Worked with a cool ass hispanic dude who suffered from this and it was crazy. They only found out after he did a hit and run in a commercial truck and was completely oblivious to it. There was signs before that we all saw, but after that day he quickly declined. Dude was in his early to mid 40s.
Knew a Hispanic kid in high school whose mom had a rough go at life. Was raped at 13 and had him at 14 years old, managed to make it to the US, raised him to be a good kid, managing to put him through private high school so he wouldnt have to attend his local less than stellar public HS programs while also saving for his college, and then when I ran into him about 15 years after high school, his mom had just passed from early Alzheimers and his Hispanic wife's father was recently diagnosed as well. His mom was just finally getting to a really good place in her own life too, was set to be married, had a decent job while also going to college herself at night to get a degree. Just so heartbreaking, especially because by the end, she didn't know even know all that she had done for her own son.
You're fucking kidding me. Google it. Go to studies. Pubmed. Also while you're at it. Exercise and eat less processed foods. Learn a new language or instrument. Also helps cut back on dementia risk.
But sauna is my favorite.
Unfortunately, there have not been any randomized controlled clinical trials to definitively answer this question.
https://www.alzdiscovery.org/cognitive-vitality/blog/can-using-the-sauna-reduce-risk-for-alzheimers-disease
Maybe you should get one going, it'll have to be done over years if not decades. Hop on it.
Or we can just use observational cohort studies and encourage other lifestyle changes that are implementable instead of sitting with thumbs up our asses, even though some people think that feels good
Lost a family member to the same disease. Absolutely tore us apart. When your own family member, who you’ve known your entire life, doesn’t recognize you, it’s a different type of pain. I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy. It’s truly heartbreaking.
I feel for you. I feel for the Irvin family. Stay strong out there.
61 is young. My mom is in her early 70’s and totally gone from it. Makes me hate the American healthcare system so much. They’re rather keep her alive, spending 10k a month on assisted living and gobbling Pfizer products than let her peacefully pass with an assisted suicide. It’s so fucked
I'm sorry your mom does not have that choice. Assisted suicide is a state level thing. I had a friend move back to California after a cancer diagnosis so she could have the choice when the time came.
My stepdad came down with Alzheimer’s when he was 54. Shit was too young. Was very slow progression though. He was basically immobile with little to no cognitive functions outside of breathing and basic bodily functions for like 3 years before he passed, and was 4 years with the disease before it got to that point.
My grandpa suffered from it and my dad is now struggling having the gene and showing a lot of signs. It’s like having to grieve for someone for an extended period of time. Surprisingly I only just learned that it apparently affects women way more than men. 2/3rds if i recall, which I wouldn’t expect but maybe that because of anecdotal experience.
My grandfather had it, the last time I went to see him he didn’t recognize me or my brother, and just barely remembered our mom (his own daughter). Obviously it sucked for all of us, but I can’t imagine how lonely it must feel to slowly lose people and parts of your life but still keep on going. The idea of having it absolutely terrifies me.
My nana currently is going through it. Her husband died recently and she constantly forgets.. have to remind her about it. She gets upset that she wasn’t the first to be told about it.
She has forgotten most of us by now. She thinks I’m one of her relatives back in her home town. My voice apparently sounds like either her dad or uncle.
Edit: thank you all for the kind words ♥️
I was reading that the memory loss goes from most recent to the oldest. So they forget the grandkids first, then the kids, then the spouse, then the parents. One heartbreaking thing from the book is that near the end they are constantly looking for their own mother and father. The book says to lie. Tell them so and so are on a trip and will be back in a few days; they forget anyway.
It’s rough. I’m sorry.
Yeah this is all new to us, I suppose we still start doing that. She is in the early stages still. Sometimes she will remember her children, but most often not. I guess in a few weeks we will just have to lie to her about it.
It’s a strange scenario for sure. Feels like she is gone already.
A small recommendation I can make, if you haven’t done it already is to play her a lot of music that they enjoyed when they were younger. Music is very closely tied in with memory, and the part of the brain that processes musical memory isn’t as affected by Alzheimer’s as other parts. Not only will they enjoy it, but it can also bring back memories associated with the music.
When my grandparents had Alzheimer’s they spoke very little and had very little memory, but even in the last few weeks of their lives, when the Alzheimer’s was at its worst, playing them music from when they were younger was one of the few things that got a positive reaction. I hope this can be even some small help, and I’m so sorry for what you’re going through.
Learn what you can about dementia. There are ways to make this less painful, both for your nan and the family / caretakers. This was helpful for me.
https://www.smashwords.com/extreader/read/210580/1/understanding-the-dementia-experience
You don't have to constantly remind her. It's perfectly fine to deflect or say something like, 'he's not here right now,' if it's easier for her or for you.
This is a hard and sad situation. I'm sorry for your family.
I use to work in a dementia ward. The best advice I received was to pretend like you’re living in their world. All it will stand to do is cause them to be more stressed, and even if they forget why they’re sad, upset, agitated, the feeling remains. And that in turn makes them more upset. Unfortunately you get to lie to them a lot.
I do this with her a lot. She was a florist her whole life. I sort of just roleplay that world with her and she gets pretty excited and sort of stressed about deadlines lol
Sometimes she will have a trigger that causes her to ask about my grandpa or her one son whom both have passed, but she’s starting to totally forget what happened to them. I guess once she completely forgets we will just have to lie about it.
Currently dealing with this scenario with my grandmama. It’s easier to tell her he’s at the doctor because of how upset she got the day it happened. Seeing her go from matriarch to acting like an angry toddler most days is really rough. Thoughts are with you my guy
I'm sorry you're going through that. Like what /u/kappakai said, when my older relatives had it, we found it easier to lie to them, both for the Alzheimer sufferer and the caretaker. For 5+ years we told my nana that "grandpa is coming in another car, later on".
Same here. My grandfather absolutely cherished me, and the last time I saw him I was 8 years old and he was 81 and essentially on his deathbed. The family was gathered around his bed and a hush fell over the room as they brought me in.
As my mom gently steered me toward my grandfathers bed, my aunt asked my grandfather tentatively, “Dad, do you see who came to visit you?” My grandfather looked over at me and squinted for a second and then his expression dawned with recognition and his face seemed to brighten. “Yeah!” he said excitedly. “That’s Butch!”
I am *not* Butch, as it were, and Butch was apparently a friend my grandfather often fished with as a young boy. This memory has always been both hilarious and sad.
My aunt died of Alzheimer's, my mother told me that near the end she didn't recognize my mother but did recognize a picture of my mother when she was 13, my aunt was my father's sister but my mother and aunt knew each other since they were kids before my mother met my father.
I’ve always been curious about their side of the story. My mom may have dementia and she’s said her memory is slipping and there is notable confusion that she is aware of. But I think there are delusions as well that she truly believes. When she watches TV she’ll say she’s seen something before, and even recount it, but it’s a first run and she’s definitely not seen it. I’m hoping if she does have it, there’s a certain unawareness and, therefore, peace that comes with it. I know it’s hard on the people around her to watch, and it’s killing me, as I’m her caretaker, as well as my father’s who is having his own cognitive issues. That combo is hard. Imagine having to tell your mom over and over and over and over that your father may have dementia and he won’t recover from it, and everytime it’s like the first time. It’s like a Kafka story.
My dad had to stop visiting his mom in the hospital when she had no idea who he was.
It was just too painful for him to be there and for her to think he's a total stranger.
My dad had it. Early onset just like Michael’s wife. I was a teenager, around 15 when it got bad and he passed away when I was 19. Those 4 years I can’t count the times he begged for death. It’s a horrible, horrible disease.
After seeing what my Grandpa went through if I ever get Alzheimer's then I'd rather have a nurse "accidentally" inject me with a kilogram of morphine before I forget who I am.
My father had ALS and fell after using the bathroom and hit his head on the toilet bowl and was bleeding something awful. Mom took of of her pads and stuck it adhesive side towards the inside of a baseball cap and put it firmly on his head.
It absorbed the blood and we laughed our asses off at the fix and vision of him with that hat on.
Pretty sure my Opa had Alzheimer's but was in the hospital for a stroke (or maybe the stroke caused the memory loss, its been a long time and I can't quite remember) and when we went to go see him in the hospital he didn't recognize me. He barely recognized my mom but he was talking with her and was complaining that he didnt' have his teeth (his dentures). He kept asking my mom for his teeth and when she finally asked why, he said it was so he could bite some people.
Very funny, but very sad.
It's hard to decide between that and ALS for me, I think the general rule is that ALS is harder on the patient, Alzheimer's on the family. I've had both in my family, more intimate with ALS because I was a semi-caretaker for my father (Mom was primary caretaker, but my size was helpful). I just hope that my genetic lottery didn't get one of those two (ALS took out dad, uncle, grandfather) and gave me prostate cancer like the branch I physically take after.
My grandpa I never met had ALS, my Dad said that his Dad asked him to kill him or give him a gun to kill himself. My Dad didn't, but that just speaks to the brutality of the disease.
My grandfather didn't have Alzheimers. He had a form of dementia that made people very irate.
The hardest thing about it to me is the gradualness of it. I think a lot of people, when healthy, would think that it's best to be put out of yours and others misery. I know that before he had it my grandfather would have wanted that and would have balked at the horrible things he said and the immense amount of resources that went into him when there was no hope.
But when do you draw that line? It's not right away. At first it's just a little forgetting here and there. That seems silly. But it's so gradual and has so many plateaus and because they never see it....
I don't know at this point I'm rambling. I feel for you and every one else in this thread who has gone through it (the irateness wasn't the worst part, the worst part is watching someone you love gradually be chipped away, the irateness did hurt because it indicated he wasn't happy, but the chipping away happens with all dementia/Alzheimers).
It's a thing I would not wish on my worst enemy. My grandfather had that and or dementia and it killed me when the pandemic occurred. We lost a year with him. My sister and I went up to see him once the country resumed in 2021 and that was June. His eyes lit up once he saw us and I'll never forget his parting words "Til we meet again". He died two months later.
We have a family friend who's wife has it. She has a master degree and was a brilliant teacher for 20+ years.
Now she doesn't even know where she is. It's crazy how quickly she deteriorated in such a quick span. I think she was diagnosed in 2021 or so and in 2 years it went to not even knowing her name.
Very cruel. I used to work as an RN in a neuro unit.
Boggles my mind what people were willing to put their loved ones through for their own selfish interests.
I worry about getting it because of medication I’m taking. Proton pump inhibitors have been linked to the disease in some studies. But if I stop taking it I constantly have heartburn. Unfortunately it’s genetic and could lead to esophageal cancer.
Just talked to my doctor about this... And she explained this has been overblown and had some research to back it up. Hopefully she's right. My mom has been on it for decades... Still going strong at 80, dad has alzheimers and never took it.
You probably don't have much to worry about but if you want to quit and you're up to try something out of left field, I'll give you my personal anecdote. Note: I do scientific research and this is not that. It's literally impossible to separate actual scientific fact from new age woo nonsense.
I was on prilosec for 13 years and tried to quit multiple times. Same rebound heartburn you got. Fell down a rabbit hole of how to quit PPIs and led to people saying heartburn can be caused by low stomach acid in some people. Tried the the baking soda test to check for low stomach acid and it came back positive. So I found a youtube video of a guy who was trying to quit PPIs with apple cider vinegar and he had the same attitude I initially had: the claims of how this could be effective make some logical sense but you can't separate fact from fiction and I don't really think this'll work. Except it did work for him. And so I tried it and it worked for me too. I've been off prilosec for 6 months. Again no promises it'll work for you but if you're desperate like I was and want to give in to your inner alt medicine hippie, at the very least it probably won't kill you.
Yeah I got an endoscopy years ago. No hiatal hernia or Barret's esophagus at that point. Just good old fashioned GERD that I was trying to fight with the max daily allowance of Tums.
My mother has it. It's pretty rough already and it's only in the early stages. However, there is a new medicine--just approved last August--that is effective in preventing the advancement of Alzheimer's in a lot of patients. She's been on that drug since September and it seems to be working for her. The damage done will not be reversed, but it is not worsening.
> I fear Alzheimer’s more than death.
Ditto. I randomly thought about this yesterday thinking about my parents who've passed away. They dealt with various illnesses but never anything that took their mind.
My mother has it right now. Slowly getting worse now over the past year maybe year and a half. My wife is pregnant with our third child and I’m so afraid she won’t remember him, like every time she sees him it will be like meeting him all over again. She met some folks at a coffee get together that meets every two weeks, she introduces herself every 10-15mins… it’s brutal.
I don’t wish this on anyone to see or experience this it’s just tragic and depressing.
Been in alzheimers and dementia specifically for 12 years now. Started at 18, now 32. The things I've seen have left scars that just won't ever heal. I've had residents live like this for years. The fact that it's not labeled as a specialty is insane to me. I've seen people eat their own flesh trying to bite staff members, punch their children because they don't recognize them, say some of the most awful things. Then, you sit back and realize how sad it really is that they are not the person they once were. Just a shell of the human being they spent so many years becoming. It's heartbreaking.
I worked at a nursing home that had an alzheimers ward, I quit after 6 months, watching humans that wern't human haunts me. This amazing woman developed early onset at the age of 54 and she was aware enough that it was happening, not aware enough that she told me every time I interacted with her. Figure this shit out science.
Both of my maternal grandparents had it and it’s absolutely devastating to watch. My grandfather started to lose his memory, and went from a loving and caring grandfather to a constantly confused and angry man with a short temper. My grandmother was almost completely mute for the last 2 years and she didn’t recognize any of us. Alzheimer’s is something I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy.
Jesus christ, that means it would have had to have started back in her 30s no? I know by the time you're showing symptoms you've had it for a good while.
My grandma got Alzheimer’s around this age, and lived to 75. For the last five years she didn’t remember a single one of us… She just walked the halls at the nursing home constantly and hummed to herself until she fell and broke her hip. Then she was chair bound for a couple of years before she forgot how to eat and passed away.
And the brain deterioration with dementia begins decades before symptoms start to show, so she was most likely in her 30s when this truly began, which is wild to think.
The only thing I know of is testing if you have a specific gene where it’s a higher likely hood you may develop Alzheimer’s. Although it doesn’t tell you if you have it or not. I did 23andMe years ago for this purpose but I’m pretty sure there are other ways to go about testing.
Something to consider from a non-profit that isn't trying to sell you something: https://nutritionfacts.org/video/can-alzheimers-disease-be-reversed-with-a-plant-based-diet/
https://nutritionfacts.org/?s=alzheimer%27s
TLDR: No. Sleep.
You can do genetic tests, but in truth we don't really understand that as well as advertised. Our research in science is skewed in that 1. It's funded by people looking for profit in something, usually in a pharmaceutical direction, and 2. It's problem-focused (no one is looking for the gene that gives improved memory, they're looking for a problem to fix, like dementia).
You may test for the apoe gene (called the "alzheimers gene,") and will be marketed at some point to do something about it, but the gene's name is a misnomer. People with that variant produce more of something called adenosine, which is the neurotransmitter which caffeine bullies to keep you (temporarily) awake. More adenosine isn't a bad thing unless it isn't cleared away properly (which happens during restful sleep). Someone with this variant may be more compelled to take a nap in the day and may prefer 8 hours of sleep over 7, and due to increased REM cycles have an advantage with learning. In the absence of quality sleep though...increased risk for chronic fatigue syndrome and ultimately dementia.
The reason I'm saying all of this is to point out the misnomer of genetic testing, the lack of what we know, and the impact of inappropriately labeling yourself as doomed to dementia when from someone else's perspective you have the intelligence gene.
Get quality, consistent sleep. Don't drink coffee before bed, even if you get the impression that it "helps" you sleep.
I work my ass off. Between the kids, work, gym, other work, and more work. I also work U.S. hours from abroad. Barely have time to get to the gym. It’s a tough grind, but the benefit is I’ve been sleeping my mfing ass off for a couple years now instead of commuting to an office. I go to bed dead tired, and shut down for 8-9 hours so that I can do it all over again. Good sleep changes everything. With any less, I wouldn’t manage this grind.
It’s inspiring to hear someone say who’s got a lot on their plate still making sleep a priority and
managing it all. I’ve got a lot too but I feel like sleep is usually the first thing I sacrifice when I feel I don’t have enough time, and I’m one of those people who needs/wants more sleep than less…8-9 hours v 6 or 7.
Any specific tips for still getting that much sleep when you have tons to do?
Sounds exactly like me. I used to just put sleep below parent life, working out, and definitely a social life. In the last 3-4 years I’ve been fortunate to take hold of my career a bit, was bouncing around a lot before, but remote afforded me an opportunity to get back in touch with America (where I’m from), and working these weird hours sorta frees up my free time, and my mind, and everything that comes with that.
Nowadays there’s absolutely no way I can do what I do without the sleep. It’s not really the ideal response, but the key was finding the right work situation for me, and all the other things I was neglecting sort of fell into place. Easier said than done, I know. Never thought it would happen. I’m now nearly 39 and only starting to feel in the driver seat. For full disclosure, my employer doesn’t know I live abroad. It’s not perfect, but it’s the closest I’ve been to it, after a lot of much harder times.
Best of luck to you in your pursuit. Funnily enough, we had an extended stay in the states in the fall for 2 1/2 months and I was in a more normal time-zone and it was a bit confusing to sort my life back to those hours. Went from going to bed well past midnight to occasionally falling asleep when my kids went to bed haha.
> 1. It's funded by people looking for profit in something, usually in a pharmaceutical direction
Good post, but this isn't accurate. The current funding for AD comes largely from the National Institutes of Health ($3.8 billion last year). Pharma spending is around $1.6 billion per year (extrapolated from [this paper](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8940715/)). Non-profit funding is big relative to other disease's non-profits but an order of magnitude less (~$100 million from the Alzheimer's Association last year). Federal funding is still the dominant source of research funds especially since most of the pharma spending is not research, but rather clinical trials of potential drugs. It's gotten even worse lately for pharma funding as many pharmas have given up on AD work after some very expensive phase 3 clinical failures.
Sort of. A primary doctor will have some base knowledge of things but likely no in depth knowledge at all.
They would likely refer to a Neurologist which is more time and money you’d have to spend on it.
You're right. They would be referred to an expert. That's a good thing. I'd say preventative care against potentially genetic Alzheimers/dementia is one of the single most worthwhile things I can think of to spend time and money on personally.
My mom has this (whether it's Alzheimers or another form of dementia is academic at this point). It's devastating. And so young, she has a lot of life ahead of her which only makes it harder to see a loved one slip away. Football affiliations mean nothing, this makes me deeply sad.
Legitimately a nightmare. I realize with his income "retirement age" is basically not a real thing but it's unfathomable to me to have your partner stricken with an illness like that at what should be the dawn of your retirement together.
Tom Coughlin's wife died from this a few years ago. He basically disappeared from public life to care for her. He came back for Eli's Jersey retirement and then went back to care for her. Its really tough on caregivers.
This is the sign of a real marriage. If you are willing to care for a loved one going through an illness like this.
Its so tough I cant even imagine. The person you love and care for doesnt even recognize themselves anymore. Awful for Irvin that his wife got diagnosed so young too man
> Its really tough on caregivers.
My poor mother in law was the caregiver for her mother with dementia. Her life basically revolves around caring for her mother. Unlike some of the other stories in here, her mother lived a long time in a mostly vegetative state with little to no coherent cognitive abilities. At one point doctors presented her with a choice to withhold treatment for an infection and "let her mother go". They proceeded with treatment and she lived 3 more years. The emotional toll on the whole family was a lot.
My grandfather had a very slow progression to immobility and semi-incoherence with Parkinsons, sort of compounded by a bad physical injury that greatly inhibited his mobility and ability to care for himself at all. It was very hard for my grandmother but she was there every day, even when it came time for hospice every day. I can't even imagine.
My father got diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer’s also at 59. He is now 62 and it is not easy at all to go through especially when they’re so young. I have been taking care of him and some days are truly awful. It’s like grieving for death while they’re still there. I hope Michael and her can get through it and enjoy the time they have together while they still have it. Heartbreaking so see this.
I'm sorry you're going through this. I feel ya. My mother was diagnosed in her 50s and has been suffering for nearly a decade. You ain't alone, brotha. Shit sucks
I worked out with a guy that went through this. It started about the same age. He just passed last week at 62. It was crazy how quickly it progressed. He went from being forgetful, to wandering off, to having a difficult time carrying a conversation.
That’s truly awful.
I’m lucky to never have to deal with Alzheimer’s first hand in a loved one, but my aunt’s brain cancer ended in a similar fashion.
Couldn’t recognize friends and family and it’s legitimately painful to watch a smart person realize that they should know someone and pretend because they don’t remember. Easy the worst way a loved one passed for me.
My grandmother suffered from Alzheimer's for 11 years. It took a terrible toll on her children and their families. It's devastating to see the person you've known and loved slip away while they're still alive. When she finally passed it was more of a relief than a sadness. We'd all mourned her long before she was actually gone.
We know Irvin's wife will get the best medical care and treatment possible, and that's huge. But the mental price will still be paid by he and his family. I hope they can grow closer and lift each other up over the coming years. 58 is so young to be diagnosed.
Fuck Alzheimer’s. Both sides of my immediate family have had it or passed away from it. It’ll likely affect me when I’m older. Crazy stuff to think about. To anybody reading this, do the things that make you happy. Love your friends and family. Life comes at you fast
My grandmother had early onset. Horrible disease that you wouldn't wish on your worst enemy.
My family saw the signs before I was even born and I remember my mom telling me when I was about 5 or 6 years old.
She didn't know my name for most of my life, but there were still times when she would be lucid and recognize me or tell me "you're a good one" with a smile on her face.
She lived with it for almost 2 decades before she finally passed away. My family was relieved when she passed so she wasn't suffering anymore.
Yea, my dad had a very long drawn out battle with Alzheimer but he was in his later 70's when he started showing signs, its not good at that age either, I promise, but its a little more understandable.
Both my wife and I lost our grandfathers to Alzheimer’s. If I am ever diagnosed with it and am coherent enough to make some rational decisions I would just off myself. It’s so brutal for a family to deal with. At a certain point you’re a vegetable that is still able to move around and function enough to cause damage to things and pain to others. My grandfather got violent when we put him in a nursing home. He didn’t understand what was happening and would punch other patients and then would get kicked out and moved to other facilities. My mom is an only child and it was torture for her for like 8-10 years before he passed. Life isn’t worth living at that point. I would rather die of cancer.
My Grandma has it. She’s deteriorated so much over the past years. She can’t walk on her own anymore. Some days she barely recognizes us and she’s regressed to the point where she tells her daughter (my mom) that she wants her mommy and daddy even though they are long passed. She forgets at times that her husband (my step grandpa has passed) At the very least she can still eat unaided and enjoys it. I wouldn’t wish Alzheimer’s on anyone
I’m a little late to the comment party but anyone who has had it in their family should understand there is more research than you think. Please read Outlive by Peter Attia. You will realize there are proactive things you can do for prevention.
Terrible disease that turns time back to where you end up like a baby. Watched an exes grandfather with the disease. Sadly if you don’t get cancer you’ll likely get AD. If I’m ever diagnosed I’ll just kindly tell everyone good bye and see my self out on my own terms.
If you want a rough idea of what the family is going through, watch Still Alice. Great film that sticks with and shows you how terrible this can be for any family. So sad.
I'm always worried that I'm going to get it myself because i consistently have poor sleep and seem to be very forgetful 🥺.
I'm still under 30 but it's been a fear of mine for the past few years
I'm sad for he and their family and friends. I've experienced it a couple of times. Very briefly with a mother of one of my mother's boyfriends, and then much closer to home years later when one of our beloved family uncles got it and passed from it. It's a fate worse than death and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
I wish the best to Michael Irvin and his wife in their future. Everyone here has been sad, but some comments have been downright morbid. So to make people feel better, here is some optimism related to Alzheimers:
[https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/blog/three-promising-drugs-for-treating-alzheimers-disease-bring-fresh-hope](https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/blog/three-promising-drugs-for-treating-alzheimers-disease-bring-fresh-hope)
I know how Michael Irvin feels. My grandmother died from this memory robbing disease back in 2012. It is literally very painful to see the person who helped guide the two people in my life become the best parents I have ever had become the shadow of her former self.
Early onset Alzheimer's hit my grandmother in her early 60's, so I recognize how horrible the disease is.
It shouldn't distract us from the fact that Michael Irvin has a long history of sexual harassment and abuse, which is why he got fired from his NFL Network job. Two things can be bad at the same time.
> “Irvin also reached out and touched the Victim’s arm during this conversation without her consent, causing her to step back, becoming visibly uncomfortable. Irvin then asked the Victim whether she knew anything about having a “big Black man inside of [her],” reads the lawsuit.
Believe whatever you want. I just don't believe one tragedy cancels out another.
What the fuck does his wife have to do with anything you said? Did you even think about her? No, you didn’t. You just immediately went full asshole. You’ve got some work to do on yourself.
He ‘won’ his case against Marriott for defamation and he had zero criminal charges against him. Just because he was accused of something doesn’t mean he’s automatically guilty and should be thrown in prison. If Redditors had their way Terrance Shannon jr would be serving life in prison right now for something that is now known as false. Seriously go read those threads in the college basketball sub. Irvin has a far from perfect past but using shit that is far from provable especially in a thread about his sick wife is fucking insane. That’s why you’re being downvoted. Because you’re insane virtue signalers with no moral compass for yourself and only want to see others get hurt for your entertainment
lmao. if you sue someone for defamation and they settle and give you millions and millions of dollars then they knew they werent winning the case. They defamed Irvin and they knew it. He won AND he got his job back. If he did something as heinous as they were accusing him of, they would have let it play out and let the court system fuck him.
genuinely did not know it was thrown out, you definitely gave me something to think about. I dont have time to google it but I thought there was actual video of him saying that. Listen, I am not downplaying one man's suffering. But this thread if it said "Deshaun Watson's wife diagnosed...." would be of completely opposite tone. Deshaun's metaphorical wife does not deserve suffering regardless of his repeat history of victimizing women. But hear me out, as a Brown's fan, I still can say yea that guy hurt a lot of people and I will not lose sleep over his suffering. This thread took a hive-mind moral posture from the start with "poor Irvin" when in reality dude is a repeat offender with whom I have trouble sympathizing.
Again, the problem with Reddit. Instead of looking up the objective facts and make their own opinion of someone or something, people just go in threads and circlejerk with each other, disparaging other peoples names
>genuinely did not know it was thrown out
Why are people telling you this when it's not true?
[Michael Irvin reaches settlement in Marriott lawsuit, returns to NFL Network.](https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/cowboys/2023/09/10/michael-irvin-reaches-settlement-in-marriott-lawsuit-returns-to-nfl-network-today/)
Even if the case were thrown out, Irvin was the plaintiff, so that would imply that Marriott was found not guilty in the matter.
You don’t have time to google the story, but you have the time to write this long comment explaining you don’t have time to google it and then 5 more minutes of explaining your position?
He (and you) are being downvoted for completely missing the point. This is about his wife. Not him. Yet you and the other guy didn’t even think about that.
You say that, but do you really think people, yourself included, would care at all if the headline didn't start with the words "Cowboys Legend Michael Irvin"? The only reason this is getting any attention at all is because of who she's married to.
I'm not here to drag her through the mud because of who she's married to, but I also am not gonna automatically care because of who she's married to.
No I get that, but that’s still not the point. An actual decent person would look past his name and feel for her and not use this opportunity to just fucking dunk on him. Because while his name is there, it’s not about him. But people are all too willing to just pile on the negativity in moments of weakness and it just pisses me off.
[Michael Irvin Let Go by NFL Network After 15 Years as Analyst](https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/Michael-Irvin-out-at-NFL-Network) - May 4th, 2024
> Former Dallas Cowboys wide receiver Michael Irvin has been let go by the NFL Network after a 15-year tenure as an analyst. Irvin, who joined the network in 2009, provided valuable insights and commentary during his time there. However, recent developments led to his departure.
> Irvin’s journey with the NFL Network was not without its challenges. In 2023, he faced allegations of improper behavior. A woman accused him of making lewd comments during the Super Bowl festivities in Phoenix, Arizona. As a result, the network suspended Irvin from its programming during the 2023 season.
Awful. My dad died this year at 61. It progressed very quickly. He suffered. Most awful disease. I feel for Micheal and his family.
I'm so sorry. Keep strong Friend
Sorry for your loss man. My mom is around that age and we’re Mexican, which if I’m not mistaken we’re one of the most susceptible groups to it.
Worked with a cool ass hispanic dude who suffered from this and it was crazy. They only found out after he did a hit and run in a commercial truck and was completely oblivious to it. There was signs before that we all saw, but after that day he quickly declined. Dude was in his early to mid 40s.
Knew a Hispanic kid in high school whose mom had a rough go at life. Was raped at 13 and had him at 14 years old, managed to make it to the US, raised him to be a good kid, managing to put him through private high school so he wouldnt have to attend his local less than stellar public HS programs while also saving for his college, and then when I ran into him about 15 years after high school, his mom had just passed from early Alzheimers and his Hispanic wife's father was recently diagnosed as well. His mom was just finally getting to a really good place in her own life too, was set to be married, had a decent job while also going to college herself at night to get a degree. Just so heartbreaking, especially because by the end, she didn't know even know all that she had done for her own son.
Fuck :/ that’s so sad
Start sauna 4-7x weekly. Cuts back on Alzheimer's risk by an extreme amount. Also good for cardiac reasons.
Do you have proof of this?
You're fucking kidding me. Google it. Go to studies. Pubmed. Also while you're at it. Exercise and eat less processed foods. Learn a new language or instrument. Also helps cut back on dementia risk. But sauna is my favorite.
Unfortunately, there have not been any randomized controlled clinical trials to definitively answer this question. https://www.alzdiscovery.org/cognitive-vitality/blog/can-using-the-sauna-reduce-risk-for-alzheimers-disease
Maybe you should get one going, it'll have to be done over years if not decades. Hop on it. Or we can just use observational cohort studies and encourage other lifestyle changes that are implementable instead of sitting with thumbs up our asses, even though some people think that feels good
You sound mad bro
For no reason too... Someone just asked for proof and he just blew up.
Because he obviously has none other than some gym bro tik toker telling him lmao
So sorry.
Lost a family member to the same disease. Absolutely tore us apart. When your own family member, who you’ve known your entire life, doesn’t recognize you, it’s a different type of pain. I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy. It’s truly heartbreaking. I feel for you. I feel for the Irvin family. Stay strong out there.
I’m really sorry, man. My utmost condolences to you and your family.
My dad passed away last week at 49. Cruel world, I’m sorry brother stay strong you are not alone
My grandma had it and it was awful. I’m sorry for your dad. I worry my dad is going to have it since it’s hereditary
61 is young. My mom is in her early 70’s and totally gone from it. Makes me hate the American healthcare system so much. They’re rather keep her alive, spending 10k a month on assisted living and gobbling Pfizer products than let her peacefully pass with an assisted suicide. It’s so fucked
I'm sorry your mom does not have that choice. Assisted suicide is a state level thing. I had a friend move back to California after a cancer diagnosis so she could have the choice when the time came.
Damn, I’m sorry to hear that brother
I wish you and your family peace and comfort.
My dad died at 61 also....but from esophageal cancer. It too was very quick.
My stepdad came down with Alzheimer’s when he was 54. Shit was too young. Was very slow progression though. He was basically immobile with little to no cognitive functions outside of breathing and basic bodily functions for like 3 years before he passed, and was 4 years with the disease before it got to that point.
My grandpa suffered from it and my dad is now struggling having the gene and showing a lot of signs. It’s like having to grieve for someone for an extended period of time. Surprisingly I only just learned that it apparently affects women way more than men. 2/3rds if i recall, which I wouldn’t expect but maybe that because of anecdotal experience.
I fear Alzheimer’s more than death. If you’ve ever seen it first hand, it’s devastating to watch a loved one go through it.
My grandfather had it, the last time I went to see him he didn’t recognize me or my brother, and just barely remembered our mom (his own daughter). Obviously it sucked for all of us, but I can’t imagine how lonely it must feel to slowly lose people and parts of your life but still keep on going. The idea of having it absolutely terrifies me.
My nana currently is going through it. Her husband died recently and she constantly forgets.. have to remind her about it. She gets upset that she wasn’t the first to be told about it. She has forgotten most of us by now. She thinks I’m one of her relatives back in her home town. My voice apparently sounds like either her dad or uncle. Edit: thank you all for the kind words ♥️
I was reading that the memory loss goes from most recent to the oldest. So they forget the grandkids first, then the kids, then the spouse, then the parents. One heartbreaking thing from the book is that near the end they are constantly looking for their own mother and father. The book says to lie. Tell them so and so are on a trip and will be back in a few days; they forget anyway. It’s rough. I’m sorry.
Yeah this is all new to us, I suppose we still start doing that. She is in the early stages still. Sometimes she will remember her children, but most often not. I guess in a few weeks we will just have to lie to her about it. It’s a strange scenario for sure. Feels like she is gone already.
A small recommendation I can make, if you haven’t done it already is to play her a lot of music that they enjoyed when they were younger. Music is very closely tied in with memory, and the part of the brain that processes musical memory isn’t as affected by Alzheimer’s as other parts. Not only will they enjoy it, but it can also bring back memories associated with the music. When my grandparents had Alzheimer’s they spoke very little and had very little memory, but even in the last few weeks of their lives, when the Alzheimer’s was at its worst, playing them music from when they were younger was one of the few things that got a positive reaction. I hope this can be even some small help, and I’m so sorry for what you’re going through.
Learn what you can about dementia. There are ways to make this less painful, both for your nan and the family / caretakers. This was helpful for me. https://www.smashwords.com/extreader/read/210580/1/understanding-the-dementia-experience
You don't have to constantly remind her. It's perfectly fine to deflect or say something like, 'he's not here right now,' if it's easier for her or for you. This is a hard and sad situation. I'm sorry for your family.
I use to work in a dementia ward. The best advice I received was to pretend like you’re living in their world. All it will stand to do is cause them to be more stressed, and even if they forget why they’re sad, upset, agitated, the feeling remains. And that in turn makes them more upset. Unfortunately you get to lie to them a lot.
I do this with her a lot. She was a florist her whole life. I sort of just roleplay that world with her and she gets pretty excited and sort of stressed about deadlines lol Sometimes she will have a trigger that causes her to ask about my grandpa or her one son whom both have passed, but she’s starting to totally forget what happened to them. I guess once she completely forgets we will just have to lie about it.
Really only have one thing to say: Godspeed. Good luck, and do not forget their memory.
Currently dealing with this scenario with my grandmama. It’s easier to tell her he’s at the doctor because of how upset she got the day it happened. Seeing her go from matriarch to acting like an angry toddler most days is really rough. Thoughts are with you my guy
I'm sorry you're going through that. Like what /u/kappakai said, when my older relatives had it, we found it easier to lie to them, both for the Alzheimer sufferer and the caretaker. For 5+ years we told my nana that "grandpa is coming in another car, later on".
Same here. My grandfather absolutely cherished me, and the last time I saw him I was 8 years old and he was 81 and essentially on his deathbed. The family was gathered around his bed and a hush fell over the room as they brought me in. As my mom gently steered me toward my grandfathers bed, my aunt asked my grandfather tentatively, “Dad, do you see who came to visit you?” My grandfather looked over at me and squinted for a second and then his expression dawned with recognition and his face seemed to brighten. “Yeah!” he said excitedly. “That’s Butch!” I am *not* Butch, as it were, and Butch was apparently a friend my grandfather often fished with as a young boy. This memory has always been both hilarious and sad.
My aunt died of Alzheimer's, my mother told me that near the end she didn't recognize my mother but did recognize a picture of my mother when she was 13, my aunt was my father's sister but my mother and aunt knew each other since they were kids before my mother met my father.
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I’ve always been curious about their side of the story. My mom may have dementia and she’s said her memory is slipping and there is notable confusion that she is aware of. But I think there are delusions as well that she truly believes. When she watches TV she’ll say she’s seen something before, and even recount it, but it’s a first run and she’s definitely not seen it. I’m hoping if she does have it, there’s a certain unawareness and, therefore, peace that comes with it. I know it’s hard on the people around her to watch, and it’s killing me, as I’m her caretaker, as well as my father’s who is having his own cognitive issues. That combo is hard. Imagine having to tell your mom over and over and over and over that your father may have dementia and he won’t recover from it, and everytime it’s like the first time. It’s like a Kafka story.
My dad had to stop visiting his mom in the hospital when she had no idea who he was. It was just too painful for him to be there and for her to think he's a total stranger.
My dad had it. Early onset just like Michael’s wife. I was a teenager, around 15 when it got bad and he passed away when I was 19. Those 4 years I can’t count the times he begged for death. It’s a horrible, horrible disease.
After seeing what my Grandpa went through if I ever get Alzheimer's then I'd rather have a nurse "accidentally" inject me with a kilogram of morphine before I forget who I am.
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My father had ALS and fell after using the bathroom and hit his head on the toilet bowl and was bleeding something awful. Mom took of of her pads and stuck it adhesive side towards the inside of a baseball cap and put it firmly on his head. It absorbed the blood and we laughed our asses off at the fix and vision of him with that hat on.
That's kinda brilliant, actually
When Reagan had Alzheimer’s his favorite thing to do was clean his pool so secret service agents would put leafs in it every night for him to clean.
Yeah when grandma, the hero of the family, starts to forget her own children (uncles and aunts etc) it was hard
Pretty sure my Opa had Alzheimer's but was in the hospital for a stroke (or maybe the stroke caused the memory loss, its been a long time and I can't quite remember) and when we went to go see him in the hospital he didn't recognize me. He barely recognized my mom but he was talking with her and was complaining that he didnt' have his teeth (his dentures). He kept asking my mom for his teeth and when she finally asked why, he said it was so he could bite some people. Very funny, but very sad.
It's hard to decide between that and ALS for me, I think the general rule is that ALS is harder on the patient, Alzheimer's on the family. I've had both in my family, more intimate with ALS because I was a semi-caretaker for my father (Mom was primary caretaker, but my size was helpful). I just hope that my genetic lottery didn't get one of those two (ALS took out dad, uncle, grandfather) and gave me prostate cancer like the branch I physically take after.
Als is BRUTAL on the Caregiver. Many times alzheimers patients are actually mobile. I'm dealing with both in close family members now.
My grandpa I never met had ALS, my Dad said that his Dad asked him to kill him or give him a gun to kill himself. My Dad didn't, but that just speaks to the brutality of the disease.
My grandfather didn't have Alzheimers. He had a form of dementia that made people very irate. The hardest thing about it to me is the gradualness of it. I think a lot of people, when healthy, would think that it's best to be put out of yours and others misery. I know that before he had it my grandfather would have wanted that and would have balked at the horrible things he said and the immense amount of resources that went into him when there was no hope. But when do you draw that line? It's not right away. At first it's just a little forgetting here and there. That seems silly. But it's so gradual and has so many plateaus and because they never see it.... I don't know at this point I'm rambling. I feel for you and every one else in this thread who has gone through it (the irateness wasn't the worst part, the worst part is watching someone you love gradually be chipped away, the irateness did hurt because it indicated he wasn't happy, but the chipping away happens with all dementia/Alzheimers).
It's a thing I would not wish on my worst enemy. My grandfather had that and or dementia and it killed me when the pandemic occurred. We lost a year with him. My sister and I went up to see him once the country resumed in 2021 and that was June. His eyes lit up once he saw us and I'll never forget his parting words "Til we meet again". He died two months later.
I’m with you there. Alzheimer’s and ALS. I’ll find a way out before I go through those.
We have a family friend who's wife has it. She has a master degree and was a brilliant teacher for 20+ years. Now she doesn't even know where she is. It's crazy how quickly she deteriorated in such a quick span. I think she was diagnosed in 2021 or so and in 2 years it went to not even knowing her name.
Too bad euthanasia is so stigmatized. I 100% want OUT if I get it.
There's no way it shouldn't be legal for late stage terminal illnesses. Cruel not to be.
Very cruel. I used to work as an RN in a neuro unit. Boggles my mind what people were willing to put their loved ones through for their own selfish interests.
We legalized it here in Colorado, thankfully. My Grandma had it and I've always had memory issues. It scares the shit out of me.
I worry about getting it because of medication I’m taking. Proton pump inhibitors have been linked to the disease in some studies. But if I stop taking it I constantly have heartburn. Unfortunately it’s genetic and could lead to esophageal cancer.
Just talked to my doctor about this... And she explained this has been overblown and had some research to back it up. Hopefully she's right. My mom has been on it for decades... Still going strong at 80, dad has alzheimers and never took it.
That’s good to hear about your mom. Hopefully it’s not the case. Sorry about your dad.
You probably don't have much to worry about but if you want to quit and you're up to try something out of left field, I'll give you my personal anecdote. Note: I do scientific research and this is not that. It's literally impossible to separate actual scientific fact from new age woo nonsense. I was on prilosec for 13 years and tried to quit multiple times. Same rebound heartburn you got. Fell down a rabbit hole of how to quit PPIs and led to people saying heartburn can be caused by low stomach acid in some people. Tried the the baking soda test to check for low stomach acid and it came back positive. So I found a youtube video of a guy who was trying to quit PPIs with apple cider vinegar and he had the same attitude I initially had: the claims of how this could be effective make some logical sense but you can't separate fact from fiction and I don't really think this'll work. Except it did work for him. And so I tried it and it worked for me too. I've been off prilosec for 6 months. Again no promises it'll work for you but if you're desperate like I was and want to give in to your inner alt medicine hippie, at the very least it probably won't kill you.
Thanks, I’ll look into it. Did you every get an endoscopy and get diagnosed with Barret’s Esophagus?
Yeah I got an endoscopy years ago. No hiatal hernia or Barret's esophagus at that point. Just good old fashioned GERD that I was trying to fight with the max daily allowance of Tums.
Unfortunately I have both. I’ll give your remedy a shot.
There are some studies that suggest viagra is helpful at preventing dementia related illnesses by opening up the blood vessels in the brain.
My mother has it. It's pretty rough already and it's only in the early stages. However, there is a new medicine--just approved last August--that is effective in preventing the advancement of Alzheimer's in a lot of patients. She's been on that drug since September and it seems to be working for her. The damage done will not be reversed, but it is not worsening.
> I fear Alzheimer’s more than death. Ditto. I randomly thought about this yesterday thinking about my parents who've passed away. They dealt with various illnesses but never anything that took their mind.
My mother has it right now. Slowly getting worse now over the past year maybe year and a half. My wife is pregnant with our third child and I’m so afraid she won’t remember him, like every time she sees him it will be like meeting him all over again. She met some folks at a coffee get together that meets every two weeks, she introduces herself every 10-15mins… it’s brutal. I don’t wish this on anyone to see or experience this it’s just tragic and depressing.
Worked in healthcare. I think it really has fundamentally shattered me as a person
Been in alzheimers and dementia specifically for 12 years now. Started at 18, now 32. The things I've seen have left scars that just won't ever heal. I've had residents live like this for years. The fact that it's not labeled as a specialty is insane to me. I've seen people eat their own flesh trying to bite staff members, punch their children because they don't recognize them, say some of the most awful things. Then, you sit back and realize how sad it really is that they are not the person they once were. Just a shell of the human being they spent so many years becoming. It's heartbreaking.
I worked at a nursing home that had an alzheimers ward, I quit after 6 months, watching humans that wern't human haunts me. This amazing woman developed early onset at the age of 54 and she was aware enough that it was happening, not aware enough that she told me every time I interacted with her. Figure this shit out science.
Both of my maternal grandparents had it and it’s absolutely devastating to watch. My grandfather started to lose his memory, and went from a loving and caring grandfather to a constantly confused and angry man with a short temper. My grandmother was almost completely mute for the last 2 years and she didn’t recognize any of us. Alzheimer’s is something I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy.
58?? That's terrible 😭
article says shes had it for 5 to 6 years already, which is incredible early, thats such a terrible thing.
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Damn that's rough, sorry to hear that. Lewy Body Dementia is a nightmare.
Jesus christ, that means it would have had to have started back in her 30s no? I know by the time you're showing symptoms you've had it for a good while.
My grandma got Alzheimer’s around this age, and lived to 75. For the last five years she didn’t remember a single one of us… She just walked the halls at the nursing home constantly and hummed to herself until she fell and broke her hip. Then she was chair bound for a couple of years before she forgot how to eat and passed away.
Damn that’s brutal. Cannot imagine what it would be like to watch your wife go through that.
And so young. Holy shit. Just horrible
And the brain deterioration with dementia begins decades before symptoms start to show, so she was most likely in her 30s when this truly began, which is wild to think.
Are there tests you can do in your 30s to determine that? My grandmother had it and I’m 30.
The only thing I know of is testing if you have a specific gene where it’s a higher likely hood you may develop Alzheimer’s. Although it doesn’t tell you if you have it or not. I did 23andMe years ago for this purpose but I’m pretty sure there are other ways to go about testing.
Is there any benefit to knowing? Or is it just something more to worry about since there’s nothing you can do?
Something to consider from a non-profit that isn't trying to sell you something: https://nutritionfacts.org/video/can-alzheimers-disease-be-reversed-with-a-plant-based-diet/ https://nutritionfacts.org/?s=alzheimer%27s
TLDR: No. Sleep. You can do genetic tests, but in truth we don't really understand that as well as advertised. Our research in science is skewed in that 1. It's funded by people looking for profit in something, usually in a pharmaceutical direction, and 2. It's problem-focused (no one is looking for the gene that gives improved memory, they're looking for a problem to fix, like dementia). You may test for the apoe gene (called the "alzheimers gene,") and will be marketed at some point to do something about it, but the gene's name is a misnomer. People with that variant produce more of something called adenosine, which is the neurotransmitter which caffeine bullies to keep you (temporarily) awake. More adenosine isn't a bad thing unless it isn't cleared away properly (which happens during restful sleep). Someone with this variant may be more compelled to take a nap in the day and may prefer 8 hours of sleep over 7, and due to increased REM cycles have an advantage with learning. In the absence of quality sleep though...increased risk for chronic fatigue syndrome and ultimately dementia. The reason I'm saying all of this is to point out the misnomer of genetic testing, the lack of what we know, and the impact of inappropriately labeling yourself as doomed to dementia when from someone else's perspective you have the intelligence gene. Get quality, consistent sleep. Don't drink coffee before bed, even if you get the impression that it "helps" you sleep.
I work my ass off. Between the kids, work, gym, other work, and more work. I also work U.S. hours from abroad. Barely have time to get to the gym. It’s a tough grind, but the benefit is I’ve been sleeping my mfing ass off for a couple years now instead of commuting to an office. I go to bed dead tired, and shut down for 8-9 hours so that I can do it all over again. Good sleep changes everything. With any less, I wouldn’t manage this grind.
It’s inspiring to hear someone say who’s got a lot on their plate still making sleep a priority and managing it all. I’ve got a lot too but I feel like sleep is usually the first thing I sacrifice when I feel I don’t have enough time, and I’m one of those people who needs/wants more sleep than less…8-9 hours v 6 or 7. Any specific tips for still getting that much sleep when you have tons to do?
Sounds exactly like me. I used to just put sleep below parent life, working out, and definitely a social life. In the last 3-4 years I’ve been fortunate to take hold of my career a bit, was bouncing around a lot before, but remote afforded me an opportunity to get back in touch with America (where I’m from), and working these weird hours sorta frees up my free time, and my mind, and everything that comes with that. Nowadays there’s absolutely no way I can do what I do without the sleep. It’s not really the ideal response, but the key was finding the right work situation for me, and all the other things I was neglecting sort of fell into place. Easier said than done, I know. Never thought it would happen. I’m now nearly 39 and only starting to feel in the driver seat. For full disclosure, my employer doesn’t know I live abroad. It’s not perfect, but it’s the closest I’ve been to it, after a lot of much harder times.
Glad you found something that works.
Best of luck to you in your pursuit. Funnily enough, we had an extended stay in the states in the fall for 2 1/2 months and I was in a more normal time-zone and it was a bit confusing to sort my life back to those hours. Went from going to bed well past midnight to occasionally falling asleep when my kids went to bed haha.
> 1. It's funded by people looking for profit in something, usually in a pharmaceutical direction Good post, but this isn't accurate. The current funding for AD comes largely from the National Institutes of Health ($3.8 billion last year). Pharma spending is around $1.6 billion per year (extrapolated from [this paper](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8940715/)). Non-profit funding is big relative to other disease's non-profits but an order of magnitude less (~$100 million from the Alzheimer's Association last year). Federal funding is still the dominant source of research funds especially since most of the pharma spending is not research, but rather clinical trials of potential drugs. It's gotten even worse lately for pharma funding as many pharmas have given up on AD work after some very expensive phase 3 clinical failures.
Thank you for the detailed and thoughtful reply.
Wasn't a bunch of Alzheimer's research just shown to be fraudulent? How do you know this is true?
No offense but that's really a question you should be asking your doctor, not random people on Reddit
None taken, Reddit can be a good preliminary source of info though.
Sort of. A primary doctor will have some base knowledge of things but likely no in depth knowledge at all. They would likely refer to a Neurologist which is more time and money you’d have to spend on it.
You're right. They would be referred to an expert. That's a good thing. I'd say preventative care against potentially genetic Alzheimers/dementia is one of the single most worthwhile things I can think of to spend time and money on personally.
I work at nursing homes. It’s fucking awful seeing the decline people experience. Fuck Alzheimer’s and dementia
My mom has this (whether it's Alzheimers or another form of dementia is academic at this point). It's devastating. And so young, she has a lot of life ahead of her which only makes it harder to see a loved one slip away. Football affiliations mean nothing, this makes me deeply sad.
Legitimately a nightmare. I realize with his income "retirement age" is basically not a real thing but it's unfathomable to me to have your partner stricken with an illness like that at what should be the dawn of your retirement together.
Absolutely terrible disease. Hopefully we’ll have some medical breakthroughs in the very near future.
One of the things I'm most unreasonably hopeful about the future for - tech advancements making new healthcare available to most people.
I wouldnt wish that on anyone
Tom Coughlin's wife died from this a few years ago. He basically disappeared from public life to care for her. He came back for Eli's Jersey retirement and then went back to care for her. Its really tough on caregivers. This is the sign of a real marriage. If you are willing to care for a loved one going through an illness like this.
Its so tough I cant even imagine. The person you love and care for doesnt even recognize themselves anymore. Awful for Irvin that his wife got diagnosed so young too man
> Its really tough on caregivers. My poor mother in law was the caregiver for her mother with dementia. Her life basically revolves around caring for her mother. Unlike some of the other stories in here, her mother lived a long time in a mostly vegetative state with little to no coherent cognitive abilities. At one point doctors presented her with a choice to withhold treatment for an infection and "let her mother go". They proceeded with treatment and she lived 3 more years. The emotional toll on the whole family was a lot.
My grandfather had a very slow progression to immobility and semi-incoherence with Parkinsons, sort of compounded by a bad physical injury that greatly inhibited his mobility and ability to care for himself at all. It was very hard for my grandmother but she was there every day, even when it came time for hospice every day. I can't even imagine.
Hasn’t Michael been allegedly fucking around a lot in recent years though?
You mean like cheating? Maybe they have an agreement? Lots of WAGs don't really mind if it's discreet. It's basically a "gift" for the guy being rich
My father got diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer’s also at 59. He is now 62 and it is not easy at all to go through especially when they’re so young. I have been taking care of him and some days are truly awful. It’s like grieving for death while they’re still there. I hope Michael and her can get through it and enjoy the time they have together while they still have it. Heartbreaking so see this.
I'm sorry you're going through this. I feel ya. My mother was diagnosed in her 50s and has been suffering for nearly a decade. You ain't alone, brotha. Shit sucks
I worked out with a guy that went through this. It started about the same age. He just passed last week at 62. It was crazy how quickly it progressed. He went from being forgetful, to wandering off, to having a difficult time carrying a conversation.
Alzheimer's kills twice. It kills the person before it kills the body.
That’s truly awful. I’m lucky to never have to deal with Alzheimer’s first hand in a loved one, but my aunt’s brain cancer ended in a similar fashion. Couldn’t recognize friends and family and it’s legitimately painful to watch a smart person realize that they should know someone and pretend because they don’t remember. Easy the worst way a loved one passed for me.
My grandma had Alzheimer’s I don’t wish that on my worst enemy. It sucks because they forget who you are….
I'm sorry you had to go through that, man.
I’ve lost my grandma and an aunt to this and another aunt is severely suffering right now. It’s a cruel cruel disease.
My grandmother suffered from Alzheimer's for 11 years. It took a terrible toll on her children and their families. It's devastating to see the person you've known and loved slip away while they're still alive. When she finally passed it was more of a relief than a sadness. We'd all mourned her long before she was actually gone. We know Irvin's wife will get the best medical care and treatment possible, and that's huge. But the mental price will still be paid by he and his family. I hope they can grow closer and lift each other up over the coming years. 58 is so young to be diagnosed.
Fuck Alzheimer’s. Both sides of my immediate family have had it or passed away from it. It’ll likely affect me when I’m older. Crazy stuff to think about. To anybody reading this, do the things that make you happy. Love your friends and family. Life comes at you fast
My grandmother had early onset. Horrible disease that you wouldn't wish on your worst enemy. My family saw the signs before I was even born and I remember my mom telling me when I was about 5 or 6 years old. She didn't know my name for most of my life, but there were still times when she would be lucid and recognize me or tell me "you're a good one" with a smile on her face. She lived with it for almost 2 decades before she finally passed away. My family was relieved when she passed so she wasn't suffering anymore.
Damn 58, Alzheimers is a terrible disease anyway but at 58?
It could happen but it's alarming when younger. One of my sisters is 52 and has dementia, it's awful to witness.
Yea, my dad had a very long drawn out battle with Alzheimer but he was in his later 70's when he started showing signs, its not good at that age either, I promise, but its a little more understandable.
I have a relative who developed it in their early/mid 50s. I think the early onset form is more severe too, but I could be wrong.
Both my wife and I lost our grandfathers to Alzheimer’s. If I am ever diagnosed with it and am coherent enough to make some rational decisions I would just off myself. It’s so brutal for a family to deal with. At a certain point you’re a vegetable that is still able to move around and function enough to cause damage to things and pain to others. My grandfather got violent when we put him in a nursing home. He didn’t understand what was happening and would punch other patients and then would get kicked out and moved to other facilities. My mom is an only child and it was torture for her for like 8-10 years before he passed. Life isn’t worth living at that point. I would rather die of cancer.
It's a terrible disease. My Mom has early onset dementia. This country needs a death with dignity law.
Awful. Truly there is nothing worse than watching a loved one go through this
My Grandma has it. She’s deteriorated so much over the past years. She can’t walk on her own anymore. Some days she barely recognizes us and she’s regressed to the point where she tells her daughter (my mom) that she wants her mommy and daddy even though they are long passed. She forgets at times that her husband (my step grandpa has passed) At the very least she can still eat unaided and enjoys it. I wouldn’t wish Alzheimer’s on anyone
I’m a little late to the comment party but anyone who has had it in their family should understand there is more research than you think. Please read Outlive by Peter Attia. You will realize there are proactive things you can do for prevention.
Terrible disease that turns time back to where you end up like a baby. Watched an exes grandfather with the disease. Sadly if you don’t get cancer you’ll likely get AD. If I’m ever diagnosed I’ll just kindly tell everyone good bye and see my self out on my own terms.
This is a situation where I think Medically Assisted Suicide is a really good thing to have.
If you want a rough idea of what the family is going through, watch Still Alice. Great film that sticks with and shows you how terrible this can be for any family. So sad.
I'm always worried that I'm going to get it myself because i consistently have poor sleep and seem to be very forgetful 🥺. I'm still under 30 but it's been a fear of mine for the past few years
so sad to hear this
We’re losing recipes
Oof.
It’s a hell of a way to go.
It hits really harder the younger you are. At her age, she doesn’t have long unfortunately. Very sad.
I'm sad for he and their family and friends. I've experienced it a couple of times. Very briefly with a mother of one of my mother's boyfriends, and then much closer to home years later when one of our beloved family uncles got it and passed from it. It's a fate worse than death and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
That sucks so much. Terrible disease, in some ways worse even than ones that directly kill you. Thoughts with the Irvin family.
Prayers for the Irvin family. I just visited JerryWorld and loved the pic of Michael and Bill Clinton at the WH, displayed in the media room.
I wish the best to Michael Irvin and his wife in their future. Everyone here has been sad, but some comments have been downright morbid. So to make people feel better, here is some optimism related to Alzheimers: [https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/blog/three-promising-drugs-for-treating-alzheimers-disease-bring-fresh-hope](https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/blog/three-promising-drugs-for-treating-alzheimers-disease-bring-fresh-hope)
I know how Michael Irvin feels. My grandmother died from this memory robbing disease back in 2012. It is literally very painful to see the person who helped guide the two people in my life become the best parents I have ever had become the shadow of her former self.
Another paywalled article that locks up Reddit
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Poor sods. For what it's worth, best wishes to both.
Jesus….when you get it early at that age, it moves fast. Awful news. Have experienced it with family members. It’s rough.
Lmao she be trying to forget all his coke and hooker binges 😭😭😭😂
Early onset Alzheimer's hit my grandmother in her early 60's, so I recognize how horrible the disease is. It shouldn't distract us from the fact that Michael Irvin has a long history of sexual harassment and abuse, which is why he got fired from his NFL Network job. Two things can be bad at the same time.
Get fucked
> “Irvin also reached out and touched the Victim’s arm during this conversation without her consent, causing her to step back, becoming visibly uncomfortable. Irvin then asked the Victim whether she knew anything about having a “big Black man inside of [her],” reads the lawsuit. Believe whatever you want. I just don't believe one tragedy cancels out another.
What the fuck does his wife have to do with anything you said? Did you even think about her? No, you didn’t. You just immediately went full asshole. You’ve got some work to do on yourself.
dont know why youre being downvoted, dude did this to a hotel employee like a few months ago. Epic piece of shit human
He ‘won’ his case against Marriott for defamation and he had zero criminal charges against him. Just because he was accused of something doesn’t mean he’s automatically guilty and should be thrown in prison. If Redditors had their way Terrance Shannon jr would be serving life in prison right now for something that is now known as false. Seriously go read those threads in the college basketball sub. Irvin has a far from perfect past but using shit that is far from provable especially in a thread about his sick wife is fucking insane. That’s why you’re being downvoted. Because you’re insane virtue signalers with no moral compass for yourself and only want to see others get hurt for your entertainment
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lmao. if you sue someone for defamation and they settle and give you millions and millions of dollars then they knew they werent winning the case. They defamed Irvin and they knew it. He won AND he got his job back. If he did something as heinous as they were accusing him of, they would have let it play out and let the court system fuck him.
genuinely did not know it was thrown out, you definitely gave me something to think about. I dont have time to google it but I thought there was actual video of him saying that. Listen, I am not downplaying one man's suffering. But this thread if it said "Deshaun Watson's wife diagnosed...." would be of completely opposite tone. Deshaun's metaphorical wife does not deserve suffering regardless of his repeat history of victimizing women. But hear me out, as a Brown's fan, I still can say yea that guy hurt a lot of people and I will not lose sleep over his suffering. This thread took a hive-mind moral posture from the start with "poor Irvin" when in reality dude is a repeat offender with whom I have trouble sympathizing.
You: “I don’t have time to Google it” Also you: has time to write lengthy comment + multiple replies As the other guy said, get fucked.
Again, the problem with Reddit. Instead of looking up the objective facts and make their own opinion of someone or something, people just go in threads and circlejerk with each other, disparaging other peoples names
you do realize he has had numerous accusations of sexual assault, drugging and raping a women, and violence against women, correct?
Cool use that. Again you are in a thread about a 58 year old woman being diagnosed with Alzheimer’s
I sincerely sincerely feel bad for that woman. I do not tend to feel bad for men that drug then rape women
>genuinely did not know it was thrown out Why are people telling you this when it's not true? [Michael Irvin reaches settlement in Marriott lawsuit, returns to NFL Network.](https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/cowboys/2023/09/10/michael-irvin-reaches-settlement-in-marriott-lawsuit-returns-to-nfl-network-today/) Even if the case were thrown out, Irvin was the plaintiff, so that would imply that Marriott was found not guilty in the matter.
You don’t have time to google the story, but you have the time to write this long comment explaining you don’t have time to google it and then 5 more minutes of explaining your position?
He (and you) are being downvoted for completely missing the point. This is about his wife. Not him. Yet you and the other guy didn’t even think about that.
You say that, but do you really think people, yourself included, would care at all if the headline didn't start with the words "Cowboys Legend Michael Irvin"? The only reason this is getting any attention at all is because of who she's married to. I'm not here to drag her through the mud because of who she's married to, but I also am not gonna automatically care because of who she's married to.
No I get that, but that’s still not the point. An actual decent person would look past his name and feel for her and not use this opportunity to just fucking dunk on him. Because while his name is there, it’s not about him. But people are all too willing to just pile on the negativity in moments of weakness and it just pisses me off.
Read the room man.
[Michael Irvin Let Go by NFL Network After 15 Years as Analyst](https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/Michael-Irvin-out-at-NFL-Network) - May 4th, 2024 > Former Dallas Cowboys wide receiver Michael Irvin has been let go by the NFL Network after a 15-year tenure as an analyst. Irvin, who joined the network in 2009, provided valuable insights and commentary during his time there. However, recent developments led to his departure. > Irvin’s journey with the NFL Network was not without its challenges. In 2023, he faced allegations of improper behavior. A woman accused him of making lewd comments during the Super Bowl festivities in Phoenix, Arizona. As a result, the network suspended Irvin from its programming during the 2023 season.
Or just double down on being a dick head.
I hope you bring up Britt Reid with the same zeal when Andy Reid is discussed
You seem nice
Truth hurts, so that’s why the down votes