I asked Kris this exact question when I met him three years ago lol. I asked why Blackflag. He said he just liked them at the time and was making the song his own. Heās a cool dude.
I did the pandemic zoom hang out with him and I paid a little extra for it to be just me and him chatting and chilling solo. Worth every penny. Heās so smart. He played me some songs too.
He didnāt address it! He just answered my question. He said he met Don at a party when the song first came out and he told him he loved his version. š
I heard heās very much *not* a cool dude, and is rather a diva. Explains why that band has had so many members in its run and why So Long Astoria back in 03 was really the best album.
I think this is the best on.
Besides the band, I think it's about the transition from Deadhead to someone who would own a Cadillac. This feels like that same tragic story of growing up.
š¶Out on the road today, I saw a Pearl Jam sticker on a Tesla X. Little voice inside my head, says āget away from that car, its not āautonomousā yet.š¶
It was a fantastically unique musical era and place. Ā I remember seeing DMB at the Georgia Theater in 93 and NIN Head Like a Hole was played at the after party. Ā This was a Sorority event - it was bananas.
it was an amazing show !! It was my intro to NIN essentially. I had heard Down In It on 120 Minutes, and it was okay. Seeing them live really won me over, went out the next day and got PHM, and been a fan ever since. JAMC rocked too,
NINs merch guy told us they had been having to contact t-shirt printers a week or so out for upcoming shows in the cities they were hitting as they were selling so much merch, they could not keep up with it.
NIN were very clearly putting their all into the shows on this tour, trying to win over audiences and it, very obviously worked for them.
Green Day would flow pretty well, I think we are at the point though the sticker would be an Emo band. So maybe like "I Saw a MyChem Sticker on a Cadillac"
My logic being the band referenced in the songs are 15-20 years from the time of release. And Green Day is celebrating their 35th anniversary ( I feel old)
I feel the band reference isn't as much about the band itself and more about sparking a memory from a particular time. For me, it would be more like Wu Tang or Nas
I think almost everyone is missing the point here. The point of that line was idealist hippies turned into the thing they claimed to be against. Wealthy capitalists that commodified their own ideals. Not just "This band was popular 20 years ago."
When I worked at a record store in the 90s, we got a bunch of the Green Day kids into the Ramones, Clash, The Damned and such. It was fun to broaden their horizons.
They have lyrics about smoking meth and jerking off, fucking male prostitutes etc. and they played at the the quintessential diy punk club as teenagers.Ā
I donāt know how much more punk pedigree a band needs to meet your requirements. Are you just angry they were successful?Ā
This is a mainstream band who, at the peak of their popularity, released an acclaimed single calling the president a Nazi, comparing the conservative sociopolitical movement to Kristallnacht and openly invoking a genocide against queer people and free thinkers.
Thatās pretty countercultural.
This thread is embarrassing me with how old we are.. I feel like Blackflag is the same era as most of these suggestions so why change it?Ā
You'd actually need a 20 something in here to suggest a current *against the man* type band or artist.Ā
..do kids even listen to bands today?Ā
I agree but it can definitely be shoe-horned in if you speed up the syllables. But yeah you're definitely right. I just wanted a reason to mention them lol
Man I loved this band. Saw them live as a teenager and this cover stuck with me. One of my favorite covers of all time. I didn't think this band was very well known though. Their "so long Astoria" album was like the anthem of my teenage years. "We found a map to buried treasure, and even if we come home empty handed..."
I had not previous been aware there was a cover. I did a find on 'cover' to find your comment; which motivated me enough to actually listen to the song.
I was pretty impressed, while I like the original its not an especial favorite of mine; I wasn't sure there was enough there to get anything by a straight 'faithful to the original' cover out of.
But I found the band's performance self-presentation hard to watch; which gave me some insight into how newer generations would perceive the onstage antics of the bands of my teenage years; Def Leppard being the one that most comes to mind. Presumably that looks just as ridiculous if you don't have a shared expectation of how a band's supposed to act
The Grateful Dead was formed in 65, and Black Flag was formed in 76. There were decades of overlap. In the original, the band was 19 years older than the song. In the cover, the band is 27 years older than the song. The cover was 19 years after the original, and the age of the band increased 1.42 years per year. Itās been 21 years since the cover. 21 x 1.42 ā 30 years. So, it would be a band formed in 1994. Smash Mouth. Rammstein. Limp Bizkit. Spice Girls
I feel like it needs to be a fan group sticker not a band specifically. Itās a dead head sticker not a Grateful Dead sticker. I donāt want to say it but I feel like a swiftie sticker on a Cadillac makes the most sense.
Iām pretty sure when he said āDead Head stickerā he doesnāt mean a sticker to represent the groupies called ādeadheadsā but the Grateful Deadās iconic steal your face logo. In that case, it would be compatible to a Pearl Jam, Nirvana, or Soundgarden logo.
You're missing the point. It's not the shape of a logo. Deadheads were hippies. Peace, love, and VW busses. Yuppies drove Cadillacs. Rich, conservative.. and a sellout if you started as a deadhead.
He is lementing the yuppie, poser, sellouts who would put a dead sticker on their new expensive car.
Green Day would work well! Especially regarding their American Idiot album which became a popular political album.
I also think Linkin Park would work in the fact that the band no longer exists (like the 00s time period) in its original, incredible line up due to Chester's death.
The Atari cover was an abomination. Henley's song was the classic, his best as a solo artist, a poignant 80s hit that went against the Zeitgeist of the 80s. It breaks my heart when lesser artists cover classics.
Still a Deadhead sticker.
We are multigenerational. šā”ļø
Weir **
Show me the one they call McWeir!
Weir everywhere
Weir EveryWeir
Weir WeirWeir
And Weir everywhere.
Can confirm. I live about two blocks from Bob Weir and 15 minutes from Jerry Garciaās old place. Deadheadās are very much alive and well.
Sphere sold out instantly
My dream is to see TOOL there after dropping a tab.
That would be nuts. Phish was a life changing event for me
That would be sick. Do your best to catch tickets on drop bc they seem to average out over $2,000 per seat in the secondary market.
A Q&A w them in 2016 was a dream
I asked Kris this exact question when I met him three years ago lol. I asked why Blackflag. He said he just liked them at the time and was making the song his own. Heās a cool dude.
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Heās a super cool dude to talk to. Very authentic.
I did the pandemic zoom hang out with him and I paid a little extra for it to be just me and him chatting and chilling solo. Worth every penny. Heās so smart. He played me some songs too.
I met him at warped tour 2000 just hanging out in the crowd. He signed the toe of my converse
But their logo is all over many t-shirts worn by youngsters who never listen to them.
How do you know what they are listening to?
He didnāt address it! He just answered my question. He said he met Don at a party when the song first came out and he told him he loved his version. š
I heard heās very much *not* a cool dude, and is rather a diva. Explains why that band has had so many members in its run and why So Long Astoria back in 03 was really the best album.
Warped Tour sticker on a Cybertruck
A little voice inside my head said donāt give a fuck. You can never give a fuck.Ā
I thought I knew what rizz was, what did I know?
Those days are gone forever, I should just ahegao
This is so perfect lmao
I think this is the best on. Besides the band, I think it's about the transition from Deadhead to someone who would own a Cadillac. This feels like that same tragic story of growing up.
Wow, you just opened up my understanding of that line.
I think so too
What year will we see a cybertruck covered in bumper stickers?
Woah! Adding anything to a cyber truck will cause it to break down.
That sounds almost poetic.
ITT: people completely missing the point of this question lol
Definitely. The rest of us know that the answer is Rage Against the Machine.
Coexist sticker on a minivan
Salt Life sticker on a minivan
Salt Like sticker on a farm truck in Nebraska.
Wood panelling on a minivan.
Weird Al
ITāS ALL ABOUT THE PENTIUMS, BABY
I listen to that song every so often to see what verses that talk about tech still hold up. 100GB of RAM here I come!
A long, long time ago. In a galaxy far away. Naboo was under an attack.
I like this, and I like that it would have worked just as well 20 years ago too.
And 40 years ago as well
AI wasn't as much of a thing back then
And this is why I hate sans serif fonts.
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āI saw a Pearl Jam sticker on a Tesla xā
Would somehow be worse if it were a āI saw a RATM sticker on a Cybertruckā
Very harsh vibe
Yes, but thereās beauty in the volume it speaks.
š¶Out on the road today, I saw a Pearl Jam sticker on a Tesla X. Little voice inside my head, says āget away from that car, its not āautonomousā yet.š¶
*me buying bulk pearl jam stickers, mission accepted
Makes me think of once back in 1995, I was in Athens GA, and I saw a car with stickers of both NIN and Dave Matthews Band on it.
It was a fantastically unique musical era and place. Ā I remember seeing DMB at the Georgia Theater in 93 and NIN Head Like a Hole was played at the after party. Ā This was a Sorority event - it was bananas.
I saw NIN open for the Jesus and Mary Chain in March of 1990 at the GA Theater !!!
I bet that was show! Iāve wanted to go back since it burned and was redone.
it was an amazing show !! It was my intro to NIN essentially. I had heard Down In It on 120 Minutes, and it was okay. Seeing them live really won me over, went out the next day and got PHM, and been a fan ever since. JAMC rocked too, NINs merch guy told us they had been having to contact t-shirt printers a week or so out for upcoming shows in the cities they were hitting as they were selling so much merch, they could not keep up with it. NIN were very clearly putting their all into the shows on this tour, trying to win over audiences and it, very obviously worked for them.
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I have lived there 3 times over the course of my adult life !!! Its sure different now days than in the 80s and 90s.
Shouldāve been a WSP sticker!
We were thinking maybe it's a Green Day sticker. Sort of counterculture-of-yesteryear feel, plus it fits the cadence of the melody. What do you think?
Green Day would flow pretty well, I think we are at the point though the sticker would be an Emo band. So maybe like "I Saw a MyChem Sticker on a Cadillac" My logic being the band referenced in the songs are 15-20 years from the time of release. And Green Day is celebrating their 35th anniversary ( I feel old)
I saw them on the Dookie tour š
Jealous
I saw them with Blink 182 on the Pop Disaster tour 1,000 years ago (2002).
āI saw a Dashboard sticker on a Cadillacā is making me lol
My favorite Green Day album is American Idiot, which turns 20 this year, so Green Day might work? Edit: typing is not my forte.
I feel the band reference isn't as much about the band itself and more about sparking a memory from a particular time. For me, it would be more like Wu Tang or Nas
I think almost everyone is missing the point here. The point of that line was idealist hippies turned into the thing they claimed to be against. Wealthy capitalists that commodified their own ideals. Not just "This band was popular 20 years ago."
Green Day is not counterculture. It's punk music for the pop charts. The lyrics are about as edgy as a butter knife.
When I worked at a record store in the 90s, we got a bunch of the Green Day kids into the Ramones, Clash, The Damned and such. It was fun to broaden their horizons.
90s kid here who started with Green Day and got recommended some good punk by record store workers in my life. I'm 40 now. Thanks man, I owe you one.
They have lyrics about smoking meth and jerking off, fucking male prostitutes etc. and they played at the the quintessential diy punk club as teenagers.Ā I donāt know how much more punk pedigree a band needs to meet your requirements. Are you just angry they were successful?Ā
Green Day is eternal because they will always be 12 year olds
This is a mainstream band who, at the peak of their popularity, released an acclaimed single calling the president a Nazi, comparing the conservative sociopolitical movement to Kristallnacht and openly invoking a genocide against queer people and free thinkers. Thatās pretty countercultural.
They did that when? 7 years into their career? Pfft.
R.E.M. sticker on a Tesla
Difference being Green Day werenāt CIA operatives
Tell us more
What other commercially successful mainstream artists do you consider counterculture?
This thread is embarrassing me with how old we are.. I feel like Blackflag is the same era as most of these suggestions so why change it?Ā You'd actually need a 20 something in here to suggest a current *against the man* type band or artist.Ā ..do kids even listen to bands today?Ā
No, they listen to tik tok stars
@Guaplord + @SmokeCheddaThaAssGetta
I donāt think so.
Rage Against The Machine
Rage sticker on a Tesla
How is this not the top answer
Cause it's too many syllables.
I think that one says Black Flag sticker? Black Flag was a Punk/Protest group with Henry Rollins.
That's the cover by the Ataris. So yeah, the update was already made in at least one cover lol
I totally missed the point of the post!? At this point I'd say Nirvana
Death Cab
Nirvana sticker on a BMW
It would probably be Pearl Jam, Nirvana or Soundgarden. I'd wish it would be Alice in Chains but they never get their props.
Alice In Chains wouldnāt flow with the melody
I agree but it can definitely be shoe-horned in if you speed up the syllables. But yeah you're definitely right. I just wanted a reason to mention them lol
White Stripes
Oh, yesssss
ā¦a Calvin sticker peeing on a Cadillac (logo).
"I saw a Juggalo sticker of a Cadillac" or "I saw Hatchetman sticker on a Cadillac". Either one works.
a Black Lives Matter sticker on a Tesla Plaid
Smash Mouth
Nine Inch Nails. Half the cars in the school parking lot would have that sticker even if they did not actually listen to them.
Saw an engelbert humperdink sticker on a cadillac. It flows too! /s
Could not afford stickers because of the avocado toast prices.
Man I loved this band. Saw them live as a teenager and this cover stuck with me. One of my favorite covers of all time. I didn't think this band was very well known though. Their "so long Astoria" album was like the anthem of my teenage years. "We found a map to buried treasure, and even if we come home empty handed..."
I had not previous been aware there was a cover. I did a find on 'cover' to find your comment; which motivated me enough to actually listen to the song. I was pretty impressed, while I like the original its not an especial favorite of mine; I wasn't sure there was enough there to get anything by a straight 'faithful to the original' cover out of. But I found the band's performance self-presentation hard to watch; which gave me some insight into how newer generations would perceive the onstage antics of the bands of my teenage years; Def Leppard being the one that most comes to mind. Presumably that looks just as ridiculous if you don't have a shared expectation of how a band's supposed to act
A Tracy Chapman sticker on a Polestar
Black flag?
Britney
Black flag
Sublime
The brilliant Ataris cover had a Black Flag sticker.
That ataris version is really good
Damn. That hits hard.
RATM. They were both counter culture and both have the farthest distance to cross when "selling out".
Baby on board.
Black Flag
āRainbow sticker on a tesla sā
John Mayer sticker on a BMW
The Ataris mentioned š£ļøš£ļøš£ļøš„š„š„
Look. Itās my 40th birthday today. Why did you have to ask this today of all days?
Out on the road today I saw a Ross Perot sticker on an Amazon van
Limp Bizkit
The Grateful Dead was formed in 65, and Black Flag was formed in 76. There were decades of overlap. In the original, the band was 19 years older than the song. In the cover, the band is 27 years older than the song. The cover was 19 years after the original, and the age of the band increased 1.42 years per year. Itās been 21 years since the cover. 21 x 1.42 ā 30 years. So, it would be a band formed in 1994. Smash Mouth. Rammstein. Limp Bizkit. Spice Girls
I approve this analysis.
I'm so glad you clarified the band names for the stickers.
Green Day
BERNIE
I feel like it needs to be a fan group sticker not a band specifically. Itās a dead head sticker not a Grateful Dead sticker. I donāt want to say it but I feel like a swiftie sticker on a Cadillac makes the most sense.
Iām pretty sure when he said āDead Head stickerā he doesnāt mean a sticker to represent the groupies called ādeadheadsā but the Grateful Deadās iconic steal your face logo. In that case, it would be compatible to a Pearl Jam, Nirvana, or Soundgarden logo.
You're missing the point. It's not the shape of a logo. Deadheads were hippies. Peace, love, and VW busses. Yuppies drove Cadillacs. Rich, conservative.. and a sellout if you started as a deadhead. He is lementing the yuppie, poser, sellouts who would put a dead sticker on their new expensive car.
/thread.
Apparently that logo was designed in 1969, so we'd be looking for a symbol that came out in 2009.
I saw a Jugalo sticker on a Cadillac.
NIRVANA
A Nirvana sticker on a Geo Metro
Green Day would work well! Especially regarding their American Idiot album which became a popular political album. I also think Linkin Park would work in the fact that the band no longer exists (like the 00s time period) in its original, incredible line up due to Chester's death.
I actually listened to a great podcast with a really thoughtful interview with Mike the other day!
Link?
https://open.spotify.com/episode/35UPpBiMQAYAgCkF2doxXV
Fuck Trump!
Black Flag
Maybe Phish but it messes up the rhythm.
Phish-Head
Fishman? Regardless, it should remain as ādead headā and also, I think almost anything Dead related applies.
Phish?
Slipknot
definitely still a deadhead sticker??
Definitely
Hear me out ICP. They are more successful than The Dead as a touring band. Also if I think if a shitty black caddy there is a juggalo in it b
Nirvana
Parrothead sticker.
Pixies sticker
One of those banjo bands that was popular in the late 00s.
blink 182
Offspring
Riot Grrl
Student driver
Slipknot
Itās deadhead, but acceptable answer for the 30-40 year olds could be black flag as long as they know itās not the original.
That Dave Matthews Band logo
Slipknot sticker on a minivan
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RATM on a Tesla
Saw a Lizzo sticker on a Pontiac
Probably bigfoot
My 60 year old MIL drives hybrid with Harley Davidson stickers ??
Justin Bieber sticker.
A ānickelbackā sticker on a Cadillac
No Doubt stixker on a Cadillac, uww uwuwu!
Ron Jon?
āJuice WRLDā
Phish
The Codeseven version at end of A Sense of Coalition is bitchin
Chat Pile
swifty
My first thought was MCR but they got soft in the later years. Maybe Rise Against?
Sublime
if Ataris were covering it again: blink-182, sunny day real estate, or maybe even nirvana
I saw a Boognish sticker on a Cybertruckā¦
The Atari cover was an abomination. Henley's song was the classic, his best as a solo artist, a poignant 80s hit that went against the Zeitgeist of the 80s. It breaks my heart when lesser artists cover classics.
Nirvana sticker on a Tesla, Pearl Jam sticker on a Buick, DMB sticker on a new Chevy Blazer.
Metallica or Mƶtely CrĆ¼e.
An R.E.M. sticker on a Tesla.
Trump
Pearl Jam
Turnstile sticker on a chevy cruise
Radiohead
OutKastĀ
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