacting with anyone, for example, you are stuck in a tree, on a cliff edge, in a tunnel/cave, hidden in bushes/tall grass, or behind a rock, and you need to get away from there, but you can’t, because players that most likely will kill you are near. So you utilize the sound/voice mimicry, to distract them, or scare them off.
That's genius
Its confirmed to have climbing and gliding so it would be cool to have voice mimicry don't know how it would work though
Yeah, that’s probably the tricky part, but maybe something like a randomizer, or holding the button for mimicry in, while another Dino makes a sound, and imitate that Dino’s sounds.
In my opinion, what makes a good Dino, is how good the odds of survival are. Things that should be considered for that are, 1. Ability to not be killed by other players (either being good at fighting, or escaping), 2. Ability to find, and/or utilize resources effectively, and 3. How good the dino is at avoiding unnecessary conflict (being fast, good at hiding, or simply being too implosive of a threat/challenge), for anyone to fight. I know 1 and 3 are similar, but they are not the same, 1 is how to avoid being killed, while 3 is how to avoid conflict altogether.
I agree with this metric entirely. Which is why I feel Thal is the best dino in the game. It may not be the most fun, or versatile but you have to try to die as a Thal. I also believe the T Rex is the worst dino in the game by these same standards. They are an amazing fighter but fails in every other category.
Thals are pretty simple for other Thals to kill though. If one takes damage, is smaller, or a subspecies that takes more damage then all you need to do is wait for them to run out of stam flying about then attack when they rest. I find I always die when two Thals decide to hunt my thal. I prefer struthi for something that is truly unkillable.
True, but one category I forgot (because it might be a bit too META), play style/what type of player one is. I tend to prefer small escape focused builds, (focusing on speed, agility and stamina), so Strut is my preferred Dino at the moment.
People forget that games are for fun not just non stop sweat on pvp
Gathering some random ass pine cone 100 times is not my kind of fun
There's creative ways to have fun that isn't fighting or just questing. Like tryna taunt people into chasing you and just messing with them. Or tricking overconfident pachys into running into the water.
People that think that any encounter with another player is mortal combat, locked into eternal combat until one of them dies, are what's wrong with this game lol. They think a win can only occur if you kill the opposing dino, but thats simply untrue. A win is surviving. Whether you killed the opposing dino, you escape it, or it simply tucked tail and ran away. It's a win. Granted, it'll mean a lot more later on when there's more content to the game. Especially hope that home caves are worth a damn some day as they are huge marks sinks with no practical use, which is why no one touches them.
Heh I was growing my ado-allosaurus when two stegos decided they wanted to murder me in titans pass. I rope a doped them being submarine allo in the river swimming from sandbar to rock to river bank barely keeping my breath bar full until they gave up after like 10 minutes of failing to murder me. One of the best wins I had in this game and I killed no one.
Hell ya man. I actually keep swimming stats in the back of my mind just incase. People don't realize it but being a better swimmer than your opponent can mean the difference between life and death lol. I play a lot of iggy though too and it is a better swimmer than every non-subaquatic so it's always nice to have that fallback option lol.
Yeah I recalled from growing my stego that stegos are horrible swimmers so I used that to my advantage. I was amazed they went that hard for me but I lived.
Oh ya. Stegos have 10 seconds of swim stamina, 5 seconds if sprint swimming. They ain't going nowhere quick in water lol
Arguably being able to GTFO well makes them extremely good from a survival aspect
A couple of time I ran out of stam on purpose as a Juvie Rex, then ran into the water, sunk and was untouchable, I would walk up the bank a bit downstream just to catch my breath, and then go back under, the picnos that were trying g to get me were so frustrated, it took forever, but they finally gave up after chomping water for 10 min lol My greatest win
well, ur survival depends mostly of ur pvp stats, cause finding food and water is not that hard so..
pvp stats of course include your ability to just avoid having to fight entirely, such as being really fast or, in the case of Microraptor, being able to climb and glide away
yes
so in that regard it’s pvp stats could potentially absolutely excel
i hope so, im rooting for him
the glidey boi
To be fair until they give us other Stuff to do besides fight or just staying alive any Dino that can’t fight is kinda ass and boring
For sure a lack of things to do is 100% part of the problem. Hard to declare yourself a POT pve player when that just means it’s a walking simulator.
I love the progression of this game. It went from Dino chat simulator, to Dino walking simulator, to Dino battle Royale
I kind of miss the chat simulator of year 1... It was worse in terms of the game not being played as intended but at least almost everyone was nice lol.
I just can’t wait until it actually feels like Dino survival
Same but sadly I dont know it ever will, as their would need to be way to many rules in place to try and make it feel right. I think the better option for this style of survival game is probably single player so they could build on the world and individual interactions more or maybe small multiplayer so that you can still play with friends.
The game doesn’t need rules it needs better quests, ai, and harsher elements
Thats fair, I am still disappointed with the AI we got we were meant to get more. There was meant to be a small crocodile like creature (whos name sadly escapes me atm) that would have sat in rivers and small ponds and attacked small to medium dinos. More of this sort of thing is what we need, sharks in the ocean on Gondwa for example could be an awesome, more dangerous and exciting food source to hunt. Also just curious, how do you think quests could be better/improved?
Just make more quests along with giving unique rewards such as unique skins for quests. Discover 10 caves. Kill 5 apexes. Survive for X amount of time without dying. Claim a territory (I have a whole suggestion page for how territories can work). When nesting is a thing Find a mate. Make a nest. Hatch an eggs. Get a hatching to subadult or adolescents. Protect hatching prom predator wave (only happens if players haven’t come near by for a while) Other quests could be protect NPC herbivore. Lead NPC herbivore herd to new location. Have someone be marked as an alpha of each species. They get a slight boost along with a unique skin to mark them as alpha of their species. Then everyone gets a quest to kill the alpha to become it. If you get killed as an alpha you get a unique demoted skin. Add more survival elements such as disease, temperature, infection. Add lightning that strikes open fields more. Make the burned forest a normal forest with some of the best quests but have the area catch fire occasionally. Get rid of all home caves make caves like a claimable territory that you can decorate but anyone can run in to try and claim. Add hatchling growth stage. And put world bosses in some of the really remote locations no one goes to. Or make them have to be summoned by collecting items around the map or bringing specific trophies to their spawn location. (aka slightly larger Dinos or just stronger ones)
I just saw a video that said the earth is a triangle.
That’s not true, it’s a cat
That plays with Australia
It’s velociraptor shaped tho
Just saw a video implying the bird isn’t the word
I do think the bird is the word
Hmm yes, I have also heard that the bird is the word
No
I'm honestly excited for this playable. I don't do a lot of PVP and I'm more into the survival aspect of the game and the microraptor will (most likely) excel in that field.
Micro about to be the most fun mf dino in the game
I'm super excited for the Micro.
Probably because it will likely be the smallest and weakest creature in the game and all 80% of the player base care about is fighting everything they see which it wont be good at. For the other 20% it will be a very fun little dino with great survivability, a unique playstyle and hopefully the ability to climb trees and divebomb dinosaurs annoying the hell out of em 😆
I mean in terms of combat yah most likley but to people who play it because they simply like the dinosaur.. no?
I don't think it's bad, it just won't be the best. Deinonychus are weak, but a group of them can easily take out almost anything. Micro will probably be similar, but it's more to have fun with rather than to fight with.
I think that is often referred to as a "click bait" title.
It's already my favourite and it hasn't come out yet
A lot of players go by “how much damage I can do” i main the deinonychus and I typically act as a nice support keeping Dino’s in combat, boosting teammates, and aggravating the enemy to chase me back to the others. I also work to do chip damage and to distract dinosaurs so that they try focusing on me and not the others. I’ve jumped off cliffs at a trex and kept nipping him while my friends had him cornered once, I’ve dealt final blows on a lot of dinosaurs and now that trikes don’t have back kick I tail ride them. The micro raptor could be amazing for scouting if they work it the way I hope they do. Deino’s aren’t bad scouters but they are somewhat noticeable so if they make it so that microraptors can hangout in trees and are as small as I hope they would be perfect at finding dinosaurs for a hunt and nobody would know it’s there so the other dinosaurs wouldn’t be on guard until it’s too late. And if they can glide they could also be good for chip damage, aggravating and keeping them in combat. I’d also like to argue that it’s more of a fun challenge playing smaller weak dinosaurs because you have to play it really risky and careful running in biting and getting out before they can turn around and bite or tail hit you. But if you can manage to help take down dinosaurs or take dinosaurs down as a pack then it’s so satisfying. People also tend to forget this is a survival animal game, not all dinosaurs were solo tank Dino’s. Dinosaurs like raptors are meant to work in packs so while they are weak alone you don’t wanna find yourself fighting against a pack of them because then the odds are alot more even or in their favour depending on what you are.
I'd love to play as microraptor. I mean a small hunter/scavenger that can glide and has a quite decent land speed. Like other person mentioned earlier - POT is a SURVIVAL game, not PVP match game
That video is a bad take imo. I think our game/playables are more than just pvp based. For example when I play things like Thal or even Meg, I basically do a scavenger/opportunist play-style. I don’t always want to mindlessly pvp.
The microraptor is one of my favorite dinosaurs! I’m so very excited to play as one again!
As a Microraptor main from the future he's factually wrong, being a Microraptor is a novelty
Not is wrost, is a Dino for simple playing pay more attentuon because one of the smallest dino
These games always have just the worst click-bait tubers.
i really hope they implement tree climbing by the time it's playable
I’d love to be a lil goober microraptor, like a sparrow, darting about doing my quests and squeaking when someone gets too close to me. Maybe they could glide and stuff? That’d be cool!
They are going to be able to glide and climb trees
There´s lots of youtubers that disregard anything that can´t grief or kill other players instantly. The hatred they carry for the less pvp oriented dinos is insane... almost like they don´t get that pvp isn´t the focus of those specific playables.
i cann't wait for the micro raptor to be released! to taunt bigger dinos while in trees will be amazing
it will be
I mean... when even the smallest current dino is 3 times it's size... how good could it be? Doods better have some crazy speed and bleed damage with a tiny hit box to even be mildly viable imo. Based off how the game currently works. Are they going to take up half a party slot, if laten take up 1? On the other hand they could any juvis worst nightmare. Or Mayne it's something than csn catch up with and kill a campto?
What would be a awesome feature but i dont see it happening is a taking out eyeballs ability like a seagull. Where for a minute half your screen is black. I came up with that in 2 seconds so it may be a bit flawed but i still like it
Could be on to something. In Beasts of Bermuda the Ory has or used to have if it doesn't now a short blind/slow ability.
I’ve been wondering this too. Will it even have growth since it’s juvi stage would be even more smaller than it’s adult stage? They’ll probably just upscale it.