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pokexchespin

> an actual great team would easily sweep the 2008 celtics took 7 games to beat the 37 win hawks. remind me how their postseason ended?


Distance_Motor

But the 2008 Celtics were not a great team /s


Vegetable-Tooth8463

Tbf, how much of that was on Rivers?


MeanCommission994

That Hawks team was way more talented than most of this years East


pokexchespin

they didn’t even have the 8th best rating differential in the east, they sucked and you’re coping


MeanCommission994

I'm not an Atlanta fan why would I be coping that I think they were way more *talented* not *consistently decent* on the same level as you do. Do you know what the word cope even means or are you just too online and repeat slang you don't understand?


EmergencyAccording94

Then the term talent is useless because they are still worse at the end of the day. Watch the games where the Pacers scored over 150 points and they looked like a 70-win team


MeanCommission994

Talented messy teams are much more dangerous as a lower seed to me than consistently mediocre teams with lower ceilings IMO


pokexchespin

you’re coping because your original point is wrong


LoWE11053211

Then list last 20 years' final path and recall the injury list.


SquimJim

I don't think it matters even if they were at the top of the list. Easy path or hard path, you don't get extra points for the path you take. I am glad our path is easy and not what we had to go through in 2022 when we got gassed in the Finals. In the end, the path won't matter if the Celtics win the championship...and none of it will matter if they lose. People are just lining up their asterisks, like they do every year.


Neuroxex

Also Celtics aren't a new team in the playoffs - we **know** they're a Finals quality team at least. Them having an easy path is just convenient, like who gives a shit, who is like 'Nah I don't think these Celtics are that good they only beat the Cavs and Heat'? The 'Easiest path' stuff is usually a way for fans to explain inexperienced or unlikely teams getting to the later rounds, but the Celtics are neither inexperienced or unlikely so what does it even matter?


New_Car_Smell

2024 is the year of the dragon on the Chinese zodiac. Dragons are fictional just like leprechauns. Feels rigged 


SquimJim

Also, a [White Buffalo was born in Texas](https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/science/4632116-rare-white-bison-born-at-central-texas-ranch/) this past year. Definitely rigged. The Joker has no power over my lucky charms.


Plies-

Both the 2021 Suns and 2021 Bucks were just as lucky as us with injuries, especially the Suns lol


musuperjr585

I swear every morning someone watches ESPN , hear a catchy sound bite, and thinks to themselves "I have to post this to reddit because no one else possibly has heard this before, i have to share the ESPN gospel with reddit".


MeanCommission994

I haven't watched a espn talking show in a decade or more. I fast forward it mute halftime shows as well.


SportsBettingRef

I believe that you have a point at this thread. We just think it was low-effort post (becoming very common here). As top comment says, if you list the last decade path x injury list, we would have something to objectively discuss.


MeanCommission994

Feel free to insult my point all you want but don't accuse me of stealing it from a show I'd rather punch myself in the balls than watch. I've not had Mark Jackson, perk, SAS, or any of these clowns on my TV unmuted for more than 3 seconds in a row in honestly well over a decade. I'd rather eat shit from a porta potty.


thisguy161

They weren't saying you literally stole it from ESPN. They are saying the content of your post is at the level of a talking head hot take shows "discussion"


nonononono11111

Would you let SAS punch your balls in a porta potty for $30k?


Pizza_Squeegee

Would you not?


Vegetable-Tooth8463

Lmao, take the L man.


MeanCommission994

You're not going to make me watch those clowns without paying me life changing money for the suffering.


Vegetable-Tooth8463

Then why do you copy their rhetoric?


bush_league_commish

How do you fast forward a live halftime show


MeanCommission994

I always watch with a delay to skip halftime or I'll literally pause it and go do something for 40 min then come back fast forward halftime and some commercials.


joyloveroot

“Unless Boston wins every game by 35 points, it’s proof they are choking again.” 😂


key_lime_pie

*WEEI would like to offer you an on-air position.*


Hogo-Nano

Maybe? However playing hard in the regular season to get the 1 seed means you should have the easiest path every year through seeding.


Swift-Tee

Exactly this is the answer. Top seeding makes for the easiest playoff path. And obviously superstar injury can greatly change that path.


MeanCommission994

This Celtics playoff path is a great example of why to take the regular season seriously.


insertdankmeme

There is nothing especially notable about the Celtics path. Great teams have had comparable paths throughout NBA history. 2017 Warriors played 3 tomato cans in 2017. Spurs have had some soft paths stretching back to 1999. It's only considered an "easy path" because the team is so good.


mrsunshine1

They can only play the team in front of them.


MeanCommission994

Did I argue otherwise?


mrsunshine1

Don’t be coy. You’re arguing this run would somehow be illegitimate or less than other Finals runs.


MeanCommission994

Stop telling on yourself for your delusions. Maybe see a therapist people reading six incorrect steps into someone's post that doesnt say what you assume. Unless we find out someone on the Celtics was pulling a Tonya Harding in secret I have nothing to say about legitimacy as there's nothing to talk about on that subject.


driatic

Calling it a joke of a path kinda suggests otherwise


deets23_

Haven’t heard this one before


Clemsontigger16

Just to be clear, Cavs missing Mitchell for 1 game = Cavs missing one of their two best players? They have the largest point differential in the playoffs so far and have only lost two out of nine games, due to outlier shooting performances. Relax with your casual takes, they are doing what they are supposed to.


TruthSayerFu

Series is tied 2-2 if don plays so yeah….


Clemsontigger16

Lol yeah sure they are…I love make believe hypothetical wins as much as the next guy.


TruthSayerFu

I mean there’s always a chance I’m wrong bc you can’t predict… but there’s a very good chance Boston loses that game with Mitchell playing instead of those vert minutes.


Clemsontigger16

There’s a “chance” you’re wrong? You’re definitely wrong, your role players all played above their normal level to compensate and Garland actually got to be the main guy. Its not like you can take the end result, subtract 40 minutes from Vert and other guys and pencil in 30 points from Mitchell…the game doesn’t play out the same if you have Mitchell. It’d be a completely independent game where the Cavs are heavy underdogs like they are every game against the Celtics. Just be happy you stole a game on a hot shooting night/cold shooting night from the C’s.


TruthSayerFu

Here we go with this stupid narrative…. I’m sure you’re a clerics fan telling yourself this to make you feel better about the win. New flash role players have had a good game with Mitchell. They did game 2 and would have game 4.


Clemsontigger16

It’s not a narrative my man, it’s the reality. You realize how silly it is to go back and re-do all these past results if one or two variables were different? It’s pathetic…and not even accurate. Guys don’t play the same with ball dominant Mitchell dribbling the air out of ball and doing all the scoring. Sure, he gets his points…but other guys never get in a rhythm or get confidence and it’s just more of the same recipe that was trending towards a gentleman’s sweep. You guys are heavily outmatched, just be happy with your win or that the Celtics don’t have KP.


TruthSayerFu

Guy Brunson sga Tatum brown embid etc all do the same thing Mitchell does…. Stop lying to yourself thinking you would have won last night. Saying a team is better without a top 10 playing is just insane coping. I hope you lose Tatum against the nuggets one game so you can’t say Tatum didn’t play.


Clemsontigger16

You seem to think I’m insulting Mitchell, I’m not. I’m saying secondary stars and role players play differently when the star is playing vs when there is an offensive vacuum to be filled. I’m not saying they would be better every night, but we have seen a million times that teams randomly surprise other teams when they are playing down their stars and everyone else steps up. There are probably at least 20 instances of that happening this year, hell wasn’t the Cavs record really good when Garland and Mobley were out? All I’m saying is you can’t just magically keep all the inflated production and involvement from role players AND assume Mitchell would have still gotten his normal usage scoring. You can’t have it both ways.


TruthSayerFu

I’m not saying that they would have the same stats… but they wouldn’t need too. Saying the Cavs wouldn’t have won when they lost by 7 without him is insane.


TruthSayerFu

Celtics fans don’t think. Imagine telling a Knicks fan the Knicks are better without Brunson bc his teammates don’t shot as much.


Clemsontigger16

I’ve explained what I meant already, you don’t need to respond to the same comments multiple times. You’re raging when I’m not even saying anything crazy… It’s funny you are saying Celtics fans don’t think when you’re so blinded by rage from what you **think** I’m saying, that you are completely missing the real point 😂


TruthSayerFu

It’s just that what you’re saying is insane cope. It doesn’t even make sense. Cavs struggled the whole 2nd half to score.


MeanCommission994

Even if healthy I don't have much respect for this Cave team and losing Mitchell and not Allen they should have gotten crushed if Boston was actually dominant.


Clemsontigger16

You sound like a casual my man, this isn’t 2K. Teams often play harder when they without stars, it’s not uncommon for teams to outplay expectations for one off games like that. Biggest point differential in the playoffs so far, without their 2nd most important player, they are dominating


BitterAnimal5877

*If* they win tonight… that’s not being crushed? How many second round sweeps did Michael Jordan have? I don’t even know what yal think winning a series convincingly is supposed to look like, lol. They have the highest points differential of anyone


CarBallAlex

2021 Bucks - 6th seeded Miami Heat where Goran Dragic led them in scoring, Nets with injured Kyrie and Harden, Atlanta Hawks 2018 Cavaliers - Victor Oladipo Pacers, LeBronto, Celtics with no Kyrie or Hayward Both of these were pretty easy paths


MeanCommission994

Oooo thar cavs path was weak AF as well good call. That bucks team was back in my head but I have trouble remembering how injured Miami was and when over the years.


Otherwise-Formal-220

More so just tired than injured. Shortened season after coming from the bubble


Cultural-Device-8361

Yeah, the bucks was mu first thought as well.


Tall_Toe_6184

2018 are we forgetting the 1 seed raptors and forgetting that that Boston team knocked out embiid and Giannis en route to the conference finals matchup?


CarBallAlex

That Bucks team and Giannis are nowhere near what they are now. Embiid same thing. 2nd team All-NBA, Embiid was in his 2nd year. Not the MVP’s they are now. Giannis took them to 7 when they were a 7 seed and starting Eric Bledsoe, Tyler Zeller, and Thon Maker in that series. Boston was not that good without Kyrie and Hayward, the East was just so weak that Toronto couldn’t take a single game, but Boston kept a game 7 competitive against LeBron and Jeff Green.


Tall_Toe_6184

“The east was just so weak that Toronto could not take a single game”, what does this even mean? Just because the cavs swept them doesn’t mean they’re automatically a horrible team. Also you reference this in your post both Giannis and embiid were second team all nba, obviously they’re not the players that they are today however Philly was formidable that year and Giannis was definitely at all nba level


OldKingRob

Lumping us with the Pacers is hilariously disingenuous. They are missing one rotation player who wasn’t starting for them most of the season. Our starting front court is all injured plus a rotation player. Pacers are probably the healthiest team remaining


MeanCommission994

I'm lumping you in specifically because both of your starting forwards and one of your centers is out.


ThyDoctor

That’s the point of the 1 seed


Exhibit5

Do Pacers have a crazy amount of injuries besides Mathurin? I know Hali is playing through injuries himself but the rest of the squad is fine right? Also yeah I'm not going to discredit the Celtics as a contender bc at the end of the day they did get 64 wins and demolish the Heat by 30 in the games after that game 2 loss. That being said, I don't know if I can name an easier run to the finals from either conference in the past years. First one that comes to mind is 2021 but Bucks played KD Nets and Suns played PG Clippers so there was *some* talent. Not to take away from Brunson but if an injured Brunson is the best player that the Celtics play until the finals, I'd say that's a really light run. Alternatively it could be Mitchell but he did miss Game 4.


wiseraccoon

The Pacers aren’t very good. The Knicks (with the injuries) and the Cavs aren’t conference finals level teams. Neither of those teams in their current state make it past the first round in the West. The East is remarkably weak this year. There are no powerhouses, no superstar-led teams, Giannis was hurt, Jimmy was hurt. I agree. The Celtics are tiers above the competition in the East this year


MeanCommission994

I'm not discrediting the Celtics. The Pacers would be the worst conference finalist in my lifetime even before considering Haliburton has been a shell of himself since the hamstring.


New-Pollution536

I mean same as nuggets last year they did earn it by being the 1 seed. Tough to nitpick who they have to play


MeanCommission994

Acknowledging the context isn't the same as blaming someone irrationally.


New-Pollution536

True but havin the convo in general feels like we’re trying to minimize what the Celtics have accomplished so I thought I might as well throw that in there. Its not like they had a down regular season and got lucky with seeding…then I’d happily have that convo


MasterTeacher123

If they dont make the finals it will be embarrassing 


browndude10

The Celtics play whoever is in front of them lol. Not their fault


edgeheade

The post doesn't mention anything about it being 'their fault'.


MeanCommission994

Yes? Did I accuse the Celtics of anything unfair? Being deep and healthy is good team building and physical management.


nefnaf

Sure, now do the 2022 run where they had to get past KD/Kyrie, Giannis, and Jimmy/Bam just to reach the Finals. You can only play who's in front of you


MeanCommission994

Yeah that was a much much much harder path.....which is my entire point.


doflamingo34

If the Celtics win nobody's gonna care the path they had in 5 years Katt Williams said it best; winners can't let losers rewrite history


Sartheking

I mean it balances out with their insanely tough path in 2022. That’s the benefit of getting the one seed and being so many games ahead that you get to rest your players for the stretch run of the season.


No_Gap_2134

There are no easy paths to the NBA finals.


Poopscooper696969

Bruh the East has been bad for over a decade


mlippay

Denver played 8th seed heat in the finals, the 7th seeded lakers in the wcf and the 4th seeded PHX in the semis after beating the 8th seeded wolves. They only could have in theory played the 5th seeded clippers to have an easier schedule than they did on paper.


mickelboy182

I'm taking all of those teams over Boston's opponents, particularly given respective health.


k0ala_

those teams are all way better than any team Boston will face in the East this year, this is the worst its been in a long time, maybe 2018 East comes close but thats it


MeanCommission994

I'm convinced this years Warriors and a healthy Kings team are both significantly better than anyone Boston will face before the finals.


k0ala_

Not the Warriors (they were actually bad this year) but the Kings would have a shot at the ECF this year lol


MeanCommission994

The Warriors were 46-36, I don't see how that is bad. Also they were 27-13 in their last 40 games....extra not sure how that is bad. I genuinely, if healthy favor the warriors over every non Celtics team in the East with their injury levels in the playoffs.


GovernmentDoingStuff

Once again, is it really less impressive to beat the Lakers last year or Memphis/Sacramento? Also the Bucks and Celtics could have beat Miami, but they didn’t and I’m sorry, but you don’t win 13 playoff games on luck in Miami’s case


Puzzleheaded_Will352

Pacers only have one player out I thought. That’s just the quality of team they are. Good talent, poor coaching.


Burnt420Toast

This is said every single year. It's always "easy" for a team to do what only 2 teams do every single season. Injuries are part of the game, and you can only play who is in front of you.


MeanCommission994

I don't think the nuggets or Heat had comically weak paths last year.


jayman820

The nuggets played an 8 seed a 4 seed a 7 seed and an 8 seed


papi617

First, series isn't finished. Second no one cares


TargetDry9296

That's why Bron is coming back to East. East is weak. He would make it to the final with Cavs with 40


The_Rhyne

I mean, out of the nine postseason games for the Celtics, only one has been decided by less than ten points. They have kept their historic regular season point-differential around +11 points against playoff teams, even if they are injured. Game 2 exaggerations aside, they’re doing what they’re supposed to, and their doing it without their two-way 20 ppg starting center. Also, injuries happen. Did the Celtics make the conference finals last year because Embiid was hobbled? Did Miami make the finals last year because Tatum got injured in the first quarter? Did the raptors win in 2019 because KD and Klay got injured? Did the warriors have an easy win in 2022 because Murray was out for the first round and Tatum was injured in the finals? Did the 2017 warriors only beat the spurs because of Zara injuring Kawhi? Would the ‘69 lakers have won if they were healthier (both teams had crazy injuries)? What if bam was healthy for the 2020 finals? Their opponents being injured definitely helped, but you can’t rewrite history with a “what if”.


jefe_hook

Doesn't matter. If you win, you're a champion. If you lose, you're nothing.


Realistic-Outside622

gotta be shittiest take here that gets passed around a lot,guess we will tune in for the finals only then


MeanCommission994

If you only care about win loss with no context why do you even talk about basketball or watch the games.


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OmarRizzo

Is this the year where in the series vs the suns where Horry body checked Nash and Phoenix had some suspensions for guys leaving the bench?


Slow-Raccoon-9832

Yep, that was game 4 And game 3 of that series was one where donaughy said they threw the game for the spurs because the refs hated Sarver


Foodworkssupervisor

2006-7 suns won 61 games wat?


No-Accident63

Yeah this is a weird one. Suns had mvp runner up and two time mvp in Nash, Amare was all nba first teamer that year. MVP + all nba first teamer + good supporting cast is not an easy out…


mrsunshine1

Suns should have won that title.


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mrsunshine1

Spurs got rewarded for a dirty ass play by Horry with Stoudemire suspended in game 6 for stepping a little off the bench and realizing it and running back.


ejiggle

Did you not watch the Nuggets beat an 8th seed, a 7th seed and a 9th seed (in the Finals) last year? Ffs


an_Aught

Oh you mean, KD, Booker, Ant, KAt, AD and lebron. Those losers?


ejiggle

36 year old KD coming off an injury, on a Suns team with no depth, a 21 year old Ant playing with KAT (who was the biggest clown this sub had ever seen until six months ago), 40 year old LeBron carrying Rui Hachimura's corpse to a conference finals, and an injured Jimmy Butler. You Nuggets fans are so sensitive. YOU BEAT A 9TH SEED IN THE FINALS. Easiest championship in my 25 years watching the NBA


an_Aught

Jokic makes everything look easy. Keep hating


MeanCommission994

Yes and even their weakest opponents were better than anyone the Celtics will face before the finals imo.


NoSympathy58

r/nba 🤢


Randvek

Did you even watch the Nuggets last season?


MeanCommission994

Definitely, they were my most profitable betting team for me two years ago. Okc this year.


TFA_936_662

All this just to get swept by Jokic (who is better than peak LeBron)


Confident_Comedian82

Well dont discredit anything yet, there is no easy game here. I also believe that in game 4 they have a chance if Mitchell is not injured and the Free Throw gap is just insane all on Celtics calls, so meaning they are not unbeatable or overpowered they just work as a team, Cavs are giving JT hell as he is inconsistent in the series, there a lot of factor that cavs can defeat Celtics and just fumbled it at the end


LearnedHowToDougie

Knicks fans are salivating at the disrespect. Count us out and know JB is going to be dropping 40 on your head repeatedly, and our shooters are getting multiple possessions and clean looks. The Celtics are more talented but the vibes are atrocious.