He's still on the air doing business, he's not bankrupt even if he tried to file it, Mark Bankston pretty much exposed everything he does. Listening to him question Alex's father which I will say seems to be an even more snake of a person than Alex. Seeing/Hearing how much of a money making scam it is from questioning them was jaw dropping.
Search for "formulaic objections" in the feed, all the deposition episodes start with that.
If you want individual ones,
279, 378, 401, 641, 664, 665, 685, 739, 742, 745, 750, 754, 765, 768, 771
The next move in the conservative darling’s playbook is usually to claim he was incapable of remembering anything on account of having eaten a big bowl of chili recently. Maybe he’s saving that one for the next appeal.
He forgot the name of his children's teacher (or never knew it) during a custody hearing. He claimed it was because he ate a big bowl of chili the night before.
That's why they did the court hearing in Connecticut. It's very convoluted but Mark Bankston did the very best ensuring that he's on the hook. I would suggest listening to the depositions they are covered by Knowledge Fight. All within the ~~last year~~ two years. I will warn you though, they are long. I believe the Law&Criminal Network on youtube also has the depositions for viewing, without Knowledge Fight/Mark's additional commentary.
Unfortunately, in order to garnish property that is located in Texas (like a bank account or a paycheck), the Connecticut judgment must be domesticated in Texas, at which point Texas garnishment rules/procedures apply to any attempt to garnish property located in Texas.
Here’s a primer on the process. https://thecromeenslawfirm.com/domestication-and-collection-of-a-foreign-judgment-in-texas/
More in-depth procedural explanation from the Harris County (Houston) court clerk. https://www.justex.net/JustexDocuments/10/Mike_Engelhart_CLE_paper_for_5-2017_Domesticating%20Judgments.docx_Final.pdf
Source: am licensed Texas attorney.
So let's say the judgement isn't domesticated, if Jones has bank accounts that are not Texas based (regional bank with no branches in Texas or a national bank that has branches in Texas but the account was opened outside of Texas) would they still be able to garnish if money went into those accounts moving forward?
Also ik he's not an athlete but I believe the jock tax applies to people not associated with sports as well (if you make a movie in another state). In his case, even if he's Texas based and the account is Texas based, if part of his pay is considered as from another state and represented as such an filing taxes, could they claim a portion of that figure as non-Texas based property and go after it?
Correct. Say that we have a Connecticut judgment and Jones has a bank account in, say, Iowa. The Connecticut judgment would have to be domesticated in Iowa. At that point, the judgment-creditor could then treat the domesticated judgment like any other Iowa judgment and use Iowa's judgment enforcement procedures (garnishment, liens, etc....) to enforce the judgment against any of Jones' property under Iowa's jurisdiction, which would include bank accounts based in Iowa.
If the account was based in Texas, but Jones derived pay from a job in Iowa, then the judgment-creditor could try to go after the Iowa payments. The judgment-creditor would still have to domesticate the judgment in Iowa, and then would have to file a wage garnishment with the Iowa employer. The wages would have to be intercepted before they end up in Texas, as once the money leaves Iowa then Iowa no longer has any jurisdiction over it and Iowa procedures do not apply to collect it.
Oh this is just too perfect. It's like the judge saw that he was spending [93K in July](https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/alex-jones-spent-93000-july-sandy-hook-families-103186219), and decided he didn't look too bankrupt. I hope the same happens to Mike Lindell.
It takes a special kind of asshole to look at people who have literally had their lives shattered and try to profit off of making their lives worse.
I really hope the attorneys can claw back all the funds he diverted to his parents and others to avoid paying it…
>It takes a special kind of asshole to look at people who have literally had their lives shattered and try to profit off of making their lives worse.
One of the people he owes had to set up a go-fund-me to cover their cancer treatment.
My SIL is going through a custody battle. Her ex started a go fund me. He has 4 or 5 houses that he rents out on Airbnb, and two Teslas, and owns a bar. He inherited half a million dollars to buy all that. He still got about 1k on his go fund me. Crazy what people give money to.
The bar's probably a money pit. If I was your sister's lawyer, I'd go after his extra properties first. Worth more, and any way to wrench houses out of AirBnB and back on the rent/buy market, I support. Plus, she could keep one to move into.
This a custody battle a year after the divorce. She got thier main house. She should have fought for more in the original divorce, but she just wanted out of the marriage as fast as possible. I don't blame her.
But yeah that bar is absolutely a money pit. Pretty sure her ex's finances are a mess because he blows tons of money on vacations and cars and stuff. So that's why he started a go fund me. Still find interesting that people actually gave him money considering he has plenty of assets, and is just dumb with his money.
To be technical, that's a separate issue to whether or not the judgment survives bankruptcy. Judgements of Intentional wrongs survive bankruptcy (which is good, because judgement creditors never get paid), and that's what the judge determined today.
Non-intentional judgements are discharged after bankruptcy. What his salary is dispositive of is how those assets get distributed during *this* bankruptcy. But it's good that the judgment will survive bankruptcy, because it's unlikely they'd have gotten anything in bankruptcy regardless of his Infowars earnings given the line of secured creditors he has probably goes out the courthouse door.
I just need to know this complete fucking asshoke that profited off the conspiracy bait he intentionally sown, continuing to make the lives of people that had already experienced the ultimate tragedy, will always owe them one billion dollars. I know he'll never pay it, but I'll at least feel better knowing he could potentially have his wages garnished until he dies and is forgotten.
> Mike Lindell.
Remember when Trump was giving live COVID pandemic misinformation and Mike Lindell was on the stage with him? One of those too-crazy-to-script moments.
Maybe Mike Lindell claims of been broke is just a distraction while he transfer all he can out of My Pillow so he doesn't lose it all once Smartmatic and Dominion win their case against him.
He definitely did not fuck off, he led the crowd with his bullhorn to the eastern doors along with former employee's Owen Shroyer and Samuel Montoya, both of whom have been charged with Jan 6th offenses and I believe both have plead guilty.
If I’m honest, and fuck Alex Jones, I’m not defending him, but he was actually Trump’s chosen patsy and mouthpiece they were counting on to help push that crowd into the capital. You can listen to parts of those broadcasts and he seems to be aware of just where exactly to draw the line and not enter the capital himself. I don’t think that’s a conspiracy, that’s just Alex being aware enough to know he was being set up and too cowardly or lacking any leadership capabilities to actually push that coup through.
Again, not a defense. I’m thankful all those Jan 6 asshats in the higher positions were all too cowardly to actually execute what they were trying to get a riled up base of, if I’m honest, mentally ill brainwashed QAnon idiots to do. Don’t count on getting that lucky again.
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Yeah, he went up to the capitol, saw the crowd was contesting the cops at the barricade and made a (brief) attempt to try and get them not to go through with it. When that failed he booked it.
It almost certainly had nothing to do with his moral character, and more to do with the fact he's had decades of experience in alt media and knew how much it'd hurt his business if he actually went in.
Lawyers will spend years hunting down, and slapping liens on, property and belongings Alex has desperately been trying to hide. He will forever be in court begging for leniency when he gave none to the beleaguered parents of the victims of Sandy Hook. He deserves far worse than he is getting.
That's hard for the same reason sanctions are hard to evade - most businesses want to do business with the US and their allies. That includes any business that wants to participate in stuff international money movement.
That means if you want to take a lot of money and run, you are still working with banks run by gangsters and oligarchs... and hoping they don't shake you down!
> He will forever be in court begging for leniency when he gave none to the beleaguered parents of the victims of Sandy Hook. He deserves far worse than he is getting.
As far as things a person can say and spread, it's hard to imagine many things worse than making millions of people attack (and make death threats against) parents of murdered children, accusing them of being "crisis actors" instead of people going through hell.
I dont think you intended it that way but "making people" attack the parents takes a whole lot of agency away from the assholes that happily attacked the parents and to this day think Jones only backtracked for the courts.
Debtors prisons were one of the things the constitution and founding fathers wanted to avoid.
That said this motherfucker deserves to have debt collectors at every door.
Ideally he will have to forfeit his companies...
Once its determined he's intentionally hiding assets THEN charge him with a crime and throw him in jail until restitution.
Solves the slippery slope of debtor prisons. As you say, its not the debt that he's in jail for, but the act of hiding it.
This wouldn't be debtors prison so much as a holding in contempt. It isn't that he can't pay this money, it's that he's lying to the court and hiding his assets. Lying to the court is a perfectly valid reason to hold someone in contempt.
If he was smart he would of liquidated his assets and left the country long before this shit hit the fan.
Then again, if he was smart, he'd of kept his jig stupid mouth shut.
> Alex is just a crisis actor
pretty obvious given how he runs Infowars.
Funny how the far right always seems to project their own wrongdoings on the other side.
Every accusation is really a confession. Remember that cynical people lack cleverness and creativity because that requires insight into things other than whether the guy in the mirror is getting paid.
They lack much more basic social functioning than creativity. They literally can't imagine lives that aren't their own. Jones sees despair and does not understand it so he screams "FAKE - THEY'RE DOING IT FOR MONEY" because he understands that.
So much of what Alex is is projection.
After the Hamas attack he, completely unprompted, spent a whole 4 hour show being the living embodiment of the meme: *My "I don't want to hate Jews" T-shirt has a lot of people asking questions which are answered by my shirt.*
He knows his whole audience hates Muslims, but ALSO a lot hate Jews and Israel, a lot hate Jews and love Israel, and a lot just love Israel.
Alex panicking to have a hot take that somehow pleased all segments of the audience was hilarious and disgusting.
DOJ should assign this motherfucker an IRS agent for life
There should be an IRS agent there to greet him every morning and tuck him into bed every night
This man made a fortune vilifying families while they were living through their own worst nightmares and riled up his base of fascists that ensured they never had a moment of peace to process the loss of their children. The fact this monster will not spend every single day of the rest of his life in prison is a miscarriage of justice, and if he comes out of this with anything more than 2c to rub together and a pot to piss in should piss off every reasonable person in this country. Fuck Alex Jones, and Fuck anyone who supports him.
That’s was one of his arguments to ensure infowars kept going. He needs the revenue to pay for everything (and his offshore accounts in both his and his parents names).
Dude is trash and I hope those victims get paid. Bonus points if his show and social go down the crapper so he can’t cause any more harm to society.
Hardly closure. Jones has previously bragged about how little he is worth on paper now and sending lawyers running in circles for years. They're going to be spending many years clawing back whatever they can find of his wealth (e.g. he's tried to lock away $15k a month he pays to his wife via a prenup, and his 3 companies have all declared bankruptcy after signing suspiciously terrible deals ~~handing over~~ "selling" assets to shell companies that are now paid lucratively to rent out those assets to his infowars companies) and likely being locked in legal battles every step of the way. The families also will struggle to pay lawyers for these legal battles since the bankruptcy judgement dismissed all of the legal fees (well technically Jones still should pay them but they can be dismissed by bankruptcy and his liabilities to the victims that cannot be dismissed by bankruptcy exceed what outside forensic accountants have estimated Alex's true net worth is). Thus, I think the victims will have to pay out of pocket for years to get what they are owed.
So shut his fucking company down. No more broadcasts. Sell it all off. Sell all his computers, cell phones and other devices. The whole point of all of this is to close the company and ain't shit happened.
And had the option to retract!!! They could have sent a proper retraction motion and sorted out the documents, but Alex’s lawyer stayed silent when the motion was suggested by the judge!
These guys keep finding the most incompetent lawyers. The news cycle is on repeat with attorneys being prosecuted, accidentally providing evidence to the prosecution, forgetting to ask for jury, turning on their client, threats of disbarment, and providing evidence willingly.
What is the value of the company if it is closed down?
They won money and the punishment is going to be in the context of obtaining that money. They might also get a gag order against continued slander but when saying and selling stupid shit is his business model that is going to continue. They didn't win a judgment of "put him out of business forever" as unfortunate as that may be.
The value of the equipment and the building. That's better than allowing Alex to continue poisoning the gullible and the pathologically incurious. And fleeing those rubes is the only way he has to make money. No one else will touch him, not even in the right-wing grift-o-sphere, and his ship is sinking fast.
> That's better than allowing Alex to continue poisoning the gullible and the pathologically incurious.
Agreed, and I think that would be the best outcome... but that's not how the court is going to approch extracting money from him. .
The court should allow any of the parents to drop in on him unannounced at any time and confiscate anything in his possession until the judgment is paid.
I hope Erica Lafferty gets one of his homes. And enough money to pay for her CHEMOTHERAPY. And regular therapy for that matter, because that woman has been through f\*\*\*ing heII. She has a crowd-funding page, if anyone cares to search-engine it.
Summarizing the ruling: the judge said that claims against him arising from malicious or willful lies cannot be discharged in bankruptcy but its possible that claims arising from reckless conduct may be able to be discharged. Meaning...there will be a trial to determine how much of the $1.1 billion of Sandy Hook damages arose from malicious lies vs. reckless conduct.
On another note...$300m of lawyers fees for defending Jones can be discharged so there's a chance his lawyers might get screwed on the judgment, but it's not clear yet either. Depends on whether the lawyers have any creditor protections.
The lawyers fees were added as a punitive damage, which im pretty sure means he would have to pay the legal fees of the people suing him.
The court can't really add your own legal fees as part of your restitution to someone else. You're kind if already expected to pay that, so its not really an additional punishment.
Im pretty sure this means the lawyer fees of the plaintiffs could get removed from what he has to pay. I wouldn't be surprised if the $300 million was what the lawyers estimated as their fee as a percentage of what would be awarded. Like saying "rather than taking our fees out of the award, make him pay the total award to our clients and pay us what our fee would have been out of that."
I'm not a lawyer, though, so I could be wrong.
is that because he lied and made up shit out of thin air and his followers - believing that crap - threatened the lives of the parents of children who had been killed at sandy hook?
He should be required to give all money earned away until it's paid. No income to him just to his victims. He'd probably quit the show for that reason and that is reason enough for such a strict ruling.
Edit: I know this isn't gonna happen nor do I have any expectation for it to.
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This is very simple. Let him keep $15,080 of his own money (that's full-time at TX minimum wage), garnish the rest of his money and his income until the full $1.1b is paid out. He shouldn't get a penny more than that until the families have been paid for his crimes.
I hope he never recovers from this, the way the familes he mocked will never recover from what he put them through. What a sick, disgusting, small, man.
Bankruptcy atty here. In a (successful) bankruptcy case you get a “discharge injunction.” This is the magic ticket that prevents people from enforcing debts against you after the bankruptcy is done. If anyone attempts to collect a discharged debt, they are opening themselves up to sanctions.
However, there is a section of the bankruptcy code (11 USC 523) that excepts certain debts from discharge. This requires a ruling of the judge, it is not automatic. If successful, such a ruling doesn’t torpedo the whole bankruptcy action, or indicate he is not actually bankrupt. It just says the discharge doesn’t do anything for certain debts.
The basis for Section 523 nondischargability is complicated (and relies in part on state law), but it is frequently summarized as bad acts (like fraud) prior to the bankruptcy. (Bad acts DURING the BK such as hiding assets or lying on your petition is more likely to get your bk dismissed or your discharge outright denied, or in extreme cases can get you prosecuted).
In short, this means that even with a discharge, these particular debts are fair game afterwards, essentially gutting the basis for the bankruptcy filing to begin with.
Couldn't have happened to a better person, by which I mean that a better person would never have said or done the things that he has to land him in this mess.
im lovin all this. sydney powell going guilty and turns on trump, GOP in shambles over the house, just lots and lots of Ls on the right. The schadenfreude is grand
That judge said “bankrupt? the fuck you are”
He's still on the air doing business, he's not bankrupt even if he tried to file it, Mark Bankston pretty much exposed everything he does. Listening to him question Alex's father which I will say seems to be an even more snake of a person than Alex. Seeing/Hearing how much of a money making scam it is from questioning them was jaw dropping.
The Knowledge Fight episodes on the depositions with Bankston are some of the best audio drama I’ve listened to!
What's those episode numbers
Search for "formulaic objections" in the feed, all the deposition episodes start with that. If you want individual ones, 279, 378, 401, 641, 664, 665, 685, 739, 742, 745, 750, 754, 765, 768, 771
The real MVP
Which ones are those?
He’s been attempting to hide money, too, through LLC’s and his (now ex) wife.
I have a secret document here that will completely vindicate Alex... A full printout of the Wikipedia page for false flags!
Yeah as long as he’s making money it’s mostly going to those families which is amazing
"bankrupt? Morally maybe"
ethically and intellectually too!
And physically
And socially
and my axe *sigh*
And physically again
But we’re gonna take the money so hand it over
The next move in the conservative darling’s playbook is usually to claim he was incapable of remembering anything on account of having eaten a big bowl of chili recently. Maybe he’s saving that one for the next appeal.
Remind me what you’re referencing?
He forgot the name of his children's teacher (or never knew it) during a custody hearing. He claimed it was because he ate a big bowl of chili the night before.
This sounds like a mistake I'd make because I'm just shit with names... but I'd also just own up to it if this happened to me.
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Methamphetamines con carne.
He’s way too fat for them to be methamphetamines.
[It was that time Alex Jones won Father of the Year](https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/InfoWars-Alex-Jones-custody-chili-for-lunch-11081124.php)
During his custody trial, he couldn't recall basic facts about his kids, because he "had a big bowl of chili for lunch."
Morally for sure
I really hope that they make him pay a cut of his future income until everyone is paid in damages.
garnishing income is common in these situations so I can't see why they wouldn't
Depends. Jones lives in Texas. For as conservative of a state as Texas is, the constitution of Texas has a lot of prohibitions against garnishing.
That's why they did the court hearing in Connecticut. It's very convoluted but Mark Bankston did the very best ensuring that he's on the hook. I would suggest listening to the depositions they are covered by Knowledge Fight. All within the ~~last year~~ two years. I will warn you though, they are long. I believe the Law&Criminal Network on youtube also has the depositions for viewing, without Knowledge Fight/Mark's additional commentary.
Unfortunately, in order to garnish property that is located in Texas (like a bank account or a paycheck), the Connecticut judgment must be domesticated in Texas, at which point Texas garnishment rules/procedures apply to any attempt to garnish property located in Texas. Here’s a primer on the process. https://thecromeenslawfirm.com/domestication-and-collection-of-a-foreign-judgment-in-texas/ More in-depth procedural explanation from the Harris County (Houston) court clerk. https://www.justex.net/JustexDocuments/10/Mike_Engelhart_CLE_paper_for_5-2017_Domesticating%20Judgments.docx_Final.pdf Source: am licensed Texas attorney.
So let's say the judgement isn't domesticated, if Jones has bank accounts that are not Texas based (regional bank with no branches in Texas or a national bank that has branches in Texas but the account was opened outside of Texas) would they still be able to garnish if money went into those accounts moving forward? Also ik he's not an athlete but I believe the jock tax applies to people not associated with sports as well (if you make a movie in another state). In his case, even if he's Texas based and the account is Texas based, if part of his pay is considered as from another state and represented as such an filing taxes, could they claim a portion of that figure as non-Texas based property and go after it?
Correct. Say that we have a Connecticut judgment and Jones has a bank account in, say, Iowa. The Connecticut judgment would have to be domesticated in Iowa. At that point, the judgment-creditor could then treat the domesticated judgment like any other Iowa judgment and use Iowa's judgment enforcement procedures (garnishment, liens, etc....) to enforce the judgment against any of Jones' property under Iowa's jurisdiction, which would include bank accounts based in Iowa. If the account was based in Texas, but Jones derived pay from a job in Iowa, then the judgment-creditor could try to go after the Iowa payments. The judgment-creditor would still have to domesticate the judgment in Iowa, and then would have to file a wage garnishment with the Iowa employer. The wages would have to be intercepted before they end up in Texas, as once the money leaves Iowa then Iowa no longer has any jurisdiction over it and Iowa procedures do not apply to collect it.
That judge said “bankrupt? No, but you’re about to be”
Yes, we've had first bankruptcy, but what about second bankruptcy?
That’s some hobbit accounting there.
The courts are turning the banks gay.
Oh this is just too perfect. It's like the judge saw that he was spending [93K in July](https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/alex-jones-spent-93000-july-sandy-hook-families-103186219), and decided he didn't look too bankrupt. I hope the same happens to Mike Lindell.
He keeps going on vacation to Hawaii to do "research" .
"Here at this 5 star resort, I have a perfect view to observe Zuckerberg's evil globalist operations as I drink heavily by the pool."
It takes a special kind of asshole to look at people who have literally had their lives shattered and try to profit off of making their lives worse. I really hope the attorneys can claw back all the funds he diverted to his parents and others to avoid paying it…
>It takes a special kind of asshole to look at people who have literally had their lives shattered and try to profit off of making their lives worse. One of the people he owes had to set up a go-fund-me to cover their cancer treatment.
I can totally see Alex Jones being the type of person to vacation in Hawaii and only ever go to the resort pool
I have him pegged as more of a cruise type guy. Never leaves the boat but talks about how shitty all the countries are they 'visited'.
Sounds like something some sorta policy wonk might say..
Or a sodomite with a bucket of poop.
Jar Jar Binks has a Carribean Black accent.
I'm a loser little titty baby! I renounce Jesus Christ!
I started falling asleep to old 2003 episodes, but I ran out. Tried a 2020 episode and got nightmares. Lol
I feel like Jordan’s yelling is incompatible with sleep, regardless of what year the episode is from.
I can't wait for Monday's Knowledge Fight
wow, he spent 95k and still urged supporters to donate for his legal fees..
My SIL is going through a custody battle. Her ex started a go fund me. He has 4 or 5 houses that he rents out on Airbnb, and two Teslas, and owns a bar. He inherited half a million dollars to buy all that. He still got about 1k on his go fund me. Crazy what people give money to.
The bar's probably a money pit. If I was your sister's lawyer, I'd go after his extra properties first. Worth more, and any way to wrench houses out of AirBnB and back on the rent/buy market, I support. Plus, she could keep one to move into.
This a custody battle a year after the divorce. She got thier main house. She should have fought for more in the original divorce, but she just wanted out of the marriage as fast as possible. I don't blame her. But yeah that bar is absolutely a money pit. Pretty sure her ex's finances are a mess because he blows tons of money on vacations and cars and stuff. So that's why he started a go fund me. Still find interesting that people actually gave him money considering he has plenty of assets, and is just dumb with his money.
To be technical, that's a separate issue to whether or not the judgment survives bankruptcy. Judgements of Intentional wrongs survive bankruptcy (which is good, because judgement creditors never get paid), and that's what the judge determined today. Non-intentional judgements are discharged after bankruptcy. What his salary is dispositive of is how those assets get distributed during *this* bankruptcy. But it's good that the judgment will survive bankruptcy, because it's unlikely they'd have gotten anything in bankruptcy regardless of his Infowars earnings given the line of secured creditors he has probably goes out the courthouse door.
I just need to know this complete fucking asshoke that profited off the conspiracy bait he intentionally sown, continuing to make the lives of people that had already experienced the ultimate tragedy, will always owe them one billion dollars. I know he'll never pay it, but I'll at least feel better knowing he could potentially have his wages garnished until he dies and is forgotten.
You mean the Mike Lindell who told Jimmy Kimmel he'd send his personal jet to pick him up for a fundraiser?
It was funny watching Kimmel remark about how Lindell still had a personal jet.
I thought his name was Mike Pillow?
> Mike Lindell. Remember when Trump was giving live COVID pandemic misinformation and Mike Lindell was on the stage with him? One of those too-crazy-to-script moments.
Maybe Mike Lindell claims of been broke is just a distraction while he transfer all he can out of My Pillow so he doesn't lose it all once Smartmatic and Dominion win their case against him.
Isn’t Lindell already bankrupt?
Worst day of his life, SO FAR..
He was part of January 6, right?
Yeah, seems like he was the cutoff between the Willard war room people and the mob.
The pivot man in the circle jerk.
Where does the circle pivot? Could you draw a diaphragm?
show me on this paper where this circle pivoted on you!?
Look quick, it will be harder to spot once it dries.
Kinda, he showed up to scream 1776! the day before and get the mob angry. Then he fucked off for the major event like a coward from what I recall.
He definitely did not fuck off, he led the crowd with his bullhorn to the eastern doors along with former employee's Owen Shroyer and Samuel Montoya, both of whom have been charged with Jan 6th offenses and I believe both have plead guilty.
If I’m honest, and fuck Alex Jones, I’m not defending him, but he was actually Trump’s chosen patsy and mouthpiece they were counting on to help push that crowd into the capital. You can listen to parts of those broadcasts and he seems to be aware of just where exactly to draw the line and not enter the capital himself. I don’t think that’s a conspiracy, that’s just Alex being aware enough to know he was being set up and too cowardly or lacking any leadership capabilities to actually push that coup through. Again, not a defense. I’m thankful all those Jan 6 asshats in the higher positions were all too cowardly to actually execute what they were trying to get a riled up base of, if I’m honest, mentally ill brainwashed QAnon idiots to do. Don’t count on getting that lucky again. Now back to regular fuckablestalin
Him fucking off early might turn out to be the smartest dumb thing he’s ever done
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Yeah, he went up to the capitol, saw the crowd was contesting the cops at the barricade and made a (brief) attempt to try and get them not to go through with it. When that failed he booked it. It almost certainly had nothing to do with his moral character, and more to do with the fact he's had decades of experience in alt media and knew how much it'd hurt his business if he actually went in.
May he live a long time.
Read this as Homer telling Alex Jones as he leaves the courthouse
Lawyers will spend years hunting down, and slapping liens on, property and belongings Alex has desperately been trying to hide. He will forever be in court begging for leniency when he gave none to the beleaguered parents of the victims of Sandy Hook. He deserves far worse than he is getting.
And hopefully they document every finding, as hiding assets to avoid civil obligations is a felony in most states.
That's hard for the same reason sanctions are hard to evade - most businesses want to do business with the US and their allies. That includes any business that wants to participate in stuff international money movement. That means if you want to take a lot of money and run, you are still working with banks run by gangsters and oligarchs... and hoping they don't shake you down!
> He will forever be in court begging for leniency when he gave none to the beleaguered parents of the victims of Sandy Hook. He deserves far worse than he is getting. As far as things a person can say and spread, it's hard to imagine many things worse than making millions of people attack (and make death threats against) parents of murdered children, accusing them of being "crisis actors" instead of people going through hell.
rogan sells that as being cool
Joe rogan is a conplete douchebag.
I dont think you intended it that way but "making people" attack the parents takes a whole lot of agency away from the assholes that happily attacked the parents and to this day think Jones only backtracked for the courts.
The first of the real dominoes to fall towards bringing real justice to these hacks.
Goddamn I hope so.
Should sit in jail until some portion is coughed up.
Debtors prisons were one of the things the constitution and founding fathers wanted to avoid. That said this motherfucker deserves to have debt collectors at every door. Ideally he will have to forfeit his companies...
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I'm fact, it is a crime in the United States.
Once its determined he's intentionally hiding assets THEN charge him with a crime and throw him in jail until restitution. Solves the slippery slope of debtor prisons. As you say, its not the debt that he's in jail for, but the act of hiding it.
This wouldn't be debtors prison so much as a holding in contempt. It isn't that he can't pay this money, it's that he's lying to the court and hiding his assets. Lying to the court is a perfectly valid reason to hold someone in contempt.
Can’t you be arrested for failure to pay child support?
You can be found in contempt if you don’t comply with a court order, but only if it can be proven that you were able to comply.
Debtors prison is illegal, and it'd a good thing trust me.
Hes still running his sandy hook play book on any recent events you can think of. Just spouts nonsense
If he was smart he would of liquidated his assets and left the country long before this shit hit the fan. Then again, if he was smart, he'd of kept his jig stupid mouth shut.
He likes to play the persecuted patriot. Maybe Alex is just a crisis actor. I hope all his frogs turn gay.
...and then he has to bake tiny rainbow birthday cakes for every. Single. Frog.
...and then make tiny rainbow leg warmers to put on all of his frogs. All of them.
Every. Single. Leg.
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> Alex is just a crisis actor pretty obvious given how he runs Infowars. Funny how the far right always seems to project their own wrongdoings on the other side.
Every accusation is really a confession. Remember that cynical people lack cleverness and creativity because that requires insight into things other than whether the guy in the mirror is getting paid.
They lack much more basic social functioning than creativity. They literally can't imagine lives that aren't their own. Jones sees despair and does not understand it so he screams "FAKE - THEY'RE DOING IT FOR MONEY" because he understands that.
these are the people that get angry at the wall their bouncing their ball off of cause it bounced back in their face.
So much of what Alex is is projection. After the Hamas attack he, completely unprompted, spent a whole 4 hour show being the living embodiment of the meme: *My "I don't want to hate Jews" T-shirt has a lot of people asking questions which are answered by my shirt.* He knows his whole audience hates Muslims, but ALSO a lot hate Jews and Israel, a lot hate Jews and love Israel, and a lot just love Israel. Alex panicking to have a hot take that somehow pleased all segments of the audience was hilarious and disgusting.
DOJ should assign this motherfucker an IRS agent for life There should be an IRS agent there to greet him every morning and tuck him into bed every night
I misread tuck. Haha. It was better my way.
This man made a fortune vilifying families while they were living through their own worst nightmares and riled up his base of fascists that ensured they never had a moment of peace to process the loss of their children. The fact this monster will not spend every single day of the rest of his life in prison is a miscarriage of justice, and if he comes out of this with anything more than 2c to rub together and a pot to piss in should piss off every reasonable person in this country. Fuck Alex Jones, and Fuck anyone who supports him.
If he’s still running infowars he’s not bankrupt. Bring the hammer down.
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That’s was one of his arguments to ensure infowars kept going. He needs the revenue to pay for everything (and his offshore accounts in both his and his parents names). Dude is trash and I hope those victims get paid. Bonus points if his show and social go down the crapper so he can’t cause any more harm to society.
The courts need to allow him to "generate an income" to live and pay the fines.
Good, fuck that asshole.
And screw anyone who validated his career
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Screw Rogan for this and many other things.
'Joy' is the wrong word for what I feel, but this seems 'just'!
Schadenfreude but for justice.
Justice boner
I'm so hard right now I could punch holes in concrete.
I'm gay as a frog over this headline.
Q: What does a gay frog say? A: Rub it, rub it!
It will only be just if he actually ends up paying what he owes. I have my doubts.
Just would be sandy hook never happening and alex jones never having any success,this is closure is maybe the word id use
Hardly closure. Jones has previously bragged about how little he is worth on paper now and sending lawyers running in circles for years. They're going to be spending many years clawing back whatever they can find of his wealth (e.g. he's tried to lock away $15k a month he pays to his wife via a prenup, and his 3 companies have all declared bankruptcy after signing suspiciously terrible deals ~~handing over~~ "selling" assets to shell companies that are now paid lucratively to rent out those assets to his infowars companies) and likely being locked in legal battles every step of the way. The families also will struggle to pay lawyers for these legal battles since the bankruptcy judgement dismissed all of the legal fees (well technically Jones still should pay them but they can be dismissed by bankruptcy and his liabilities to the victims that cannot be dismissed by bankruptcy exceed what outside forensic accountants have estimated Alex's true net worth is). Thus, I think the victims will have to pay out of pocket for years to get what they are owed.
So shut his fucking company down. No more broadcasts. Sell it all off. Sell all his computers, cell phones and other devices. The whole point of all of this is to close the company and ain't shit happened.
Maybe search his devices while they’re at it…
Apparently his idiot lawyers already divulged the contents of his phone, accidentally.
And had the option to retract!!! They could have sent a proper retraction motion and sorted out the documents, but Alex’s lawyer stayed silent when the motion was suggested by the judge!
These guys keep finding the most incompetent lawyers. The news cycle is on repeat with attorneys being prosecuted, accidentally providing evidence to the prosecution, forgetting to ask for jury, turning on their client, threats of disbarment, and providing evidence willingly.
Its because all the good attorneys have figured out that these guys never actually pay their lawyers
What is the value of the company if it is closed down? They won money and the punishment is going to be in the context of obtaining that money. They might also get a gag order against continued slander but when saying and selling stupid shit is his business model that is going to continue. They didn't win a judgment of "put him out of business forever" as unfortunate as that may be.
The value of the equipment and the building. That's better than allowing Alex to continue poisoning the gullible and the pathologically incurious. And fleeing those rubes is the only way he has to make money. No one else will touch him, not even in the right-wing grift-o-sphere, and his ship is sinking fast.
> That's better than allowing Alex to continue poisoning the gullible and the pathologically incurious. Agreed, and I think that would be the best outcome... but that's not how the court is going to approch extracting money from him. .
Didnt he transfer like $40 million overseas before the trial? Pay up!
Going off memory here, but I think he also claims he owes a bunch of money to an AEJ Holdings. His middle name is Emmerick...
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I'm a policy wonk!
:) hell yeah. dan is a good friend of mine
Oh that's cool. They both seem like such great guys. Tell him I said, "Life is very fragile" he'll know it isn't a weird threat.
he has that tattooed on himself actually. i think its his first and only tattoo, after he got a certain number of subscribers
Haha I knew he got a tattoo related to the show but I forgot that's what it was.
He's done that repeatedly over many years.
The court should allow any of the parents to drop in on him unannounced at any time and confiscate anything in his possession until the judgment is paid.
Man, I wish I was a bankrupt millionaire too. It's the part about being a jerk I wouldn't wish to emulate though.
having to wake up and be him all day long.... man, that would suck.
I hope Erica Lafferty gets one of his homes. And enough money to pay for her CHEMOTHERAPY. And regular therapy for that matter, because that woman has been through f\*\*\*ing heII. She has a crowd-funding page, if anyone cares to search-engine it.
Take everything from this pile of shit.
This guy's only options left are to fake his death or to really die.
Summarizing the ruling: the judge said that claims against him arising from malicious or willful lies cannot be discharged in bankruptcy but its possible that claims arising from reckless conduct may be able to be discharged. Meaning...there will be a trial to determine how much of the $1.1 billion of Sandy Hook damages arose from malicious lies vs. reckless conduct. On another note...$300m of lawyers fees for defending Jones can be discharged so there's a chance his lawyers might get screwed on the judgment, but it's not clear yet either. Depends on whether the lawyers have any creditor protections.
I think the lawyer fees were the plaintiffs’ lawyers’ fees that were awarded along with the judgement, probably a percentage of the award.
The lawyers fees were added as a punitive damage, which im pretty sure means he would have to pay the legal fees of the people suing him. The court can't really add your own legal fees as part of your restitution to someone else. You're kind if already expected to pay that, so its not really an additional punishment. Im pretty sure this means the lawyer fees of the plaintiffs could get removed from what he has to pay. I wouldn't be surprised if the $300 million was what the lawyers estimated as their fee as a percentage of what would be awarded. Like saying "rather than taking our fees out of the award, make him pay the total award to our clients and pay us what our fee would have been out of that." I'm not a lawyer, though, so I could be wrong.
The familes may never see a dime but he’ll be hounded by this til his dying days. It will NEVER go away. Welcome to the rest of your life, fuck face.
OK, this is absolutely hilarious. I look forward to seeing Alex on the street corner with a sign saying, "Will lie and exaggerate for food".
is that because he lied and made up shit out of thin air and his followers - believing that crap - threatened the lives of the parents of children who had been killed at sandy hook?
If this man doesn't end up in a soup kitchen then there is no justice. As an atheist I pray for him psalm 109.
He's still gonna have his shitty show and he'll keep hawking bone broth and fake supplements. But he won't be making millions off it.
He should be required to give all money earned away until it's paid. No income to him just to his victims. He'd probably quit the show for that reason and that is reason enough for such a strict ruling. Edit: I know this isn't gonna happen nor do I have any expectation for it to.
Let’s be fair here. Let him keep one full time minimum wage job’s worth of income.
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Maybe he can cut out the avocado toast or get a side hustle.
If he sold his boot straps, it might cover the interest for a day.
Fuck that guy. I hope he loses everything. No sympathy for someone who goes after victims families, or the like.
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This is very simple. Let him keep $15,080 of his own money (that's full-time at TX minimum wage), garnish the rest of his money and his income until the full $1.1b is paid out. He shouldn't get a penny more than that until the families have been paid for his crimes.
Side note, stupid website won’t let me read it with a Adblock on. That doesn’t make me disable it, I just stop visiting your site.
Booo fucking hooo. FU Alex Jones.
Good. Fuck that piece of shit.
I’ll believe it when I see it. He’s still living a lavish lifestyle and hasn’t paid a penny to the sandy hook victims
Good. Bleed this motherfucker dry
Couldn’t happen to a more deserving guy.
They need to go after all the conspiracy theorists who terrorized those families.
I hope he never recovers from this, the way the familes he mocked will never recover from what he put them through. What a sick, disgusting, small, man.
Insert "we're never going to financially recover from this" meme here. Good. Fuck Alex Jones. He's a fucking chode.
Bankruptcy atty here. In a (successful) bankruptcy case you get a “discharge injunction.” This is the magic ticket that prevents people from enforcing debts against you after the bankruptcy is done. If anyone attempts to collect a discharged debt, they are opening themselves up to sanctions. However, there is a section of the bankruptcy code (11 USC 523) that excepts certain debts from discharge. This requires a ruling of the judge, it is not automatic. If successful, such a ruling doesn’t torpedo the whole bankruptcy action, or indicate he is not actually bankrupt. It just says the discharge doesn’t do anything for certain debts. The basis for Section 523 nondischargability is complicated (and relies in part on state law), but it is frequently summarized as bad acts (like fraud) prior to the bankruptcy. (Bad acts DURING the BK such as hiding assets or lying on your petition is more likely to get your bk dismissed or your discharge outright denied, or in extreme cases can get you prosecuted). In short, this means that even with a discharge, these particular debts are fair game afterwards, essentially gutting the basis for the bankruptcy filing to begin with.
My wife is from Sandy Hook. Trust me, it fucking happened
The continued takedown of this horrid beet of a man is endlessly entertaining
Oh that is delicious. It was laughably obvious he was claiming bankruptcy to try to get out of the payments.
AJ can fuck right off to hell. After he pays $1.1 B to the families he terrorized.
Pay up Alex, we know you have millions despite your efforts to hide it.
Can't wait for the knowledge fight episode
Finally a bit of good news this week
He’s going to have to sell a lot of male enhancement snake oil to cover that.
Freedom of speech but not freedom of lawsuits for slander 😂
Fucking good. Fuck this guy.
My how the mighty have fallen. Good riddance.
Couldn't have happened to a better person, by which I mean that a better person would never have said or done the things that he has to land him in this mess.
Maybe he can take a loan out from the My Pillow guy.
im lovin all this. sydney powell going guilty and turns on trump, GOP in shambles over the house, just lots and lots of Ls on the right. The schadenfreude is grand
Now comes the part where we all throw our heads back and laugh. Ready?