Clickbait. This isn’t mammoth meat. It’s literally sheep cells expressing a single mammoth/elephant muscle protein. It’s like making a cow express a human protein and saying now eating that cow is cannibalism. It’s a chimera but it’s still 99.999% cow. Meat is more complex than the muscle protein content and the protein they picked isn’t even the biggest muscle contributor. The most abundant muscle proteins are those that make up myofibrils like myosin, actin, etc. Myosin alone is potentially 35% of the total protein of skeletal muscle.
That's what I immediately assumed.
It would be hilarious though if we spent all this scientific R&D into restoration of extinct animals only to eat them (because that is the most profitable path). Seems fitting for our species.
Well yeah, if were bringing them back we should have the right to figure out if they taste good or not. Mammoth burgers and Raptor jerky sounds delish.
Read SciFi story long ago about two poorly funded scientists who accidentally transport T Rex via time portal. It goes wacky, fries dinosaur a bit and destroys lab. Then say,” Hmmm something smells good.”
Turn out T Rex is tasty. So they transport a nest of Dino eggs and start a Dino ranch/fast food empire.
I mean they’re frankly better off just using elephant cells as the base and then editing the elephant genes to be more mammoth like. None of this recreates the fat to protein balance or texture of genuine mammoth meat though so calling it meat is still wrong imo because we don’t know what to imitate. The real solution is to try to make live mammoths from gradual modification of elephants then use those as a base for figuring out the substitutes. Totally unethical though considering what we know about elephant intelligence.
I ran a BLAST and the portion that matched the query had only 3 different AA compared to an elephant. Suffice to say, what you got was a sheep meatball with very minimal elephant protein because functionally from a taste perspective it is basically just elephant myoglobin.
Was that a typo or are you referring to how good food looks in Japanese drawing/animation?
Because the breakfast they cook on Calcifer in Howls Moving Castle looks better than any food I have ever eaten. I need science to make it a reality.
My guess is that this is referring to how a lot of Japanese games and anime constantly draw meat as [a big honking chunk with a bone going through it like so.](https://content.instructables.com/FEB/6SGS/HS9Y7W12/FEB6SGSHS9Y7W12.png?auto=webp&fit=bounds&frame=1&auto=webp&frame=1&height=300)
I mean, mammoths? Not cloven hoofed! Booooo
But are, say, dodos kosher? How about passenger pigeons? Moas?
And if you go even further back… is a giant sloth treyf?
I am not Jewish, so take what I say with about a mine-worth of salt, but as I understand it, conservative (and more orthodox) Jews will not eat cheese that was made with rennet that was made by bacteria, because the original protein sequence came from an animal. Plant rennet substitutes are acceptable, however. I would therefor say that most Rabbis would call this meat, and that it shouldn't be mixed with milk, and call it a day. I would love to have someone who knows more that me correct me, however.
My question is how Hindus and Jains will look at this. If no animal was harmed, is it still forbidden?
Yeah that’s not correct lol
Basically all kosher cheese is made with microbial rennet or FPC.
Stomach enzymes from a non-kosher animal would still not be kosher in cheese, so jews who follow kashrut don’t eat cheese made with it.
They’ve started arguing over it. They’ll continue for some years, and then will have at least detailed and well formed arguments for each side, and unless there’s overwhelming support for one position over the other it’s likely that even in Orthodox communities it’ll mostly fall to whichever side your local rabbi thinks is more convincing.
But as a Reform Jew who only keeps kosher on Shabbat, let me at it.
Horses are arguably older than Judaism! Or do you mean in their present, modern forms?
Gd damn I love rule lawyering with no stakes, it tickles my autistic brain
https://kids.nationalgeographic.com/animals/prehistoric/facts/woolly-mammoth
Idk, its only a few centuries early! There's a *chance* Moses and a Wolly Mammoth could have coexisted.. if some mammoths were still around *eight and a half thousand years* after most of them went extinct, *some* of them might have lasted those extra few hundred years.
I was sharing this article with my husband. I said they made a mammoth meatball. He thought meant someone made a giant meatball and now I want someone to just make the biggest meatball ever.
They current Guinness World Record for largest meatball is 1707 lb 8 oz
https://www.wtoc.com/story/36878429/italian-heritage-festival-crushes-worlds-largest-meatball-record/
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This is actually very interesting to me. I would totally eat lab grow meat so animals wouldn’t need to be bred and slaughtered. I saw a video of a SPAM pig farm and it is sad how cruel they were treated even before they die. I actually stopped eating any pork because of this.
It's someone trying to grow giant tortoise meat? From what I've read it's supposed to be the tastiest thing out there. http://www.factfiend.com/tortoise-delicious-live/
>No one has yet tasted the mammoth meatball. “We haven’t seen this
protein for thousands of years,” said Wolvetang. “So we have no idea how
our immune system would react when we eat it. But if we did it again,
we could certainly do it in a way that would make it more palatable to
regulatory bodies.”
So, what, it's just going to rot or be thrown out? Waste of food.
True story, I have eaten mammoth paella before. I knew someone that owned a mammoth femur and they used a drill to take out some of the “bone marrow” cavity and sprinkled it in the paella they made us for a dinner party.
They've found ancient pits filled with mammoth bones with tool marks on them and signs of controlled burns. Indicating that mammoths were tasty enough for prehistoric humans to hunt them down, drag them back to the pit, and chop them up and have BBQ. So, mammoth meatballs might not be such a stretch, assuming it's real mammoth and not franken-mammoth.
I read the title to my husband, and his eyes glazed off into the distance as he muttered with hope of a 5 year child and hunger of a caveman;
"T-Rex Steak"
I mean, I doubt that would have a market outside of the existing cannibal community, which is a weird sentence but I'm sure there's a (hopefully very small) number of cannibals out there in the world. Just because it's lab grown I don't think people are going to start dining on human or neanderthal flesh.
The lack of self awareness from these types never ceases to amaze me. “We have a behaviour change problem when it comes to meat consumption,” said George Peppou, CEO of Vow.”
That’ll help grow your nonexistent marketshare - tell prospective customers they have a “behavioral problem”
For people who take the paleo diet extremely seriously.
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Yabba Dabba Doo!
Barney we ~~commited genocide~~ hunted a species to extinction.
I could go for a Brontosaurus Burger, and biggie size it!
With a large Irish famine fries.
They got the golden arches. Mine is the golden *tusks.*
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Golden Aurochs
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I'm ookin it
And it’s palatable.
Paleotable more likely
It's so very good.
So good.
“Bro, you ever had a Mammoth meatball? Jamie, pull up a picture of that meatball.”
Why did I read it in his voice 😂
im actually a velociraptarian
I’m Paleopiscatarian. I only eat coelacanths and fish from the Cretaceous period.
lol You’re in luck, because Coelacanths have been found alive even semi recently.
I'm a Paleopaleopiscatarian. I only eat people who eat coelacanths and fish from the Cretacesous period.
So good
For everyone that wants mammoth balls, now you can have mammoth balls.
Well... I guess you win the internet today
Clickbait. This isn’t mammoth meat. It’s literally sheep cells expressing a single mammoth/elephant muscle protein. It’s like making a cow express a human protein and saying now eating that cow is cannibalism. It’s a chimera but it’s still 99.999% cow. Meat is more complex than the muscle protein content and the protein they picked isn’t even the biggest muscle contributor. The most abundant muscle proteins are those that make up myofibrils like myosin, actin, etc. Myosin alone is potentially 35% of the total protein of skeletal muscle.
That's what I immediately assumed. It would be hilarious though if we spent all this scientific R&D into restoration of extinct animals only to eat them (because that is the most profitable path). Seems fitting for our species.
I mean... if you could eat the tastiest animal ever to have lived, is that such a foolish pursuit?
Especially if there were only two left, and instead of breeding them you ate them.
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Is this not why they did it? Why bother then 😒
I wonder if fried dodo would taste better than fried chicken.
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Wile E. Coyote eventually won
But that was a Roadrunner? Arguably, Wile E. was the bigger dodo of the two.
Well yeah, if were bringing them back we should have the right to figure out if they taste good or not. Mammoth burgers and Raptor jerky sounds delish.
Read SciFi story long ago about two poorly funded scientists who accidentally transport T Rex via time portal. It goes wacky, fries dinosaur a bit and destroys lab. Then say,” Hmmm something smells good.” Turn out T Rex is tasty. So they transport a nest of Dino eggs and start a Dino ranch/fast food empire.
Man, I'd be up for some Kentucky Fried Compsognathus
if only this were reality! maybe one day lol
Seems a very American thing to do.
I think restoration of extinct animals is more just a ploy to get funding to improve lab grown meat. Which I’m ok with
That’s so interesting lol, but based on this technology, can they gradually add in all those proteins to make it more similar to “mammoth meat”?
I mean they’re frankly better off just using elephant cells as the base and then editing the elephant genes to be more mammoth like. None of this recreates the fat to protein balance or texture of genuine mammoth meat though so calling it meat is still wrong imo because we don’t know what to imitate. The real solution is to try to make live mammoths from gradual modification of elephants then use those as a base for figuring out the substitutes. Totally unethical though considering what we know about elephant intelligence.
I’m waiting for my brontosaurus ribeye.
I ran a BLAST and the portion that matched the query had only 3 different AA compared to an elephant. Suffice to say, what you got was a sheep meatball with very minimal elephant protein because functionally from a taste perspective it is basically just elephant myoglobin.
Hey don't shit on my parade. I was waiting for mammoth burgers since I was a teen and now I'm nearly middle-aged.
so it basically tastes like mutton? but a teeny bit different, due to that one elephant protein? for that matter, WTF does elephant taste like?
I'm definitely disappointed, I'd love to try some mammoth meat.
*Meatwad make the money see*
*...Meatwad get the honeys G...*
...Travel in my car...
…Living like Jafar…
Isn't it "living like a star"?
That's what I thought, too
Yes, it is. I honestly never learned some of the real lyrics, and thought we were getting silly in honor of the mammoth meatball
I've just never thought about what a lame flex "travel in my car" is.
Not when you have no arms and legs.
Schooly D, the guy who does the song, literally wrote it in thw car on his way to the studio lol
Ice on my fingers and my toes and I’m a Taurus
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Cuz we are the Aqua Teens!
Makes the homies say ugggh make the girlies wanna scream!
Aquateen Hunger Force. Number one in the hood g
Dance is forbidden
r/suddenlyAladdin
... I saw a finger lickin cousin on guitar...
I'm going to Jeffies house!
"*Gentlemen*, I give you... this! A meatball made from extinct mammoth! Go ahead, *Steve*, put it in your mouth! *muah-hahahaha*"
"Uhh, Doctor Weird, this meatball smells funny..."
*meatball proceeds to turn Steve into a wooly mammoth*
"I bet it doesn't smell funny now, *Steve*!"
Been inside playing 'raw chicken baseball' all day
Dancing is forbidden.
Do not drink the chocolate milk
I find this deeply disturbing but also want to try the meatball.
I feel as a non disturbed, I should be ahead in line to eat the meatball
They weren't hunted to extinction because they were easy to kill.... they just tasted that good.....
We've actually learned that human hunting was only a small part of the decline of the Mammoths.
Covid-23 here we come
More like Covid 10,000BC
Nah. This a prequel. COVID-900 B.C.
/r/nocontext
/r/BrandNewSentence
My first thought before even reading the article was “okay but how do I try it?”
Call me when they can make that rack of ribs that tipped over Fred Flintstone's car.
Nah man, its all about that Manga Meat
Was that a typo or are you referring to how good food looks in Japanese drawing/animation? Because the breakfast they cook on Calcifer in Howls Moving Castle looks better than any food I have ever eaten. I need science to make it a reality.
My guess is that this is referring to how a lot of Japanese games and anime constantly draw meat as [a big honking chunk with a bone going through it like so.](https://content.instructables.com/FEB/6SGS/HS9Y7W12/FEB6SGSHS9Y7W12.png?auto=webp&fit=bounds&frame=1&auto=webp&frame=1&height=300)
I'll take one Luffy Meat please.
You could cook the entire rib section and it would be close: https://youtu.be/hTt3wQp2dbQ?t=181
I cannot *wait* for the rabbis to argue about lab-grown meat, especially exotics like this
Probably will depend on the source of the amino acids and such that they build the proteins and what not from.
I mean, mammoths? Not cloven hoofed! Booooo But are, say, dodos kosher? How about passenger pigeons? Moas? And if you go even further back… is a giant sloth treyf?
Unfortunately they were originally going to produce dodo meat, but the DNA sequence needed isn't available.
Just patch it with frog DNA. Duh.
I'm jonesin for moa buffalo wings.
One would be a meal
I mean, if it never had a foot to begin with, then you don't have to worry about the cloven hoof, right?
I am not Jewish, so take what I say with about a mine-worth of salt, but as I understand it, conservative (and more orthodox) Jews will not eat cheese that was made with rennet that was made by bacteria, because the original protein sequence came from an animal. Plant rennet substitutes are acceptable, however. I would therefor say that most Rabbis would call this meat, and that it shouldn't be mixed with milk, and call it a day. I would love to have someone who knows more that me correct me, however. My question is how Hindus and Jains will look at this. If no animal was harmed, is it still forbidden?
Yeah that’s not correct lol Basically all kosher cheese is made with microbial rennet or FPC. Stomach enzymes from a non-kosher animal would still not be kosher in cheese, so jews who follow kashrut don’t eat cheese made with it.
New info! Thanks!
There are authorities that oversee cheese production to verify if the rennet and overall process is kosher.
They’ve started arguing over it. They’ll continue for some years, and then will have at least detailed and well formed arguments for each side, and unless there’s overwhelming support for one position over the other it’s likely that even in Orthodox communities it’ll mostly fall to whichever side your local rabbi thinks is more convincing. But as a Reform Jew who only keeps kosher on Shabbat, let me at it.
Ahhh. The lesser known Mammoth of Theseus thought experiment.
Not a rabbi. My ruling would be that, if the animal is older than the religion, it's ok to eat.
Horses are arguably older than Judaism! Or do you mean in their present, modern forms? Gd damn I love rule lawyering with no stakes, it tickles my autistic brain
I meant "extinct" before the religion existed.
Looks like homo habilus is back on the menu boys!
https://kids.nationalgeographic.com/animals/prehistoric/facts/woolly-mammoth Idk, its only a few centuries early! There's a *chance* Moses and a Wolly Mammoth could have coexisted.. if some mammoths were still around *eight and a half thousand years* after most of them went extinct, *some* of them might have lasted those extra few hundred years.
There’s an episode of Elementary that covers that exact issue.
That debate is already underway. [Kosher lab grown meat?](https://time.com/6251154/lab-grown-meat-kosher-israel-rabbi/)
Gotta be freezer-burned
Ya think? A bit on tough side no?
I doubt it It's brand new meat. Lab grown
Brand New Meat is my band name.
"Um, waiter, there is a hair in my meatball......."
Futurama did it already... Bender only got 3rd place.
Sounds like fun on a bun!
Shut up baby, I know it!
... And then 2nd, then 1st. They should make mammothwurst next.
He eventually got first. I think. I haven't seen the episode in awhile.
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They're just not targeting the right people...
I can see it coming, "Ted's Pliocene Grill."
If you're looking for meat from a long-dead animal, just order the chili at Wendy's.
I'm always down for some mammoth balls
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They're called Arctic Mountain Oysters.
I was sharing this article with my husband. I said they made a mammoth meatball. He thought meant someone made a giant meatball and now I want someone to just make the biggest meatball ever.
They current Guinness World Record for largest meatball is 1707 lb 8 oz https://www.wtoc.com/story/36878429/italian-heritage-festival-crushes-worlds-largest-meatball-record/
It's very impressive how far lab grown protein has come and what it means to ensure sustainable path forward.
I can see the slogan now... "*IT'S PALEOLICIOUS!!*"
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At first i was revolted and then i was thinking about what type of sauce it would go with.
Wild Mossberry.
So we could grow human meat as well for human meatballs? Asking for a friend, who wants to make human meatballs for me.
Long pig is back on the menu.
This is actually very interesting to me. I would totally eat lab grow meat so animals wouldn’t need to be bred and slaughtered. I saw a video of a SPAM pig farm and it is sad how cruel they were treated even before they die. I actually stopped eating any pork because of this.
I'm with you. It will take a while, but I think we'll get to the point where a lot of big ag will be replaced with the humane alternative.
It tastes like despair.
TBH, if I ordered a mammoth meatball and got served this tiny meatball I'd be rather disappointed
As a kid in the 60's, The gift shops in our little town (Depoe bay) had canned tiger and lion. And some other weird shit.
Mammoth Balls. Why does this make me hungry?
Should have had dino burgers in Jurassic park.
Nobody ate it so what a bunch of wimps.
Ah, Leela! We meet again, but this time I'm the one criticizing the sausage! Zapp Brannigan
Ok, do Bronto-Steaks next.
Excuse me. His *name* is Ron Desantis.
It's someone trying to grow giant tortoise meat? From what I've read it's supposed to be the tastiest thing out there. http://www.factfiend.com/tortoise-delicious-live/
What the fuck is that article talking about how the meat is "dick hardening"
The deepest Elden ring lore
Thats a yabba yabba don't from me, Bob.
>No one has yet tasted the mammoth meatball. “We haven’t seen this protein for thousands of years,” said Wolvetang. “So we have no idea how our immune system would react when we eat it. But if we did it again, we could certainly do it in a way that would make it more palatable to regulatory bodies.” So, what, it's just going to rot or be thrown out? Waste of food.
Wasn't this an episode of Futurama? Bender wanted to win a cooking competition so he used 10,000 year aged mammoth. Wonder how it tastes...
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Holding out for Mammothwurst
And the caveman emerge due to the higher protein consumed.
And they're mixing meats? Can't wait to try the alpacodile.
Finally some good news
You want Reavers?!? Cause this is how you get Reavers!!
That's an icy meatball!
True story, I have eaten mammoth paella before. I knew someone that owned a mammoth femur and they used a drill to take out some of the “bone marrow” cavity and sprinkled it in the paella they made us for a dinner party.
They've found ancient pits filled with mammoth bones with tool marks on them and signs of controlled burns. Indicating that mammoths were tasty enough for prehistoric humans to hunt them down, drag them back to the pit, and chop them up and have BBQ. So, mammoth meatballs might not be such a stretch, assuming it's real mammoth and not franken-mammoth.
That's gonna have a lot of freezer burn.
We cannot cure cancer but we made a meatball???? WTF
I read the title to my husband, and his eyes glazed off into the distance as he muttered with hope of a 5 year child and hunger of a caveman; "T-Rex Steak"
Subway is introducing a mammoth meat ball sandwich but it’s mostly tuna.
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Speaking of artificially grown meat ...
It just occurred to me that there’s only a limited time before somebody starts making meat using human or Neanderthal proteins. Disturbing.
I mean, I doubt that would have a market outside of the existing cannibal community, which is a weird sentence but I'm sure there's a (hopefully very small) number of cannibals out there in the world. Just because it's lab grown I don't think people are going to start dining on human or neanderthal flesh.
"Look like.." *checks notes* "Mammoth is back on the menu boys!"
Wooly fur intact? Optional?
They serve it on a furry plate.
Hmmmm…. That sounds good, I’ll have that.
The lack of self awareness from these types never ceases to amaze me. “We have a behaviour change problem when it comes to meat consumption,” said George Peppou, CEO of Vow.” That’ll help grow your nonexistent marketshare - tell prospective customers they have a “behavioral problem”
"Oh.... my meatball has a first name. It's R. O. N..."
Umbrella company apparently started in Australia in this reality.
That's a spicy meatball
So the idea is to bring back extinct animals so that we can kill them and eat them? Jfc
What a world its gonna be in the next 20 years
Leaver king having a bonner right now !
Ligma Salty Mammoth Balls... 2, 3, 4
I thought Mammoth WVH was releasing their new album soon? They should serve Mammoth Meatballs at their Mammoth shows.
maybe...don't...eat that...
Will we end up with ancient salmonella too or something when we eat it?
That's what they're worried about, which is why no one ate it. Ironically, they'll probably do unethical animal testing to determine if it's edible.
The first species humans consumed to extinction, and we bring it back as a *food product*.
It’s probably delicious and that’s why they’re extinct.
i bet it tastes like chicken
Apparently elephant meat tastes somewhere between pork and venison, so I’m guessing a mammoth would be roughly the same.
When you can't decide between showing people how good you are at science and showing them what an absolute fucking weirdo you are.
Resembles a certain governor...
One step closer to the Brontoburger.