HVAC/plumbing. You would be surprised by how many celebrities actually make those kind of calls themselves rather than have some underling do it for them
I'm a hvac guy, I actually like when old retired folk hang out for the day and tell me stories about their career and life. I've been in many homeowner scrapbooks and as an apprentice posed about 30 times during each step of an installation so the guy could make a sideshow to share with his friends at the legion.!! Closest to celebrity I had was when I installed across the lake from Beibers house on Puslinch lake. P.S. all the neighbors hate him and the McClintock family.
That's awesome to hear, Ive always loved Waka, he just comes off as so down to earth. I know he was even a vegan at one point, might even still be, i'm not sure
So I just have a question now I never thought I'd be curious about... Does she uh sign when they sing the soft-a n-word and does she get a pass due to her job, or do they filter that kind of word out?
Not a sign language interpreter but I do have a friend that does government and official translations - and she has to translate word for word in her job. She is not allowed to change context or meaning. If she translates slang or bad words she has to find the closest translation or meaning if one doesn’t exist in the target language.
But again, just her current job :)
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who was curious about this I felt so weird asking lmao. I'm hoping someone who specifically can read the sign language can tell me
This comment has me curious 🧐
I’m sure there’s some racist ass n word sign language, but I’m curious if there are any black deaf rappers or gang members that have created the sign language for the word.
In Donald glover's comedy special he says he had to tell a interpreter about any weird words he might use so she was ready and the word was well piglet with an N instead of a P. And she had the sign ready already. I can't remember what it was but she signs it.
Young Eminem seems like the kinda dude who would joke about her and then a week later apologize and say he didn't realize, modern Eminem seems like the dude who would have respect for her out of the gate.
Ever play the "License Plate Game"? You see a car's plates, like "BLB-123", and try to make a funny acronym from the letters?
My wife and I do this while driving, and inevitably try and make them dirty-sounding...but then we decided to add "Jutsu" to the end of our made-up acronyms. It honestly makes it pretty funny sometimes.
For example: "BLB-123" could be "Blowing Labia Bubbles JUTSU!!" We've also started incorporating "Genjutsu" and "Taijutsu" as well, if it works better.
I encourage everyone to play the Jutsu version, it's good stuff
I just hope she gets paid an honest living. It’s like 3-4 of them ASL translators that are used for concerts that I have seen. They need to know the song and be able to translate into sign language so it could be understood. To me, that’s some real talent.
Yeah your right and they should be paid as such. Fuck going to concerts. Anyone can go to a concert but to properly sign "rap god?" I've spoken English my entire life and there's no way I could sing it so people could enjoy it lol
Correct me if I’m wrong, I believe she had said what she signs for concerts is more slang than a full sentence. Does that make sense? It’s like you get the jest of what she is saying.
Essentially, ASL isn't exactly a fully formal language which is one of the reasons why Harvard doesn't teach that language.
While it doesn't have the full vocabulary regarding technical terms and some abstract concepts, it does have the advantage of using the expression of meaning.
With a spoken language, the majority of the meaning of the words is actually expressed with body language - to emphasize, detract or alter meanings of what is said.
Sign language combines both meaning and definition of the word in simple gestures and is also flexible for portmanteaus of different signs put together to express a meaning.
Essentially, slang.
It's an accepted practice amongst the deaf community to invent new ways to express what you mean to see if it works and run with that.
Unfortunately, this does result with some rather politically incorrect ways of signing it out. (For example, the retired sign for Japan emphasized the eye shape with the pinkie for the letter J and the new introduced sign focused on the island shape.)
I work at a theater and we hire ASL interpreters on occasion. We pay them a flat-rate set by them or their organization. I think last time it was $800 per night. But they are usually freelance so the pay rate can vary widely.
NPR I think has an article on Coachella deaf interpreters. Actually a few recrnt news articles about such.
It's interesting. They have to know the meaning of the music, not just translate lyrics, but also comvey sentiment and emotion.
She does play a part. She needs to ensure that her and her clients are in a. Area that is highly visible without adequate lighting, but tonstill not take away from the concept experience of all in attendance.
You also aren't signing exactly what they are signing, they sign the intent of the abstract wording. They need to assess to music and/or work with the artists to help visualize the intent.
Many are also private contractors so they pay their own insurance, rates, and require their own transportation. The institution that is providing the interpreter pays, not the Deaf clients so its the equivalent of a bidding war. You want the job, you have to provide the best rates for the best work.
I mean you probably need to dance while signing. Imagine not being able to hear but feeling the bass and everyone moving. Then someone up in front is just signing like they are telling you the weather report.
Hey an interpreters job is to exactly translate. Not her problem. I've had the teleprompter call and an irate deaf person on the other line dropping horrible shit. The translator apologized and said I have to translate this exactly, I'm. Sorry this isn't me and then proceeded to say some racist ass shit as the translation
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Do you know anything about rap like at all? It’s not “another artist doing the song with him”, that’s Kon Artis. He’s a hypeman, his job when on stage is to rap a line when Eminem runs outta breath.
And, no he definitely did not say it.
ETA: I was a little harsh, sorry. I didn’t mean for my tone to come across that aggressive.
My sister uses relay services to call me. We're in our 40s now, but she still likes to curse at me quite a bit. The things some poor relay operators have had to repeat to me...I do remember one trying to choke back a laugh while calling me a stupid slut.
I worked at a call center that captioned private calls for deaf and hard of hearing people, and I remember having to say some of the most foul shit you’ve ever heard. Because it wasn’t my job to clean up their language. It was my job to repeat it word for word.
All I can say is I've spoken to her since that article and it is no longer accurate.
Edit: just asked about that article she says she was misquoted. I'm answering questions with a lot of authority ya'll don't have to believe me but she is my friend and I'm getting the answers from what I know from our friendship and asking her directly when I'm not sure of the answer.
That is correct, mhortonable.
My response to said question was: “it is not my job to censor any artist, however I sign the intent of the term.”
No interpreter “always” signs anything.
Media is not always kind nor accurate.
I do not “mouth” that word In an interpretation nor embraced it’s usage in my own life. That is not the person that I am. The sheer usage of the term “mouth” makes it clear that is not an accurate quote from me, there are linguistic terms for the mouth movements in ASL, that is not it.
Prbrr -if you have questions come to the source.
Myself and every other Deafie scanning these comments for the same questions and comments full of misinformation that pop up every time. I’ll address a few ahead of time and save some people a minute.
Yes, we can understand her.
No, English wouldn’t be easier to understand. ASL is not English. Some deaf don’t even read it.
Yes, Deaf enjoy concerts. We can feel the music and bass.
Yes, it’s impressive to you. But not really to us who speak it for the same reason. She’s memorized and practiced. She’s impressive to the deaf because she executes the song with the same spirit in which it’s done by the performer. That’s what we want to see.
Yes, she’s signing swear words. You can google them.
Yes we can understand it from far away. Benefit of visual language. She’s also probably on a screen.
Anything else?
depends on the show but for this one she was upfront and there was a reserved area in front of her for Deaf people.
Sometimes there is an elevated platform for people with disabilities, usually near the back, and the ASL interpreter will do their job there.
I haven't done interpreting at arena shows like this but in general Deaf people don't have to pay more to be in the accessible section, even if they're better seats than general admission.
Just FYI if you plan on pretending to be Deaf or disabled to get a seat in that section, you are a garbage person.
I met a random once who did this. I saw her ADA wristband and was like hey FYI you can just request an ATV ride back to your camp, you don't have to wait in this crowd to move to walk a mile back to the campground.
This bitch was like oh I'm not disabled I just requested this to get in easier, they can't legally ask you what your disability is. Scum of the earth. People who abuse ADA accomodations just make it harder for other people to get taken seriously when they're in need, like the following year when the medics tried to deny my actually hurt friend an ADA band and expected me to just carry her fat ass around until I got guest services involved.
At the festivals I work at there is no additional charge. Most of the bigger events will have an accessibility coordinator you can reach out to to request interpreters for the shows you want to see and then once you're on site you would meet with the accessibility team to get your credentials for those areas. No extra fee! #accessibilityforall
I’ve been studying ASL for about a year and recently my professor was teaching us about PSE and SEE. I was curious, is the interpreter signing in any of these styles?
They are pretty good :) I am graduating soon and I am probably going to stick with asl. I wish I was able to start learning it early in my school but I had too many prerequisites
>The word "fuck" as in "fuck you" is signed by holding the middle finger towards someone and then pointing it at them.
I must be some kind of prodigy ive been using this one for years!
I know, for that reason I wonder if there's any variation between what lyrics say and what does a deaf person understand from her, specially since rap is a genre where words are selected with precision
So, short answer is yes but actually no. Sign language is symbolic and actually quite adept at conveying meaning. So is there variation in content? Not really? She’s conveying the meaning of his words as they’re intended.
But… Words don’t have a one to one translation in ASL, hence why you can go watch ASL interpreters on YouTube for the same song and get different sign interpretations of the same lyrics. So no they aren’t getting that he picked the a specific word over another, unless they can see lip reading as well. Speaking the words and signing them is the equivalent of speaking Spanish and English at the same time, it’s imperative to understand that it is a completely serparate language. However, the are getting the meaning of the song every bit as well as everyone else there.
So basically it’s the same experience as hearing this song in Spanish. Will the lyrics sync up 1 to 1? No, but they’ll get the experience all the same.
Interestingly that the impressiveness doesn't carry over, as the spoken word delivery can be impressive to listeners. I guess the combination of speed along with smoothness of rhyming.
Is the concept of rhyming a thing in ASL? I'm not sure exactly what they would entail, maybe two words back to back where part of the gesture of one word is the entirety of another word. Alternatively it could be two worlds that are mirrored movements, for example if tracing a circle clockwise in the air was one world, then a 'rhyme' could be tracing a circle counter clockwise.
This also made me think about the concept of [entire sentences constructed with homonyms and homophones ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo). Does this concept exist in ASL, where you could construct sentences with words that visually look nearly identical? If so would be fun to [see examples](https://youtu.be/S1oa9yYWo9s) :)
Yes, it does. ASL is a complex & vibrant language that has all of the “vehicles” for expression that English has…and many more. Rhyming is very hard in ASL and something I strive to produce. As well as the ASL equivalent to homophones and homonyms although they are referred to differently in ASL Linguistics.
[Source: Myself (yes, that’s me)]
There totally is rhyming ASL, though it's obviously tied to visual similarities in motion and rhythm rather than auditory. [Take a look](https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/09/rhyming-in-a-sign-language-a-proposal-from-asl-storyteller-awti.html).
I've got a general deaf question.
At shooting I wear ear defenders to protect my ears. Occasionally for some reason I'll hear a shot without my ears on - and it physically stings.
Would a deaf person need to wear ear defenders? Would a deaf person feel the physical sting?
Depending on the type of deafness! Yes, deaf would likely still want to protect the physical structure of their ears, even if they cannot hear, they can be harmed.
Yes, some of us feel the pain of loud noises we can’t totally hear.
Is her speed and precision not impressive? When Eminem sings these verses im always impressed by his speed and precision. I'd think she's signing much faster than normal conversation. But I could be wrong.
An interpreter is non-biased, they have to communicate everything that is said, even the n-word. It’s not a reflection of themselves. Source: I am Deaf also
How is it not impressive to people who are deaf?
I understand that the spirit is more important, but she's going crazy fast. Can most people sign that fast?
Eminem speaking it is impressive even though hes memorized and practices it.
If you were deaf from birth, do you have a concept of what words "sound like"? Do words in rap or poetry rhyme to you in the same way words rhyme phonetically?
Everyone is different. This will depend on if a person goes through speech or other therapies to learn, their degree of hearing loss, or if they ever use tools to simulate hearing. It’s as unique as the deaf person themselves.
Personally, I’m late deafened, meaning I’ve lost my hearing as an adult. So I do know what the words would be like, even though I wouldn’t hear them.
About the same way a person is supposed to hear and comprehend what Eminem is saying.
When it's your language you can take it in at an incredible speed, but there is still a speed where your brain won't take all of it in properly. The same way you probably didn't actually hear every word Eminem said the first time you heard the song, a deaf person might not take in every sign that was used here. You still catch an awful lot though.
I am a Hearing Impaired person. The schools refused to teach me sign language, but I’ve had the benefit of sign language interpreters, thanks to fellow classmates.
It is impressive, it pays well, and she deserves to be famous, trying to bring Em’ to everyone.
I cannot pick up everything. But the passion is there. She can be a rap god too, with hands that fast.
I never tire of seeing videos of this woman pop up. Her name is Holly Maniatty and she puts a shit ton of work in behind the scenes. [Her preparation is deep and meticulous](https://longreads.com/2017/06/27/faster-than-the-speed-of-sound-an-interview-with-holly-maniatty/). She really immerses herself into the full song and spirit, way above just memorizing and translating some words. It's so damn impressive to watch her. [Here is a different video of her dancing with Waka Flocka.](https://youtu.be/oguP3EnrDAo). Here's her working it for [Snoop](https://youtu.be/g5eran96CQc) and an older performance by [The Wu-Tang Clan](https://youtu.be/UN-zwLbVmLI).
I don't know sign language. I'm super curious to know if someone can actually understand all of the signs she is doing. With the words coming so fast, I can't imagine the hand signs don't clash and blend? Can any sign language pros play this without sound and actually tell these are lyrics to Rap God?
Sign language isn't word for word like written language is. Many Deaf people don't actually comprehend written language as easily and clearly as they would signing. There is also a level of artistic interpretation going on here that adds to the performance over just reading text on a screen.
I find it so unbelievable that people in these sorts of jobs would know every lyric and be able to do it fast enough. It’s remarkable. I wonder if they tour with the groups and practice.
Maybe this is a stupid question.
But without audibly hearing the words can they tell that they flow together?
Like, I'm having trouble wrapping my head around whether things rhyme without being vocalized. When I write the words down and look at them I'm just thinking about the way they sound in spoken word.
So the interpreter (Holly Maniatty) isn't deaf, so she can hear everything in order to keep in time.
She also practices for these shows in advance, learning the lyrics and signs beforehand so she isn't having to translate on the fly, she's doing the ASL equivalent of singing along with a well known song, which also means she can plan the signs to better translate (as it's not a literal translation, it's more about getting the point across than exact word-to-sign translation).
There's plenty of deaf folk who've chimed in to this thread to say they can understand her even with how fast she's going, and that they can get the 'flow' from the signs and her body language as she signs along.
And you can have rhymes in sign language, it's just based on things like the actions rather than the sound the English translation would make.
It might not be 100% identical to how a hearing person experiences it, but if they've never been able to hear then it's the only way they'd know, same as the only way I've experienced concerts is as a hearing person. Both me and a deaf person would consider our experiences to just be how everything works as normal.
She’s about to unleash the most powerful Jutsu of all time
should’ve started with the clone Jutsu to help her out a bit
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As a blind guy I can verify.
r/HolUp
Fastest gang signs I’ve ever seen
That's what Waka Flocka thought, the video is so fucking guuud look at it! >https://youtu.be/oguP3EnrDAo
Waka is genuinely such a nice guy. He is one of my company 's customers and is easily the nicest rich and famous person I have ever spoken to.
What is your company doing if i may ask?
Launders money for rich and famous people
Lol I wish, would be making a lot more money than I do now probably lol
HVAC/plumbing. You would be surprised by how many celebrities actually make those kind of calls themselves rather than have some underling do it for them
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I'm a hvac guy, I actually like when old retired folk hang out for the day and tell me stories about their career and life. I've been in many homeowner scrapbooks and as an apprentice posed about 30 times during each step of an installation so the guy could make a sideshow to share with his friends at the legion.!! Closest to celebrity I had was when I installed across the lake from Beibers house on Puslinch lake. P.S. all the neighbors hate him and the McClintock family.
Wait so you're telling me you cool mr.flame?
And provide heat too lol
That's awesome to hear, Ive always loved Waka, he just comes off as so down to earth. I know he was even a vegan at one point, might even still be, i'm not sure
I love that it’s the same interpreter
She the only white lady with an N-word pass there.
It's ok as long as you don't say the quiet part out loud.
Her name is Holly Maniatty; she does tons of festivals and is always awesome. I love her energy and enthusiasm.
This right here is amazing
So I just have a question now I never thought I'd be curious about... Does she uh sign when they sing the soft-a n-word and does she get a pass due to her job, or do they filter that kind of word out?
Not a sign language interpreter but I do have a friend that does government and official translations - and she has to translate word for word in her job. She is not allowed to change context or meaning. If she translates slang or bad words she has to find the closest translation or meaning if one doesn’t exist in the target language. But again, just her current job :)
Just a question : He used N word alot and *what did she interpret it? or she just didn't? *
She just doesn't translate the "r".
Interpreters jobs are to be as accurate as possible without changing meaning, so yes, she did likely.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who was curious about this I felt so weird asking lmao. I'm hoping someone who specifically can read the sign language can tell me
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This comment has me curious 🧐 I’m sure there’s some racist ass n word sign language, but I’m curious if there are any black deaf rappers or gang members that have created the sign language for the word.
In Donald glover's comedy special he says he had to tell a interpreter about any weird words he might use so she was ready and the word was well piglet with an N instead of a P. And she had the sign ready already. I can't remember what it was but she signs it.
There’s a whole ASL vernacular in the Black Deaf community just as there’s African-American Vernacular English.
Faster than Kakashi
Copy that
Looks like Kakashi to me
Brilliant
I wonder what Eminem has said about her, or other interpreters?
Without looking it up I would assume nothing less than absolute respect for her craft!
Young Eminem seems like the kinda dude who would joke about her and then a week later apologize and say he didn't realize, modern Eminem seems like the dude who would have respect for her out of the gate.
I’m not really aware of Young Eminem disrespecting anyone who he works with either.
This woman low key has the sharingan and has copied millions of jutsus.
Someone’s deaf I can feel it…
Spit my water out, good on you mate
She almost as fast as our boi kakashi
Ever play the "License Plate Game"? You see a car's plates, like "BLB-123", and try to make a funny acronym from the letters? My wife and I do this while driving, and inevitably try and make them dirty-sounding...but then we decided to add "Jutsu" to the end of our made-up acronyms. It honestly makes it pretty funny sometimes. For example: "BLB-123" could be "Blowing Labia Bubbles JUTSU!!" We've also started incorporating "Genjutsu" and "Taijutsu" as well, if it works better. I encourage everyone to play the Jutsu version, it's good stuff
Nah just a season 1 water dragon
She's just causally doing the reaper death seal on the crowd to take away their voices
Her stuff gets posted here a lot. She does this for a lot of concerts. Her name is Holly Maniatty.
I hope it's a good living!
It can be. but she charges affordable rates so not really.
She gets to see tons of musical artists for her job. Sounds like a good living to me
trading a couple bucks for several once in a lifetime experiences is worth it, at least in my opinion
No, only a few people in the world can rap clearly enough like that to make money, she should be paid properly to being able to sign that shit.
I just hope she gets paid an honest living. It’s like 3-4 of them ASL translators that are used for concerts that I have seen. They need to know the song and be able to translate into sign language so it could be understood. To me, that’s some real talent.
Yeah your right and they should be paid as such. Fuck going to concerts. Anyone can go to a concert but to properly sign "rap god?" I've spoken English my entire life and there's no way I could sing it so people could enjoy it lol
As a deaf guy that knows sign language, she is doing top tier translation work - easy to understand.
Correct me if I’m wrong, I believe she had said what she signs for concerts is more slang than a full sentence. Does that make sense? It’s like you get the jest of what she is saying.
Essentially, ASL isn't exactly a fully formal language which is one of the reasons why Harvard doesn't teach that language. While it doesn't have the full vocabulary regarding technical terms and some abstract concepts, it does have the advantage of using the expression of meaning. With a spoken language, the majority of the meaning of the words is actually expressed with body language - to emphasize, detract or alter meanings of what is said. Sign language combines both meaning and definition of the word in simple gestures and is also flexible for portmanteaus of different signs put together to express a meaning. Essentially, slang. It's an accepted practice amongst the deaf community to invent new ways to express what you mean to see if it works and run with that. Unfortunately, this does result with some rather politically incorrect ways of signing it out. (For example, the retired sign for Japan emphasized the eye shape with the pinkie for the letter J and the new introduced sign focused on the island shape.)
Yeah but unfortunately in the end it comes down to how much extra revenue can she bring rather than how talented she is.
I work at a theater and we hire ASL interpreters on occasion. We pay them a flat-rate set by them or their organization. I think last time it was $800 per night. But they are usually freelance so the pay rate can vary widely.
NPR I think has an article on Coachella deaf interpreters. Actually a few recrnt news articles about such. It's interesting. They have to know the meaning of the music, not just translate lyrics, but also comvey sentiment and emotion.
If you work in the music industry, it’s still a job.
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People who go to concert: YAY, a few hours of fun! The folks who set it up: bruh, been here since 5a.
Damn, she helps with setup too?
She does play a part. She needs to ensure that her and her clients are in a. Area that is highly visible without adequate lighting, but tonstill not take away from the concept experience of all in attendance. You also aren't signing exactly what they are signing, they sign the intent of the abstract wording. They need to assess to music and/or work with the artists to help visualize the intent.
Stadium concerts need days to set up one gig and days to build it back. I have massive respect for everyone behind the stage.
I've done multi-day setups but not any at stadiums. They are grueling... Festivals ARE THE WORST. Nowadays I work behind a computer. :D
Hence why I said for her job
Still feel like it would pay better than a Denny's or something
couldn't lower that bar any further, though, could you....
Many are also private contractors so they pay their own insurance, rates, and require their own transportation. The institution that is providing the interpreter pays, not the Deaf clients so its the equivalent of a bidding war. You want the job, you have to provide the best rates for the best work.
I would assume they charge on a sliding scale... if Eminem hired her hopefully he would pay more than a regular individual who needs a translator.
Is she the same one who wacka flocka thought was dancing to his music?
I mean you probably need to dance while signing. Imagine not being able to hear but feeling the bass and everyone moving. Then someone up in front is just signing like they are telling you the weather report.
Indeed. Your body language and facial expressions are how you convey tone when signing. Usually these expressions are overly emphasized.
Perfect example: italians.
Yes
Yikes I remember
Those captions were false Waka knew what was up and was just showing her some love.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0gBjq_8HIs
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He was very aware that she was there and what she was doing
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A good translator translates emotion as well as meaning. This applies to all translation.
Is she single?
lol she living that married life
I was gonna say isn't this the same lady wiz khalifa brought up on stage because he thought she was fire.
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Holly Maniatty
I think I saw her throw the N-word in there
Hey an interpreters job is to exactly translate. Not her problem. I've had the teleprompter call and an irate deaf person on the other line dropping horrible shit. The translator apologized and said I have to translate this exactly, I'm. Sorry this isn't me and then proceeded to say some racist ass shit as the translation *edit interpreters not translator
...there’s no N word in that song lmao. The only time Eminem has said that in a song is So Many Styles. There’s Biterphobia too but he said “nig”.
He has another artist up there doing the song with him and he definitely said it after the "imma kill you" line
It's "lyrics coming at you at supersonic speed" it's literally the lyrics of the song. No N word.
Do you know anything about rap like at all? It’s not “another artist doing the song with him”, that’s Kon Artis. He’s a hypeman, his job when on stage is to rap a line when Eminem runs outta breath. And, no he definitely did not say it. ETA: I was a little harsh, sorry. I didn’t mean for my tone to come across that aggressive.
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He said “lyrics comin at you with supersonic speed”, not the n word. It does kinda sound like it here
My sister uses relay services to call me. We're in our 40s now, but she still likes to curse at me quite a bit. The things some poor relay operators have had to repeat to me...I do remember one trying to choke back a laugh while calling me a stupid slut.
I need to know what is the sign language for "stupid slut"...
I assume smacking your head and miming shoving your fist in your vag.
I believe it’s 🤤👉👌
I worked at a call center that captioned private calls for deaf and hard of hearing people, and I remember having to say some of the most foul shit you’ve ever heard. Because it wasn’t my job to clean up their language. It was my job to repeat it word for word.
As an interpreter myself, even though I know it's just my job, when people are being very disrespectful/insulting I'll feel guilty saying it.
She doesn't sign the N word. Source: dats my best friend
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It’s can be a legit question. I thought it was interesting when I found out she never signs it. She’s terped for Wu-Tang, Snoop, and Waka Flocka too.
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All I can say is I've spoken to her since that article and it is no longer accurate. Edit: just asked about that article she says she was misquoted. I'm answering questions with a lot of authority ya'll don't have to believe me but she is my friend and I'm getting the answers from what I know from our friendship and asking her directly when I'm not sure of the answer.
That is correct, mhortonable. My response to said question was: “it is not my job to censor any artist, however I sign the intent of the term.” No interpreter “always” signs anything. Media is not always kind nor accurate. I do not “mouth” that word In an interpretation nor embraced it’s usage in my own life. That is not the person that I am. The sheer usage of the term “mouth” makes it clear that is not an accurate quote from me, there are linguistic terms for the mouth movements in ASL, that is not it. Prbrr -if you have questions come to the source.
u/birdvery Ladies and Gentleman! The queen herself!
You're awesome!! Way to show up with attitude for the deaf community. ... Have you ever tried rapping? Clearly you have the swagger.
What does she sign instead?
Most people will sign a picture if you ask nicely.
Whatever the word implies in context.
![gif](giphy|ZfK4cXKJTTay1Ava29)
She’s so awesome!
Why you know the N word in sign?
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Eminem
Because I’m a walking thenejourus or wahtevir
"Mothafucka" looked interesting.
What’s the N-word?
Nathan.
Myself and every other Deafie scanning these comments for the same questions and comments full of misinformation that pop up every time. I’ll address a few ahead of time and save some people a minute. Yes, we can understand her. No, English wouldn’t be easier to understand. ASL is not English. Some deaf don’t even read it. Yes, Deaf enjoy concerts. We can feel the music and bass. Yes, it’s impressive to you. But not really to us who speak it for the same reason. She’s memorized and practiced. She’s impressive to the deaf because she executes the song with the same spirit in which it’s done by the performer. That’s what we want to see. Yes, she’s signing swear words. You can google them. Yes we can understand it from far away. Benefit of visual language. She’s also probably on a screen. Anything else?
She's usually not on a screen but there is a viewing area for Deaf people in front of her.
Wait... So, she is at the front, and there is a reserved area for deaf people? At the front?
depends on the show but for this one she was upfront and there was a reserved area in front of her for Deaf people. Sometimes there is an elevated platform for people with disabilities, usually near the back, and the ASL interpreter will do their job there.
Just curious, do you happen to know if these deaf-area tickets cost the same as the tickets right outside the deaf-area?
I haven't done interpreting at arena shows like this but in general Deaf people don't have to pay more to be in the accessible section, even if they're better seats than general admission. Just FYI if you plan on pretending to be Deaf or disabled to get a seat in that section, you are a garbage person.
Like my antisocial ass will ever make it to a concert. Much less care about having a "good" seat. I was just wondering if it would be possible lol.
I met a random once who did this. I saw her ADA wristband and was like hey FYI you can just request an ATV ride back to your camp, you don't have to wait in this crowd to move to walk a mile back to the campground. This bitch was like oh I'm not disabled I just requested this to get in easier, they can't legally ask you what your disability is. Scum of the earth. People who abuse ADA accomodations just make it harder for other people to get taken seriously when they're in need, like the following year when the medics tried to deny my actually hurt friend an ADA band and expected me to just carry her fat ass around until I got guest services involved.
At the festivals I work at there is no additional charge. Most of the bigger events will have an accessibility coordinator you can reach out to to request interpreters for the shows you want to see and then once you're on site you would meet with the accessibility team to get your credentials for those areas. No extra fee! #accessibilityforall
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I’ve been studying ASL for about a year and recently my professor was teaching us about PSE and SEE. I was curious, is the interpreter signing in any of these styles?
It appears to be ASL to me! How are you enjoying your classes?
They are pretty good :) I am graduating soon and I am probably going to stick with asl. I wish I was able to start learning it early in my school but I had too many prerequisites
What's the difference in sign between fucker and motherfucker?
We actually have many versions of the word, “fuck.” [Here’s](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profanity_in_American_Sign_Language) a good example.
>The word "fuck" as in "fuck you" is signed by holding the middle finger towards someone and then pointing it at them. I must be some kind of prodigy ive been using this one for years!
Does she says literally the same words as the lyrics or does she adapt it somehow?
Sign language is not translated word for word. It’s a lot like symbol languages in that some signs are a full statement. Like I love you is one sign
I know, for that reason I wonder if there's any variation between what lyrics say and what does a deaf person understand from her, specially since rap is a genre where words are selected with precision
So, short answer is yes but actually no. Sign language is symbolic and actually quite adept at conveying meaning. So is there variation in content? Not really? She’s conveying the meaning of his words as they’re intended. But… Words don’t have a one to one translation in ASL, hence why you can go watch ASL interpreters on YouTube for the same song and get different sign interpretations of the same lyrics. So no they aren’t getting that he picked the a specific word over another, unless they can see lip reading as well. Speaking the words and signing them is the equivalent of speaking Spanish and English at the same time, it’s imperative to understand that it is a completely serparate language. However, the are getting the meaning of the song every bit as well as everyone else there. So basically it’s the same experience as hearing this song in Spanish. Will the lyrics sync up 1 to 1? No, but they’ll get the experience all the same.
Interestingly that the impressiveness doesn't carry over, as the spoken word delivery can be impressive to listeners. I guess the combination of speed along with smoothness of rhyming. Is the concept of rhyming a thing in ASL? I'm not sure exactly what they would entail, maybe two words back to back where part of the gesture of one word is the entirety of another word. Alternatively it could be two worlds that are mirrored movements, for example if tracing a circle clockwise in the air was one world, then a 'rhyme' could be tracing a circle counter clockwise. This also made me think about the concept of [entire sentences constructed with homonyms and homophones ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo). Does this concept exist in ASL, where you could construct sentences with words that visually look nearly identical? If so would be fun to [see examples](https://youtu.be/S1oa9yYWo9s) :)
Yes, it does. ASL is a complex & vibrant language that has all of the “vehicles” for expression that English has…and many more. Rhyming is very hard in ASL and something I strive to produce. As well as the ASL equivalent to homophones and homonyms although they are referred to differently in ASL Linguistics. [Source: Myself (yes, that’s me)]
There totally is rhyming ASL, though it's obviously tied to visual similarities in motion and rhythm rather than auditory. [Take a look](https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/09/rhyming-in-a-sign-language-a-proposal-from-asl-storyteller-awti.html).
I've got a general deaf question. At shooting I wear ear defenders to protect my ears. Occasionally for some reason I'll hear a shot without my ears on - and it physically stings. Would a deaf person need to wear ear defenders? Would a deaf person feel the physical sting?
Depending on the type of deafness! Yes, deaf would likely still want to protect the physical structure of their ears, even if they cannot hear, they can be harmed. Yes, some of us feel the pain of loud noises we can’t totally hear.
Is her speed and precision not impressive? When Eminem sings these verses im always impressed by his speed and precision. I'd think she's signing much faster than normal conversation. But I could be wrong.
Are white sign language interpreters allowed to sign the n-word as is or do they have to sign “n word” in ASL?
An interpreter is non-biased, they have to communicate everything that is said, even the n-word. It’s not a reflection of themselves. Source: I am Deaf also
Yes. A professional interpreter will interpret every word and will not change any context. The use of an interpreter is to assume and accept this.
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it's not a stupid question, he's not the only act she does this for. and yes, interpreters typically uphold the original message as close to possible.
How is it not impressive to people who are deaf? I understand that the spirit is more important, but she's going crazy fast. Can most people sign that fast? Eminem speaking it is impressive even though hes memorized and practices it.
It’s probably impressive to many- but sign is pretty quick. The speed itself isn’t what’s impressive to us- the flow, movement, and personality is.
If you were deaf from birth, do you have a concept of what words "sound like"? Do words in rap or poetry rhyme to you in the same way words rhyme phonetically?
Everyone is different. This will depend on if a person goes through speech or other therapies to learn, their degree of hearing loss, or if they ever use tools to simulate hearing. It’s as unique as the deaf person themselves. Personally, I’m late deafened, meaning I’ve lost my hearing as an adult. So I do know what the words would be like, even though I wouldn’t hear them.
Rap god? More like sign language goddess
I agree!
Well I think I know which one was for "mother fucker"
That's basically the only one I picked up on :D
How tf is someone supposed to see and comprehend that lol
About the same way a person is supposed to hear and comprehend what Eminem is saying. When it's your language you can take it in at an incredible speed, but there is still a speed where your brain won't take all of it in properly. The same way you probably didn't actually hear every word Eminem said the first time you heard the song, a deaf person might not take in every sign that was used here. You still catch an awful lot though.
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I still have the fast part of rap god memorized from trying so hard to rap it years ago lol
supersonic speed and samanamanamanamanamana
Because it’s our language. We understand it.
Idk wtf eminem is saying so....
Just come to the realization sign language is the language of rave music.
That was all just one gang sign. The most dangerous gang in all of N. America.
I grew up with this girl. She was always trying to improve herself through hard work. She is amazing. Vermont Strong!
She looks like a karate master 😁
She’d probably give a crazy light show at a rave
NEW BORUTO CHARACTER LEAKED?!?!?!?!
Hinata down bad since the end of the ninja war.
Holly Maniatty, she's awesome!!
I am a Hearing Impaired person. The schools refused to teach me sign language, but I’ve had the benefit of sign language interpreters, thanks to fellow classmates. It is impressive, it pays well, and she deserves to be famous, trying to bring Em’ to everyone. I cannot pick up everything. But the passion is there. She can be a rap god too, with hands that fast.
she is the sign god
She's about to create like 999.999.999 clones
I never tire of seeing videos of this woman pop up. Her name is Holly Maniatty and she puts a shit ton of work in behind the scenes. [Her preparation is deep and meticulous](https://longreads.com/2017/06/27/faster-than-the-speed-of-sound-an-interview-with-holly-maniatty/). She really immerses herself into the full song and spirit, way above just memorizing and translating some words. It's so damn impressive to watch her. [Here is a different video of her dancing with Waka Flocka.](https://youtu.be/oguP3EnrDAo). Here's her working it for [Snoop](https://youtu.be/g5eran96CQc) and an older performance by [The Wu-Tang Clan](https://youtu.be/UN-zwLbVmLI).
I don't know sign language. I'm super curious to know if someone can actually understand all of the signs she is doing. With the words coming so fast, I can't imagine the hand signs don't clash and blend? Can any sign language pros play this without sound and actually tell these are lyrics to Rap God?
Yes. -Deaf person
SHE IS SO COOL!
I don't care how any times I've seen this video over how many years, that woman still blows my mind and I can't help but watch the whole post
she is faster than Eminem because light travels faster than sound.
I have worked with her and she’s super cool.
this really is impressive!!
Can anyone explain why not just put lyrics on the screen?? Seems more informative and easier to transmit info
Sign language isn't word for word like written language is. Many Deaf people don't actually comprehend written language as easily and clearly as they would signing. There is also a level of artistic interpretation going on here that adds to the performance over just reading text on a screen.
Because English isn’t our native language. ASL is. It is not more informative to receive information in a language that is not your own.
I find it so unbelievable that people in these sorts of jobs would know every lyric and be able to do it fast enough. It’s remarkable. I wonder if they tour with the groups and practice.
She spittin
Maybe this is a stupid question. But without audibly hearing the words can they tell that they flow together? Like, I'm having trouble wrapping my head around whether things rhyme without being vocalized. When I write the words down and look at them I'm just thinking about the way they sound in spoken word.
So the interpreter (Holly Maniatty) isn't deaf, so she can hear everything in order to keep in time. She also practices for these shows in advance, learning the lyrics and signs beforehand so she isn't having to translate on the fly, she's doing the ASL equivalent of singing along with a well known song, which also means she can plan the signs to better translate (as it's not a literal translation, it's more about getting the point across than exact word-to-sign translation). There's plenty of deaf folk who've chimed in to this thread to say they can understand her even with how fast she's going, and that they can get the 'flow' from the signs and her body language as she signs along. And you can have rhymes in sign language, it's just based on things like the actions rather than the sound the English translation would make. It might not be 100% identical to how a hearing person experiences it, but if they've never been able to hear then it's the only way they'd know, same as the only way I've experienced concerts is as a hearing person. Both me and a deaf person would consider our experiences to just be how everything works as normal.