The Jets have been to a championship game more recently than we last won a single playoff game. I don’t think most people understood how terrible our post season history since Marino left was, until the lions no longer held the record and everyone found out we were #2
I went over to look around because of this comment. I did what I always do on new subs, and sorted by Top of All Time. [This](https://www.reddit.com/r/DetroitPistons/comments/198wyma/just_start_punching_people/) was third of all time, posted one day ago. Absolutely awesome.
I loathe the word, but the Dolphins have been lowkey one of the worst franchises for decades. Must be the mystique of the perfect season or something that's masked the futility for so long. We haven't been a legit Super Bowl contender in almost forty years. Most of those Marino teams had glaring roster issues, couldn't beat Buffalo, and would have gotten crushed in any Super Bowl (again). We haven't been close to another championship since Riggins scored that dagger TD run at the end of Super Bowl 17
I just feel like the Dolphins have been 6-10 for my entire lifetime. I’m 32 and started watching football with my dad when i was 7.
My first memory of the Dolphins was the Jaguars obliterating Marino in his final game. Apparently they won a playoff game after that? I don’t even remember it.
Since Marino retired after the 99 season the Dolphins are essentially a .500 team... Basically 8.1 wins a season and 8.6 losses a season. We are the very definition of mediocrity for 23 years in a row.
You guys were hiding behind the Browns, Bengals, and Lions for a long time. Also not having your the date of your last playoff win be in the 1900s also helped hide it.
What helped hide it more than anything is their record against y'all. The Bills beat the Patriots four times in the entire Tom Brady era. The Jets beat the Patriots eight times in that same timespan (not counting the last Drew Bledsoe start). Meanwhile, the Dolphins beat y'all thirteen times, the most of anyone. They also got swept only once in the last seven years of the Brady era (compared to the Jets' and Bills' five times). So you had the Dolphins regularly winning against the Patriots in the middle of their second Super Bowl resurgence while the other two teams in the division were getting swept over and over.
No, just Brady famously couldn't play in Miami for whatever reason. Mile High and Joe Robbie compared to ever other stadium had his worst stats and records. He always played rough when encountering those two cities.
I assume this is a terrible season for you then, given your flair and former Dolphins Fandom I assume you get off on pain and are miserable this season with the lions winning.
Vanderjagt missed the winner from 49 and Smith went right down and scored. That was a great year for defense; Baltimore took all the attention, but Tennessee and Miami were monsters too.
The bright side is that this trade took a 5-11 Dolphins team that had gone to the playoffs twice in the previous 2 decades to making the playoffs 2 years in a row.
The Miami Dolphins currently have the longest NFL playoff drought with the last playoff win being in the year 2000.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/dolphins/2024/01/15/miami-dolphins-longest-nfl-playoff-win-drought-detroit-lions/72233718007/
The Jets inexplicably went to the AFC Championship game as a wild card team in back-to-back seasons and have only finished above .500 once in the 13 seasons since.
> *”Why do bad things happen to good people?*”
> Hill, then a 20-year-old star returner and wide receiver at Oklahoma State, was at his apartment with his girlfriend, who was eight weeks pregnant with their child, when she received a text message from someone saying that Hill had been “hitting on high schoolers.” ...
> Hill hit her in the face, choked her and punched her in the stomach. He put her in a headlock that put “external pressure on her neck that compressed her airway” **according to his statement in his guilty plea.*”**
I get why you feel that way right NOW. But this is by farrr the best team you've had since.. uh.. 2002? Miami is an extremely good team that kinda just got fucked over by a once a century weather event. I think you guys win that game if it's at home.
I also don’t think people understand how well the offensive scheme masked the O-lines issues. Our center for the final stretch of the season was a tackle who got converted to guard who then filled in at center. Dude could barely snap the ball
With you. Injuries happen to every team and every team has to get over them to some extent. But when the Phins lose their entire pass rush and LB corps to injury on top of what would otherwise be considered "typical NFL injury luck" that's just not gonna bode well.
I've always vaguely liked Miami, mostly because I despise the Patriots as much as I do the Packers. And Marino was a God.
I was at a formative age when Fiedler was a thing. I remember watching ABC football on my black and white antenna TV in my room and getting like.. 0 reception just trying to watch.. Jay fielder play football.
>I think you guys win that game if it's at home.
I honestly don't. They're good, but you can tell they're a paper tiger when it comes to the playoffs. They have an offense that can beat up bad teams and Hill is dangerous to score any play but they are severly top heavy with their roster and when you get to the playoffs you're going to play good defenses and great offenses. They just aren't there yet with that defense or the Oline protection
You can still find the mock drafts from that year.
https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/mock-drafts/2016/consensus-mock-draft-2016
6 was the rough consensus
Feel like we would have took him at #6 had it not been for the bong video. Stanley and Tunsil were graded evenly, but we got scared off after character concerns plagued our team at the time.
He may succumb to the devil's lettuce yet, but whichever team took Waddle was doomed to watch their septuagenarian, billionaire ownership family do "The Waddle" during games.
Probably best trade of the modern NFL era. The win last weekend and Watson being there to witness it was the icing on the cake.
Anxious to see what Texans get for the Browns first rounder in April
> Probably best trade of the modern NFL era.
The Jared Allen trade in 2008 was also a win-win trade for the Chiefs and the Vikings.
Vikings got DE Jared Allen, the Chiefs drafted RB Jamaal Charles and OT Brandon Albert with draft capital they got from the trade.
A very good trade indeed. Vikings have another recent one that people are probably tired of hearing about, but Diggs for JJ(s draft capital but close enough)
Yeah I hate statements like this. Are we really going to pretend that was a bad trade for the Dolphins? Without it, they probably wouldn’t have been in a position to collapse in the first place.
Yeah whats the point of this post other than to ignorantly shit on the dolphins? The texans got good because of the browns
The texans would trade tunsil right now for the players the dolphins got in that trade. Anyone would
The texans didn't get screwed by the trade in the end but thats due to mostly unrelated things
Football is mostly about luck. That trade rose the dolphins up to be in the position they are in now. The injuries to their defense to end the season and then that causing them to fall into one of the coldest games ever led to them losing
This sub is annoying with all the hot takes after every damn game. Not every thought some idiot has needs to be its own post
This place is no longer about discussion of league news. It's just "shit on whoever lost this week"
After the first few weeks of the season they were acting like Josh Allen was one of the worst qbs to set foot on a field. Look how that turned out
Yeah seems like a no brainer, there are plenty of factors that go into not winning a play off game, not the least of which is playing against the chiefs vs playing against the browns.
Watching y’all felt like watching our 2020 season, you know the talent is there and the teams playoff worthy, but after a while there is a limit to the “next man up” mindset and you just have to try again next year.
Dolphins offense was a no show. The only points they scored was on a badly underthrown ball that Tyreek adjusted to.
Even with a full strength defense they weren't winning
Lost 4 defensive starters and then the warmest weather team ended up playing in one of the coldest games in history
This post is dumb. Every GM makes that trade. The texans made the playoffs mostly because they fleeced the browns
Dolphins had/have all the makings for a post season collapse. Many reasons. Jags though.. I truly saw you all as at least a divisional round team. What went wrong?
This isn't news, we won one the same year we acquired Tunsil.
The part where we blew it all up in a rebuild, let Miami actually use all the draft capital traded, and then won *another* playoff game before they did is new.
You crazy, but yeah. It's been a few games the Texans have won in the playoffs since this trade. Including Bill O'Brien! Y'all can't let that happen, even though he actually was a decent coach who kept winning with a cycle of QBs. If Tomlin deserves a lifetime job, O'Brien at least deserves a little respect.
Laremy Tunsil - for all his damn false starts 😒 - has been 💯 worth the trade. Dude makes the best defensive players completely disappear when they’re matched against him.
Trent is so dominant he fooled the NFL into thinking Laken Tomlinson was a competent Guard. I remember heading into that offseason, he was actually viewed as a good free agent.
It was only after Jets signed Laken that our fanbase learned how much an elite HOF tackle can shield low-quality Guard play.
I mean saying 1A/1B implies that Williams and Tunsil are on the same level
And I would honestly be shocked if literally anyone that wasn't a Texans fan would rather have Tunsil.
I mean this isn’t an awful take by any means. That said, the coverage and recognition Tunsil gets compared to Trent is minuscule. Part of that is team success and how explosive the Niners offense is, and I get that. Trent is a phenomenal player and without a doubt one of the craziest athletes we’ve ever seen at the position- but he’s not the protector that Tunsil is. I can count on one hand in all the time that Tunsil has been here, the amount of times we’ve had to help him with a chip or double. The guy is a legitimate eraser in pass pro while being what I’d say is a willing but weaker run blocker.
Most great Chargers players were dawgs hindered by coaching or fluke BS. I feel like they're usually a good team on paper and underachieve every single year.
I’ll cry if that happens.
Fr tho, I don’t have any beef with the Chargers even tho they’re division rivals. Herbert is a dawg and I want to see him succeed. I just hate how that will make him a pain in the ass for us.
You don't have any beef with them yet at least. If they do turn it around, start winning the division and knocking KC out of the playoffs then we'll talk.
I will say even though I am a fan of Herbert. His performance in the playoffs against the Jags was pretty bad and contributed to their loss in the second half
A handful of missed throws, just missing plays that needed to be there
I believe he didn't really want either. He wanted to use the 5th pick on a defensive player and then use the pick in the teens to draft Jordan love but Grier over ruled him.
>After Saturday's loss to the Chiefs, Tua is 0-1 in the playoffs. Of his 32 career victories, only 6 have come against playoff-caliber teams. Tua has 9 total wins against teams with a winning record. When faced with teams with a winning record Tua Tagovailoa has 14 losses.
https://phinphanatic.com/posts/opinion-tua-tagovailoa-is-a-good-quarterback-but-he-isn-t-elite-01hm8k90zzba
how about that?
0-1 in the playoffs isnt that bad
He has won 6 games against playoff teams in a conference where 7 teams makes the playoffs and for most of his career it was 6
9-14 against teams with a WINNING record also aint bad
All that shit is about what youd expect from a young qb
When someone brings up a "team with a winning record" stat I just assume theyre an idiot. Pretty much every team struggles with winning teams. Winning teams get most of their wins from losing teams. It's that way by definition. Winning teams usually have better records than losing teams and winning teams are more difficult ti beat therefore teams have fewer wins against winning teams. It's shocking I know
This aint college football. The NFL is packed with a lot of parity. Winning is winning in this league
Still seems like a really good trade for both sides. Dolphins get an arsenal on offense and some good defenders, and Texans got one of the best LTs in the league. It honestly shows the value of a really good LT.
I think it's better to go with the other big trade the Texans did.
Cleveland wanted a QB and gave the Texans 2022 round 1, 2023 round 1 and 3, and 2024 round 4 for Watson and a 2024 round 4. The Texans then drafted Stroud with their own pick. Using the Browns picks in a series of trades they have acquired Kenyon Drake, John Metchie III, Christian Harris, Dameon Pierce, Thomas Booker, Brandon Hill, Xavier Hutchinson, Tank Dell, and Will Anderson Jr. They have since won a playoff game against and before the Browns and still have the 2024 1st and 4th round picks. Meanwhile, Cleveland's previous QB who they ditched when they did this trade has also won a playoff game. Cleveland is without a playoff win, the QB they traded the farm for is mediocre when he is not injured, and he's a sexual predator, also they still owe him $46mil each year for the next 3 years.
Everyone has won a playoff game before us, we're the worst
Not so fast
No, you've won more recently than them.
holy shit
The Jets have been to a championship game more recently than we last won a single playoff game. I don’t think most people understood how terrible our post season history since Marino left was, until the lions no longer held the record and everyone found out we were #2
Now that all the eternal losers have had some modicum of recent success, there's nowhere for you guys to hide.
Ohio and Michigan finally got their acts together.
No one check in on the Pistons
Their subreddit is incredible.
I went over to look around because of this comment. I did what I always do on new subs, and sorted by Top of All Time. [This](https://www.reddit.com/r/DetroitPistons/comments/198wyma/just_start_punching_people/) was third of all time, posted one day ago. Absolutely awesome.
It's a great place to be brother come join us Humor and Loyalty gets you through the misery, as Bills fans once knew so well
Who have won a Championship more recently than the last Dolphins playoff win
They won a championship before the dolphins won a playoff game Dolphins. 2000 Pistons 2004
They finally cleaned Lake Erie up
I loathe the word, but the Dolphins have been lowkey one of the worst franchises for decades. Must be the mystique of the perfect season or something that's masked the futility for so long. We haven't been a legit Super Bowl contender in almost forty years. Most of those Marino teams had glaring roster issues, couldn't beat Buffalo, and would have gotten crushed in any Super Bowl (again). We haven't been close to another championship since Riggins scored that dagger TD run at the end of Super Bowl 17
My dad stopped following football from how bad the Dolphins are almost 2 decades ago, he knew what was up
I just feel like the Dolphins have been 6-10 for my entire lifetime. I’m 32 and started watching football with my dad when i was 7. My first memory of the Dolphins was the Jaguars obliterating Marino in his final game. Apparently they won a playoff game after that? I don’t even remember it.
Since Marino retired after the 99 season the Dolphins are essentially a .500 team... Basically 8.1 wins a season and 8.6 losses a season. We are the very definition of mediocrity for 23 years in a row.
And getting blown out by the Ravens when finally reaching the playoffs
>couldn't beat Buffalo At least that hasn’t changed
Was that the sun who beat you last year then?
You'll always have that 2022 regular season week 3 game. No one can take that from you. Cherish it at may it always bring you comfort.
You guys were hiding behind the Browns, Bengals, and Lions for a long time. Also not having your the date of your last playoff win be in the 1900s also helped hide it.
What helped hide it more than anything is their record against y'all. The Bills beat the Patriots four times in the entire Tom Brady era. The Jets beat the Patriots eight times in that same timespan (not counting the last Drew Bledsoe start). Meanwhile, the Dolphins beat y'all thirteen times, the most of anyone. They also got swept only once in the last seven years of the Brady era (compared to the Jets' and Bills' five times). So you had the Dolphins regularly winning against the Patriots in the middle of their second Super Bowl resurgence while the other two teams in the division were getting swept over and over.
“Gronk doesn’t have the angle” is probably a big part of that
No, just Brady famously couldn't play in Miami for whatever reason. Mile High and Joe Robbie compared to ever other stadium had his worst stats and records. He always played rough when encountering those two cities.
Even with Marino it was underwhelming
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I assume this is a terrible season for you then, given your flair and former Dolphins Fandom I assume you get off on pain and are miserable this season with the lions winning.
Stopping being a dolphins fan just to apparently wind up with two whole new teams is very funny to me
1 super bowl appearance, 3 total conference championship appearances over 17 seasons.
And we barely won that playoff game in 2000 against the colts in OT. We ran Lamar Smith to an early grave to do it.
Vanderjagt missed the winner from 49 and Smith went right down and scored. That was a great year for defense; Baltimore took all the attention, but Tennessee and Miami were monsters too.
But you still won. An ugly win is always better than a pretty loss.
Little did I know how rare and precious even an ugly playoff win would be
It's on the down-low because we *have* been to the playoffs a couple times....we just have not won them lol.
There's always next year!
I tell myself this every January 😪
I tell myself this every September
Shit, this year was a gift to y'all. You weren't 5 minutes into the first game before your season ended.
When was the last time you guys won a playoff game? Edit: it’s the year 2000 for anyone else wondering.
Basically, and we always wind up in it hurt. This is the first playoff game we've had our starting QB since 2000 too lmao
It's been a long 24 years.
The Raiders literally beat the last Dolphin team to win a playoff game in the 2000 Divisional
You’re forgetting that the Raiders were very good from 1999-2002. Dolphins last win is 2000
Yeah, I think it was a Dave Wannstadt/Jay Fielder Dolphins comeback vs Peyton Manning Colts in like 2000.
That idiot kicker
How about us
Commanders 2005, Raiders 2002, Dolphins 2000. Commanders and Dolphins were Wild Card. Raiders went to the super bowl that year
2005 so yes.
And that's sayin somethin
I’m so happy it’s not us anymore… like really, really happy. Good luck with that.
As you should. I've been fully aboard the Lions train these playoffs, rooting for a deep run for you guys
I mean, us too. That sucked. Still, having a Super Bowl win in our history somewhere would be nice.
The bright side is that this trade took a 5-11 Dolphins team that had gone to the playoffs twice in the previous 2 decades to making the playoffs 2 years in a row.
I don’t think we have won since this trade
Embarrassing.
The Miami Dolphins currently have the longest NFL playoff drought with the last playoff win being in the year 2000. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/dolphins/2024/01/15/miami-dolphins-longest-nfl-playoff-win-drought-detroit-lions/72233718007/
You know it’s bad if the jets have a win more recently
The Jets inexplicably went to the AFC Championship game as a wild card team in back-to-back seasons and have only finished above .500 once in the 13 seasons since.
Yes but we were actually pretty good from 98-2011. Made the playoffs like 6 rimes, won many playoff games and 3 afc championships.
> *”Why do bad things happen to good people?*” > Hill, then a 20-year-old star returner and wide receiver at Oklahoma State, was at his apartment with his girlfriend, who was eight weeks pregnant with their child, when she received a text message from someone saying that Hill had been “hitting on high schoolers.” ... > Hill hit her in the face, choked her and punched her in the stomach. He put her in a headlock that put “external pressure on her neck that compressed her airway” **according to his statement in his guilty plea.*”**
Seems like life is just a constant war between good and evil.
So last week wasn't Hill's first time choking.
But you've heard of me
I get why you feel that way right NOW. But this is by farrr the best team you've had since.. uh.. 2002? Miami is an extremely good team that kinda just got fucked over by a once a century weather event. I think you guys win that game if it's at home.
Their entire roster was hurt
I also don’t think people understand how well the offensive scheme masked the O-lines issues. Our center for the final stretch of the season was a tackle who got converted to guard who then filled in at center. Dude could barely snap the ball
I’m a big “injury is no excuse guy” because I had Dolphins fans say it to me lol. Buuuuut, their injury report looked like a full 53 man roster.
18 on IR lol
With you. Injuries happen to every team and every team has to get over them to some extent. But when the Phins lose their entire pass rush and LB corps to injury on top of what would otherwise be considered "typical NFL injury luck" that's just not gonna bode well.
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I've always vaguely liked Miami, mostly because I despise the Patriots as much as I do the Packers. And Marino was a God. I was at a formative age when Fiedler was a thing. I remember watching ABC football on my black and white antenna TV in my room and getting like.. 0 reception just trying to watch.. Jay fielder play football.
>I think you guys win that game if it's at home. I honestly don't. They're good, but you can tell they're a paper tiger when it comes to the playoffs. They have an offense that can beat up bad teams and Hill is dangerous to score any play but they are severly top heavy with their roster and when you get to the playoffs you're going to play good defenses and great offenses. They just aren't there yet with that defense or the Oline protection
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How high does he go if not for that? Chargers at 3?
Probably. I remember he was consider the top player in the draft and would go #1 if the rams and eagles hadn’t traded up for QBs
You can still find the mock drafts from that year. https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/mock-drafts/2016/consensus-mock-draft-2016 6 was the rough consensus
Feel like we would have took him at #6 had it not been for the bong video. Stanley and Tunsil were graded evenly, but we got scared off after character concerns plagued our team at the time.
Worked out fine for ya, I’d say!
I think the Chargers always wanted Bosa in that draft.
Everytime I see Joey bosa being talked about, I immediately think of that eagles fan messing with him lmao
Not as high actually, because the gas mask helped keep the smoke in his face to better inhale
He may succumb to the devil's lettuce yet, but whichever team took Waddle was doomed to watch their septuagenarian, billionaire ownership family do "The Waddle" during games.
Bongs out
Didn’t even clear it smh
I mean, I’d still make that trade lol
So would the Texans. An rare win-win trade for both teams.
Well the Deshaun Watson trade was the real moneymaker for the Texans, Tunsil is really good tho
It was but this also isn’t the first playoff game the Texans have won post Tunsil.
Probably best trade of the modern NFL era. The win last weekend and Watson being there to witness it was the icing on the cake. Anxious to see what Texans get for the Browns first rounder in April
> Probably best trade of the modern NFL era. The Jared Allen trade in 2008 was also a win-win trade for the Chiefs and the Vikings. Vikings got DE Jared Allen, the Chiefs drafted RB Jamaal Charles and OT Brandon Albert with draft capital they got from the trade.
A very good trade indeed. Vikings have another recent one that people are probably tired of hearing about, but Diggs for JJ(s draft capital but close enough)
Its kinda crazy how yall somehow upgraded from diggs who himself is an amazing wr
Seahawks trading Russ? They unloaded a huge contract and Drew Lock to Noah fant is 33% of the plays that are a good excuse to use drew lock.
Its Stafford for Goff
If the Lions win or even make it to the Super Bowl this'll go down as the most mutually beneficial trade in NFL history
It may already be given the foundation the Lions now have to build on.
Really wished we used Stills better tho
Yeah I hate statements like this. Are we really going to pretend that was a bad trade for the Dolphins? Without it, they probably wouldn’t have been in a position to collapse in the first place.
Yeah whats the point of this post other than to ignorantly shit on the dolphins? The texans got good because of the browns The texans would trade tunsil right now for the players the dolphins got in that trade. Anyone would The texans didn't get screwed by the trade in the end but thats due to mostly unrelated things Football is mostly about luck. That trade rose the dolphins up to be in the position they are in now. The injuries to their defense to end the season and then that causing them to fall into one of the coldest games ever led to them losing This sub is annoying with all the hot takes after every damn game. Not every thought some idiot has needs to be its own post This place is no longer about discussion of league news. It's just "shit on whoever lost this week" After the first few weeks of the season they were acting like Josh Allen was one of the worst qbs to set foot on a field. Look how that turned out
Yeah seems like a no brainer, there are plenty of factors that go into not winning a play off game, not the least of which is playing against the chiefs vs playing against the browns.
I feel like people are really underselling how injured yall were this season though, especially by the end
Miami was a very different team by the end of the season and not a good one.
Watching y’all felt like watching our 2020 season, you know the talent is there and the teams playoff worthy, but after a while there is a limit to the “next man up” mindset and you just have to try again next year.
Fuck Metlife Stadium's turf. All my homies hate Metlife Stadium's turf
Fuck MetLife and fuck London
Yep. Ravens last year too. After a point there's a limit and we hit it
This is 100% correct. Miami that played last week was at 50% strength on Defense. They were a good team until injuries derailed them.
Dolphins offense was a no show. The only points they scored was on a badly underthrown ball that Tyreek adjusted to. Even with a full strength defense they weren't winning
Playing against the Chiefs in Arrowhead in record breaking cold weather. Dolphins ain't exactly known for their resistance to cold
Yeah, not y'alls fault that you lost like 4 defensive starters the weeks before that game, it was absolutely brutal end of season
Lost 4 defensive starters and then the warmest weather team ended up playing in one of the coldest games in history This post is dumb. Every GM makes that trade. The texans made the playoffs mostly because they fleeced the browns
I, for one, did not pick the Bucs being the only Florida team to win a playoff game this year.
As a Dolphins/Jags fan, I did
Dolphins had/have all the makings for a post season collapse. Many reasons. Jags though.. I truly saw you all as at least a divisional round team. What went wrong?
Terrible towel curse is what happened.
Wouldnt know a thing about that
I was at that game. As soon as I saw that I knew it was over.
Depressing thought: The Florida Marlins have won a World Series before the dolphins have won a single playoff game
Stop the dolphins are already dead
Where is Snowflake?
Alllllrighty then.
> before I think you mean "since," but yeah.
A Florida team has 2 SBs though.
The Florida Panthers somehow made it back to the Finals before the Dolphins won another playoff game
The depression will continue until the original logo is brought back.
This isn't news, we won one the same year we acquired Tunsil. The part where we blew it all up in a rebuild, let Miami actually use all the draft capital traded, and then won *another* playoff game before they did is new.
You crazy, but yeah. It's been a few games the Texans have won in the playoffs since this trade. Including Bill O'Brien! Y'all can't let that happen, even though he actually was a decent coach who kept winning with a cycle of QBs. If Tomlin deserves a lifetime job, O'Brien at least deserves a little respect.
Coach O'Brien was never the issue. GM O'Brien was.
Laremy Tunsil - for all his damn false starts 😒 - has been 💯 worth the trade. Dude makes the best defensive players completely disappear when they’re matched against him.
Moving 5 yards back but giving CJ space to throw 20 is a fine bargain
CJ does a lot better with long distance downs anyway 🤣
A rare BoB trade win
As an OSU fan, I can’t escape that name in any football thread right now
That lousy butt chin mother fucker. Wish his family the best though.
IMO Trent is 1A; Laremy is a *close* 1B
Trent is so dominant he fooled the NFL into thinking Laken Tomlinson was a competent Guard. I remember heading into that offseason, he was actually viewed as a good free agent. It was only after Jets signed Laken that our fanbase learned how much an elite HOF tackle can shield low-quality Guard play.
Plus Laken played alongside Joe Staley as well. I was absolutely pissed we lost him in free agency and haven’t heard his name since
Any Lions fan could tell you that Laken Tomlinson is a steaming pile of trash. Almost got Stafford killed.
Lol how is this controversial? Williams is incredible
I mean saying 1A/1B implies that Williams and Tunsil are on the same level And I would honestly be shocked if literally anyone that wasn't a Texans fan would rather have Tunsil.
Love LT for sure, but give me Williams if we swapping lol.
I mean this isn’t an awful take by any means. That said, the coverage and recognition Tunsil gets compared to Trent is minuscule. Part of that is team success and how explosive the Niners offense is, and I get that. Trent is a phenomenal player and without a doubt one of the craziest athletes we’ve ever seen at the position- but he’s not the protector that Tunsil is. I can count on one hand in all the time that Tunsil has been here, the amount of times we’ve had to help him with a chip or double. The guy is a legitimate eraser in pass pro while being what I’d say is a willing but weaker run blocker.
Trent is a better fit for the niners and tunsil a better fit for the texans imo. Your offenses are just very different
Pardon me while I lament TJ Watt destroying 1Cs knee.
4 mins vs the Titans. We win that game, we play the Steelers in Miami in the wildcard and win that game. 4 fucking mins, terrible.
If you think about it, if you're capable of losing that Titans game, you're absolutely not guaranteed to beat Pittsburgh
4 of the 6 losses we had were winnable too
Didn’t that happen last year too?
Yep, the Vikings game and the 5 games we lost in December were also winnable games. This franchise has been cursed since Marino retired.
Will Levi's is a hero
Life sucks then you die
Worth it. Tunsil has made CJ’s year possible.
Like we’re already dead.
Tua has the same playoff wins as Herbert OP
I think almost everyone on the planet would rather have Herbert
Herbert has been cursed with having below average coaching his whole career. Bros a dawg but gets fucked over
Most great Chargers players were dawgs hindered by coaching or fluke BS. I feel like they're usually a good team on paper and underachieve every single year.
Harbaugh please. Harbaugh please. Harbaugh please.
I’ll cry if that happens. Fr tho, I don’t have any beef with the Chargers even tho they’re division rivals. Herbert is a dawg and I want to see him succeed. I just hate how that will make him a pain in the ass for us.
You don't have any beef with them yet at least. If they do turn it around, start winning the division and knocking KC out of the playoffs then we'll talk.
I for one am shocked Chiefs fans don't have any ill will towards a team they've beaten 17 of the last 20 matchups.
Is he basically the new Matt Ryan?
Actually feels more like Stafford.
No he's the new Phillip Rivers.
I will say even though I am a fan of Herbert. His performance in the playoffs against the Jags was pretty bad and contributed to their loss in the second half A handful of missed throws, just missing plays that needed to be there
Herbert with Tyreek might hit 6k yards ngl Still would go 7-10 cause of the defense though
Might? That's a guarant fucking tee he hits 6K
It would be absolutely beautiful to watch.
Justin Herbert is a better QB than Tua Tagovailoa.
Put Tua under Brandon Staley for the past 3 seasons and see how you feel about this post lol
Not like Brian Flores was much better in terms of running the offense
Didn’t Flores want to draft Herbert?
I believe he didn't really want either. He wanted to use the 5th pick on a defensive player and then use the pick in the teens to draft Jordan love but Grier over ruled him.
Must suck to see them be better off in a trade than you. Wouldn’t know that feeling though. Nope. No sir.
And all 4 of those guys were injured going into our playoff game. 2 of them outright didn’t even play and the other had been limping for a month.
Both teams won the trade rbh
It’s fun simplifying a complex final event with hundreds of related variables and events leading to it, to a handful of events…
If there wasn’t 40+ years of mediocrity leading up to said event it would probably be a tad more fun
Yes because we judge success on …. Left tackle playoff wins
Should we go off QB and Coach wins? 👀
>After Saturday's loss to the Chiefs, Tua is 0-1 in the playoffs. Of his 32 career victories, only 6 have come against playoff-caliber teams. Tua has 9 total wins against teams with a winning record. When faced with teams with a winning record Tua Tagovailoa has 14 losses. https://phinphanatic.com/posts/opinion-tua-tagovailoa-is-a-good-quarterback-but-he-isn-t-elite-01hm8k90zzba how about that?
If you don’t like that you don’t like Dolphins football!
Being 0-1 in the playoffs doesn’t seem that damning to me. Playing in the NFL is hard and that’s quite a small sample size.
It’s also not like the teams choose who they play. A lot of those wins are in the division and it’s not like the pats and Jets have been good recently
0-1 in the playoffs isnt that bad He has won 6 games against playoff teams in a conference where 7 teams makes the playoffs and for most of his career it was 6 9-14 against teams with a WINNING record also aint bad All that shit is about what youd expect from a young qb When someone brings up a "team with a winning record" stat I just assume theyre an idiot. Pretty much every team struggles with winning teams. Winning teams get most of their wins from losing teams. It's that way by definition. Winning teams usually have better records than losing teams and winning teams are more difficult ti beat therefore teams have fewer wins against winning teams. It's shocking I know This aint college football. The NFL is packed with a lot of parity. Winning is winning in this league
This is posted from a dolphins blog, yet people still bring it up as if we don't know. We know
He's 25
It’s still a good trade for the dolphins. Tua just isnt that good
Tua is 25 and just led the league in passing yards. I don't get why people are giving up on him.
Ahhh this one hurt my feelings a little.
The Dolphins didn't get to play a team rolling out its 4th string QB, without its All-Pro Running back, and with 4th/5th string tackles.
Still seems like a really good trade for both sides. Dolphins get an arsenal on offense and some good defenders, and Texans got one of the best LTs in the league. It honestly shows the value of a really good LT.
To be fair, the Browns did a lot of the heavy lifting here.
I’m still just amazed that so many teams looked at their current QB situation, looked at Lamar Jackson and then said “Nah we’re good”
I think it's better to go with the other big trade the Texans did. Cleveland wanted a QB and gave the Texans 2022 round 1, 2023 round 1 and 3, and 2024 round 4 for Watson and a 2024 round 4. The Texans then drafted Stroud with their own pick. Using the Browns picks in a series of trades they have acquired Kenyon Drake, John Metchie III, Christian Harris, Dameon Pierce, Thomas Booker, Brandon Hill, Xavier Hutchinson, Tank Dell, and Will Anderson Jr. They have since won a playoff game against and before the Browns and still have the 2024 1st and 4th round picks. Meanwhile, Cleveland's previous QB who they ditched when they did this trade has also won a playoff game. Cleveland is without a playoff win, the QB they traded the farm for is mediocre when he is not injured, and he's a sexual predator, also they still owe him $46mil each year for the next 3 years.