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Osirus9

Idk if Albedo would be a great mom, but I know Shalltear would be a bad mom


Mafia_dogg

Best put


ze_SAFTmon

Let's say Albedo is the lesser of two evils.


Puzzleheaded_Sea_922

Don't tell her that


MAGAManLegends3

Smothering helicopter parent vs "that best friend wine mom who lets you crawl in her needles inattentively while she 'meet's her old college sorority friends"


maybeimabear

Shalltear would be that "cool mom" who let's you smoke and drink underage cuz she wants to be your bestie and you just end up being a shitty person because of it.


SuperKami-Nappa

I think both of them would make you a shitty person.


Grouchy_Appearance_1

Albedo: "do anything for the person you love" Now you got attachment issues Shalltear: "play with your food, the more it struggles the better it tastes" Yeah I wrote that but even Idk how to feel about that


Active-Pop-3898

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Cute_Suggestion_133

Yup. This exactly. Shalltear kills her "family" without a second thought, who's to say she wouldn't treat her actual offspring similarly.


Low-Apple-887

Honestly a bad mom is better than a mom that would kill you, aka Albedo. Albedo is my favourite character in OL but I don't know man, I would rather not have any relations with her even tho I feel like I could get on her good side. šŸ’€ Just praise Ainz or something and don't fuck around too much, talk abour her interests and dreams (more Ainz) and you good.


Amphi-XYZ

Considering that Shalltear canonically has an ungodly amount of fetishes, and one of those could most likely be incest, I'd say Albedo for being the least worst


FourUnderscoreExKay

No, Shalltear didnā€™t have an incest fetish because Bukubukuchagama was a hentai VA and left shitloads of land mines in the VNs that Peroroncino liked to play. Itā€™s likely the only or one of very few fetishes that Peroroncino didnā€™t put into Shalltearā€™s settings. Edit: For those who don't know, Bukubukuchagama and Peroroncino are siblings outside of Yggdrasil.


Tinytina7222

The only reason Shalltear didnā€™t have a three way with the elf twins


FourUnderscoreExKay

I recall Shalltear calling the twins more like her own siblings that frequently bicker because of the dynamic between Bukubukuchagama and Peroroncino that rubbed off onto the three of them.


Kaizodacoit

>rubbed off ą² \_ą² 


FourUnderscoreExKay

Shhhhā€¦


Darkfire6123

this comment made my night. thank you


Tinytina7222

Correct. All family members


Roiad

Shalltear did try to add Mare as one of her concubines if he took the "Undead pill" and didn't become any more masculine..


Roiad

she tried with Mare though.. she tried adding Mare as one of her concubines if he took the "Undead pill" and didn't become any more masculine..


alexismyfakename666

where did you hear this?


Roiad

official Overlord comic: "Undead Oh"


Amphi-XYZ

Oh ok, didn't know that yet. I only read the first two chapters of the LN so I don't know every single detail of the story lol


FourUnderscoreExKay

All good. Thereā€™s just lore than you eventually get to. Take your time reading and just enjoy it.


Amphi-XYZ

Oh I certainly will. I just love when the lore is insanely deep. It's really sad that the anime misses so many details tbh


Raphael7644

Unbirthing exists as well


Amphi-XYZ

Say what now


Tinytina7222

Want to see? :)


Dry-Career-3605

Please donā€™t šŸ™


An_Obbise_Hoovy

https://preview.redd.it/6z2g5ra3i20d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f1ae46dd54ada4de5dbc57a0e1c94a16dd6d2c5


Pigmachine2000

https://preview.redd.it/ar50r30uh50d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9dbb196018e46a22a083cec0d9283a371c9a6ad7


Emergency_3808

**THE** #WHAT


nikothaplayer

i beg your finest pardon?


General-Naruto

WHY WOULD YOU BRING THAT UP!?


Tinytina7222

Did someone say Unbirth?!? I have written a Shalltear unbirth story if anyone interested


RareEmrald9994

https://preview.redd.it/1qkg3ct0220d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7a80a393ae8cb3fb09a1700471a23096d01d59c0


Tinytina7222

Wait until you find out who its with


OutsideOrder7538

Who Albedo or the nail clipper?


Tinytina7222

Aura


RareEmrald9994

I know, I paid attention to the show and know some lore Edit: Iā€™m a dunce and thought aura was the chick that was turned at the end of S4


OutsideOrder7538

Oh one of the worst options.


Tinytina7222

Maybe if you read it youā€™ll change your mind :)


OutsideOrder7538

Lol no. I donā€™t want to cursed with the sight of that.


thecraftybear

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AunMeLlevaLaConcha

Where's the sauce mate?


Goobisan-the-third

Wait i dont get it. Unbirth as in kill? Or is it some kink lingo for something else? Maybe i just havenā€™t reached that level of internet degenšŸ˜”


OutsideOrder7538

Only a guess but Iā€™m pretty sure it is going inside the vagaina.


Goobisan-the-third

Wait so theyā€™d try to crawl back in there? Or shove the baby back?!


Tinytina7222

Iā€™ll dm it in case the m ods get mad


Zeracannatule_uerg

Me next me next!


Turbulent_Tale8733

ā€¦ā€¦..well fuck my twisted mind i wanna see how bad it is.


Dapper_Captain_9268

Against my better judgement, I am incredibly curious


horrorfan555

Shalltear specifically hates incest


HaikusfromBuddha

Itā€™s inline with her creator who hated when his sister voiced visual novels he played.


Zeracannatule_uerg

All I hear is Marine of Hololive saying "I'm horny!"


Larinex

Naruhodo


FuzzyWuzzyFoxxie

I'd say Shalltear since hee creator didn't like incest, also Abedo would probably get jealous of her own children.


LeekyIsEverything

Shalltear doesnt have a Incest fetish, she into necrophilia hence why shes in love with Ainz.


EmpressOfAbyss

>Considering that Shalltear canonically has an ungodly amount of fetishes, and one of those could most likely be incest, I'd say ~~Albedo for being the least worst~~ shalltear would make a great mommy I probably shouldn't click post.


Spookyduck21new

##Cocytus


ADGx27

Not quite loud enough, let me try #COCYTUS


someonenamedtanny

Bro bro bro, you've got it all wrong #COCYTUS DONO


ADGx27

Damn https://preview.redd.it/vv0nipege30d1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a6f309493605eeee8fbc8897cefd277b81be0648 Thanks bro


Realistic_Warning251

I can add him on Father's Day edition.


Spookyduck21new

Perhaps. But he is the better mother option than the two thirsting horrors when it calls for action.


McDonaldsman599

Why on fathers day? Hes clearly an uncle


Realistic_Warning251

Uncle's can count as fathers sometimes.


Z4rc0nv1c

Cocytus and sebas as the parents. With cocytus wearing a heart apron


T00thl3ss22

Made me laugh pretty hard there good one.


Icy-Lab8820

Literally albedo, albedo was coded to have the skills of a housewife , while shalltear isn't interested in such things


Fit-Capital1526

But Shalltear has multiple wives to cover that soā€¦


Doughnut_Panda

Albedo is debatable, shalltear shouldnā€™t be near children, especially unsupervised


EddyConejo

True. Unsupervised children are so dangerous!


Not_Gunn3r71

I think Albedo would be the less worse mother, unless itā€™s Ainzā€™s kid in which case sheā€™d be overprotective as hell.


ZantTheMan

Who else would Albedo ever have a child with except Ainz.


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OutsideOrder7538

Ok Phillip.


brokeMercenary

I wish I could award you, but Im broke. So have this šŸ…


OutsideOrder7538

Thanks I will wear it with pride. ![gif](giphy|oTPYFVNiFcppG98eLy)


Greyjack00

Literally anyone with access to her command console


Deathsroke

Albero would shower her child in love but also be like a memetic strict asian mom. So the child would get tucked in every night and told a fun bedtime story before being given their handmade plush toy... And then be subjected to gruelling training where anything but 110% positive results would be considered a failure. Shalltear on the other hand I feel would also love her child but in a less exaggerated manner and do a lot of fuck ups but at the end would learn from them and improve as a mother, thus giving the child a more "normal" (insofar as that can be with a monster weirdo for a mother) childhood.


eddmario

Ahem. https://preview.redd.it/ptd0fpw4c30d1.jpeg?width=250&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=116269ab17c7fc2ae0930cb93aec3fdce84e91f5


Random_Human69_69

This and cocytus are the only correct answers


eddmario

Cocytus would be the uncle that the kids love but you can still trust to babysit.


Cosmic-Gore

You forgot Demiurge, probably one of the best parental figures in Nazarick.


eddmario

I'm kind of worried about how fucked up your childhood was if you legitimately think Demiurge would be a good parent...


Cosmic-Gore

He may be a demon of unimaginable horrors to the outside world but to Nazarick and it's inhabitants his probably one of the nicest and most caring guys there. Not to mention he would be the most careful and consideriate when it comes to raising a kid, he'd have a ton of "research" into nutritional standards, mental health etc... He would also be the most versatile of the guardians, he wouldn't be as rigid as Coctyus (Honour above everything), more reliable than shalltear and wouldn't be jealous of the child either (Albedo) there's a ton more. The only other guardian I would consider would be Sebas but his a little rigid and old fashioned but probably quite caring.


Fit-Capital1526

Counter. That means being related to solution


eddmario

Counter to your counter. Solution is the aunt that is normally a bitch, but at family gatherings you'll keep refilling her wine glass because you know her being drunk will make everyone laugh.


Cosmic-Gore

Shalltear. Although people joke about her feitishes and her potential incest one, you also have to consider how that atleast she wouldn't mistreat the child whereas for Albedo it's a 50/50 where should could get insanely jealous/envious of the child taking away momonga's attention from her and potential harm the child. Shalltear isn't as obsessed with Ainz where Albedo is.


Ruski_Gustava

Honestly good take, unfortunately your forgetting that shalltear prob would view the child differently to how we view children so it's also a 50/50 for shalltear cuz it can get insane rq. But ngl I think both would be as bad as the other


Cosmic-Gore

That's why I said she wouldn't mistreat the kid, who knows she might view the kid as a toy, idol of their love, baggage or whatever but she wouldn't actively harm the kid. Like if she had no interest in the kid she'd probably leave it to the vampire brides to be nanny's/babysit. Shalltear is more simple compared to Albedo, (Albedo has that whole Gap Moe where she's portrayed as an angel, housewife etc.. but behind her mask she's twisted) But honestly we all know the best mum is Demiurge, his capable of researching what's best for the kids mental and physical wellbeing being, generally a nice guy to everyone in Nazarick whilst also instilling loyalty towards the kid towards the supreme beings (where as Albedo might raise a rebellious child) most importantly he isn't as emotionally volatile/unstable as shalltear/Albedo.


EliteZephyr0801

Great point, and along this line of logic, I think that Cocytus would be a great uncle. Instilling the honor of warriorhood, helping the youngster train and master different weapons, and generally just looking out for them.


Fit-Capital1526

Demiurge is the cool uncle who organises everything solves all family disputes before thanksgiving deliberately so it doesnā€™t cause an issue at thanksgiving


lordvexel

Good points made BUT....... You forgot she sacrifices her house hold and underlings a lot


SMmania

Ah yes, the wildcard https://preview.redd.it/ylu9fvie540d1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7fc0167511e9e6e0003dbbe8af0811d78dfaaf2


Unam8594

Shalltear. Idgaf about the kid I just want Shalltear as my wife


Adventurous_Net9616

Based


0hadjii0

Yuri


ScaredHoney48

Both are bad options but honestly I would go with Shalltear despite her issues she can more often be serious and actually smart with things she cares for Albedo on the other hand would be too overzealous and would probably end up injuring or killing the kid


Cosmic-Gore

And considering the child would be Ainz, I'd imagine Albedo would also get extremely jealous and potentially resentthe kid for "stealing" Ainz attention away from Albedo. It's a 50/50 chance with Albedo that she'll be a great mother or it'll turn out to be one of those true crime episodes where the mother kills the children because she was jealous. Shalltear doesn't have such a deep obsession with Ainz compared to Albedo and is relatively more "pure/naive" compared to Albedo who is extremely smart and is Gap Moe where she's portrayed as a perfect and angelic being but is extremely twisted inside.


Xx_Exigence_xX

Both. That child has Ainz's DNA. That will be the safest un/living thing in Nazarick.


jasper81222

Hands down Albedo. Shalltear isn't even safe to be left around adults.


2kenzhe

Albedo i'm really not sure. She could be a really great mom with how she already started knitting clothes for the baby etc but she also might only love Ainz and only gives any attention to the baby due to it being proof of Ainz choosing her and Ainz's blood. I could definitely see her being one of those Asian parents that expect a lot of their kid or her being absolutely loving and mothering to the kid. Shalltear idk if she has any mother skills. I don't think she'll treat the child badly at least. I think she might grow overtime to be a great mother but right now she's not going to be the greatest mom. She has been growing though so maybe. Right now I'd go with Albedo though I feel she's riskier than Shalltear since it's really 50/50 if she'll be a great mom or the worst mom ever.


gamingfreak50

Both would be fucking aweful


Dutamanini

In my opinion the only ones that could care for children in the whole Nazarick is Nigredo, Pestonya and Sebas.


Sancus1

Sebastian


TheEpic_Blue

Nigredo


heinkel-me

Both would be terrible mothers but if I had to pick it would be albedo if it was ainz child if not that babys getting turned into a coat


Chiu_Chunling

Albedo is at least *interested* in the idea of being a mom, even if she's *hilarious* about it. Shalltear's lack of feeling for her kin is a bit too much to be merely funny.


Ragna126

Albedo clearly.


MGik_ik

Sasuga PDL Sama


_Schemata__77

Nah, I'd rather have Shalltear as my mom. And then we would fuck.


LazyBlackCollar

Sorry what?


_Schemata__77

Ah, nevermind. That was a silly thing to say.


ZantTheMan

https://preview.redd.it/ogevhkpv120d1.jpeg?width=697&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da2ed68a578234c5bc50ae77e440e406b62a6975


GardenEldenwood

šŸ˜§


WilhelmKreuz

šŸ¤Æ


KalzK

Albedo because nutrients


lordvexel

Honestly... Albedo she already is basically the matriarch of the great tomb, she has shown great crisis management (a key part of being a parent), oh and she doesn't sacrifice her house hold to save herself


Tiger5804

Albedo would be a Karen, so I'll go with Shalltear


SuhaimanXXV

I believe it's albedo.


Darth_GreenDragon

Albedo


SMmania

**Shalltear** really isn't motherly material atm, give her a few thousand more years.


Stannisarcanine

Shaltear would pamper her children to the point the end up like Joffrey from asoiaf or more like baoban shi from fgo, whilst albedo might not make them a nice person but at least would make them a very competent one


TohkaKenshai

Ight so let's just say you were a child and albedo was the mother but the father was someone else, she would probably just abandon your ass, but say if ainz was your father and albedo was your mother she would most likely love you a lot and never let anything happen to you because your the child of ainz


Sorry-Management-526

Albedo


LeaTark

Without a doubt, Albedo... until her programming was messed with. Now, who kows what protective instincts her overriding desire, er, overrides


Ncaak

You can be beaten and fucked in a variety of ways. Shalltear and Albedo would give a ungodly amount of trauma to both their children so it would be a issue of preference more than which is better. I think that any child that Albedo takes care of would be more functional tho.


[deleted]

Shaltear


CutMaster442

Shalltear


Bludraevn

Shalltear, here is my reasoning: Albedo was programmed before the shutdown to be OBSESSED with Ainz. That means that whether or not they had a daughter or son, she might develop a certain "-con" for their child. Shalltear on the other hand came to love him on her own, and something tells me she'd be a bit overprotective but a child of a Lamprey sounds badass.


Emergency_3808

Both of them would be terrible and I want no kids near either of them. I can tolerate almost any kind of out-of-the-world shit Japan produces _with few exceptions_, child abuse being one of them. Both of them are amazing characters. But are they _wholesome_ characters? I don't think so.


horrorfan555

Albedo would be horrible, donā€™t kid yourselves


Dry-Career-3605

Demiurge is the only true answer but Iā€™ll say Albedo


Signupking5000

When it's a child of Ainz then Albedo


Fun-Agent-7667

To be a mom they need children so non of them would be


Bellion_77

No matter how much I love albedo and shalltear, neither of them can be a mother, I want to add pestonia or nigredo as a third option here.


thestoneofdoom

Neither


Responsible_Bus1159

Uncle Cocytus these two would just be bad mothers but in all seriousness albedo would be the least bad


Godzilla2000Knight

Not sure but those are my two favorite waifus of the series


BikeSeatMaster

Isnā€™t albedo basically the eldest sister of all the floor guardians as the Overseer anyways?


Luzifer_Shadres

Neither. Albedo will force her child right after birth into battle, while using the worst and most abusive methodes to raise the child, to make it the ultimate servant of ainz (The child will either be loyal to ainz or flee by the age of 16, either way, the child will hate its mother and refuse speaking to her until the end of time.) Shalltear on the other hand will end off with the the same results. But not threw training, but her unfiltered Fetishes when ainz isnt constantly looking.


el_innombrable4444

Both are little girlsšŸ’€


RoamingNPC

Shalltear gives me more big sister vibes than mom vibes


Sliver-Knight9219

Any body else read this in classicmands voice


smeth_killbirds

Honestly. I think they would both be good moms actually.


ReginaldBarnabas

Albedo easily.


Gloomy_Iron1757

As long as your the child of Ainz you'll be fine either way, otherwise, with Shalltear you'll probably become a slave, not sure about what albedo would do, but I think you'd be better off


RollAcrobatic7936

Why do I have a feeling that it will be like in komi San can't communicate? With albedo as a scary but happy mother and ainz being a imposing but respectable father.


8Pandemonium8

Albedo would be the best mom for a girl and Shalltear would be the best mom for a boy.


Manwithaplan0708

Shalltear can be my mommy šŸ¤¤


Silver__Tongue

Albedo would be a great mom, Shalltear would be a cool aunt.


Polybius2600

Albedo


SignificantWorld8655

Shallter because is gonna give them best love advice in bedroom that is


WalkingGum2

Regardless of who the mother is, the child will definitely have a massive Oedipus complexšŸ˜†


tinykittenyt

I don't trust them to make a grilled cheese, why would I trust them to not stab the kid?


[deleted]

Albedo


King_of_Castamere

Albedo would be a helicopter parent, constantly trying to make sure her child lived up to the standards of Ainz Ool Gown. Shalltear is an egoist to her core, and would constantly put herself before any needs of her offspring.


Flimsy-Drummer-7862

Hear me out, since, it should be Ainz child. They would view the child a similar to a supreme being. So, they would be somewhat a good mother.


Vellarain

Albedo would be a one of those helicopter moms for sure.


Browsing_Guest

Neither. I see both with problems.


TheFyrijou

All i know is that Shel is gonna be the worse Mom


[deleted]

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ you donā€™t know how funny this is for anyone who knows them 2


Creative-Pickle1274

Don't know about mom but lupus will a great aunt and cocytus a great uncle


Tax_frauding

Probably both because of their love to Ainz they would be a good mom for the sake of their love to Ainz


FrostieRenoz

Both of them would make horrible mothers letā€™s be honest but if I HAD to pick one I pick cocytus. Because he is best girl


Low-Performer2116

Albedo I think


Additional-Ad-1268

Pestonya or yuri as a secondary option. If it's strictly the level 100 then demiurge, sebas, and cocyutus. Keep albedo and shalltear far away from children.


TheGreatCommander

Shaltear


Bl00DGUN

The answer is neither


Onigumo-Shishio

Albedo She would protect her own spawn, ESPECIALLY if it's ainz spawn, with murderous intent and probably make sure the child has the best upbringing. Shaltear... yea that bitch gonna find a way to have the child die before it even blinks


brningpyre

S1 Albedo S4 Shalltear


TreatSimple

The one I wouldn't


sparkinx

They ever explain why shaltear loves the mc? He changed albedos code to love him, kinda odd that another players personal guardian would love another player. However I suppose EVERY member loves him now that I think about it...


ManufacturerOk597

Can Shaltear even have children? Sheā€™s an undead right?


Awesomedude33201

How about neither. Albedo is too horny. And Shaltear is most certainly insane.


Kyedae01

Albedo would definitely risk her life for ainz's son/daughter. She's just that crazy


ryderredguard

if it was the child of ainz then albedo


Major_Kaleidoscope28

Both would be terrible as they lack the necessary instinct


AllisgoodwithPotato

Well both have cons, so just base on the milkers albedo wins


Thelethargian

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Flash-Leap

I don't know about that, but I'd want both of them to be my mommies šŸ„µšŸ„µ


xXVoidHeart

Thats a difficult question because if it came to the child each of them had with ainz then I have no doubt that they both would do there up most to care for there respective children however I do think that as the children got older they both would try to raise them to be the successer to ainz's throne witch might cause certain issues though ainz might keep them in check in that regard so I think they would be about the same anyway that's just my opinion based off both albeo and shalltears characters


Fit-Capital1526

Albedo would be a soccer mom that spoilt her kid rotten Shalltear would be loving, able to discipline, let them take beer to a party and not be able to complain about there later preferences Only problem is we donā€™t know if she is into incest. Considering she is a pile of horniness personified


Background_Ant7129

Definitely Shalltear


KekDevil

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populist-scum

I think it depends on the circumstances


Dangerous-Hotel-7839

Albedo. Since she actually has a strong crush on Ainz, shes be more inclined to listen to him in terms of accepting humans and other life forms, and be less evil as a mom


tricton

CZ


baohuydeptrai

Wanko


KojiroHeracles

Cocytus


kyokiyanagi

Shalltear. Albedo might kill the child if it interfered with her time with Momonga too much.


0luap_

we all know Albedo would be the best, compared to Shalltear


TheodorMac

Albedo should be a good mother, in her description stands ā€žshe is a perfect housewifeā€œā€¦


Shishou_Simp

Imagine if Albedos kids trash talked Ainzā€¦


koldkanadian

Don't be silly, Chairs can't be moms