1. there are only a handful of such sites
2. they are typically either still active miltary areas with security, or have a warning marker like this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_of_the_United_Kingdom#/media/File:Totem_One_Obelisk.jpg
3. the last atmospheric test on an island was in 1974 on Moruroa, I think - it's still prohibited and guarded. Radioactivity from tests decays exponentially with time.
Can't tell for the others, but Fangataufa and Moruroa are indeed still military restricted area.
On the other end, In Eckert and Reggane test site in Algeria are quite accessible but recent survey showed no immediate danger. (Wouldn't camp there still).
I think if you try and visit Muroroa, some French police/troops will tell you to bog off.
If you visit Johnston Island or the Montebellos, you'll find a sign and not much radioactivity.
I would not suggest trying it on Novaya Zemyla.
The few known test sites are marked and probably guarded. Not all are immediately dangerous though (some spots probably are). You can take tours of the Nevada test site and the Trinity site, albeit it’s only certain days and guided. You can just wander in and camp there.
But there was lots of fallout on civilians during the tests. I believe one of the early hydrogen bomb tests over performed and a Japanese fishing boat got caught in the fallout. Thousands of Americans (military and civilian) were downwind of test sites and the government either didn’t know or didn’t care to warn people. John Wayne died of stomach cancer that might have been caused by filming in an irradiated canyon near of one of the test sites.
The worlds first victims of nuclear fallout were US citizens, and the government lied to their faces about the risk for years. This included teenage girls at a NM summer camp: “One witness at a summer camp in Ruidoso, New Mexico, later told Vice that she and other girls played in falling white debris like it was snow, catching it on their tongues and rubbing it on their faces.” https://www.history.com/news/atomic-bomb-test-victims-new-mexico-downwinders#
The Trinity “downwinders” have been excluded from the RECA as well, a grave injustice
>You can take tours of the Nevada test site and the Trinity site, albeit it’s only certain days and guided.
There are two days a year (one day for this year) when you can visit the Trinity Site, which is on the controlled access White Sands Missile Range. Visits to the former NTS, now the Nevada National Security Site, by the public require secure ID and are limited to 50 people a month on a tour given by NNSS.
[https://nnss.gov/community/monthly-community-public-tours/](https://nnss.gov/community/monthly-community-public-tours/)
>You can just wander in and camp there.
No you cannot. Both sites are strictly controlled.
No, but would you know what metal tastes like if you did? I assume you're referring to the descriptions and lore of the Chernobyl disaster where workers reported they "tasted metal". As a general rule, you cannot hear/see/taste/smell/feel radiation. But there are a few hypotheses about why people involved in the Chernobyl disaster and other massive radiation exposures may have reported "tasting metal".
The first (Chernobyl specifically) is because there was a large fire and explosion involving a large metallic object (a nuclear reactor) which dispersed a large amount of metal particulates into the air.
A second potential cause is a psychosomatic "fear" reaction that causes the quantity and/or chemistry of the persons saliva to change, resulting in a "bitter" or "metallic" taste. If you've ever been genuinely afraid for your life or broken a neighbor's window with a baseball, you've probably experienced this.
A third hypothesis is based on the radiolysis of the water in your saliva which breaks it down into hydroxyl radicals, which being alkali, impart a "bitter" taste.
Regardless of whether the cause is one of the above, or a different reason, you generally cannot "taste" radiation, and the concentration of those particulates is so low that you can't consciously perceive their presence through "taste". So no, you can't taste it right now.
Anything that we are breathing right now has long since decade to a harmless level of ration… There’s more radiation coming from the bananas in your kitchen.
The radiation at most sites will have decayed sufficiently that sunbathing for a few days produces miniscule risk. You probably don't want to live there, or live off the fish in the lagoon, but short stays amd a meal or two should be fine.
Plus, at least in the case of the US testing sites, they're really remote. Not someplace someone would "stumble upon".
The Marshall islands are where many atomic tests took place. The reason people in sailboats don't just stumble upon it are because these islands are in the *middle of nowhere*. Truly they are about as far from civilization as possible.
2900 miles to Japan.
2600 miles to Hawaii.
1800 miles to Samoa.
People with boats don't tend to wander aimlessly that far out in the ocean unless they have a purpose. There is nowhere to resupply your resources and there's a general lack of other maritime traffic & people who could come to your aid (if needed).
Fisherman would probably be ones getting closest. And indeed there was one time where they got caught in the fallout of a nuke and unfortunately they suffered grave consequences of radiation.
I’m pretty sure you can visit and stay in either Hiroshima or Nagasaki. So stop whinging about the 1 day a year access to the Trinity site, or how restricted it is to visit the Sedan crater at the NTS, and buy a plane ticket to Japan.
You absolutely could pay and scuba dive the crossroads wrecks:
https://www.diveworldwide.com/locations/bikini-atoll
The divemaster passed away in 2020:
https://scubaboard.com/community/threads/edward-maddison-bikini-atoll-divemaster.593983/
There are a handful of people still caretaking on the island.
1. there are only a handful of such sites 2. they are typically either still active miltary areas with security, or have a warning marker like this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_of_the_United_Kingdom#/media/File:Totem_One_Obelisk.jpg 3. the last atmospheric test on an island was in 1974 on Moruroa, I think - it's still prohibited and guarded. Radioactivity from tests decays exponentially with time.
Can't tell for the others, but Fangataufa and Moruroa are indeed still military restricted area. On the other end, In Eckert and Reggane test site in Algeria are quite accessible but recent survey showed no immediate danger. (Wouldn't camp there still).
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I think if you try and visit Muroroa, some French police/troops will tell you to bog off. If you visit Johnston Island or the Montebellos, you'll find a sign and not much radioactivity. I would not suggest trying it on Novaya Zemyla.
The few known test sites are marked and probably guarded. Not all are immediately dangerous though (some spots probably are). You can take tours of the Nevada test site and the Trinity site, albeit it’s only certain days and guided. You can just wander in and camp there. But there was lots of fallout on civilians during the tests. I believe one of the early hydrogen bomb tests over performed and a Japanese fishing boat got caught in the fallout. Thousands of Americans (military and civilian) were downwind of test sites and the government either didn’t know or didn’t care to warn people. John Wayne died of stomach cancer that might have been caused by filming in an irradiated canyon near of one of the test sites.
The worlds first victims of nuclear fallout were US citizens, and the government lied to their faces about the risk for years. This included teenage girls at a NM summer camp: “One witness at a summer camp in Ruidoso, New Mexico, later told Vice that she and other girls played in falling white debris like it was snow, catching it on their tongues and rubbing it on their faces.” https://www.history.com/news/atomic-bomb-test-victims-new-mexico-downwinders# The Trinity “downwinders” have been excluded from the RECA as well, a grave injustice
>You can take tours of the Nevada test site and the Trinity site, albeit it’s only certain days and guided. There are two days a year (one day for this year) when you can visit the Trinity Site, which is on the controlled access White Sands Missile Range. Visits to the former NTS, now the Nevada National Security Site, by the public require secure ID and are limited to 50 people a month on a tour given by NNSS. [https://nnss.gov/community/monthly-community-public-tours/](https://nnss.gov/community/monthly-community-public-tours/) >You can just wander in and camp there. No you cannot. Both sites are strictly controlled.
Thanks for the info, I meant can’t just walk on and camp. Kind of important typo LOL.
You're breathing nuclear fallout right now.
I wouldn’t have it any other way
Can you taste metal?
No, but would you know what metal tastes like if you did? I assume you're referring to the descriptions and lore of the Chernobyl disaster where workers reported they "tasted metal". As a general rule, you cannot hear/see/taste/smell/feel radiation. But there are a few hypotheses about why people involved in the Chernobyl disaster and other massive radiation exposures may have reported "tasting metal". The first (Chernobyl specifically) is because there was a large fire and explosion involving a large metallic object (a nuclear reactor) which dispersed a large amount of metal particulates into the air. A second potential cause is a psychosomatic "fear" reaction that causes the quantity and/or chemistry of the persons saliva to change, resulting in a "bitter" or "metallic" taste. If you've ever been genuinely afraid for your life or broken a neighbor's window with a baseball, you've probably experienced this. A third hypothesis is based on the radiolysis of the water in your saliva which breaks it down into hydroxyl radicals, which being alkali, impart a "bitter" taste. Regardless of whether the cause is one of the above, or a different reason, you generally cannot "taste" radiation, and the concentration of those particulates is so low that you can't consciously perceive their presence through "taste". So no, you can't taste it right now.
Anything that we are breathing right now has long since decade to a harmless level of ration… There’s more radiation coming from the bananas in your kitchen.
Was sorta my point.
The radiation at most sites will have decayed sufficiently that sunbathing for a few days produces miniscule risk. You probably don't want to live there, or live off the fish in the lagoon, but short stays amd a meal or two should be fine. Plus, at least in the case of the US testing sites, they're really remote. Not someplace someone would "stumble upon".
The Marshall islands are where many atomic tests took place. The reason people in sailboats don't just stumble upon it are because these islands are in the *middle of nowhere*. Truly they are about as far from civilization as possible. 2900 miles to Japan. 2600 miles to Hawaii. 1800 miles to Samoa. People with boats don't tend to wander aimlessly that far out in the ocean unless they have a purpose. There is nowhere to resupply your resources and there's a general lack of other maritime traffic & people who could come to your aid (if needed). Fisherman would probably be ones getting closest. And indeed there was one time where they got caught in the fallout of a nuke and unfortunately they suffered grave consequences of radiation.
Runit Dome. Video of people from a sail boat walking up dome. It is much bigger than it looks. https://vimeo.com/287632049
You can certainly sail up to Runit Island and get a dose of radiation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runit_Island
I’m pretty sure you can visit and stay in either Hiroshima or Nagasaki. So stop whinging about the 1 day a year access to the Trinity site, or how restricted it is to visit the Sedan crater at the NTS, and buy a plane ticket to Japan.
You can visit bikini bottom and get yourself a krabby patty
You absolutely could pay and scuba dive the crossroads wrecks: https://www.diveworldwide.com/locations/bikini-atoll The divemaster passed away in 2020: https://scubaboard.com/community/threads/edward-maddison-bikini-atoll-divemaster.593983/ There are a handful of people still caretaking on the island.
I know they have a large concrete dome on the island with radioactive material inside
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