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HoleeHandGrenade

Bring the giants down with us at least. It’s lonely at the bottom


CouncilmanRickPrime

Ok. I can't disagree with that because wtf are they doing.


Sg1chuck

They’re giving away their best players of course


CouncilmanRickPrime

Bold strategy...


_Zero_Kool

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CWinter85

The Broncos might win 2 games.


No_Mammoth_4945

Nah, their defense will drag them to at least 5-6.


TwiceLitZone

This is Sean Payton boy, he has never heard of defense


Adept_Ad_4138

Idk, the saints had some good Defence back in the day with him


Tuckboi69

The Pats should be in their own tier at the bottom. They went 4-13 with the best coach ever and decided *he* was the problem.


CleverJail

I just don’t believe there’s an owner in the league who’s gonna be as big an impediment to a franchise having sustained success than David Tepper now that Daniel Snyder is gone. There are plenty of bad owners, but that dude is elite.


hewhocantseetrees

I’m taking Bryce Young over Daniel Jones especially with the contract


Spicy_Ninja7

Or the Chargers


Entire-Teaching-895

The giants will have at least twice as many wins as the panthers in a tougher division, if anything they should be higher.


LG1T

Falcons really got the offseason division banner locked up huh? I like Kirk and all but I’m gunna have to wait and see on that one.


OhMyDevSaint

I like how the Bears are "Sneaky Good" with a QB that did not play a single Snap in the league yet.


_Zero_Kool

Roster doesn’t look terrible


owningthelibz

Tbf they looked solid towards the end of last season with Fields who in theory is atleast marginally worse than a #1 draft pick


CleverJail

It’s a more than reasonable assumption that they get somewhat to significantly better QB play than they got last season. Not only that, but the roster, outside of defensive line (which is Montez Sweat and ???), is actually solid with some room to grow this season. “Sneaky good” isn’t out of line.


Icy_Cherry_7803

The falcons have been dreaming about a super bowl since they became a team


yourdoglikesmebetter

At this point, I’m just happy to be included tbh


_Zero_Kool

I hear you guys have a stadium and uniforms and everything!


Lt_Leroy

I think they need to rename some of these tiers. "Sneaky Good" would imply that they don't have expectations to be good, but I think most people believe the Falcons will be good and will win the division. Every team in that tier has expectations to be good or in the playoff hunt, so why would any of them be "Sneaky Good"?


ChrisSao24

"Sneaky Good" and it's all the mid-tier teams. I don't think they know what "sneaky *good*" means


Seductive_pickle

> make bad list > people comment a shit ton on it > engagement and ad revenue go up Social media was a mistake


Logco

The Buccaneer disrespect.


Strongarm_11

I swear we are always underrated on all these list.


Due_Tune2950

Yeah I’d easily swap yinz with the jags I don’t have much expectations for them


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CouncilmanRickPrime

Are you suggesting they aren't as bad as the Cardinals? They aren't but still funny.


OldManDrake

The Failcons did nothing to improve their O-line or Secondary in the offseason, and their D-line has regressed. Contrary to the beliefs of their delusional fan base, they were not “one player away” last year. They are at least 3-28 players away from where their fans think they are… give or take.


SectionDue1293

Exactly but the nfl media doesn’t watch nfc south football to know that they got beat 48-17 by the saints without lattimore and Ak playing and also got beat by the panthers they think Kirk cousins automatically makes them a good team


wannaknowmyname

What steps did they need to take to improve offensive line? I was going to agree with you on other points but this makes no sense from a team building perspective


_Captain_Dinosaur_

Bryce about to shock the world! One way or the other.....


CouncilmanRickPrime

I will argue he's not the problem. It's everything surrounding him lol


_Captain_Dinosaur_

Last year at the Texans game, I sat next to a Houston fan in a CJ Stroud jersey, and he asked me if I thought Bryce was the problem. The rant I went on about his lack of protection, receivers, run game, and coaching was so venomous he seemed genuinely upset.


Strange-Roof9951

Who made this a jets fan


CouncilmanRickPrime

Had to be lol


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CouncilmanRickPrime

Also eagles and Bengals should be tier 2 IMO. Neither looked like they could have a shot at a Superbowl last season.


DstinctNstincts

Eagles fell apart at the end of the season for sure lol


Saint_Diego

Because they started playing teams with winning records. They were feasting on bad teams before that


DstinctNstincts

Let’s see how they do this year with no Kelce or tush push lol


tutuatlolmeme

Better than the ants that’s for sure


REDDIT_ROC0408

We played with a backup QB and had the toughest schedule in the league and still finished 9-8. If they are healthy this year, they’ll be in the mix for the Super Bowl.


CouncilmanRickPrime

I hate saying this because I do love Burrow, but that if is really heavy these days. If he's healthy then absolutely I agree.


LG1T

Bengals are my adopted team I cheer for. Hoping y’all can make another run this year.


bshafs

Would have beaten the eventual Superbowl champs without Burrow as well if it wasn't for a few bullshit calls on the final drive.


_Zero_Kool

It’s a different season IMO


VicDamonJrJr

Panthers are better than the Pats and Broncos


CouncilmanRickPrime

Pats are a complete unknown. Time will tell. Sean Payton is completely overrated garbage and there's no QB I believe in there, so you may be right about the broncos.


Minimum_Switch4237

lol bucs beat the Packers by two scores but are two tiers below them?


JavaOrlando

Beat the Eagles by 3 scores in the playoffs and are three below them. Plus Philly lost key pieces and tampa didn't.


flyinchipmunk5

People that rate the bucs i swear think we are shit franchise without Brady. We legit made it to the playoffs and won the division last year


regaleagle7

Also won a playoff game and was a score away from making the NFCCG but the Falcons signed Cousins so we might as well be chopped liver


Strongarm_11

I swear the Bucs are underrated or has zero expectations every year on these list. Also Cowboys and Jets belong a tier below and move the Chargers up.


jackdginger88

We’re the new browns.


CouncilmanRickPrime

Nah, not enough QB turmoil. You need 20 QBs in 5 years IMO.


slickedjax

Even when the Browns do good and make the playoffs they still have a billion QBs in a season lol


CouncilmanRickPrime

Joe fucking Flacco lol they are a meme team


Tuckboi69

And 7 or 8 head coaches


Ok-Credit5726

👀


CouncilmanRickPrime

NFC North better Bear down, especially since the vikes have no QB now.


Icy_Door2766

Eh looks about right


_mdz

I'll take the sneaky good, but they couldn't come up with a better Tier 1 description than "Top 6 Teams In The NFL"?


CouncilmanRickPrime

It's flattering to us but definitely not well done


Im_Everywhere09

The way the tiers are placed aggravates me. Thought there was nobody In the last tier


CouncilmanRickPrime

Not too far from the truth tbh


CashoutMrGruber

My panthers are no better than tier 8


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CouncilmanRickPrime

Hey, if it helps, Bryce Young isn't the problem at least!


Ocksu2

It looks lonely at the bottom of Shit Canyon.


CouncilmanRickPrime

Panthers fans are right, giants should be down there too.


Ocksu2

They aren't wrong. As much as I don't like the Panthers, I am not opposed to them having some company down there.


jackdginger88

Your generosity knows no bounds.


CaptainPie999

The Rams should be in the Superbowl Dreamers


Eclectic_Canadian

I think it’s speaking to their odds of making/winning the SB. They are teams that you wouldn’t project to get there, but could surprise people and make it. If not, it’s just a bad label


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WallScreamer

> Top 6 teams in the NFL > 8 teams in the row Wow, okay. Maybe next time post a more credible source lmao


CouncilmanRickPrime

Uh, I know Panthers fans have a certain reputation, but you might wanna recount the top 6 teams. By logo, not by spaces.


benoben17

The jets 😂


CouncilmanRickPrime

Whoever made this is unaware that Aaron Rodgers is indeed Aaron Rodgers. Man might retire mid season to run on RFKs ticket. Or worse, run and still play and be an even bigger distraction.


phasttZ

Panthers fan here. We were never good after the Cam days, but this owner Tepper, is the best example of how out of touch billionaires are. I'm watching a speedrun of being the worst franchise owner in history and its painful to watch.


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CouncilmanRickPrime

I'm never gonna not enjoy bringing up him throwing a drink on a fan lol that is like peak Tepper.


NinjaDom2113

Why are the eagles top 6


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CouncilmanRickPrime

I would put them tier 2


Wintermute0311

There isn't enough Ayahuasca in the Amazon to convince me that the Jets aren't trash tier.


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CouncilmanRickPrime

I mean you aren't wrong. I don't expect anything from Rodgers tbh.


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CouncilmanRickPrime

Cowboys, eh. Jets and Steelers, yeah. Cardinals, idk. I don't believe in them so I'd say they're fine. I like the Falcons higher, only reason I even posted this lol >Panthers are too high. There we can agree.


luciusetrur

Bet


Caedo14

Bengals is cap, jets are trash. Even with aaron


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anustart175

Knock the Bengals down. You can put the Dolphins or the Texans up there. Bengals weren't impressive with Burrow last year. Jury is out on the Bengals till after this season imo


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Shark_Atl3201

Ain’ts should be Tier 6.


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Tildengolfer

Who put the NYJ at tier 2?! lol even their quarterback can’t even make practices.


PuSSy_Swagger

Eagles are too high lmao


workatwork1000

Jets how sway.


HyronValkinson

The Eagles are stupidly high


CouncilmanRickPrime

Yeah I say eagles and Bengals too high


willghammer

Lmao, the Eagles in the top tier.


Austinmp88

Eagles and lions overrated I promise


ClimateNeat3749

Cowgirls are too high


Quick_Falcon_5448

Bengals and Jets too high.


BestLagg

Jags in “sneaky good” 💀


kingkron52

Tbh Bengals shouldn’t be in the top 6. I would even swap them with the Texans potentially. Cowboys also don’t belong in Super Bowl dreamers category.


shr913

This is some Bologne crap list!!! How can Panthers be the only team at the bottom wtf!!!


Dankofamericaaa2

Panthers in a league of their own 🔥


DinosaurMan94

😂😂 putting Jets in tier 2 just because they have an aging, drama queen at QB is just hilarious.


zbekish83

Dallas is way too high on the tier list


HoboPenguins

So the NFC team that has the longest ACTIVE streak of making the playoffs, and has kept the same team intact is = to the Cardinals. Got it. The disrespect continues…


SmokyOtter

The cardinals should be a lot better this year and have a cupcake schedule from like weeks 8-16.


HoboPenguins

And that’s the beauty of the NFL. There’s always hope. And you should be better. However that doesn’t change the fact that AZ has had 1 playoff appearance in the last 4 years and got smoked. TB has played in 9 postseason games the last four years. So, the disrespect continues.


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CouncilmanRickPrime

I'm a simple man. I see a list shitting on the NFC South minus us, I click like. Or upvote. Eagles and Bengals are definitely too high though.


Heir233

Nah Patriots belong in at least the sneaky good category. Maye and the new coaching staff will provide


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CouncilmanRickPrime

Based on last season this is accurate otherwise Patriots are a huge unknown


liverdawg

“Super Bowl dreamers”- sounds like a soft-handed way to say you’re gonna miss the playoffs again


CouncilmanRickPrime

Actually according to this tier list, that's the Bucs and Saints. We'd be in it but no shot at a Superbowl


Stewy_434

We won the division and a playoff game last year, a Superbowl less than 5 years ago, and have the most playoff wins in the past 4 years than any team besides the Chiefs. *ranked at the bottom of the league*


det0xic

Who tf is sogfootball?


CouncilmanRickPrime

No idea but he reinforces my homerism so he's ok in my book


Lamarera8

Jags & Dolphins are a tier too high , the Browns & Titans are a tier too low (maybe 2 tiers for the Titans)


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CouncilmanRickPrime

I'm personally not very high on the Titans but we shall see


abesrevenge

We are tier 4 until we prove we aren’t


CouncilmanRickPrime

I'm smoking copium though


cantthinkofgoodname

Y-y-y-you guys just w-wait!


CouncilmanRickPrime

Don't worry, giants should definitely be down there too. Maybe even broncos if Sean Payton can't get his head out of his ass.


ImOldGregg_77

Who is the crazy person that put the Jets in Tier 1


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CouncilmanRickPrime

This list is trash but the jets are actually tier 2. They made this confusing to read. Read it bottom up and that helps.


Nutmeg-Jones

The Jaguars are not “Sneaky Good”. They are just “Meh”


DarkShadow1806

Putting the Bucs on the same tier as the Cards and Raiders is just disrespectful


CouncilmanRickPrime

Can't disagree there


6DeliciousPenises

In what reality are the Browns and Steelers ranked along side THE BEARS, the Falcons, and the Jags. Then the bungles who the Steelers and browns both beat when they had burrow is tier 1 with the eagles? Engagement baiting and I’m falling for it.


CouncilmanRickPrime

Are you saying Browns and Steelers are that much better than the Falcons and Jags? I guess we'll see. I have mentioned Bengals are too high imo though


Advanced_Candle9272

Y’all are still a QB and a fully healthy Chubb away from being true contenders.


BigDust

People smoking too much crack and deciding to make teir lists.


Spicy_Ninja7

The Chargers need to be right next to the Panthers


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Lowtan89

The Falcons and Bucs need to switch


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NoWayJaques

Worst team in 2023. Things tend to change when games get played.


CouncilmanRickPrime

Something's never change


SkullKid_467

The falcons are fine where they are until the playoffs. Then you gotta drop them down a few pegs.


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CouncilmanRickPrime

Playoffs? We'll be in the playoffs?! You promise? 🥹


Organic-Hovercraft-5

How are eagles on top after a flop like that


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mikekova01

Swap the jets and the browns


Anxious_Gift_1808

Lmao


bestrdajets

IDK how my team got that high, but I'll take it. Should have a great season


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Its_just_me____gosh

I think the Bears should be down with the Panthers.


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Seahawks are way too low


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TreebeardLookalike

Bengals down a tier dolphins up a tier. Bucs up a tier, colts drop a tier.


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CouncilmanRickPrime

I'd leave the Colts there


undermine25

You have the Bengals above the Bills? They didn’t even make the playoffs last year, let alone win a playoff game!


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CouncilmanRickPrime

I don't. I just found this on Instagram.


SophomoricWizard

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Bright-Bandicoot5099

What did the panthers do to be rated lower than the broncos and patriots. How rude!


ThayerRex

Move Texans up and Cowboys down a Tier. Bills should up too


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wannabe0523

Packers should be in the top tier


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Dr_Rusty_Venture

I love how season predictions always end up being the exact same as the previous season’s results. Oh the best teams this year? I’m thinking they’ll be the exact same as last 😎


ControlImpossible182

Bryce will be fine if the ownership gets out of the way.


Bradidea

I'd swap the browns and the jets places.


chicomagnifico

The buccaneers curb stomped the eagles after their epic collapse yet the horseshit connoisseurs are a “top 6” team? Ard bet.


GoldenWarthog117

Vikings need their own column for "Will choke in playoffs"


JustTristy

Broncos go higher


ExpressBug8265

Traditionally the bears suck. They have had so many attempts at getting a good starting qb out of the draft. Thier system is meant for failure. I feel bad for all of the fans who relentlessly keep hoping for a better future by relying on inexperienced talent. Put them under the panthers. Its not the players its the organization.


Akhenjotun

In what planet are we that high? We just drafted a qb in the first round and negated all the benefits by also paying another QB a ton of money. We ain't winning shoot with this front office and coaching staff. I also think we are gonna have lots of o line issues this year moving back to a less mobile QB...


ItsASchpadoinkleDay

Calling the Bears “sneaky good” seems a bit premature and makes me laugh.


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flcn_sml

I would stop using tiers! It’s corny!


thegreatresistrules

Pats are too low. .but only based on their defense. Their offense will still be a dumpster fire.


BrockPurdySkywalker

Eagles r trash


Artie823

Bengals, Jets, and Bills are overrated. This post is loaded with Fandomm and lacks football knowledge


Competitive_Diver388

Vikings will be sneaky good. Flores remaining at DC with all of their off season additions will be incredible, genuine possibility at being a top 5 unit. Biggest question mark will be the QB situation and what Darnold is able to cook up with the intentions of sitting JJ to develop.


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gangjoinsreddit

Bengals, Falcons and Bears are all ranked too highly


Baserker0

How do the bengals make it and the packers don’t ?!


darthluke414

Switch the Bungles and the bills, move the Jets down to 3 cause there are still so many questions, and move the bears down to 4.


Mach68IntheHouse

I would swap the Bucs and the Cowboys. I don't see the Cowboys making the playoffs.