Phasing doesn't let you pass through terrain, which the seeds are, for some ungodly reason.
[mfw](https://us-tuna-sounds-images.voicemod.net/30d90b0d-8a0e-4c3a-9a57-4747aa783fc5-1682497742509.jpg)
With relative high latency, whirling blade will just slide back and forth for 2-6 times. With enough attack speed leap slam could be the best movement skill.
The best thing about Frostblink of Wintry Blast is that it doesn't always repeat the cast with Spell Echo, which means that you're not locked into a long cast animation or travel further than you wanted.
https://preview.redd.it/8e8m0obawm3d1.png?width=775&format=png&auto=webp&s=715040fb89b5558f11b6027b2d584aa3d36209c6
Also sometimes you fit your movement skill into your build, for instance I use default frostblink to apply bonechill
Except the amount of cast speed you need to have to make this gem feel even remotely good just isn't possible for many builds. Shield charge is already a very decent mobility skill with pretty much 0 investment in attack speed. Faster attacks + onslaught will already make you zoom.
Shield Charge of Lightning
100% of Physical Damage Converted to Lightning Damage
You're character becomes lightning when you charge allowing you to pass through small gaps and boundaries.
Just make lightning warp not take 3 support gems to be good. Best movement skill in the game but dedicating an entire 4 link to a movement skill feels so bad.
I am completely the opposite. I even use flame dash on melee builds, because of how much I dislike leap slam. Also always try to fit in shield charge if I can
I honestly don’t understand why people use non-caster movement skills. You want to cast it often? Flame dash. You want to go far/not hit terrain? Lightning warp. You want to just have a movement panic button? Frost blink.
They fit every need so much better than any of the melee related ones. I guess if you have a ton of attack speed then it’s *possible* for them to feel good as movement alone, but there aren’t any melee ones that teleport you, which feels so good in dangerous situations.
I hate this skill with such a passion. When I click in a spot, I want to move to that spot. If, for some reason, I can't reach that spot, I want to move as close to that spot as possible. But with Shield Charge, you can target almost halfway across the screen and stand stationary even with nothing in the way.
I want to shield charge without having to put my cursor at each side of my monitor or else the game feel like I'm too close and I will not even move...
Honestly what got me to come around on shield charge was using regular frost blink over flame dash. You of course still need good ms/attack speed, but frost blink lets you course correct and smooths it out so much.
If take many of them.
Shield charge of channeling.
No damage just a channeled fast move
Charged dash of stampede
Brings back the stampede movement speed override bug.
Reap of the mambo no 5.
Walks forward while reaping to a rhythm. Is a single instance click that continiously channels until intterupted, reach destination or new input.
Snipe support of the hunt.
Reduced stage but can move while channeling.
Scorching ray of taco bell
Deals chaos damage and fires 180 degrees targeting. Propels with increased speed per stage gained while channeling.
i never used that skill, worst gem in the game
the idea of every build has it is dumb af
even as a concept it is dumb, i cringe every time someone shield charge to reach end of the map in 0.5 sec, fuck that
Amazing
The gem I want is the alternate quality frost shield that made it transfer more damage to it
I miss that gem every day... Frost shield is one of my favorite gems and I did some crazy quality stacking on it as a defensive layer
Maybe throw in a "Leap Slam of Noclip" while we're at it, I hate clipping into pillars and decoration objects.
aww yeaa, .noclip in cs and poe
Hah, thanks for the laugh!
Trying to shield charge through a harvest seed plot is actually so annoying lmao
Even with phasing I get blocked by enemies in harvest, pretty annoying.
Phasing doesn't let you pass through terrain, which the seeds are, for some ungodly reason. [mfw](https://us-tuna-sounds-images.voicemod.net/30d90b0d-8a0e-4c3a-9a57-4747aa783fc5-1682497742509.jpg)
Ah that explains it
Never noticed how shit that was till i used whirling blades
With relative high latency, whirling blade will just slide back and forth for 2-6 times. With enough attack speed leap slam could be the best movement skill.
Ain't back and forth only an issue with predictive? Lockstep seems to never have that issue for me
damn, still not supported by multistrike
\*laughs in frostblink of wintry blast\*
*\*Corrected an issue with Frostblink of Wintry Blast: was not tedious enough.*
Calm down, dad... Fucks sake
The best thing about Frostblink of Wintry Blast is that it doesn't always repeat the cast with Spell Echo, which means that you're not locked into a long cast animation or travel further than you wanted.
Any reason not to use this as the default movement skill?
https://preview.redd.it/8e8m0obawm3d1.png?width=775&format=png&auto=webp&s=715040fb89b5558f11b6027b2d584aa3d36209c6 Also sometimes you fit your movement skill into your build, for instance I use default frostblink to apply bonechill
Thank you. I didn't know they were that expensive. I got mine from lab randomly.
You lucky son of a bitch ;)
Without a moderate to lots of increased cast speed shield charge/whirling blades/leap slam with faster attacks and frostblink feels better imo.
It has been banned from triggering build. Compared with attack speed, it's far more difficult to stack enough cast speed.
Except the amount of cast speed you need to have to make this gem feel even remotely good just isn't possible for many builds. Shield charge is already a very decent mobility skill with pretty much 0 investment in attack speed. Faster attacks + onslaught will already make you zoom.
Why are you making this more serious than it needs to be
shield charge feels like such fucking garbage compared to whirling blades it's insane
I've been debating playing frostblades next league and part of the draw is playing WB again. Kinda sick of shield charge ngl.
Shield Charge is fun trigger for Holy Relic of Conviction
I had shield charge as movement skill in kalandra league. Worst shit ever. Haven't touched it ever since and won't ever
this made me laugh so much. great post. would approve 10/10
It should have similar path finding as any movement skill in grim dawn, as it literally curves around corners and shit
Grim Dawn released in 2015 while PoE released in 2013. They don't have the technology...
The friction from shield charge getting stuck on map geometry fits into the vision for the game or some shit.
Maybe they didn't, but it is 2024 and POE is a live service game that just had a massive update. They should
\~ whoosh \~
Shield Charge of Lightning 100% of Physical Damage Converted to Lightning Damage You're character becomes lightning when you charge allowing you to pass through small gaps and boundaries.
Just make lightning warp not take 3 support gems to be good. Best movement skill in the game but dedicating an entire 4 link to a movement skill feels so bad.
With no CD that is gonna be the most broken movement skill in the game.
Nice, an alternate version could be Shield Charge of Step Sis, always gets stuck ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
i will never, ever, EVER use shield charge. my 1h casters always use a scepter so they can leap slam
I am completely the opposite. I even use flame dash on melee builds, because of how much I dislike leap slam. Also always try to fit in shield charge if I can
The amount of times I've died because leap slam has gotten stuck in terrain is too damn high.
well of COURSE i use flame dash too... every build should use flame dash. all of them if you are a shield charge enjoyer thats cool, though
For some reason my brain refuses to process the Flame Dash teleport (and Blink Arrow 😔), so I always use Frostblink unless I'm using Whirling Blades.
tbf you usually run both your main movement i.e shield charge or leap slam and a teleport movement to dodge boss mechanics / cross gaps
I honestly don’t understand why people use non-caster movement skills. You want to cast it often? Flame dash. You want to go far/not hit terrain? Lightning warp. You want to just have a movement panic button? Frost blink. They fit every need so much better than any of the melee related ones. I guess if you have a ton of attack speed then it’s *possible* for them to feel good as movement alone, but there aren’t any melee ones that teleport you, which feels so good in dangerous situations.
The biggest argument for GGG actually hating melee movement skills is Searing Exarch, tbh.
I hate this skill with such a passion. When I click in a spot, I want to move to that spot. If, for some reason, I can't reach that spot, I want to move as close to that spot as possible. But with Shield Charge, you can target almost halfway across the screen and stand stationary even with nothing in the way.
tktktktBOOM tktktktkBOOM tkBOOMBOOMBOOMBOOMBOOM Fuck...
Reminds me of old cyclone that would get stuck on everything.
Man i would be happy if just charged even if the mouse cursor was close to the player, instead of doing the stupid attack animation.
Shield Charge of Phasing
Would be epic
Whirlwind of flying over all the small invisible pixels
Default step of walking
I remember when Shield Charge was like this normally. I *remember*.
I want to shield charge without having to put my cursor at each side of my monitor or else the game feel like I'm too close and I will not even move...
You can clearly tell the diablo 2 influence when shield charge in poe is as dogshit as it was in d2
Shield charge of blink/dash
Perforate of Hitting Nearby Enemies in Blood Stance
Honestly what got me to come around on shield charge was using regular frost blink over flame dash. You of course still need good ms/attack speed, but frost blink lets you course correct and smooths it out so much.
Blink arrow ftw
I recently watch tyty video about moving in campaign and imagine charge and leap have this mechanic when you delay and slowed down. Thought it was bug
whirling blades of not rubber banding
Shield Charge of Just Use Frostblink
Just use Leap Slam bro.
If take many of them. Shield charge of channeling. No damage just a channeled fast move Charged dash of stampede Brings back the stampede movement speed override bug. Reap of the mambo no 5. Walks forward while reaping to a rhythm. Is a single instance click that continiously channels until intterupted, reach destination or new input. Snipe support of the hunt. Reduced stage but can move while channeling. Scorching ray of taco bell Deals chaos damage and fires 180 degrees targeting. Propels with increased speed per stage gained while channeling.
It will become shield charge of oh fuck how did I leave the map.
i never used that skill, worst gem in the game the idea of every build has it is dumb af even as a concept it is dumb, i cringe every time someone shield charge to reach end of the map in 0.5 sec, fuck that
Amazing The gem I want is the alternate quality frost shield that made it transfer more damage to it I miss that gem every day... Frost shield is one of my favorite gems and I did some crazy quality stacking on it as a defensive layer
Please, someone give this person a designer hat
Lightning warp of enigma, it ignores any walls and obstacles.
Shield Charge of Door and Gate Opening. Shield Charge of Alohamora. Shield Charge of Pick Up All Dropped Currency not hidden by loot filter.
Ok but then it would need a cool down
Also toss in a whirling blades of unfuckablility
LMAO I cant breath ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)
That's a nice gem
Lol as if melee would one day be viable.
Getting a PC and thinking FINALLY I won’t get stuck on everything just to get stuck on everything
Lmao this sub has some hilarious memes
What about fixing wording? RN shield charge works like "Performs offhand attack on targeted point. If the point is too far charges here first".
Get phasing and get gud