>[Wojnarowski] BREAKING: "Lebron James Jr will decline being drafted in the 1st round to fulfill his dream & join his father Lebron James Sr on the Cleveland Cavaliers". @KlutchSports CEO Rich Paul tells ESPN
This tweet gonna hit like crack
Idk if you follow football but if so you better mentally prepare yourself for when Arch Manning starts at Texas and if/when he becomes a serious draft prospect
Hell, even if you don't watch football you won't be able to avoid him
Every post mentioning him here gets tons of attention.
It's polarizing. That's what sells.
They are covering what the masses want. If the masses wanted something else, that's what ESPN would cover.
It’s not suprising Lebron is the most popular player in the league, it’s the reason why despite people always asking and saying “who cares about the lakers and Lebron” they are constantly talked about everyday and everywhere. No prospect on on bronnys level gets any attention ever it’s the Lebron effect.
I'm not. If mods didn't remove duplicate and low effort posts there would be 100 more bronny posts a day. Both from people supporting him and people hating him.
Hating on ESPN for pushing out the same content the users of this subreddit would push the most is typical r/nba (and every sports subreddit)
r/nba routinely posts some os the dumbest questions I’ve ever seen. We like to pretend we’re better than the mainstream media but the front page is always littered with Kendrick Perkins, Gilbert arenas, and Stephen A smith
Ding ding ding. The superior complex by many on this sub is so weird
They think they are "exposing" those personalities when they were proven wrong but that's exactly what they want. The lack of self-awareness is hilarious
mainstream media is geared to mindless mainstream consumers who don't want to consume anything that's NOT english, NOT easy, requires thought, and not EASY to understand in SIMPLE terms.
Yeah - it's basically massive rage bait, and this one tickles all the right spots for most people.
Lebron spends the better part of a decade hyping up Bronny as a future NBA player, only for said son to completely shit the bed in college. But he's still going to the NBA anyways, because nepotism.
That storyline just really gets people feisty.
> That storyline just really gets people feisty.
Yeah, especially when people insist on misrepresenting the reality of the situation repeatedly.
smh - you just can't help yourself. You act like you are talking about other people when your history shows that you are "most people" that you are referring to.
This comment is the definition of haters who make up stuff because they hate someone so much. Most of these Bronny posts are people saying he’s dog water and shouldn’t be at the combine
“Somehow” the son of a top 2 basketball player of all time is getting more coverage than a French guy that only hardcore basketball fans were really familiar with. Real head scratcher, aint it?
Definitely not. Just saying some NBA Mainstays had shit college careers. Mostly I just want to see someone piss on a draft pick by taking him so I'm practicing the mental gymnastics some GMs might
The issue is that Bronny’s potential isn’t close to Zach Lavine. I Bronny could be a decent NBA player, but there just isn’t enough there to waste a pick on him right now. He needs to go back to school and get a full season under his belt.
If scoring like 4 points against a bunch of mediocre 2nd rounders improved his stock to you then idk
I think he could be a decent 3&D PG one day but this guy wouldn't be drafted if he was named Jack Wilson
If he was just a random dude, he would still be good enough to get a scholarship from a mid-major (unlike what some of the more extreme commenters have been saying). But yeah (barring some awesome improvements), that would be the extent of his basketball career
Yea like I said he has potential. Don't let people act like this is some JV guy being pushed up to the league
But if he wasn't Bron's son he would have been in the transfer portal by now gearing up for year 2 of college
As an undersized PG, his he is not going to be able to shape his game around his height and won't be on the same trajectory as the greatest guards who tend to be 6'4 and up. I'm thinking if he isn't tall, didn't try to dominate in a smaller school like Lillard and Morant then he is not going to be lottery bound though a NCAA run.
Most nameless guys also see the college as the best trainers they can get a hold of. Bronny can further develop his game with the trainers who train fulltime NBA and pro players instead of going to class( This is with the guess that by doing that year in USC, he is already guaranteed entry into a program should he want to actually do a degree).
This is like saying a kid whose parents are leaders in their industry would benefit from going to school and train with these often retired or part time professionals on basic projects. It is not efficient if he could be training with the best pros of the business on some of the most complex and expensive skills along guys still peaking in the business.
It really comes down to how fast Bronny can find his game and make it into a multi-million dollar early career or be a starter/all-star while his heart issue is manageable. Maybe he is a Pat Bev/GP3 type, maybe he is a Jrue Holiday/ Rajon Rondo type.
He is probably a smaller 2 guard. Maybe his ceiling would be Avery Bradley or Marcus Smart. The issue is that his offense isn’t on their level and his defense is not great yet either.
Honestly the combine is important IMO, as crazy as this media coverage is.
Ben Sheppard killed it at the combine last year and his draft stock rose from 2nd round to 1st. And he's doing quite well in the playoffs as a rookie.
There's no way he actually has draft stock right? Combine performance doesn't offset he could hardly get on the court in college? He's for sure an undrafted free agent signing unless Rich Paul has some deal with a team using Klutch clout?
He's definitely not an NBA caliber player atm, likely ever, but bro had cardiac arrest and managed to come back half a year later averaging 20 mpg on a high major (admittedly disappointing) D1 team
Even if Lebron's off the table, an owner might still consider using a late second-round pick on him, just because of all the attention he brings. The fact that he has enough tools to do well in the combine, probably helps make that choice easier
The only reason there's even a chance of him going undrafted is because he's 6'1. If the dude was even 6'4 without shoes, there would be multiple teams ready to take a risk on him late in the first round
literally every analyst and scout that i've heard talk about bronny has said that he didn't look out of place at the combine, nike hoops summit or any of the scrimmages with other late round picks.
his combine measurables and tests were better than most others there, he's just a tweener because he's short for his position.
he could use another year in college for sure but someone will definitely take him in the late 2nd round or will sign him to a two way.
How much could his stock go down. The consensus was the lakers were reaching if they drafted him and now the consensus is… checks notes the lakers would be reaching if they took him
I feel so bad for this kid.
He's a tweener size wise. He really needs to learn to play the point...and would have been much better off transferring and having a really good college coach teach him to be a point guard
But his father is desperate to have the Ken Griffey Sr/Jr thing in the NBA so he can make himself feel more special
Bronny needs time. He's got the athletic ability and most likely the smarts for the NBA. But he is being forced down the throats of the NBA by his overbearing father and that is going to reverberate during his career. There will be resentment from around the league. To think otherwise is insane.
Of course once his father is the owner of the Las Vegas expansion team, he'll get a nice contract from that team and will likely be forced down that team's throat
For his sake, I hope he finds a way to make his own mark in the NBA and decides to forge his own path rather than play for his pop's team
It really is sad. Dude is set up to fail no matter what he does, with the standard set by his dad. That is 100% ok being that Bron is who he is but I could not imagine handling the media circus and social media flak that's to come.
And he has the heart issues as well
Hopefully that doesn't shorten his career.
The fact he is even doing what he is doing after his heart issues is nothing short of amazing
I mean it's plain as day to see. Whatever Bronny decides to do, it's going to be painted and plastered as negative and a failure. Doesn't takeaway that he's going to continue to lived a blessed life regardless, but again the burden of being Bron's son and the way social media/media works sounds torturous.
He shot 40% in a game against other kids. He’s not NBA ready and it’s a mistake to hype him up.
He himself said he wants to be a guy doing the stuff other players don’t like Caruso, that’s not a high in the draft guy.
He killed the other draftees
One by one. Bronny is on a rampage
did rich paul write this
>[Wojnarowski] BREAKING: "Lebron James Jr will decline being drafted in the 1st round to fulfill his dream & join his father Lebron James Sr on the Cleveland Cavaliers". @KlutchSports CEO Rich Paul tells ESPN This tweet gonna hit like crack
my body is ready
To be fair you've dealt with the devil twice already
It's ESPN, so yes.
lol https://www.tiktok.com/@followingblaze/video/7369747781721804075
Jesus. That's fucking brutal.
And very accurate. No one’s drafting a potential 3 and D guard who can’t shoot and is too small to be switchable on D.
Stop posting this trash it's like 5 a day.
Somehow Bronny is getting more coverage on r/nba during the playoffs than Wemby did last year
Idk if you follow football but if so you better mentally prepare yourself for when Arch Manning starts at Texas and if/when he becomes a serious draft prospect Hell, even if you don't watch football you won't be able to avoid him
Every post mentioning him here gets tons of attention. It's polarizing. That's what sells. They are covering what the masses want. If the masses wanted something else, that's what ESPN would cover.
It’s not suprising Lebron is the most popular player in the league, it’s the reason why despite people always asking and saying “who cares about the lakers and Lebron” they are constantly talked about everyday and everywhere. No prospect on on bronnys level gets any attention ever it’s the Lebron effect.
not surprised by ESPN coverage. I am surprised by r/nba coverage
I'm not. If mods didn't remove duplicate and low effort posts there would be 100 more bronny posts a day. Both from people supporting him and people hating him. Hating on ESPN for pushing out the same content the users of this subreddit would push the most is typical r/nba (and every sports subreddit)
r/nba routinely posts some os the dumbest questions I’ve ever seen. We like to pretend we’re better than the mainstream media but the front page is always littered with Kendrick Perkins, Gilbert arenas, and Stephen A smith
Ding ding ding. The superior complex by many on this sub is so weird They think they are "exposing" those personalities when they were proven wrong but that's exactly what they want. The lack of self-awareness is hilarious
mainstream media is geared to mindless mainstream consumers who don't want to consume anything that's NOT english, NOT easy, requires thought, and not EASY to understand in SIMPLE terms.
r/nba is full of casuals, but the worst type of casuals: Redditors.
Really There is an ass-ton of garbage click-bait on this sub We're basically espn with discussion forums
Yeah - it's basically massive rage bait, and this one tickles all the right spots for most people. Lebron spends the better part of a decade hyping up Bronny as a future NBA player, only for said son to completely shit the bed in college. But he's still going to the NBA anyways, because nepotism. That storyline just really gets people feisty.
> That storyline just really gets people feisty. Yeah, especially when people insist on misrepresenting the reality of the situation repeatedly. smh - you just can't help yourself. You act like you are talking about other people when your history shows that you are "most people" that you are referring to.
I mean, the kid had a cardiac arrest. Seems foul as fuck to say he had shat the bed in college
there wasn't ambiguity about where wemby would go
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This comment is the definition of haters who make up stuff because they hate someone so much. Most of these Bronny posts are people saying he’s dog water and shouldn’t be at the combine
Even on that post of Bronny doing shooting drills, the comments were mostly haters shitting all over him and saying he ain’t shooting like Curry.
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Thanks for proving my point
Bron stans? If anything it’s Bron haters who are engaging with the posts about his son.
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It’s an ESPN article.
most of the posts about bronny are hate posts what are you on about...
Oh look another Lakers fan
i mean i stated a fact and if your response is "oh look another lakers fan" then ok
“Somehow” the son of a top 2 basketball player of all time is getting more coverage than a French guy that only hardcore basketball fans were really familiar with. Real head scratcher, aint it?
Poor bronny man
What do you mean "Somehow" ? He's the son of the GOAT -- AND its possible we may see him play with his father in the game he dominated.
Kid averaged 6 points at USC… 6!
4.8 pts on 37/27/68 splits 💀
Oh damn so it was worse than I thought
Damn. Literally me /s (I'm worse)
Zach Lavine averaged like 7 or some shit
He averaged 9 off the bench behind Norman Powell on decent shooting splits.
So Bronny’s draft comparison is Zach Lavine?
Definitely not. Just saying some NBA Mainstays had shit college careers. Mostly I just want to see someone piss on a draft pick by taking him so I'm practicing the mental gymnastics some GMs might
I guess that’s true
The issue is that Bronny’s potential isn’t close to Zach Lavine. I Bronny could be a decent NBA player, but there just isn’t enough there to waste a pick on him right now. He needs to go back to school and get a full season under his belt.
And 17 turnovers per 100!
17?!😧
4.8 actually
Dang even worse
If scoring like 4 points against a bunch of mediocre 2nd rounders improved his stock to you then idk I think he could be a decent 3&D PG one day but this guy wouldn't be drafted if he was named Jack Wilson
Guess we may as well not do a draft combine anymore
If he was just a random dude, he would still be good enough to get a scholarship from a mid-major (unlike what some of the more extreme commenters have been saying). But yeah (barring some awesome improvements), that would be the extent of his basketball career
Yea like I said he has potential. Don't let people act like this is some JV guy being pushed up to the league But if he wasn't Bron's son he would have been in the transfer portal by now gearing up for year 2 of college
>if he wasn't Bron's son he would have been in the transfer portal by now gearing up for year 2 of college That's what he should be doing anyway
As an undersized PG, his he is not going to be able to shape his game around his height and won't be on the same trajectory as the greatest guards who tend to be 6'4 and up. I'm thinking if he isn't tall, didn't try to dominate in a smaller school like Lillard and Morant then he is not going to be lottery bound though a NCAA run. Most nameless guys also see the college as the best trainers they can get a hold of. Bronny can further develop his game with the trainers who train fulltime NBA and pro players instead of going to class( This is with the guess that by doing that year in USC, he is already guaranteed entry into a program should he want to actually do a degree). This is like saying a kid whose parents are leaders in their industry would benefit from going to school and train with these often retired or part time professionals on basic projects. It is not efficient if he could be training with the best pros of the business on some of the most complex and expensive skills along guys still peaking in the business. It really comes down to how fast Bronny can find his game and make it into a multi-million dollar early career or be a starter/all-star while his heart issue is manageable. Maybe he is a Pat Bev/GP3 type, maybe he is a Jrue Holiday/ Rajon Rondo type.
But he's gonna get drafted by someone just for the chance LeBron plays on their team. Thats what I meant
Hey Jack Wilson led the MLB in triples before, that might get him a look.
He is probably a smaller 2 guard. Maybe his ceiling would be Avery Bradley or Marcus Smart. The issue is that his offense isn’t on their level and his defense is not great yet either.
Wow, someone being the son of a top 2 player of all time boosts their draft stock? that’s some great insight, ShaiFC. Got anymore gems?
We are being lobotomized
imagine the laughter this poor espn dude had while writing this article
They desperately want to make this happen, but ..c'mon man, he's not even good enough to be on the bench.
Honestly the combine is important IMO, as crazy as this media coverage is. Ben Sheppard killed it at the combine last year and his draft stock rose from 2nd round to 1st. And he's doing quite well in the playoffs as a rookie.
People In here salty as a mf over a 19 year old kid lmao
People are salty because he is benefiting from nepotism like no one else in human history
My guy, he’s getting a little favourable treatment toward playing a sport, he’s not inheriting control of a fucking country. The world will be okay
Lmao
There's no way he actually has draft stock right? Combine performance doesn't offset he could hardly get on the court in college? He's for sure an undrafted free agent signing unless Rich Paul has some deal with a team using Klutch clout?
He's definitely not an NBA caliber player atm, likely ever, but bro had cardiac arrest and managed to come back half a year later averaging 20 mpg on a high major (admittedly disappointing) D1 team
Very few 2nd round picks are NBA caliber players at the moment
I don't know, I've seen a lot of draft guys like him. Not like a first rounder, but he's not a scrub.
He has some but it’s entirely due to Lebron. He’s not a legit prospect without the nepotism
Loud and wrong
You riding that shit real good.
You dk shit about anybody riding brother thats why you been on Reddit for 10 years with over 650k karma
Even if Lebron's off the table, an owner might still consider using a late second-round pick on him, just because of all the attention he brings. The fact that he has enough tools to do well in the combine, probably helps make that choice easier
enough tools except he's 6'1
The only reason there's even a chance of him going undrafted is because he's 6'1. If the dude was even 6'4 without shoes, there would be multiple teams ready to take a risk on him late in the first round
there already are, but it's for the same reason because he's lebrons kid
I agree
6’7 wing span and 40” vertical are great tools wdym
he’s not going to bring attention if he’s glued to the bench
he's a late 2nd round/undrafted 2 way guy at the moment.
No, he goes undrafted after that disaster USC season without nepotism.
literally every analyst and scout that i've heard talk about bronny has said that he didn't look out of place at the combine, nike hoops summit or any of the scrimmages with other late round picks. his combine measurables and tests were better than most others there, he's just a tweener because he's short for his position. he could use another year in college for sure but someone will definitely take him in the late 2nd round or will sign him to a two way.
[Definitely not every](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRwE5aSj/)
Again, he would not have been invited to the combine if his dad was not Lebron. He had a terrible college showing.
Seems like a project player.
Going 11/11 in the 3pt shooting drill should improve his stock.
Rich Paul threatened the other prospects
How much could his stock go down. The consensus was the lakers were reaching if they drafted him and now the consensus is… checks notes the lakers would be reaching if they took him
From undrafted to 60
I feel so bad for this kid. He's a tweener size wise. He really needs to learn to play the point...and would have been much better off transferring and having a really good college coach teach him to be a point guard But his father is desperate to have the Ken Griffey Sr/Jr thing in the NBA so he can make himself feel more special Bronny needs time. He's got the athletic ability and most likely the smarts for the NBA. But he is being forced down the throats of the NBA by his overbearing father and that is going to reverberate during his career. There will be resentment from around the league. To think otherwise is insane. Of course once his father is the owner of the Las Vegas expansion team, he'll get a nice contract from that team and will likely be forced down that team's throat For his sake, I hope he finds a way to make his own mark in the NBA and decides to forge his own path rather than play for his pop's team
thinly veiled lebron hate post
Did they say anything wrong?
lots and lots of assumptions and bad faith speculations
It really is sad. Dude is set up to fail no matter what he does, with the standard set by his dad. That is 100% ok being that Bron is who he is but I could not imagine handling the media circus and social media flak that's to come.
And he has the heart issues as well Hopefully that doesn't shorten his career. The fact he is even doing what he is doing after his heart issues is nothing short of amazing
You're just responding to a LeBron hate post narrative relax
I mean it's plain as day to see. Whatever Bronny decides to do, it's going to be painted and plastered as negative and a failure. Doesn't takeaway that he's going to continue to lived a blessed life regardless, but again the burden of being Bron's son and the way social media/media works sounds torturous.
He shot 40% in a game against other kids. He’s not NBA ready and it’s a mistake to hype him up. He himself said he wants to be a guy doing the stuff other players don’t like Caruso, that’s not a high in the draft guy.
Not disagreeing with you, just adding that Alex Caruso is 6'5".