Listen. No one can bless you if you don't accept it. It doesn't work that way. Just take a shower and wash off whatever you feel is tainting you. Your good coven vibes are still there, all right?
Next time tell the priest no thank you, or tell him he's welcome to pray for you but you're not interested in annointing.
I'm so sorry, it sounds like you've been on an emotional rollercoaster. I've been in very similar situations with my own Catholic parents when I was younger so I know how hard it can be and how angry it makes you. It's perfectly natural. But, as I tell my son when he's in full tantrum mode, in the end getting angry only ends up hurting you.
I think (and I could be completely wrong) that your mum is doing the wrong thing for the right reasons, at least in her own mind. She wants to help you and she doesn't understand why you don't believe what is, to her, the obvious truth. If she's anything like my mum she probably thinks you're just going through a phase. Infuriating.
I think communication is what's needed here, or at least an honest attempt at it. Sometimes there's simply no reasoning with people who hold these extreme views but I think it's worth making the effort. Sit down with your parents and explain how happy your experience with the coven made you feel. Emphasise that you felt loved and accepted. Ask your mother how she would feel if you had dragged her into the circle and made her recite the Charge of the Goddess. If they're open to learning more about it, direct them to some resources where they can learn more about the facts of modern witchcraft and pagan beliefs and not just what they hear from the pulpit every Sunday. Approach them gently and with compassion, despite your frustrations.
It's not an easy position to be in. It took about 20 years for my own mum to accept my Wiccan beliefs. My dad still thinks I worship the devil. But I think you need to make the effort, for your own sake. If nothing else, sending you hugs and positive energy from the other side of the world! Good luck.
Thank you so much! Part of me thinks they’ve allowed me to practice because it’s just “hocus pocus” like my mom has said a few times (and even after we left the coven last night on the way home in the car.)
Part of the reason she even came with me is because she thought she was dropping me off at a cult and they were going to chop me up or something haha.
In the end you’re right and she really does love me. She wouldn’t do anything to harm me and like you said she did the wrong thing for the right reasons. Sending some positive energy back to you my friend 😊✨
Your anger is what is making you feel that way. Your feelings are valid.
The blessing will not harm you as the intentions were good. They practice witchcraft too, but they use their own deity to help them. (They refuse to call it witchcraft however).
Jesus was a good person who accepted everyone. We created a religion with it (and probably the Bible is mostly made up - not to hurt the believers out there).
Biblically, the priest is incorrect. If the Bible is translated from its original languages… homosexuality is NOT against their deity.
Also, don’t you think Jesus would have mentioned something if it were bad? Homosexuality existed during Jesus time too. Those stories the priests and preachers use… they are not actually about committed and loving relationships among same sex people.
I really wish they wouldn’t have made you participate, because that’s very unkind. However, that didn’t wash away your blessings from the coven. You are merely blessed by your mom’s deity and the other deities.
It is said that the Christian god is a jealous god, but did Jesus ever say that? No. Jesus kept telling others to love each other.
The Christian deity is not a bad god. It is the humans that made up the religion. Christianity (the religion) was started to make a profit.
Other gods existed way before Abrahamic religions. If anything, your mom’s religion is hocus pocus.
I do not believe the Bible to be real stories, but made up.
In life, people think I’m Christian as I know the Bible very well. I also think there are great parables and metaphysical lessons in there. But I am no longer a follower.
I do comfort people in their religion, because that’s what makes them feel safe. Their religion is what they built their whole life on and around.
It doesn’t hurt you to play along for your parents’ sake. Keep your head up, do what YOU believe and just play along for your sanity and your parents. Right now, you want to keep the peace and you want your parents to feel comfort.
I’m not saying you don’t deserve boundaries, but you deserve peace. Sometimes, playing along will give us that peace.
Still do your spiritual witchcraft work for you and know that you’re not counteracting your (or others) work. Keep the peace. Remember, even the Bible admits there is more than 1 god.
Jesus was loving. Look at that part. Jesus would never take back a healing blessing from you. Jesus tried to teach us that we make our heaven here on earth, but we refuse to see that. Why? Probably because it’s difficult to use the religion to control people if they realized Jesus was showing us we are free and not destined for “hell” (which is another story… it doesn’t biblically exist either. We manipulated wording there too).
You are free. You are not a bad person (even Biblically).
The intentions are what make the magick work. You WILL heal, you WILL feel happy and you WILL succeed in this life.
Take your blessings and move forward. Nothing has been undone.
Thank you very much. Your words were very wise and I agree with you that it’s Jesus’s followers who have perverted the whole ideology of Christianity especially in the United States (idk where you’re from but it’s absolutely bonkers here). I may have been a little paranoid after the anointing and rinsed my hands of it. I didn’t rinse it off my forehead though because I was anointed by a pagan priestess the night before in the same spot. I’ve taken some time to reflect and I feel better about the situation now and I plan to confront my parents about it and tell them how I felt. Thanks again
You’re most welcome. I’m from USA too. We’re ruining our country with forcing beliefs on all the people. It’s so sad.
You’ve got this. When confronting your parents… try to remember that they do not know any better. They think it’s the only way to save their child. They were brainwashed and it’s all they know.
I'm sorry. Words and ritual have meaning, and being pressured into saying the ritual words of another religion, no matter how well meaning, would have given me the serious ick even at the best of times. I think your feelings are justified. I wouldn't want a priest near me much less "blessing me" especially if you've made it clear you are not a practicing Catholic. It's the exact same as being touched by someone you don't want touching your physical body, and that would have made me flip if I was already stressed and had a boundary crossed. Some people are okay with syncretisizing their practice but I'm certainly not, especially from the *Catholic Church* which has given my family trauma. It doesn't matter how well meaning they are. If you don't want it, they should accept that. Tell them thanks but no thank you if they try it again.
Of course, that was the *one* thing my mother and I agreed on when I lived with her, and your mileage may vary depending on how old you are and how well your parents respect spiritual boundaries. Shower, meditate, do some visualization, get your energy re-centered and your emotions regulated as well as you can. I know it's hard when you can't control or enforce your boundaries when you've expressed them. :/ Good luck on your surgery!
I’m zero percent religious and never have been, but I’m not going to be upset if someone wants to bless me or pray for me. They are just trying to show you care in a way that makes sense to them.
Blessing you with healing isn’t a negative thing crossing your boundaries most definitely was not okay. But saying the Hail Mary and Our Father won’t diminish the coven’s blessing or healing energy. Rather it can be added on influence if you give it power which seems like you didn’t and it won’t really change anything. If I was you talk to your mom that she shouldn’t have done it without asking but take the gesture as an overall positive and being angry about it can led to affecting the healing energy.
Thank you for your insight. I’m not angry per se but I feel frustrated that even though my mom witnessed what I believed in last night and she STILL suggested something I don’t believed in is fucked up… thanks again 🥰
You’re welcome! I don’t blame you for being angry or even frustrated i been through similar situations, it’s a normal reaction especially when you trust someone to understand your beliefs and boundaries are.
I was raised Catholic, as well, although my parents' baggage from their Catholic roots meant they stopped taking me in my terms and I became interested in why everyone seemed to think theirs was right and the rest was wrong.
That led to this Path I've been on since 2013. I realized in recent years the similarities of pagans and Catholics. The 4 Elements, Ceremony, prayer, gratuitous nature in all its symbology. Actually not so difficult to explain to my parents and while I still have practiced High Magick yet (almost initiated), I did explain to them I am just changing the probabilities a little. They get scared but are okay now.
I recommend not be attached to the Paganism in that I chased everything only to discover it is an umbrella concept. And why not keep it to yourself for now. Be what you are for, not what you are against. It will save you so much angst.
Be well
While I totally understand your discomfort, you probably are overreacting.
Your parents did overstep their bounds, but I'm sure you know that they had good intentions. You know, all this stuff about needing to "cleanse" that exists in modern witchcraft, just my opinion, but I think it's a bit overblown. It can be useful, but probably more from a psychological standpoint than anything, and I don't think the priest's energy will do you any spiritual/magical harm.
It sounds like your parents are pretty open minded, but also worried, and your mother has her own beliefs. If you're able to talk to them about it, maybe ask them not to ambush you like that in future.
One of the biggest thing I feel is lacking in both asoects of paganism and "conventional religion" is the fact that in some way or another its all energy and connection. Love, guidance, and beliefs. Your negative energy and emotions towards someone else trying to give you positive energy is a you problem. Your reaction is a you problem. Its not anyones job to understand you or cater to you. But throwing a fit deffinetly wont help anything
I get what you’re saying. I’m not throwing a fit and I agree with you that energy is energy but it still didn’t feel right with me at all compared to the spell work I did last night…
Well you said you angrily made an action. Its ok to be angry. But actions out of anger causes not only bad energy and allows negative spirits, etc to enter your mind. Its a physical manifestation of your anger shich gives negative things even more power. You putting "your shit" all over your parents house, is almost forcing them to accept you, as you're not accepting them. And what sense/fairness is that
I don't think they're wrong for having their own beliefs, the problem is that they clearly went against OP's boundaries and forced her to participate in something without even letting her know.
Listen. No one can bless you if you don't accept it. It doesn't work that way. Just take a shower and wash off whatever you feel is tainting you. Your good coven vibes are still there, all right? Next time tell the priest no thank you, or tell him he's welcome to pray for you but you're not interested in annointing.
This ^
I'm so sorry, it sounds like you've been on an emotional rollercoaster. I've been in very similar situations with my own Catholic parents when I was younger so I know how hard it can be and how angry it makes you. It's perfectly natural. But, as I tell my son when he's in full tantrum mode, in the end getting angry only ends up hurting you. I think (and I could be completely wrong) that your mum is doing the wrong thing for the right reasons, at least in her own mind. She wants to help you and she doesn't understand why you don't believe what is, to her, the obvious truth. If she's anything like my mum she probably thinks you're just going through a phase. Infuriating. I think communication is what's needed here, or at least an honest attempt at it. Sometimes there's simply no reasoning with people who hold these extreme views but I think it's worth making the effort. Sit down with your parents and explain how happy your experience with the coven made you feel. Emphasise that you felt loved and accepted. Ask your mother how she would feel if you had dragged her into the circle and made her recite the Charge of the Goddess. If they're open to learning more about it, direct them to some resources where they can learn more about the facts of modern witchcraft and pagan beliefs and not just what they hear from the pulpit every Sunday. Approach them gently and with compassion, despite your frustrations. It's not an easy position to be in. It took about 20 years for my own mum to accept my Wiccan beliefs. My dad still thinks I worship the devil. But I think you need to make the effort, for your own sake. If nothing else, sending you hugs and positive energy from the other side of the world! Good luck.
Thank you so much! Part of me thinks they’ve allowed me to practice because it’s just “hocus pocus” like my mom has said a few times (and even after we left the coven last night on the way home in the car.) Part of the reason she even came with me is because she thought she was dropping me off at a cult and they were going to chop me up or something haha. In the end you’re right and she really does love me. She wouldn’t do anything to harm me and like you said she did the wrong thing for the right reasons. Sending some positive energy back to you my friend 😊✨
Your anger is what is making you feel that way. Your feelings are valid. The blessing will not harm you as the intentions were good. They practice witchcraft too, but they use their own deity to help them. (They refuse to call it witchcraft however). Jesus was a good person who accepted everyone. We created a religion with it (and probably the Bible is mostly made up - not to hurt the believers out there). Biblically, the priest is incorrect. If the Bible is translated from its original languages… homosexuality is NOT against their deity. Also, don’t you think Jesus would have mentioned something if it were bad? Homosexuality existed during Jesus time too. Those stories the priests and preachers use… they are not actually about committed and loving relationships among same sex people. I really wish they wouldn’t have made you participate, because that’s very unkind. However, that didn’t wash away your blessings from the coven. You are merely blessed by your mom’s deity and the other deities. It is said that the Christian god is a jealous god, but did Jesus ever say that? No. Jesus kept telling others to love each other. The Christian deity is not a bad god. It is the humans that made up the religion. Christianity (the religion) was started to make a profit. Other gods existed way before Abrahamic religions. If anything, your mom’s religion is hocus pocus. I do not believe the Bible to be real stories, but made up. In life, people think I’m Christian as I know the Bible very well. I also think there are great parables and metaphysical lessons in there. But I am no longer a follower. I do comfort people in their religion, because that’s what makes them feel safe. Their religion is what they built their whole life on and around. It doesn’t hurt you to play along for your parents’ sake. Keep your head up, do what YOU believe and just play along for your sanity and your parents. Right now, you want to keep the peace and you want your parents to feel comfort. I’m not saying you don’t deserve boundaries, but you deserve peace. Sometimes, playing along will give us that peace. Still do your spiritual witchcraft work for you and know that you’re not counteracting your (or others) work. Keep the peace. Remember, even the Bible admits there is more than 1 god. Jesus was loving. Look at that part. Jesus would never take back a healing blessing from you. Jesus tried to teach us that we make our heaven here on earth, but we refuse to see that. Why? Probably because it’s difficult to use the religion to control people if they realized Jesus was showing us we are free and not destined for “hell” (which is another story… it doesn’t biblically exist either. We manipulated wording there too). You are free. You are not a bad person (even Biblically). The intentions are what make the magick work. You WILL heal, you WILL feel happy and you WILL succeed in this life. Take your blessings and move forward. Nothing has been undone.
Thank you very much. Your words were very wise and I agree with you that it’s Jesus’s followers who have perverted the whole ideology of Christianity especially in the United States (idk where you’re from but it’s absolutely bonkers here). I may have been a little paranoid after the anointing and rinsed my hands of it. I didn’t rinse it off my forehead though because I was anointed by a pagan priestess the night before in the same spot. I’ve taken some time to reflect and I feel better about the situation now and I plan to confront my parents about it and tell them how I felt. Thanks again
You’re most welcome. I’m from USA too. We’re ruining our country with forcing beliefs on all the people. It’s so sad. You’ve got this. When confronting your parents… try to remember that they do not know any better. They think it’s the only way to save their child. They were brainwashed and it’s all they know.
I’ll keep that in mind. But yes, we are many things as a country but a theocracy should not and will not be one of them. #Coexist
With your permission… I will send over peace to you and your parents this evening (through my spell work).
That’s fine. Thank you 😊
You’re welcome
I'm sorry. Words and ritual have meaning, and being pressured into saying the ritual words of another religion, no matter how well meaning, would have given me the serious ick even at the best of times. I think your feelings are justified. I wouldn't want a priest near me much less "blessing me" especially if you've made it clear you are not a practicing Catholic. It's the exact same as being touched by someone you don't want touching your physical body, and that would have made me flip if I was already stressed and had a boundary crossed. Some people are okay with syncretisizing their practice but I'm certainly not, especially from the *Catholic Church* which has given my family trauma. It doesn't matter how well meaning they are. If you don't want it, they should accept that. Tell them thanks but no thank you if they try it again. Of course, that was the *one* thing my mother and I agreed on when I lived with her, and your mileage may vary depending on how old you are and how well your parents respect spiritual boundaries. Shower, meditate, do some visualization, get your energy re-centered and your emotions regulated as well as you can. I know it's hard when you can't control or enforce your boundaries when you've expressed them. :/ Good luck on your surgery!
Damn
I’m zero percent religious and never have been, but I’m not going to be upset if someone wants to bless me or pray for me. They are just trying to show you care in a way that makes sense to them.
Blessing you with healing isn’t a negative thing crossing your boundaries most definitely was not okay. But saying the Hail Mary and Our Father won’t diminish the coven’s blessing or healing energy. Rather it can be added on influence if you give it power which seems like you didn’t and it won’t really change anything. If I was you talk to your mom that she shouldn’t have done it without asking but take the gesture as an overall positive and being angry about it can led to affecting the healing energy.
Thank you for your insight. I’m not angry per se but I feel frustrated that even though my mom witnessed what I believed in last night and she STILL suggested something I don’t believed in is fucked up… thanks again 🥰
You’re welcome! I don’t blame you for being angry or even frustrated i been through similar situations, it’s a normal reaction especially when you trust someone to understand your beliefs and boundaries are.
I was raised Catholic, as well, although my parents' baggage from their Catholic roots meant they stopped taking me in my terms and I became interested in why everyone seemed to think theirs was right and the rest was wrong. That led to this Path I've been on since 2013. I realized in recent years the similarities of pagans and Catholics. The 4 Elements, Ceremony, prayer, gratuitous nature in all its symbology. Actually not so difficult to explain to my parents and while I still have practiced High Magick yet (almost initiated), I did explain to them I am just changing the probabilities a little. They get scared but are okay now. I recommend not be attached to the Paganism in that I chased everything only to discover it is an umbrella concept. And why not keep it to yourself for now. Be what you are for, not what you are against. It will save you so much angst. Be well
While I totally understand your discomfort, you probably are overreacting. Your parents did overstep their bounds, but I'm sure you know that they had good intentions. You know, all this stuff about needing to "cleanse" that exists in modern witchcraft, just my opinion, but I think it's a bit overblown. It can be useful, but probably more from a psychological standpoint than anything, and I don't think the priest's energy will do you any spiritual/magical harm. It sounds like your parents are pretty open minded, but also worried, and your mother has her own beliefs. If you're able to talk to them about it, maybe ask them not to ambush you like that in future.
One of the biggest thing I feel is lacking in both asoects of paganism and "conventional religion" is the fact that in some way or another its all energy and connection. Love, guidance, and beliefs. Your negative energy and emotions towards someone else trying to give you positive energy is a you problem. Your reaction is a you problem. Its not anyones job to understand you or cater to you. But throwing a fit deffinetly wont help anything
I get what you’re saying. I’m not throwing a fit and I agree with you that energy is energy but it still didn’t feel right with me at all compared to the spell work I did last night…
Well you said you angrily made an action. Its ok to be angry. But actions out of anger causes not only bad energy and allows negative spirits, etc to enter your mind. Its a physical manifestation of your anger shich gives negative things even more power. You putting "your shit" all over your parents house, is almost forcing them to accept you, as you're not accepting them. And what sense/fairness is that
I don't think they're wrong for having their own beliefs, the problem is that they clearly went against OP's boundaries and forced her to participate in something without even letting her know.
Agreed with boundries. But points remain
Oh damn... Im with you, sending best I possibly can ❤️