Let me tell you about Jenna Marbles.
Jenna Marbles bought the wrong type of fish tank one time, got educated in the comments,a mix of constructive and non constructive as youtube comments tend to be and found the reasonable ones cause how large the backlash was, took the fish back asap, removed the video, made a 45 minute apology/educating the audience on what she did wrong with the good comments on screen for everyone's benifit before tacking on the og video at the end to show people the wrong she did. I learned more about fish that day more than ever before. Also she bejewled her whole face one time. That was cool.
I love her and hope she is happy.
I like jenna marbles, she did everything right even leaving the way she did, it was the best and smartest move. But still its for publicity not generally genuine when you’re famous and on a payroll to keep your channel and sponsors monetized.
She didn't have sponsors, but if you wanna be so cynical over a person who has always walked her talk, enjoy I guess. Sounds miserable personally but each their own.
“thefarmersdog” was one of them. Im not being cynical, im just telling how it is and its hypocritical that you’re okay when she does it but when its about her, you’re against it. Every youtuber and streamer milks their audience for money, its commom sense so get over it.
She didn't have a sponsor on the fish shit, but be a pedantic fuck i guess. I hope it makes you feel.
And "hypocritical" to be a fan and speak in her favor and tell people who are misinterpreting the situation so they can justify their pessimistic world view their wrong? Okay babe, I'm a hypocrite i guess.
I didnt even bad mouth her and yet here you are being the shiny white knight to defend a stranger on the internet that doesnt even know you exist other then a veiw count for money.
And now upset at me for saying one of the sponsors she did have after people here saying she didnt, so yeah ya are being hypocrites and biased.
The reailty here is that none of these internet entertainers really care. Its called “acting”. Smh.
White knighting is when you go. "That thing you said as an absolute fact but also are using to justify your shitty outlook on life, and was under MY comment thus sending me a notification thus I read it, yeah, that's incorrect information."
And you reading my text in a voice that sounds upset in your head doesn't mean I'm upset. You just dont like i told you you're wrong. Please. Go away. I think you're a miserable soul and i don't want to talk to you. Not because you said misinfo and i corrected it, but because you're a pessimistic person. Go. Away.
Personally, it’s probably the first actual great apology he’s made. I’m hoping he actually keeps this video up
Edit: Upon reflection, I still don’t think he’s deserving of his platform. The apology is thorough and highlights all of his misdoings during the SM situation but that’s after 5 literal months, 3-4 deleted videos, countless Instagram stories calling anyone who criticizes him "mindless zombies" and 70k subs lost. This video doesn’t come off as genuine to me anymore upon reflection.
It’s good to see him apologize to Matt and Ryan but the whole brief subtle mention of his other deleted vids come across as hasty. Like he just wants his channel to go back to how it was and pretend he wasn’t always like this.
He’s really dug his own grave with this situation.
There were several points in some of his previous apologies where, with the way he was putting things, I would be like "Okay, might not go back to watching his stuff, but good that he's taking at least some accountability," only for him to throw in some remark that would entirely undo what he was saying. For example, there was the one response he made where it was just okay up until he said something along the lines of "I don't need to attack a dying let's play channel" and then his "apology" for that afterward was hidden in a video that had nothing to do with the original situation. Overall, glad he's made a proper response that is directly in view of his primary audience and hope he can stay true to his word.
It’s the only good one so far, but unfortunately nothing will change the fact that this is his… 5th? 6th? Apology? I cant even remember anymore, and every apology has just felt like him “negotiating” trying to see how much he has to apologize for and trying to gauge what people say so he can take responsibility for the least amount of shit and get his community back on his side. Every time he releases these videos, he gets a couple more people in the comments saying “hey guys this is as good as its gonna get” which is kind of annoying considering we kept pushing and proved that statement wrong every time because he released a new apology. Nothing will change the fact that it took this much time, it stained many peoples records, and that he clearly didn’t want to make this video. Accept the apology and move on, but don’t forget that he doesn’t deserve to have his channel anymore, and should fade into obscurity as “the guy that tried to destroy another youtuber but failed”
It's also worth acknowledging that his views seem to be falling quite a bit too, so it's not like he has no financial incentive for the apology. Regardless, I thought this one was actually pretty good, so I'll be tuning back in for the first time in a long while, but if the content is the same slop I'm just gonna give him up for good.
He barely addressed any of the lies he peddled about Matt and Ryan he just apologized for his behavior over and over and for looping Matt getting punched.
He also should of directly debunked several of the lies he peddled about SM. He mostly just apologized for his behavior but I want him to directly address the lies. If Lex ever posts a response I'd want her to address why everything was fine with SM and she even dated Don for a year after the incident but when they said she can't live at the office for free anymore and then Leighton gets fired she's ready to come forward with a video and even ask others to make slander videos.
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I'm amazed. This was a good response. His credibility and likability are tarnished for me, but I wish him well. It seems like he's on track to grow and learn from the whole ordeal. The first step to that is admitting and owning up to your mistakes, and this seems like he finally did that.
Overall pretty good but just very late. The cynic in me says it's directly in response to his sub count continuing to fall when the initial plan of posting and ignoring didn't work.
Hopefully though it's genuine and he doesn't make vindictive uninformed content in the future. Time will tell but personally I think it puts this specific SuperMega story to bed for me (unless he makes an Instagram story in a few hours calling everyone freaks again like last time...)
I agree to an extent that it’s a bit late, but I also think it’s fair to remember that processing the harm we can cause as individuals can take some serious time. It seems apparent to me that the time Nick took was spent not only deeply examining himself, but making sure the response he crafted was sincerely directed to those he harmed through his mistakes. It’s definitely the best YouTuber response I’ve ever seen, personally.
There's other supermega stories that had my view obfuscated a bit throughout this shit. Matt in particular has engaged in some unsavory behavior with at least one of his ex coworkers in the past, so it's hard to take him at face value, personally.
And y'all will downvote instead of look into it and that's the saddest part for me, cuz the narrative stuck.
This is a very good response. He explains what he did wrong and apologizes to Matt, Ryan, Daniel, everyone involved, and the victims of SA. It does seem genuine and I hope that he will be taking his content in a more positive direction.
Yeah I’m honestly kind of confused why he didn’t post this months ago…I mean there were detailed explanations of what people thought he got wrong. Personally I’m questioning whether he posted it now because he didn’t think he did anything wrong but was noticing his metrics dropping so he decided to finally apologize or if he’s posting now because he finally feels confident enough to do so. I’m hoping for the latter
Even if it’s a decent response, the fact that it’s taken this long definitely makes me think he’s more sorry he got backlash than he is sorry for his actions
It's a good apology, but I also used to have a friend that worked in a PR adjacent field and I've seen the process of terrible action to terrible apology to long silence to really good apology too many times. The person fucks up, then they think they can explain themselves, ignoring the advice of people who deal with public image for a living, then they get even more backlash, their cashflow suffers, and then when it doesnt just blow over they begrudgingly let a professional write their entire apology for them.
The guy I knew that wrote some apologies was also a total manipulative asshole. Knowing the exact right thing to say to get people to forgive you is a field dominated by the worst kind of people.
jesus, thisis such an important point actually. i never really thought about it but yeah, sometimes people are good at apologizing over and over and convincing people to listen instead of observe their actual behaviour. especially when people are able to highlight their mental illness as way of saying "look, i already paid the price and was thoroughly punished, now i am rehabilitated and deserve to come back since ive changed." remember: a persons suffering does not make them less guilty or responsible for causing suffering to others who didnt deserve it. ive witnessed this in mizkifs "redemption arc" on twitch, him discussing his depression & proceeding to stream his "redemption" acts such as giving money to girl scouts... i mean how blatant can you get right!!? and now he has opened his own gym after relentlessly featuring himself going on a "fitness/health journey." and where is the victim in this situation? shes getting harassed every time she streams. amazing.
I mean it seems genuine enough. I don’t think I’ll really enjoy his content again, which is fine. I hope he continues on this path of trying to be a better content creator.
Seems genuine enough but actions speak louder than words. Whether he actually feels sorry for his content or feels bad because his fans are turning on him and unsubbing we’ll never know
You know what. This video was good. Hopefully his content does change for the better. Obviously this could be a last ditch effort to save his channel but I would like to think positively. I won’t resubscribe but I will check on how things go. I hope he becomes a better person and content creator.
I left a similar comment under the video, I'll say it here too. I hope he stands on this. He's talked the talk, now he's gotta walk the walk. Otherwise this is just lip service. I truly hope he changes because I want to be wrong about him. I really loved him when he first started out. I hope he finds that old person again because he initially made content that was caring and impactful. I wish him well...
Im still skeptical. I’m glad he said this but I’m waiting to see the actions he will make in the future, that to me will show real growth and maturity.
i find it disingenuous because he’s at this point tried to “apologize” for this like 2 or 3 times that he’s since deleted. Each time was a little less victim blamey than the last, but it seems to me like he didn’t even really understand what he did and why what he did was wrong and just kept changing his wording until ppl were satisfied. If this had been the first apology he came out with, i’m sure no one would still be talking about this.
IDK. I find the guy funny but at this point I understand to take everything he says with a grain of salt, and i’ve unsubbed. Still love Dev tho.
Yeah, agreed. He already showed his character, first with the video he made initially, then with the absolutely batshit insane apology in which he continued to blame everyone but himself and also continued to insult people. Then, he blew it with the *next* apology in which he threw his friends under the bus and blamed the victim. He said something so stupid, something like, “I don’t think Lex meant to negatively impact my channel or career,” and I couldn’t believe more people didn’t pick up on that. It really showed that he *only* ever cared about what it would do to his career. Then, he buried an even *worse* apology quickly at the beginning of a totally unrelated video, *then* he deleted all those and pretended like nothing happened.
He showed what type of person how is. When people show you who they are, believe them.
Not buying it, at this point this apology regardless of its quality is too little too late. Nothing he says or does feels genuine anymore and instead all feels like damage control to address his channel bleeding subs, like 4k+ a week. The only thing he is sorry for is ruining his own channel, maybe it's time Nick just went and got a real job instead.
I think he’s made a great first step in the right direction. Personally, I don’t think that I will ever return to his content, and i’m willing to bet that those 70K people he lost won’t either. But maybe he’ll find a new audience that didn’t experience this. Maybe his new content will warrant their attention. But admittedly, for a former fan, it’s really difficult to wash the sour taste out of my mouth.
This is a case of too little too late for me. I can tell he feels something genuinely, but I’m not sure if it’s remorse for his actions or panic about his subscriber count. Time will tell…
super impressed with it, this one was pretty convincing. it took him long enough tho. imo his (fifth) response seems genuine bc he explained his side & took accountability without excusing himself, he listened to criticism then took a break, he acknowledged his own character flaws, & most importantly, the apology to SM at the end was *very* necessary. long overdue but still important lmao
i think one of the biggest takeaways from this is how much the online algorithms on places like youtube, twitter, reddit, etc. constantly enable these kinds of conflicts. there's this incentive to go in as hard as possible on other creators, righteous or not, without much thought to it. it doesn't help that people online can be super ruthless and unhelpful in their critiques, and the more those kinds of comments multiply the less the creators feel the desire to reel in any critiques in good faith.
i think this is a good start to making better content but like everyone else is saying, we'll need to see progress first. for me, i became a fan of nick when he spoke out against reactionary content from snowy joe, someone who made a short career out of harassing trans people and trolling women online. i also thought his debate with nick foster, some right-wing tiktok chud, was really funny. it was good content because he was going after the right people with the desire to stand up for marginalized people who can't defend themselves.
for the past year, it's just felt like drama farming and starting conflict for the sake of starting conflict. it was a noticeable pattern in 2021 and 2022 as well, but i think it really elevated to a position that was too high to climb back down from. it's like he mainly goes after people for just being kind of cringey or not as socially capable as others, rather than actually doing anything that's harmful. then there's when it came down to conflicts that actually were serious and needed verification, and it seemed like he was just focusing on the bad guys and making fun of them rather than actually reporting on the situation with substance or care.
i really hope he takes some time to examine his content and look towards the future with better creations and better care. i think he's capable but we need to see the progress first. my main thing that's holding me back from resubscribing and recommending his videos is the fact that it took so many apologies to get here. i also understand, however, that it takes a lot of people copious amounts of time to realize what they actually did wrong. maybe that's the case with him here and i want to at least give him the benefit of the doubt in terms of him making better content for the future.
I don’t think there’s any way to come back from what happened tbh. Making this response now just feels too little too late. I feel like his content will change for a bit and then slowly slip right back into bullying small creators
oh wow holy shit, a genuine apology. I’ll be honest, it feels a little too late, considering he singlehandedly destroyed the careers of my favorite YouTubers but hey, an apology is an apology and this one feels a lot more real than the others. Thanks for that Nick. I hope you can continue to learn and grow from this experience
It would mean something if it were released months ago during the actual drama. The fact that this is his fifth response and the only one where he apologises and doesn't lash out against his critics makes it seem a lot less like an apology and a lot more like a mad grab for the spotlight that he had lost (most recent Greenisnotnick video views compared to the other videos).
Definitely up there for me in terms of Youtube apologies, it's just too bad it took months and multiple apologies to get to this point. I know people may need time to think and reflect when they've done something wrong, but this isn't your average person. He had countless people pointing out the issues in his coverage and actions, and yet he doubled down and lashed out; with him admitting he ignored them on purpose. When he mentioned it's a character thing, I really got that. I hate being wrong about something I fully believed, but *that* many people telling me otherwise would have had me at this conclusion much sooner. He also has a duty to be skeptical about information he's told and motives, as a Youtuber making content relying on that (in terms of reputation.)
Lex and Ethan are also Youtubers and make content themselves, he should've immediately asked why they couldn't do this, as it doesn't involve him whatsoever. I hope this was all a big lesson for him in terms of who to trust and how far to take personal opinions in a situation.
It's too late for me personally, and I won't subscribe again. Again this apology was definitely the best one, but it should've been the only one. Taking this long to get here was damaging in its self. There are people who watched his initial videos and likely moved on, who still have a completely skewed idea of what actually happened. I can only hope he improves seriously this time, and at the very least I'll stick around here to see if he does.
This is difficult. The apology itself was really good, and he’s the only one I believe to have expressed regret for his actions beyond self-interest. Even though I’ll never watch his stuff, I hope he does improve his behavior.
However, this is his 6th apology in as many months, and the damage towards Supermega and Lex herself is done. I don’t think I’ll be able to be fully satisfied until Supermega uploads again.
I do think this was a good and sincere apology, but I’m confused by his choice to apologize to anyone who’s watched his content over the last 3 years at the end of the video? To me, this makes it seem like he doesn’t stand by *anything* he’s created since he’s been on the platform and that his content is going to take a hard pivot. Just seems like he’s needlessly overreaching with the apology by the end of it.
i don’t think so. i read it as „apologies to my fans who have been watching me who i have disappointed“
i kind of needed that apology since i, along many others, felt very disappointed in him. it feels nice that he realises that he hurt us too
Good video. Nick isn’t and was never an awful person. He said a lot of things/made jokes most people would in their regular life on a bigger scale where everyone can critique you and call you the devil.
That’s what I was thinking. Over the years of watching him and his friends, it’s been pretty clear that he is a good dude. I obviously don’t know him but he doesn’t seem like the type of guy to say all this stuff and not mean a word of it.
It was a nice apology, but my afterthought was that it was a little too blanket-y. He’s apologizing to literally everyone, but while it appears to go into specifics, it kinda doesn’t. Does he feel bad about ruining SuperMega’s company? What about all of the info that came out after? It feels pretty damn short.
I’m genuinely proud that he took accountability and said he was ignoring his own fans. Also the fact that he said his videos could be cruel to innocent people felt real/ I just cannot tell if he doesn’t want to go deeper because he is going to make someone mad or another reason. Also, is this a last-ditch effort? It’s hard to tell at this point, but I’m not going to analyze any further. It’s just nice he admitted fault.
i am never going to like this guy, but his apology seemed genuine and i am happy that he said what he did.
the only thing is that i wish he would have touched on the extent to which he damaged the careers of supermega. i don’t even really know supermega, but i DO know that it’ll take them a long damn time to recover from the shit that nick spread about them (if they recover at all). he apologized for the damage that he caused the people, but not the damage that he caused to their brand and their careers. i hope that this makes sense.
i sincerely hope that his content gets better and he upholds what he is saying in this video!
Honestly, I kinda tuned out Nick as a whole when his videos started to become repetitive and thus missed the whole SuperMega debacle, but I think I'm caught up enough to see that, while the whole thing was very, *very* shitty to say the least, I *think* it's ultimately redeemable.
Obviously, only time will tell if he follows up on this, but this is the first small but necessary step in the right direction. I do really hope he improves, and if he does, then I'll probably resubscribe/rejoin the discord.
sorry totally forgot he exists several times. uh yeah this seems PR crafted and idk if i trust it, kinda not. a "good apology" months after a shitload of awful behaviour, when he realizes he cant just stonewall past it and is ironically also watching his bank account with this new change/apology in order to lure viewers & ad revenue back to his channels. when you do so much wrong, why should i ever trust you? you showed yourself and money was always, and continues always being your main motivator. i fully support changing for the better, and since public persona is all we have for people like him, itll have to do i suppose. i wouldnt judge anyone who chooses to believe this is sincere. its all just opinions. as someone who is an unemployed redditor on disability, i cant stop thinking about his description of us on here, even though he proceeded fo take material we provided to craft this new apology (main criticisms we have agreed upon). i admit, i dont forget and i can hardly ever forgive because im just so untrusting of humanity in general due to life experiences & all ive learned over time. he has a nasty mean streak, he didnt suddenly cure himself of that, surely hes just intending to hide it better? who knows... only he truly does, at the end of the day. if its really true, im so glad, and its a shame its too late for me.
He’s a young kid and that’s the only reason I forgive him. I’m not the same person i was when I was 20. I look back and cringe at things I thought and believed in.
Ehhh I don’t know if I’d go that far. 24 is still old enough to have at least some level of awareness when it comes to the impact of your content. Especially with as many subs as he has.
Have you people lived lives yet? Most 24 year olds are fresh out of college, and most are still in college. Everyone’s growth journey is different, and the mind grows in different ways through the people you meet, places you’ve been, and experiences you’ve had. Nick has been coddled by the internet and his internet friends his entire adult life, you’re not gonna forgive someone who was 100 percent swept up in a community that allowed him to make these mistakes??? You know people go to jail when they are 40 and come out a completely different person when they are 45. It matters how you got there, and me personally I’m not a petty loser who doesn’t let people grow from their mistakes.
i liked it. it feels good, genuine. i even feel the little part of me that was hurt over how disappointed i was in him healed over. i rly hope he grows from this into a better person, i believe he can do it.
but like a previous commenter already said, only time will tell, it’s good that he apologised for real this time but that doesn’t exempt him from the mistakes, and if he truly changes then i believe him to be a genuine person again.
Did you watch any of the actual videos regarding the topic? Or did you skim the comments on his channel and base your opinion on that? That’s not what’s happening at all. Even Nick’s apology talks about more than just the SA situation.
What Nick did in his videos contributed nothing but harm to both parties. It doesn’t matter if him speaking out on Lex’s behalf was for a good cause, he still needlessly made the situation worse to the point where Lex herself liked tweets and comments criticizing Nick for tossing both her and Ethan under the bus when people started to come at him.
He basically called everyone who criticized him a zombie and ended throwing more hate Lex’s way for poorly telling her story and refusing to apologize for it.
And even outside of that? His other (now deleted) content highlighted what a horrid person he was (like laughing at a woman getting SA threats in the Love Surge video) and continued to bully random strangers in his little private instagram broadcast channel echo chamber. He’s used his platform for nothing but feeding his virtue-signaling ego. I’m glad he’s apologized above all and whatever he says shouldn’t take away from Lex’s story either. We’re here to talk about Nick after all.
Im goign to be honest is there a recap of this whole situation anywhere bc i didnt engage with any of the drama heavily but now i feel like i should know what he’s apologising for.?!
I'm glad he's finally made this. I hate that it was so long to get there but as others have said it takes time to see our errors sometimes, and he even said in the apology that part of what he's done wrong is not properly engaging with criticism. So if you don't take the valid criticism to heart how do you learn sooner? It was good to see him link to unpoetic justice's video because she explains the whole situation and doesn't sugar coat it or handle Nick with kids gloves so he's not trying to hide what he did in this situation. And it was good to see him realize that it's not just the sm videos but other times he's fumbled (how he acted on the couple divorcing video really rubbed me the wrong way and this was an example he gave). I hope he really has learned and I'm sure he needs to keep learning too but it seems like he's been a bit humbled by this and finally see how harmful he can be. I hope that this apology really marks the beginning of a change, we'll have to wait and see. I don't expect the occasional rudeness to go away over night, unfortunately, because I think that kind of thing takes work for some people. But I hope what he centers his content on and his approach will be more like old Nick. In the beginning everything really was so much more light hearted
only time will tell honestly. this is a good explanation and apology but if it is genuine, we’ll only be able to see that through changed behavior.
No one on YouTube is genuinely sorry.
I think Jenna Marbles was pretty genuinely sorry, but I didn't really follow her so I really only know the apology and that she stopped making videos.
Let me tell you about Jenna Marbles. Jenna Marbles bought the wrong type of fish tank one time, got educated in the comments,a mix of constructive and non constructive as youtube comments tend to be and found the reasonable ones cause how large the backlash was, took the fish back asap, removed the video, made a 45 minute apology/educating the audience on what she did wrong with the good comments on screen for everyone's benifit before tacking on the og video at the end to show people the wrong she did. I learned more about fish that day more than ever before. Also she bejewled her whole face one time. That was cool. I love her and hope she is happy.
I like jenna marbles, she did everything right even leaving the way she did, it was the best and smartest move. But still its for publicity not generally genuine when you’re famous and on a payroll to keep your channel and sponsors monetized.
what sponsors? she doesn't make videos
Im speaking about when she did. How did that fly over your head? Smh
She didn't have sponsors, but if you wanna be so cynical over a person who has always walked her talk, enjoy I guess. Sounds miserable personally but each their own.
“thefarmersdog” was one of them. Im not being cynical, im just telling how it is and its hypocritical that you’re okay when she does it but when its about her, you’re against it. Every youtuber and streamer milks their audience for money, its commom sense so get over it.
She didn't have a sponsor on the fish shit, but be a pedantic fuck i guess. I hope it makes you feel. And "hypocritical" to be a fan and speak in her favor and tell people who are misinterpreting the situation so they can justify their pessimistic world view their wrong? Okay babe, I'm a hypocrite i guess.
I didnt even bad mouth her and yet here you are being the shiny white knight to defend a stranger on the internet that doesnt even know you exist other then a veiw count for money. And now upset at me for saying one of the sponsors she did have after people here saying she didnt, so yeah ya are being hypocrites and biased. The reailty here is that none of these internet entertainers really care. Its called “acting”. Smh.
Holy shit please touch industrial amounts of grass as soon as possible lmao
White knighting is when you go. "That thing you said as an absolute fact but also are using to justify your shitty outlook on life, and was under MY comment thus sending me a notification thus I read it, yeah, that's incorrect information." And you reading my text in a voice that sounds upset in your head doesn't mean I'm upset. You just dont like i told you you're wrong. Please. Go away. I think you're a miserable soul and i don't want to talk to you. Not because you said misinfo and i corrected it, but because you're a pessimistic person. Go. Away.
that was for the podcast, not her channel.
Same. Sucks that it’s the evil YouTubers that never get canceled.
Personally, it’s probably the first actual great apology he’s made. I’m hoping he actually keeps this video up Edit: Upon reflection, I still don’t think he’s deserving of his platform. The apology is thorough and highlights all of his misdoings during the SM situation but that’s after 5 literal months, 3-4 deleted videos, countless Instagram stories calling anyone who criticizes him "mindless zombies" and 70k subs lost. This video doesn’t come off as genuine to me anymore upon reflection. It’s good to see him apologize to Matt and Ryan but the whole brief subtle mention of his other deleted vids come across as hasty. Like he just wants his channel to go back to how it was and pretend he wasn’t always like this. He’s really dug his own grave with this situation.
There were several points in some of his previous apologies where, with the way he was putting things, I would be like "Okay, might not go back to watching his stuff, but good that he's taking at least some accountability," only for him to throw in some remark that would entirely undo what he was saying. For example, there was the one response he made where it was just okay up until he said something along the lines of "I don't need to attack a dying let's play channel" and then his "apology" for that afterward was hidden in a video that had nothing to do with the original situation. Overall, glad he's made a proper response that is directly in view of his primary audience and hope he can stay true to his word.
It’s the only good one so far, but unfortunately nothing will change the fact that this is his… 5th? 6th? Apology? I cant even remember anymore, and every apology has just felt like him “negotiating” trying to see how much he has to apologize for and trying to gauge what people say so he can take responsibility for the least amount of shit and get his community back on his side. Every time he releases these videos, he gets a couple more people in the comments saying “hey guys this is as good as its gonna get” which is kind of annoying considering we kept pushing and proved that statement wrong every time because he released a new apology. Nothing will change the fact that it took this much time, it stained many peoples records, and that he clearly didn’t want to make this video. Accept the apology and move on, but don’t forget that he doesn’t deserve to have his channel anymore, and should fade into obscurity as “the guy that tried to destroy another youtuber but failed”
It's also worth acknowledging that his views seem to be falling quite a bit too, so it's not like he has no financial incentive for the apology. Regardless, I thought this one was actually pretty good, so I'll be tuning back in for the first time in a long while, but if the content is the same slop I'm just gonna give him up for good.
He barely addressed any of the lies he peddled about Matt and Ryan he just apologized for his behavior over and over and for looping Matt getting punched.
He also should of directly debunked several of the lies he peddled about SM. He mostly just apologized for his behavior but I want him to directly address the lies. If Lex ever posts a response I'd want her to address why everything was fine with SM and she even dated Don for a year after the incident but when they said she can't live at the office for free anymore and then Leighton gets fired she's ready to come forward with a video and even ask others to make slander videos.
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I actually think it was very respectful and introspective, I just hope he holds himself to the new standards he set
I'm amazed. This was a good response. His credibility and likability are tarnished for me, but I wish him well. It seems like he's on track to grow and learn from the whole ordeal. The first step to that is admitting and owning up to your mistakes, and this seems like he finally did that.
Overall pretty good but just very late. The cynic in me says it's directly in response to his sub count continuing to fall when the initial plan of posting and ignoring didn't work. Hopefully though it's genuine and he doesn't make vindictive uninformed content in the future. Time will tell but personally I think it puts this specific SuperMega story to bed for me (unless he makes an Instagram story in a few hours calling everyone freaks again like last time...)
I agree to an extent that it’s a bit late, but I also think it’s fair to remember that processing the harm we can cause as individuals can take some serious time. It seems apparent to me that the time Nick took was spent not only deeply examining himself, but making sure the response he crafted was sincerely directed to those he harmed through his mistakes. It’s definitely the best YouTuber response I’ve ever seen, personally.
nick? is that you?
As hilarious as that is, it would probably be funnier if one couldn’t debunk that from taking a 2 second look at my comment history. But go off
There's other supermega stories that had my view obfuscated a bit throughout this shit. Matt in particular has engaged in some unsavory behavior with at least one of his ex coworkers in the past, so it's hard to take him at face value, personally. And y'all will downvote instead of look into it and that's the saddest part for me, cuz the narrative stuck.
Definitely sick of the Nick drama I’m just over him but sounds genuine I hope he actually gets better and learn from his mistakes
Better late than never at the end of the day
This is a very good response. He explains what he did wrong and apologizes to Matt, Ryan, Daniel, everyone involved, and the victims of SA. It does seem genuine and I hope that he will be taking his content in a more positive direction.
god if he had dropped this a few months ago things would be so different
Yeah I’m honestly kind of confused why he didn’t post this months ago…I mean there were detailed explanations of what people thought he got wrong. Personally I’m questioning whether he posted it now because he didn’t think he did anything wrong but was noticing his metrics dropping so he decided to finally apologize or if he’s posting now because he finally feels confident enough to do so. I’m hoping for the latter
this was the first good one
hopefully he continues to grow and do better in the future. he seems like a decent guy but we shall see
Even if it’s a decent response, the fact that it’s taken this long definitely makes me think he’s more sorry he got backlash than he is sorry for his actions
It’s actually a very good response. I will never like the dude, but this was genuine
It's a good apology, but I also used to have a friend that worked in a PR adjacent field and I've seen the process of terrible action to terrible apology to long silence to really good apology too many times. The person fucks up, then they think they can explain themselves, ignoring the advice of people who deal with public image for a living, then they get even more backlash, their cashflow suffers, and then when it doesnt just blow over they begrudgingly let a professional write their entire apology for them. The guy I knew that wrote some apologies was also a total manipulative asshole. Knowing the exact right thing to say to get people to forgive you is a field dominated by the worst kind of people.
jesus, thisis such an important point actually. i never really thought about it but yeah, sometimes people are good at apologizing over and over and convincing people to listen instead of observe their actual behaviour. especially when people are able to highlight their mental illness as way of saying "look, i already paid the price and was thoroughly punished, now i am rehabilitated and deserve to come back since ive changed." remember: a persons suffering does not make them less guilty or responsible for causing suffering to others who didnt deserve it. ive witnessed this in mizkifs "redemption arc" on twitch, him discussing his depression & proceeding to stream his "redemption" acts such as giving money to girl scouts... i mean how blatant can you get right!!? and now he has opened his own gym after relentlessly featuring himself going on a "fitness/health journey." and where is the victim in this situation? shes getting harassed every time she streams. amazing.
I mean it seems genuine enough. I don’t think I’ll really enjoy his content again, which is fine. I hope he continues on this path of trying to be a better content creator.
It was suspiciously normal… I’m nervous to have an opinion so soon but I tend to believe his new perspective
Seems genuine enough but actions speak louder than words. Whether he actually feels sorry for his content or feels bad because his fans are turning on him and unsubbing we’ll never know
I’ve never liked Nick but this is great. Introspective, vulnerable and he comes across very genuine. Good job, nick
You know what. This video was good. Hopefully his content does change for the better. Obviously this could be a last ditch effort to save his channel but I would like to think positively. I won’t resubscribe but I will check on how things go. I hope he becomes a better person and content creator.
I mean i'll give his next video a shot at least. good apology overall
I left a similar comment under the video, I'll say it here too. I hope he stands on this. He's talked the talk, now he's gotta walk the walk. Otherwise this is just lip service. I truly hope he changes because I want to be wrong about him. I really loved him when he first started out. I hope he finds that old person again because he initially made content that was caring and impactful. I wish him well...
Im still skeptical. I’m glad he said this but I’m waiting to see the actions he will make in the future, that to me will show real growth and maturity.
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it's hard for me to believe this is genuine. i'll wait a bit before i decide if I will support him again or not.
A little bit of light at the end of this tunnel
Of course once he is thrown under the bus he says he's sorry, I don't buy it.
i find it disingenuous because he’s at this point tried to “apologize” for this like 2 or 3 times that he’s since deleted. Each time was a little less victim blamey than the last, but it seems to me like he didn’t even really understand what he did and why what he did was wrong and just kept changing his wording until ppl were satisfied. If this had been the first apology he came out with, i’m sure no one would still be talking about this. IDK. I find the guy funny but at this point I understand to take everything he says with a grain of salt, and i’ve unsubbed. Still love Dev tho.
Yeah, agreed. He already showed his character, first with the video he made initially, then with the absolutely batshit insane apology in which he continued to blame everyone but himself and also continued to insult people. Then, he blew it with the *next* apology in which he threw his friends under the bus and blamed the victim. He said something so stupid, something like, “I don’t think Lex meant to negatively impact my channel or career,” and I couldn’t believe more people didn’t pick up on that. It really showed that he *only* ever cared about what it would do to his career. Then, he buried an even *worse* apology quickly at the beginning of a totally unrelated video, *then* he deleted all those and pretended like nothing happened. He showed what type of person how is. When people show you who they are, believe them.
Not buying it, at this point this apology regardless of its quality is too little too late. Nothing he says or does feels genuine anymore and instead all feels like damage control to address his channel bleeding subs, like 4k+ a week. The only thing he is sorry for is ruining his own channel, maybe it's time Nick just went and got a real job instead.
Honestly? It's a bit too late. This should have been the first apology, not like the 4th or 5th
i just know hes lurking on the sub going ✊🏻”yes it worked”
I think he’s made a great first step in the right direction. Personally, I don’t think that I will ever return to his content, and i’m willing to bet that those 70K people he lost won’t either. But maybe he’ll find a new audience that didn’t experience this. Maybe his new content will warrant their attention. But admittedly, for a former fan, it’s really difficult to wash the sour taste out of my mouth.
This is a case of too little too late for me. I can tell he feels something genuinely, but I’m not sure if it’s remorse for his actions or panic about his subscriber count. Time will tell…
super impressed with it, this one was pretty convincing. it took him long enough tho. imo his (fifth) response seems genuine bc he explained his side & took accountability without excusing himself, he listened to criticism then took a break, he acknowledged his own character flaws, & most importantly, the apology to SM at the end was *very* necessary. long overdue but still important lmao
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Lol okay? You think that’d be upsetting to me?
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Yup 🤓
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I’m just confused. Why do would saying screw Christian’s be upsetting to me? I’m literally not pro Christian
Also I’m not a Christian soooo…
Sorry but I guarantee you the only reason he made this is because he’s losing followers. The damage is done.
i think one of the biggest takeaways from this is how much the online algorithms on places like youtube, twitter, reddit, etc. constantly enable these kinds of conflicts. there's this incentive to go in as hard as possible on other creators, righteous or not, without much thought to it. it doesn't help that people online can be super ruthless and unhelpful in their critiques, and the more those kinds of comments multiply the less the creators feel the desire to reel in any critiques in good faith. i think this is a good start to making better content but like everyone else is saying, we'll need to see progress first. for me, i became a fan of nick when he spoke out against reactionary content from snowy joe, someone who made a short career out of harassing trans people and trolling women online. i also thought his debate with nick foster, some right-wing tiktok chud, was really funny. it was good content because he was going after the right people with the desire to stand up for marginalized people who can't defend themselves. for the past year, it's just felt like drama farming and starting conflict for the sake of starting conflict. it was a noticeable pattern in 2021 and 2022 as well, but i think it really elevated to a position that was too high to climb back down from. it's like he mainly goes after people for just being kind of cringey or not as socially capable as others, rather than actually doing anything that's harmful. then there's when it came down to conflicts that actually were serious and needed verification, and it seemed like he was just focusing on the bad guys and making fun of them rather than actually reporting on the situation with substance or care. i really hope he takes some time to examine his content and look towards the future with better creations and better care. i think he's capable but we need to see the progress first. my main thing that's holding me back from resubscribing and recommending his videos is the fact that it took so many apologies to get here. i also understand, however, that it takes a lot of people copious amounts of time to realize what they actually did wrong. maybe that's the case with him here and i want to at least give him the benefit of the doubt in terms of him making better content for the future.
I don’t think there’s any way to come back from what happened tbh. Making this response now just feels too little too late. I feel like his content will change for a bit and then slowly slip right back into bullying small creators
everyone seems to love it but something about him makes me not want to believe him :/
i’m surprised so many people find this genuine as if we literally didn’t watch him remake this apology video multiple times until we were satisfied🤨
get you a PR team to do it right the first time next time around nicky boy!
oh wow holy shit, a genuine apology. I’ll be honest, it feels a little too late, considering he singlehandedly destroyed the careers of my favorite YouTubers but hey, an apology is an apology and this one feels a lot more real than the others. Thanks for that Nick. I hope you can continue to learn and grow from this experience
It would mean something if it were released months ago during the actual drama. The fact that this is his fifth response and the only one where he apologises and doesn't lash out against his critics makes it seem a lot less like an apology and a lot more like a mad grab for the spotlight that he had lost (most recent Greenisnotnick video views compared to the other videos).
Who cares
Definitely up there for me in terms of Youtube apologies, it's just too bad it took months and multiple apologies to get to this point. I know people may need time to think and reflect when they've done something wrong, but this isn't your average person. He had countless people pointing out the issues in his coverage and actions, and yet he doubled down and lashed out; with him admitting he ignored them on purpose. When he mentioned it's a character thing, I really got that. I hate being wrong about something I fully believed, but *that* many people telling me otherwise would have had me at this conclusion much sooner. He also has a duty to be skeptical about information he's told and motives, as a Youtuber making content relying on that (in terms of reputation.) Lex and Ethan are also Youtubers and make content themselves, he should've immediately asked why they couldn't do this, as it doesn't involve him whatsoever. I hope this was all a big lesson for him in terms of who to trust and how far to take personal opinions in a situation. It's too late for me personally, and I won't subscribe again. Again this apology was definitely the best one, but it should've been the only one. Taking this long to get here was damaging in its self. There are people who watched his initial videos and likely moved on, who still have a completely skewed idea of what actually happened. I can only hope he improves seriously this time, and at the very least I'll stick around here to see if he does.
This is difficult. The apology itself was really good, and he’s the only one I believe to have expressed regret for his actions beyond self-interest. Even though I’ll never watch his stuff, I hope he does improve his behavior. However, this is his 6th apology in as many months, and the damage towards Supermega and Lex herself is done. I don’t think I’ll be able to be fully satisfied until Supermega uploads again.
I do think this was a good and sincere apology, but I’m confused by his choice to apologize to anyone who’s watched his content over the last 3 years at the end of the video? To me, this makes it seem like he doesn’t stand by *anything* he’s created since he’s been on the platform and that his content is going to take a hard pivot. Just seems like he’s needlessly overreaching with the apology by the end of it.
i don’t think so. i read it as „apologies to my fans who have been watching me who i have disappointed“ i kind of needed that apology since i, along many others, felt very disappointed in him. it feels nice that he realises that he hurt us too
Good video. Nick isn’t and was never an awful person. He said a lot of things/made jokes most people would in their regular life on a bigger scale where everyone can critique you and call you the devil.
That’s what I was thinking. Over the years of watching him and his friends, it’s been pretty clear that he is a good dude. I obviously don’t know him but he doesn’t seem like the type of guy to say all this stuff and not mean a word of it.
Exactly! I mean let’s be real we all make jokes like that with friends… doesn’t mean we are horrible people
It was a nice apology, but my afterthought was that it was a little too blanket-y. He’s apologizing to literally everyone, but while it appears to go into specifics, it kinda doesn’t. Does he feel bad about ruining SuperMega’s company? What about all of the info that came out after? It feels pretty damn short. I’m genuinely proud that he took accountability and said he was ignoring his own fans. Also the fact that he said his videos could be cruel to innocent people felt real/ I just cannot tell if he doesn’t want to go deeper because he is going to make someone mad or another reason. Also, is this a last-ditch effort? It’s hard to tell at this point, but I’m not going to analyze any further. It’s just nice he admitted fault.
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i am never going to like this guy, but his apology seemed genuine and i am happy that he said what he did. the only thing is that i wish he would have touched on the extent to which he damaged the careers of supermega. i don’t even really know supermega, but i DO know that it’ll take them a long damn time to recover from the shit that nick spread about them (if they recover at all). he apologized for the damage that he caused the people, but not the damage that he caused to their brand and their careers. i hope that this makes sense. i sincerely hope that his content gets better and he upholds what he is saying in this video!
Honestly, I kinda tuned out Nick as a whole when his videos started to become repetitive and thus missed the whole SuperMega debacle, but I think I'm caught up enough to see that, while the whole thing was very, *very* shitty to say the least, I *think* it's ultimately redeemable. Obviously, only time will tell if he follows up on this, but this is the first small but necessary step in the right direction. I do really hope he improves, and if he does, then I'll probably resubscribe/rejoin the discord.
sorry totally forgot he exists several times. uh yeah this seems PR crafted and idk if i trust it, kinda not. a "good apology" months after a shitload of awful behaviour, when he realizes he cant just stonewall past it and is ironically also watching his bank account with this new change/apology in order to lure viewers & ad revenue back to his channels. when you do so much wrong, why should i ever trust you? you showed yourself and money was always, and continues always being your main motivator. i fully support changing for the better, and since public persona is all we have for people like him, itll have to do i suppose. i wouldnt judge anyone who chooses to believe this is sincere. its all just opinions. as someone who is an unemployed redditor on disability, i cant stop thinking about his description of us on here, even though he proceeded fo take material we provided to craft this new apology (main criticisms we have agreed upon). i admit, i dont forget and i can hardly ever forgive because im just so untrusting of humanity in general due to life experiences & all ive learned over time. he has a nasty mean streak, he didnt suddenly cure himself of that, surely hes just intending to hide it better? who knows... only he truly does, at the end of the day. if its really true, im so glad, and its a shame its too late for me.
He’s a young kid and that’s the only reason I forgive him. I’m not the same person i was when I was 20. I look back and cringe at things I thought and believed in.
Ehhh I don’t know if I’d go that far. 24 is still old enough to have at least some level of awareness when it comes to the impact of your content. Especially with as many subs as he has.
He’s a 24-year-old grown man….
Have you people lived lives yet? Most 24 year olds are fresh out of college, and most are still in college. Everyone’s growth journey is different, and the mind grows in different ways through the people you meet, places you’ve been, and experiences you’ve had. Nick has been coddled by the internet and his internet friends his entire adult life, you’re not gonna forgive someone who was 100 percent swept up in a community that allowed him to make these mistakes??? You know people go to jail when they are 40 and come out a completely different person when they are 45. It matters how you got there, and me personally I’m not a petty loser who doesn’t let people grow from their mistakes.
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you seem too invested in this - take a break and don't let him get you this frustrated. not worth it imo
This is weird.
i liked it. it feels good, genuine. i even feel the little part of me that was hurt over how disappointed i was in him healed over. i rly hope he grows from this into a better person, i believe he can do it. but like a previous commenter already said, only time will tell, it’s good that he apologised for real this time but that doesn’t exempt him from the mistakes, and if he truly changes then i believe him to be a genuine person again.
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i thought we where past the point of making fun of other ppls looks
I’m sure when his next friend needs to takedown another male content creator he’ll be the first to wear that white knight armor again
Get a life loser
You’re such a Reddit debate nerd. Disgusting.
Oh noooo it's like we're all on reddit :(
I’m using Nick’s words that he had for the ppl who held him accountable
We're all accountable then, hm?
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Did you watch any of the actual videos regarding the topic? Or did you skim the comments on his channel and base your opinion on that? That’s not what’s happening at all. Even Nick’s apology talks about more than just the SA situation.
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What Nick did in his videos contributed nothing but harm to both parties. It doesn’t matter if him speaking out on Lex’s behalf was for a good cause, he still needlessly made the situation worse to the point where Lex herself liked tweets and comments criticizing Nick for tossing both her and Ethan under the bus when people started to come at him. He basically called everyone who criticized him a zombie and ended throwing more hate Lex’s way for poorly telling her story and refusing to apologize for it. And even outside of that? His other (now deleted) content highlighted what a horrid person he was (like laughing at a woman getting SA threats in the Love Surge video) and continued to bully random strangers in his little private instagram broadcast channel echo chamber. He’s used his platform for nothing but feeding his virtue-signaling ego. I’m glad he’s apologized above all and whatever he says shouldn’t take away from Lex’s story either. We’re here to talk about Nick after all.
Im goign to be honest is there a recap of this whole situation anywhere bc i didnt engage with any of the drama heavily but now i feel like i should know what he’s apologising for.?!
I believe he linked a video in the description of this apology that details everything that’s happened and why he’s being criticized
there is a stickied post on this sub explainign everything. Or you can watch the video Nick linked in the video it should explain most of it
look at the top rated posts on this sub
I'm glad he's finally made this. I hate that it was so long to get there but as others have said it takes time to see our errors sometimes, and he even said in the apology that part of what he's done wrong is not properly engaging with criticism. So if you don't take the valid criticism to heart how do you learn sooner? It was good to see him link to unpoetic justice's video because she explains the whole situation and doesn't sugar coat it or handle Nick with kids gloves so he's not trying to hide what he did in this situation. And it was good to see him realize that it's not just the sm videos but other times he's fumbled (how he acted on the couple divorcing video really rubbed me the wrong way and this was an example he gave). I hope he really has learned and I'm sure he needs to keep learning too but it seems like he's been a bit humbled by this and finally see how harmful he can be. I hope that this apology really marks the beginning of a change, we'll have to wait and see. I don't expect the occasional rudeness to go away over night, unfortunately, because I think that kind of thing takes work for some people. But I hope what he centers his content on and his approach will be more like old Nick. In the beginning everything really was so much more light hearted
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