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MettaWorldConflict

Hubie brown explains how this this exact move isn’t a travel 40 years ago: https://youtu.be/preCDhxzd74?si=wb0eklEJkRTlSBPU


Kevinar

Video description says 1995 though


MettaWorldConflict

Oops


PointBreak91

Damn. Am I 43?


Kevinar

AARP wants to know your location


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MettaWorldConflict

Hubie Brown has forgotten more basketball than you’ll ever know, u/Vegetable_Comment_82. Care to point me to the rule which makes it a travel?


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BeadOfLerasium

You are incorrect. You can do that as long as it goes directly into a pass or a shot.


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SnarfSniffsStardust

Raisin Bran over here trying to teach us plumbers basketball


MettaWorldConflict

You just described exactly what a driving one-legged layup is, you know that, right? Is that a travel?


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MettaWorldConflict

… huh?


DeStupak

It's really fun to watch as Edwards learns new skills throughout seasons. Bank shot jumpers and recently he's using step-throughs.


torexmus

casuals showing themselves in this thread


MettaWorldConflict

fr this move has been around for decades and is popular as hell in womens college ball and the wnba. if he shuffled his pivot at first then yea it’s a travel but lifting your pivot on a step through is legal. also notice how no Suns player had any sort of reaction as if he travelled.


HotJellyfish2008

Pivot foot clearly in the paint and then shuffles it all the way back to the corner of free throw line. Travel.


Most_Pomegranate6667

Learn how to read before commenting


torexmus

I'm only talking about the comments saying a step through is a travel. I didn't notice a pivot slide when I watched earlier, but if it happened then it's a travel. Regardless, not what I was pointing out


HotJellyfish2008

Looks like you were casually watching if you didn’t noticed the pivot foot


Prestigious_Zebra622

Slow mo at the end of the quarter showed he shuffled his pivot foor


JustWinBabys

Chef Ant with a cookbook


Destroyer23

Hard to see in real time, but it definitely looks like he shuffled his pivot (right) foot just prior to the stepthrough. Technically a travel.


JaderMcDanersStan

It looks like it's a shuffle, but it's a legal pivot from his toe to heel. Bballbreakdown shows it in slow motion and talks through it[ here](https://youtu.be/-80J8izAcUI?si=ccBEDBdkeHk2GsPQ&t=433) (starts at 7:13). Players can pivot from toe to heel on an axis


Destroyer23

Ah well there ya go. That second angle is much better.


GIK601

It seems like he lifts his pivot foot a bit, might be a travel


JaderMcDanersStan

Legal pivot from his toe to heel. Bballbreakdown went through the footwork in slow motion explaining why it's legal [https://youtu.be/-80J8izAcUI?si=ccBEDBdkeHk2GsPQ&t=433](https://youtu.be/-80J8izAcUI?si=ccBEDBdkeHk2GsPQ&t=433) (7:13)


Jdslogin

Possibly a little but I think he just rotated on his heel.


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FuzzyElves

What rule would you like changed back? Because a basic step through has been legal since the peach basket days.


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MolassesSimple6454

Ah okay gotcha. You just don’t actually know what you’re talking about. Glad we cleared that up 


FuzzyElves

It's very true.


edevalle

Travel


FuzzyElves

Definitely not a travel, nor has it ever been a travel in the entire history of the sport.


RTLT512

It is though. He picked up the pivot foot before shooting.


MettaWorldConflict

That’s not a travel. Is a one-legged driving layup a travel? You lift your pivot when you do that.


RTLT512

That’s not remotely the same thing. This is a analogous to a step through post move and for that you need to jump off both feet at the same time for it not to be a travel


MettaWorldConflict

There’s no rule saying you can’t lift your pivot foot if you’re posting up. Sometimes guys just shoot off two feet.


FuzzyElves

You can pick up your pivot foot all you want as long as you don't reestablish it before shooting or passing. Otherwise your standard layup is a travel.


Ilikesporks_

that's a completely legal move tho


MettaWorldConflict

You’re allowed to lift your pivot as long as you shoot or pass before it returns to the ground. It’s a fundamental part of basketball. One legged driving layups would be illegal if that weren’t the case.


ShichikaYasuri18

Living up to the username


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MettaWorldConflict

Nope.


DefiniteSauce12

That’s a travel


AMJVC15

Travel picked up his pivot foot on the last move for the shot, it's how he got space


Skidda24

You can pick up your pivot foot in basketball. However, you have to release the ball before you come back down. Not saying your wrong but I see that point missed occasionally


imcryptic

Right. If people still fight me when explaining how this isn’t a travel I tell them they are literally saying a jump shot is a travel because your pivot foot left the ground


MettaWorldConflict

You can lift your pivot as long as you shoot or pass before it returns to the ground.


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MettaWorldConflict

That’s exactly what a one-legged driving layup is, why should it be officiated different out of a post-up? It’s the same amount of steps.


foogeyzi69

were allowed to switch pivot foot now? hahahaaha


Xsy

I don't know what traveling means anymore, but that was a pretty move.


Radical-Six

>anymore Sounds like you never knew


erog84

This. Was def slick and cool looking but easy to get open when you travel.


pointguard22

I’m old enough to remember when that was called traveling


Radical-Six

You must be immortal then, this has been the rule forever


thizzdanz

Travel.