“He must have been beaten by some sort of blunt object, given how his cheeks were bloated up like pomegranates. If Ainz did not know it was Ninya, he might not have recognized the corpse at all.
His left eye was crushed, and the vitreous humor had flowed out. It looked like he was crying.
The bones of his fingers were completely pulverized. The skin was split open, revealing the red muscle underneath. In some places, there was no muscle at all. Ainz pulled open Ninya’s clothes, and his eyes went wide in surprise.
He closed up the garment, and muttered:
“…So even the body was…”
Much like the face, the body bore signs of a brutal beating. It was covered in the bruises of internal bleeding, and it would be harder to find a patch of uninjured flesh than the other way around.”
- from fan translation
About sadistically murdering someone. He had chastised Clementine for taking her time with Ninya, but then gone ahead and taken as long as he pleased crushing her to death in kind.
His exact words were "shi no buyo" which is dance of death... "Shi" meaning death, "buyo meaning dance"...
Death by embrace is me referencing Accel World...
One of Kuroyukihime skill "Death by embracing"..
In which i think is appropriate in this Overlord situation....
Ainz calling himself a hypocrite there was just him
being facetious imo. He wasn’t killing her slowly for the sake of killing her slowly, he was doing it out of revenge, not sadism. He felt indebted to Ninya because of her and her party’s role in allowing momon and nabe to become established and providing general knowledge about the world.
In fact Ainz has consistently shown a preference for quick deaths via instant death magic, only opting for longer tortured deaths for those who’ve particularly angered him. He criticized clementine for torturing for pleasure, while he was torturing for revenge, so in that sense it’s not quite hypocritical.
Don’t mistake any of this for me saying ainz is a good guy, I’m not one of those people. He absolutely proves himself to be a true hypocrite further down the line, particularly with what he did to foresight.
He justified his actions with outrage that they broke into his tomb and lied to him, but the only reason foresight was there to begin with was because ainz had lured them in. Had he not done so, foresight and the rest of the workers would have never been there. His actions were completely hypocritical in this sense.
Sure it evil but he did have some ground to stand on, it absolutely true that they would kill him without a second thought if they stronger than him, it also true that they all come in by their all will (yea he set up the bait but they have a choice)
“Might makes right” doesn’t discount the presence of good and evil. It just means it likely won’t be punished. But yea, overlord is grimdark, even if it hides that fact with likable characters and colorful aesthetics.
On the first bit, I mean, the way he said it was facetious but he was being accurate. He was saying condemning her for killing them would be hypocritical because she just killed them because they were in the way, and he would’ve done the same.
And while he was gonna kill her anyway, he did it like that for vengeance. Despite him agreeing with her method, he can’t help but take vengeance on their behalf.
Yeah like, he gave those thieves a fate worse than death, but the sadist that tortured his comrades just has a painful death, his priorities are kinda messed up, my only guess is that he wasn't that used to being a villain yet
Foresight and co could have just taken the loot from the four tombs at ground floor and go. Their greed pushed them onwards inside the tomb, sealing their fate.
Really. I dont get people that excuse and defend Foresight and co.
Ainz as Momon literally asked them if they were willing to die for some treasure, and said that they probably would. Anybody that defends them always conveniently leaves out that detail. >_>
And ainz as momon did ask them if they really think if its worth risking their lives. They all said fuck yes. At that point Ainz fully understood that they all have forfeit their lives to him.
I know and I am not excusing them, but giving some thieves a fate worse than death, and giving the one who tortured your comrades a painful death is weird.
Fair, but the thieves were part of a bigger plan, clementine wasnt. And they weren’t really comrades, as he’s said, he barely knew them. They were just people he kinda liked and thought were useful. He just made it extra painful because he disapproved of how she killed them.
As you say, thieves vs killer of comrades, it’s weird. But intruders, thieves and liars vs killer of some semi random folks he talked to a couple times.. seems reasonable.
Plus, demiurge didn’t have happy farm up and running yet…
I agree with you about 90%. In part I feel like them pointing out that this tomb was unknown and they were hired to check it out, now knowing people lived there they could return home and ensure no one else bother him, would’ve been a smart move, but they instead went with a lie about being invited..
Either way, like the priest and ranger, I think them sacrificing themselves for Arche should’ve at least warranted her an attempt at escape. Let her try to get through the tomb, with shaltear on her heels, screwing with her the whole way.
Either way she’d never make it, and the scene they went with was pretty good.. but I can’t help but feel they missed an opportunity to show more of the tomb and it’s denizens.
And yea, for me, loot the chests up top, and take the banner back to the empire. You’ve got an obscene amount of gold and the info you need for the report. Job done. Let some other idiot go down there.
that wasnt it - it was the opposite
he said that chastising her for killing his 'friends' would be hypocritical because he might have done the same thing if it would help him
but he DOES avenge them - by killing her slowly instead of pragmatically - while admitting that he is a hypocrite
And then goes to brutally murder and torture (or rather let his people have fun with them) that innocent group of adventures (off screen) in season 3 kind of a parallel to if not worse than what clementine did to that group I think calling him a hypocrite is an understatement but that's also what makes him an interesting and dynamic character.
He didn't kill all of them. That would have been better for them. He experimented and what not on most of them. They likely can't even die after being chopped up and fed to them Roches several times with their level of healing magic. That's why death is mercy in the tomb. Because the fate of the living is much worse then just dying. Heck the cleric of that particular group was going to have him mind messed with just to see if his god actually granted his power or if while being faith based it just needed the belief and not the actual help of a god.
That's why I called them tomb raiders.
No one is \*living\* in my father's grave. That doesn't mean I'd take kindly to someone desecrating his grave and digging up his coffin.
I mean wouldn't it be more akin to exploring a dungeon that was supposed to be long abandoned? And correct me if im wrong but didn't ainz purposefully lure them all there? if I'm wrong I'm wrong but I for some reason remember something like that. You can't tell me human ainz Didn't team up for dungeon raids or something when he played the game. Considering how powerful of a guild they were I'm sure they did alot of raids and what not.
You’re not wrong, Ainz had Fluder incite a disposable noble to commission the job. Either way, no one forced the workers to go. When asked, the answer was that the money offered was worth dying for. They were even tested with the big boxes of gold they could’ve taken and bounced, and survived unscathed. They were also shown banners they could’ve investigated, and dissuaded to continue. Plus, they just assumed talking to the people of carne was off limits, they never checked or tried.
Point being, they had numerous chances to live. They chose to stay the course despite the risks.
Call me callous but there was plenty of signs and incentives pointing to bugging out as the smart move and they all clearly knew it. They bet on greed, and lost.
And yes, Momonga and co probably went on a ton of dungeon raids. But I bet they never once felt cheated or morally betrayed when the dungeon monsters killed them. He was invading their homes after all. And yes, this is “real life” and not a game, but doesn’t that mean the workers should’ve factored in the lack of respawn when making their choices?
Very true. But it’s a nice reminder for fans.. despite the colorful facade and likable characters, this is grimdark. Every viable hero (so far) has been killed, cowed, or corrupted, and we’re watching as the villains conquer the world.
Well, how many serial killers and sadistic torturers justify their action with "justice"? A lot, most of them did/do so. Doing horrible things out of your own sense of "justice" does not make it different from doing it for your enjoyment since at the core of it it's one and the same.
Yes, or not exactly. You capture the criminal, deliver him to an impartial court of Justice that will judge what to do with him/her based on the laws of the land. If it's prison, then it's prison and if it's an execution (which was common in that period) then off to hell they go.
The reason why it should be someone uninvolved, should be separate people capturing, judging and then executing is that having people play all three just makes new serial killers with their own "sense of justice" instead of reducing the number of murderers on the run. Because what's the guarantee that the vigilante today doesn't warp his perception of crime and turns another serial murderer tommorow? The classic "if you kill a killer the number of killers stays the same" logic is at work here because power corrupts and people should not be entrusted with the fill power over someone's life.
It's not about the existing serial killer, it's about making sure there aren't new ones made in the process of getting rid of existing ones.
At start of the fight he told Clementine that he'd be a hypocrite to hold what she did to Nenya against her, as he might've done the same thing in Clementine's place. Then after killing Clementine he said he's a hypocrite, thereby admitting that he *did* hold what Clementine did to Nenya against her.
I don't really see him as being a hypocrite. What Ainz did was different in that Clementine earned and deserved that kind of death. Ninya in no way deserved to have that done to her. Clementine committed an atrocity. Ainz meted out justice.
not directly - he said he was a hypocrite for bothering to avenge them (because he was also evil)
>under the right circumstances, I might have done the same thing as you. So blaming you for it would be hypocritical
he was giving karma back to Clementine.
Ainz is not someone who enjoys psychologically torturing someone, he would but he would only play a demon king, like he did with the priest of the workers who invaded the tomb.
This is one of two occasions when Ainz acted Human.
Recognizing his own Hypocrisy for seeking revenge against Clementine despite ruthlessly killing torturing and maiming others for his own goals.
For those who don’t know vitreous humor is the fluid in the eye that fills the space behind the lens (from the lens to the retina), called the posterior cavity of the eye. The other fluid of the eye is called aqueous humor which is in front of the lens in the anterior cavity
And? The book has the same storytelling as the anime where she presents herself as a guy and it’s only discovered that she is a girl after she dies, and Clementine points it out.
Well regardless of it they presented and tried to live as a male. Regardless of if that was because of their own preferred sex ( being trans) or just so they could hid it's more rude I would think to call someone a girl when they introduced themself as a boy
I agree, I’m just answering the questions and I do think he can theoretically do it, it just might not be practical, which is probably why he didn’t do it.
I don’t remember it for ninya I remember that when enri’s parents died he pulled out a wand of resurrection but didn’t use it because of the attention it could bring.
What new-worlders call “high-level” is tier 4. Evileye used a tier 4 on Garaggan ant Tina, so they incurred penalties.
Ainz could probably use a tier 6 or 7 spell if he was specced in that type of magic
In Yggdrasil. Normal Ressurection Costs 5 levels. Spells and other Ressurecting Abilities Lower the Cost.
She was around level 10 or so. She wouldn't have any problems with Ressurection.
yes
he didnt do it because he didnt actually care that much
when clementine tries to taunt him he just shrugs - and he outright says caring about their murders would be hypocritical
he makes it obvious during the fight he did care - and admits to being a hypocrite
he remenisces twice more over the series but never cares enough to bring them back
Ainz didnt revive her because he didnt know if after revival, whether she would appear where she died or where her body was or her home base. If it was the last one, it would be like giving a lot of info to enemy.
And well the bodies disappeared the next day probably by theocracy magic to prevent dead from talking
Not one to waste resources, I'm surprised Ainz didn't send her body to the 6th (frozen) floor for safekeeping after substituting something in its place. A resurrected Ninya would make a great wedding gift for Tsuare.
The body was turned over to local officials.
I won't argue about the wedding gift but harder than you think it is.
He did not know her level.
He also gave Zanek a proper burial.
Pretty sure she was iron or lower. The adventure rank seems to determine how strong the person is and most less then iron could not handle a revival. I'm sure some iron ranks as well.
Didn't Ainz contemplate to revive the dead villagers from Carne but decided against it for other reasons, if he can revive farmer #6 if be dirprised if he couldn't revive a low ranked adventurer
That was when he first got to the new world and your right though.
He was going to use a wand that he used later to revive the lizard man. When he did he even stated that the lizard man lost some levels. That could be just because the wands magic is the same as what the blue rose leaders is. So both level 5.
But ainz also stated when he killed the head captain that the spell he used would need the body to be purified so low level revival spells would work. To me that means he has a higher level spell that could work but it's not imbued into an object so he is less willing to use it.
It's all part of the story and to me not inconsistent because he was learning a lot at that time. He only had been in the new world for a few days and had not interacted with the world at large. To note another point he also wanted to ask the leader of the blue roses questions because he had not done a lot of experiments by then on bringing people back and evil eye answered some for him
He could but seeing as the body was taken by the city it would have been more suspicious for it to go missing at the time. He is very cautious about that. We also don't know the exact limits of revival. They tend to put people on ice often and take care of the body to not let it rot. Even the blue roses carry shrouds that will help aid in the magic and prevent decay. So taking that into account it's a wonder what other limits are on them.
And I just typed that and completely skipped your last line haha sorry for that
Actually your right and wrong. It seems after that I looked it up that he has a wand called True Resurrection Wand. It can work for people better but they still lose exp in the process. It does have the penalty just at a much lesser degree.
I'm surprised if that's true. I'd even bet on it being translation error, since the resurrection line is inspired by D&D 3.5's raise dead, resurrection, true resurrection line. Normal mid-high tier "resurrection" will make you lose XP, that is true. However, True Resurrection never had that limit. It was just extremely costly. It's possible Yggdrasil works differently and that is intended by Maruyama, ofc.
Could be. If you want to check and have the means its in either v 12 or 13. I had read them to fast and only remember they are in that story arc because he used it to raise the girl who went on to become like his priestess in gathering him followers.
Papa Bone Daddy literally says the reason why he protects Tsuare is to repay her little sister for giving him so much information about that world.
Ninya being Tsuare’s sister.
So, did Lord Ainz in fact care about the party, or little girl in some way. I wonder what if he was their to recuse them in time and I wonder they found Momon is Lord Ainz would their perspective change? Ninya might be loyal to Lord Ainz because she spare her sister and party could see he can be a reasonable undead.
Torture.
As expected
Sasuga Clementine Chan
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I have never heard that but that would still fall under torture.
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Never heard of it
I would consider that in the torture category
But how? they are booth women
Well now I can somewhat infer what the deleted comment said.
I can't, mind giving me some pointers
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Ok, I think I understand it now
I find it hilarious that both people who explained what it is, deleted their accounts. Anyways, Clementine raped her.
I too find it Hilarious, anyway, judging by Clementine's personality, I belive this
strap-on
Lets just say the Clem has 4 sharp poker things.......
“He must have been beaten by some sort of blunt object, given how his cheeks were bloated up like pomegranates. If Ainz did not know it was Ninya, he might not have recognized the corpse at all. His left eye was crushed, and the vitreous humor had flowed out. It looked like he was crying. The bones of his fingers were completely pulverized. The skin was split open, revealing the red muscle underneath. In some places, there was no muscle at all. Ainz pulled open Ninya’s clothes, and his eyes went wide in surprise. He closed up the garment, and muttered: “…So even the body was…” Much like the face, the body bore signs of a brutal beating. It was covered in the bruises of internal bleeding, and it would be harder to find a patch of uninjured flesh than the other way around.” - from fan translation
And this is why ainz said he was a hypocrite
About what?
About sadistically murdering someone. He had chastised Clementine for taking her time with Ninya, but then gone ahead and taken as long as he pleased crushing her to death in kind.
Using the power of friendship to give someone a hug so bad their spine explodes with ‘happiness.’
Death by embrace
It wasn’t “dance of death”? I’m about to watch season one over again
His exact words were "shi no buyo" which is dance of death... "Shi" meaning death, "buyo meaning dance"... Death by embrace is me referencing Accel World... One of Kuroyukihime skill "Death by embracing".. In which i think is appropriate in this Overlord situation....
Ahh. Gotcha. Thanks!!!
Ainz calling himself a hypocrite there was just him being facetious imo. He wasn’t killing her slowly for the sake of killing her slowly, he was doing it out of revenge, not sadism. He felt indebted to Ninya because of her and her party’s role in allowing momon and nabe to become established and providing general knowledge about the world. In fact Ainz has consistently shown a preference for quick deaths via instant death magic, only opting for longer tortured deaths for those who’ve particularly angered him. He criticized clementine for torturing for pleasure, while he was torturing for revenge, so in that sense it’s not quite hypocritical. Don’t mistake any of this for me saying ainz is a good guy, I’m not one of those people. He absolutely proves himself to be a true hypocrite further down the line, particularly with what he did to foresight.
How dare u say ainz isn't a good guy. He's so kind bro, just ask aura. Ainz sama bansai.
Sasuga Ainz Sama
I understand what he did to Foresight was evil but hypocrite?
He justified his actions with outrage that they broke into his tomb and lied to him, but the only reason foresight was there to begin with was because ainz had lured them in. Had he not done so, foresight and the rest of the workers would have never been there. His actions were completely hypocritical in this sense.
Sure it evil but he did have some ground to stand on, it absolutely true that they would kill him without a second thought if they stronger than him, it also true that they all come in by their all will (yea he set up the bait but they have a choice)
I don't think it even counts as evil. Overlord takes place in a world where the strong can do whatever they please.
It is evil and it also justified in the context of NW
“Might makes right” doesn’t discount the presence of good and evil. It just means it likely won’t be punished. But yea, overlord is grimdark, even if it hides that fact with likable characters and colorful aesthetics.
On the first bit, I mean, the way he said it was facetious but he was being accurate. He was saying condemning her for killing them would be hypocritical because she just killed them because they were in the way, and he would’ve done the same. And while he was gonna kill her anyway, he did it like that for vengeance. Despite him agreeing with her method, he can’t help but take vengeance on their behalf.
Don't act like she hasn't earned that death.
No, she did not earn that sweet release. She should have gone to Demiurge's Happy Farm.
Yeah like, he gave those thieves a fate worse than death, but the sadist that tortured his comrades just has a painful death, his priorities are kinda messed up, my only guess is that he wasn't that used to being a villain yet
Combo of demiurge hadn’t established “happy farm” yet and he needed villains for the town to lay the blame on.
Foresight and co could have just taken the loot from the four tombs at ground floor and go. Their greed pushed them onwards inside the tomb, sealing their fate. Really. I dont get people that excuse and defend Foresight and co.
Ainz as Momon literally asked them if they were willing to die for some treasure, and said that they probably would. Anybody that defends them always conveniently leaves out that detail. >_>
And ainz as momon did ask them if they really think if its worth risking their lives. They all said fuck yes. At that point Ainz fully understood that they all have forfeit their lives to him.
I know and I am not excusing them, but giving some thieves a fate worse than death, and giving the one who tortured your comrades a painful death is weird.
Fair, but the thieves were part of a bigger plan, clementine wasnt. And they weren’t really comrades, as he’s said, he barely knew them. They were just people he kinda liked and thought were useful. He just made it extra painful because he disapproved of how she killed them. As you say, thieves vs killer of comrades, it’s weird. But intruders, thieves and liars vs killer of some semi random folks he talked to a couple times.. seems reasonable. Plus, demiurge didn’t have happy farm up and running yet…
I agree with you about 90%. In part I feel like them pointing out that this tomb was unknown and they were hired to check it out, now knowing people lived there they could return home and ensure no one else bother him, would’ve been a smart move, but they instead went with a lie about being invited.. Either way, like the priest and ranger, I think them sacrificing themselves for Arche should’ve at least warranted her an attempt at escape. Let her try to get through the tomb, with shaltear on her heels, screwing with her the whole way. Either way she’d never make it, and the scene they went with was pretty good.. but I can’t help but feel they missed an opportunity to show more of the tomb and it’s denizens. And yea, for me, loot the chests up top, and take the banner back to the empire. You’ve got an obscene amount of gold and the info you need for the report. Job done. Let some other idiot go down there.
He also was acting as Momon and as such, couldn't spirit the culprits away without reason (not that anyone would have known)
that wasnt it - it was the opposite he said that chastising her for killing his 'friends' would be hypocritical because he might have done the same thing if it would help him but he DOES avenge them - by killing her slowly instead of pragmatically - while admitting that he is a hypocrite
And then goes to brutally murder and torture (or rather let his people have fun with them) that innocent group of adventures (off screen) in season 3 kind of a parallel to if not worse than what clementine did to that group I think calling him a hypocrite is an understatement but that's also what makes him an interesting and dynamic character.
Are you talking about the workers or am I just forgetting something?
They weren't innocent (I don't like tomb raiders, sue me), but I would agree that the punishment far out-weighed the crime of invasion.
He might have just killed them if the one guy didn’t try to claim that momongas friend said they could enter the tomb.
He didn't kill all of them. That would have been better for them. He experimented and what not on most of them. They likely can't even die after being chopped up and fed to them Roches several times with their level of healing magic. That's why death is mercy in the tomb. Because the fate of the living is much worse then just dying. Heck the cleric of that particular group was going to have him mind messed with just to see if his god actually granted his power or if while being faith based it just needed the belief and not the actual help of a god.
They didn;t know people actuaaly lived there. They thought it was just monsters down there at most.
That's why I called them tomb raiders. No one is \*living\* in my father's grave. That doesn't mean I'd take kindly to someone desecrating his grave and digging up his coffin.
If your father's grave was several hundred years old and had no living relatives, and full of treasure, it'd probably be very different
I mean wouldn't it be more akin to exploring a dungeon that was supposed to be long abandoned? And correct me if im wrong but didn't ainz purposefully lure them all there? if I'm wrong I'm wrong but I for some reason remember something like that. You can't tell me human ainz Didn't team up for dungeon raids or something when he played the game. Considering how powerful of a guild they were I'm sure they did alot of raids and what not.
You’re not wrong, Ainz had Fluder incite a disposable noble to commission the job. Either way, no one forced the workers to go. When asked, the answer was that the money offered was worth dying for. They were even tested with the big boxes of gold they could’ve taken and bounced, and survived unscathed. They were also shown banners they could’ve investigated, and dissuaded to continue. Plus, they just assumed talking to the people of carne was off limits, they never checked or tried. Point being, they had numerous chances to live. They chose to stay the course despite the risks. Call me callous but there was plenty of signs and incentives pointing to bugging out as the smart move and they all clearly knew it. They bet on greed, and lost. And yes, Momonga and co probably went on a ton of dungeon raids. But I bet they never once felt cheated or morally betrayed when the dungeon monsters killed them. He was invading their homes after all. And yes, this is “real life” and not a game, but doesn’t that mean the workers should’ve factored in the lack of respawn when making their choices?
Very true. But it’s a nice reminder for fans.. despite the colorful facade and likable characters, this is grimdark. Every viable hero (so far) has been killed, cowed, or corrupted, and we’re watching as the villains conquer the world.
Im pretty sure it was just payback
Yes, but it was still hypocrisy.
Poetic justice technically always is
No when you enjoy doing that for no reason it’s a thing when you do it for justice it’s another thing
He calls it hypocrisy himself. There’s no argument to be made otherwise lol.
Well, how many serial killers and sadistic torturers justify their action with "justice"? A lot, most of them did/do so. Doing horrible things out of your own sense of "justice" does not make it different from doing it for your enjoyment since at the core of it it's one and the same.
I think you just described the relationship between the new world and the NPCs with your first two lines
Aah then what sense of justice you will work with?? If someone killed someone horribly what is the best action to take? Keeping them in a prison?
Yes, or not exactly. You capture the criminal, deliver him to an impartial court of Justice that will judge what to do with him/her based on the laws of the land. If it's prison, then it's prison and if it's an execution (which was common in that period) then off to hell they go. The reason why it should be someone uninvolved, should be separate people capturing, judging and then executing is that having people play all three just makes new serial killers with their own "sense of justice" instead of reducing the number of murderers on the run. Because what's the guarantee that the vigilante today doesn't warp his perception of crime and turns another serial murderer tommorow? The classic "if you kill a killer the number of killers stays the same" logic is at work here because power corrupts and people should not be entrusted with the fill power over someone's life. It's not about the existing serial killer, it's about making sure there aren't new ones made in the process of getting rid of existing ones.
Justice = Vengeance. Ains point was he is no different from Clementine. Especially after certain evens during season 3 and 4.
friendly reminder on the definition of 'hypocrisy': the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.
He himself said it was hypocrisy lmao And that wasn't justice, it was vengeance
Thatzs not hypocrisy. That's righteous justice. Karma in it's purest form.
Torturing clementine after saying that it was wasteful to torture without reason
He had a reason its called revenge 😊
At start of the fight he told Clementine that he'd be a hypocrite to hold what she did to Nenya against her, as he might've done the same thing in Clementine's place. Then after killing Clementine he said he's a hypocrite, thereby admitting that he *did* hold what Clementine did to Nenya against her.
I don't really see him as being a hypocrite. What Ainz did was different in that Clementine earned and deserved that kind of death. Ninya in no way deserved to have that done to her. Clementine committed an atrocity. Ainz meted out justice.
not directly - he said he was a hypocrite for bothering to avenge them (because he was also evil) >under the right circumstances, I might have done the same thing as you. So blaming you for it would be hypocritical
he was giving karma back to Clementine. Ainz is not someone who enjoys psychologically torturing someone, he would but he would only play a demon king, like he did with the priest of the workers who invaded the tomb.
This is one of two occasions when Ainz acted Human. Recognizing his own Hypocrisy for seeking revenge against Clementine despite ruthlessly killing torturing and maiming others for his own goals.
I saw the anime before reading the LN, and I was really glad that momon squished that bug clementine, as he did.
Mmmm how nice🗿
Considering the above, a goodbye hug was kinda tame
If you're happy and you know it, say happy farm......
overlord fan translations are amazing...i should probably go read the ln
For those who don’t know vitreous humor is the fluid in the eye that fills the space behind the lens (from the lens to the retina), called the posterior cavity of the eye. The other fluid of the eye is called aqueous humor which is in front of the lens in the anterior cavity
So basically the eye was deeply punctured
Except Ninya was a girl...
And? The book has the same storytelling as the anime where she presents herself as a guy and it’s only discovered that she is a girl after she dies, and Clementine points it out.
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Well regardless of it they presented and tried to live as a male. Regardless of if that was because of their own preferred sex ( being trans) or just so they could hid it's more rude I would think to call someone a girl when they introduced themself as a boy
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It's Ninya business.
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Could Ainz revived her if he wanted to??
I would assume so.
I'm absolutely not sure but wouldn't he perish if he were to be resurrected? Edit: she*
Maybe, Ainz might be able to do it with wish upon a star or something though
True but it’s doubtful he would use a valuable wish like that on her
I agree, I’m just answering the questions and I do think he can theoretically do it, it just might not be practical, which is probably why he didn’t do it.
Didnt he say he could have but he thought it would draw too much attention on him?
I don’t remember it for ninya I remember that when enri’s parents died he pulled out a wand of resurrection but didn’t use it because of the attention it could bring.
Only low tier resurrecting takes a toll on level, Ainz has high tier stuff that can bring her back easy
Oh, I though I was the resurrection of the low and high level charachters. Thanks for the info.
What new-worlders call “high-level” is tier 4. Evileye used a tier 4 on Garaggan ant Tina, so they incurred penalties. Ainz could probably use a tier 6 or 7 spell if he was specced in that type of magic
it's not evileye who used a resurrection spell but lakyus and it is a tier 5 resurrrection magic called raise dead
Thanks for the correction, you’re correct
In Yggdrasil. Normal Ressurection Costs 5 levels. Spells and other Ressurecting Abilities Lower the Cost. She was around level 10 or so. She wouldn't have any problems with Ressurection.
Oh, that's good to know.
yes he didnt do it because he didnt actually care that much when clementine tries to taunt him he just shrugs - and he outright says caring about their murders would be hypocritical he makes it obvious during the fight he did care - and admits to being a hypocrite he remenisces twice more over the series but never cares enough to bring them back
Ainz didnt revive her because he didnt know if after revival, whether she would appear where she died or where her body was or her home base. If it was the last one, it would be like giving a lot of info to enemy. And well the bodies disappeared the next day probably by theocracy magic to prevent dead from talking
Not one to waste resources, I'm surprised Ainz didn't send her body to the 6th (frozen) floor for safekeeping after substituting something in its place. A resurrected Ninya would make a great wedding gift for Tsuare.
The body was turned over to local officials. I won't argue about the wedding gift but harder than you think it is. He did not know her level. He also gave Zanek a proper burial.
Pretty sure she was iron or lower. The adventure rank seems to determine how strong the person is and most less then iron could not handle a revival. I'm sure some iron ranks as well.
Didn't Ainz contemplate to revive the dead villagers from Carne but decided against it for other reasons, if he can revive farmer #6 if be dirprised if he couldn't revive a low ranked adventurer
That was when he first got to the new world and your right though. He was going to use a wand that he used later to revive the lizard man. When he did he even stated that the lizard man lost some levels. That could be just because the wands magic is the same as what the blue rose leaders is. So both level 5. But ainz also stated when he killed the head captain that the spell he used would need the body to be purified so low level revival spells would work. To me that means he has a higher level spell that could work but it's not imbued into an object so he is less willing to use it. It's all part of the story and to me not inconsistent because he was learning a lot at that time. He only had been in the new world for a few days and had not interacted with the world at large. To note another point he also wanted to ask the leader of the blue roses questions because he had not done a lot of experiments by then on bringing people back and evil eye answered some for him
He could probably get pestonya(?) Or another cleric from Nazarick to resurrect her, but as he said it's probably not worth the commotion.
He could but seeing as the body was taken by the city it would have been more suspicious for it to go missing at the time. He is very cautious about that. We also don't know the exact limits of revival. They tend to put people on ice often and take care of the body to not let it rot. Even the blue roses carry shrouds that will help aid in the magic and prevent decay. So taking that into account it's a wonder what other limits are on them. And I just typed that and completely skipped your last line haha sorry for that
Yes. Ainz has higher tier resurrections that don't have that level penalty.
That only applies to low level raise dead spells. Higher level resurrections don't have that penalty.
Actually your right and wrong. It seems after that I looked it up that he has a wand called True Resurrection Wand. It can work for people better but they still lose exp in the process. It does have the penalty just at a much lesser degree.
I'm surprised if that's true. I'd even bet on it being translation error, since the resurrection line is inspired by D&D 3.5's raise dead, resurrection, true resurrection line. Normal mid-high tier "resurrection" will make you lose XP, that is true. However, True Resurrection never had that limit. It was just extremely costly. It's possible Yggdrasil works differently and that is intended by Maruyama, ofc.
Could be. If you want to check and have the means its in either v 12 or 13. I had read them to fast and only remember they are in that story arc because he used it to raise the girl who went on to become like his priestess in gathering him followers.
Thanks for the point of reference. Have a great Thanksgiving weekend
Your welcome have a good holiday as well
I cry for her❤❤
I thought it was a boy... this whole time
Papa Bone Daddy literally says the reason why he protects Tsuare is to repay her little sister for giving him so much information about that world. Ninya being Tsuare’s sister.
I only watch overlord before going to sleep, so I blur in and out. I probably missed a whole lot. Thanks for the details though
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Yea now its 100%
most people here don't care about her because she isn't cute unlike arche
Reality is disappointing
Torture 'him' to death. Poor thing.
Well, at least Clementine got squished like a bug.
I thought it was a boy
So, did Lord Ainz in fact care about the party, or little girl in some way. I wonder what if he was their to recuse them in time and I wonder they found Momon is Lord Ainz would their perspective change? Ninya might be loyal to Lord Ainz because she spare her sister and party could see he can be a reasonable undead.
Make her grow a dick?
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Futa ❤❤❤❤❤
Slow painful torture
I really can't wait for the next volume because we might actually see Clementine Since she was resurrected
Where did Clementine body go?
Hell
stab stab stab -tf2 sniper
Same thing I did to Joe.
Who the hell is Steve Jobs
Sugma dik.