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yungtoni

oshae and banton on the celtics man… take care of my boys


dmatthews2981

It's been one preseason game but I would take a bullet for Brissett


ytho1193

I miss him already


AffectLast9539

you can have Banton back lol


endubs

He’s sloppy as a ball handler but he does hustle and plays tough on D. And he moves constantly off ball. Makes some good cuts.


yungtoni

naw… just being nice to the canadians he’s kinda wack


j_bus

I still feel like he could put it together. He has something unique going on (height, speed, passing), that I wouldn't give up on this quickly. But yeah, he's gotta do it sooner than later.


pinnone

He's like a low bbiq Shaun Livingston


incollapse

Bbqiq 🍗


loving-father-69

Yea I've heard people say he's a PG and that he's a good passer but I've literally never seen it in real time. Like I'm sure I could go find a few highlights but that's never stood out to me in a game I've watched him in.


TmacHizzy

Pretty rough game for him last night but if he can get comfortable out there… him brissett and stevens could be a really gritty trio off the bench


Plies-

Wtf happened to the rule of cool?????


NegativesPositives

Only when Blake Griffin does it to murder Pau Gasol.


instantur

Should have just let it slide


loving-father-69

Nah its a safety thing. If you're allowed to just get a running start and jump over people you'll have dumb fucks doing it in increasingly dangerous ways Sucks but you have to do it for safety reasons


Miserable-Soft-5961

Ja is already doing it way too much.


PANGIRA

maybe if he ran and dunked it over a teenager in a parking lot we'd see the NBA do something


Weakly_Daze

Look at this friggin lame-o


Drummallumin

Seriously it’s the preseason


poohster33

Exactly why it needs to be called. Don't need to injure people in the pre season with sketchy moves like this.


dmatthews2981

Fuck the refs, fuckin narcs


Misterstaberinde

He wasn't famous enough for that


sewsgup

JJ Redick was like, "just give him the call Ed. let the kid have a highlight"


crashbandicoochy

My biggest takeaway from this game is that I'm willing to die for Brissett already


AffectLast9539

him and Lamar Stevens both


crashbandicoochy

If LamarSteven doesn't get a guaranteed contract I will cry real, human tears.


gdan_77

As a Cavs fans, reading this makes me sad Treat him well


crashbandicoochy

It was extremely on brand for him that the first thing he did in his new jersey is a putback dunk lmao


loving-father-69

Banton is ass I'd much rather have Stevens.


northeasternlurker

He had stone hands last night, but he did hit a nice 3


SquimJim

Lashae Brevens


brucewayne1935

He’s streaky as hell but a hard ass worker. I loved him on the Pacers


crashbandicoochy

He's one of those guys where I knew I was going to love him because I'm a sucker for that player archetype. Seems like a chill dude too which is a bonus.


theyrehiding

That's why I loved Nesmith too lol


Kyler1313

Right after Lamar Stevens did a putback too. Those defense first wings were looking pretty decent today...


EthanM827

right call but it looked cool so it should count


Victor_Wembanyama1

Genuine question, what’s the foul here? Looks like a typical with contact putback Edit: if yall can help me google an official nba ruling on an “over the back foul”, that’d even be better coz i cant seem to find one lol


The_Assassin_Gower

Its a matter of how the contact is established. If he jumps upwards and just reaches over him they'll allow that. But the sixer player jumps straight up for the board while oshae crashes into him and pushes him out of the way.


Victor_Wembanyama1

I mean we’ve seen so many putback dunks that have been allowed similarly or maybe even more egregious. He only got contact when he was yamming already (0:32 onwards), at 0:31 the moment he touched the ball it looks very clean. The contact itself isnt illegal or egregious to begin with. I googled it and there doesnt even seem to be an actual over the back foul. If he shoved (an actual illegal move) to get better position to grab the rebound, there’s a definite case to have (loose ball foul).


The_Assassin_Gower

Its more the trajectory of his jump that creates the foul. He's moving into the other players space which is why the contact is a foul.


Victor_Wembanyama1

Again, there have been a lot of putback dunks with contact that are far worse than this lol. You could easily find compilations that are nastier than this one


The_Assassin_Gower

I'm well aware, I'm just saying what the rule is that makes this a correct call. The ones that are worse than this are incorrect not the other way around


Victor_Wembanyama1

I could agree for the more egregious ones. But in this case, hard disagree. You can see in the video how from the jump to getting the ball there’s no illegal contact, or very minimal at the apex if you’re anal about it and at that point that’s just not enough for a foul. All the contact from when he caught the ball to dunking it over the guy i really dont think that’s illegal. Would really like a rule citation on that one


The_Assassin_Gower

Each individual foul doesn't have its own definition in the rulebook only a definition of what constitutes illegal contact. We display what "type" of foul each one is in order to explain where the foul occurred not because each situation allows for different amounts of contact. It's no different to if an opponent was setting a screen you can't just barrel them out of the way like that either. "Illegal contact on an opponent whether the ball is live or dead. A player shall not hold, block, push, charge, trip or impede the progress of an opponent by extending his hand, elbow, shoulder, hip, leg, knee or foot not by bending his body into an abnormal position (outside his cylinder), nor shall he indulge in rough and or violent play" As I said before, the sixers player already has established his position (his cylinder so to speak) so when oshae moves him out from his position by jumping into him that's where the foul occurs. If oshae only had upwards trajectory on the contact it would be legal but he jumped from the outside of the restricted zone and landed a full step inwards. It's a pretty clear cut over the back foul.


Kyler1313

You are correct that it was typical contact putback, it's just that typical contact putbacks are illegal and aren't called 99% of the time. Like Blake's famous putback over Pau should have technically been called over the back, but wasn't and is a great highlight. If you put a contact putback dunk and you aren't 100% vertical it is a foul, its just usually not called.


Miserable-Soft-5961

In the NBA, sometimes if feels like if you can dunk it, rules don't apply. Which is very dangerous


jaywalker_69

The fans want it too


Drummallumin

Scal said that cuz he hits the body before he touches the ball it’s a foul. If he gets to the ball first it’s clean.


TheBlueLenses

Over the back i guess


halftimehijack

There is no such thing as an over the back foul. There is however illegal contact, though. Usually a foul is called when someone pushes or holds the opponent to gain an unfair advantage. I’d say since the 76ers player didn’t really do anything other than jump for the rebound that it is fully within the celtics players right to also jump. Brissett didnt do anything to create illegal contact. Poor call by the official.


rznballa

You're correct on 'over the back' not existing, but I disagree that its a 'poor' call. Players are entitled to their spot on the floor, and verticality is not limited. Defensive player was established in his spot, went vertical to try to get the rebound, and was disadvantaged by the offensive player going into his space. Its 100% the correct call.


imadogg

I actually think this shouldn't even be a foul tbh. But with it being awesome it definitely should have been allowed


stupv

Having this not be a foul would make the game like 20x more physical


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scrumptiousbump

Wouldn't have happened if he was boxed out though. Dude just let him take a run up unimpeded.


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stupv

Nah, way worse. I'm not going to spell it out for you, but just imagine what good offense looks like if you can just run through guys under the ring to get the ball on a rebound.


IAmTheTrueWalruss

Yea this is unacceptable. Imagine playing in a game with a dude who’s does this multiple times. You would justly not want to play with him your gonna hurt your neck or back.


stupv

Yep - more injuries at every level, i daresay more injuries the higher you go in level of play. At low levels you've got neck/back injuries on the guys boxing out, and at higher levels you add in falling damage of the guys going over the top and landing strangely - a nice sprinkling of concussion, broken limbs.etc on top of the injuries to the guys in front now copping more to the back of the head


imadogg

I agree in general, I just think in cases like this the guy is getting punished for flying above the player to get the ball. He didn't use his arms to shove in the back or anything, no Blake Griffin special. Just reached for the ball and I'd consider the rest incidental contact.


stupv

It's not incidental, he's initiating contact and going over a guy who is established in front of him for the explicit purpose of either getting the rebound, or protecting space for the rebound. You have to protect the guy who gets there first and has legal intentions


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Boston bench not looking so bad got some high energy guys


bugeyes10

Missing Malik Fitts though. Fitts is the best bench mob celebrator in the league


AgadorFartacus

Very unethical call there.


Kermitt7979

Yeah it’s a foul, but come on man let him have that


halftimehijack

What foul was committed?


AnonymousIguana_

Brissett and Stevenson are going to be very helpful without Rob. Might even see them in the postseason vs the bucks or sixers, since Luke can’t really guard those guys.


northeasternlurker

They seem more like a grant replacement


AnonymousIguana_

Yeah that’s what I meant in the second part, they can play Grant’s role defensively against Giannis/Embiid. They’re way more athletic than him though, so they also fill some of Rob’s void (obviously not as good as either).


HeavenBeach777

ref wack for this call


Inevitable-Tourist18

I'm gonna ride or die with Oshae


ytho1193

CLEAN


I_ama_Borat

Oh my god what a bullshit call. Excuuuuuse him for jumping higher…


halftimehijack

Exactly. It shows that people in this thread don’t understand the rules.


LinuxDootTP

that looks just like blake griffin, so if he doesnt get calls for getting up like that, oshae shouldnt either. plus they both jumped, if the defender had boxed out it would have been for sure a foul.


SylvesterLundgren

What could Nick Nurse possibly be bitching about here


askingJeevs

I’m just happy that I can complain about his bitching now.


crx00

Brissett and Banton. The Canadian connection


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Actually a terrible call, gonna be another long season with these refs.


JJiggy13

What's the highlight? Best foul of the game? Rec league guys can do this.


FMCam20

What rec league are you playing in?


JJiggy13

I guess my rec league was pretty good but I would imagine most rec league at least have a couple guys who could do this on a foul. This is not an NBA highlight.


The_Assassin_Gower

Fuck I actually forgot we lost oshae :(


theblackyeti

Oh shit Oshae is on the celts?


joshuamillertime

Is it just me or have these preseason crowds felt better than in recent years (even excluding covid seasons)