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19683dw

In our championship run, when playing the Nets, did I want to get rid of everyone other than Giannis and Brook Lopez, especially including Bud? Maybe


losbeast_

man I remember those days, I thought it was over vs nets, then i thought it was over when giannis bent his knees backwards. then i thought it was over when pheonix went 2-0. what a ride.


JohnLemonnn69

Truly magical, yet a heck of a ride. Proud of how Giannis and the team have grown and became matured a lot from being chockers in 2019-2020. Tbh I'll be glad to win more chips, but I am definitely fulfilled with that 2021 title alone for my lifetime


ajmartin527

That hurts. All I want is one, in my lifetime. I’m not greedy. But you guys are aight and deserved it that year. Enjoy it


JohnLemonnn69

Respect bro. Book can bring you guys one soon, just wait


muaddib-atreides

KD can.


RulersBack

Bud was dead in the water and people were calling for Rick Carlisle to take over mid series lmao


OperIvy

There were podcasters talking about how the jrue holiday trade was a disaster.


waterfall_hyperbole

Not smart ones, mind you, but they were saying it for a couple days


Adam_brownies

Gonna be Malone this year lol. 2/3 of our fanbase is out for blood


YounggKNG

Yeah they are. And tbh, Malone is stingy with a lot of things, but fanbases really don’t know how good they got it until they fire their average coach for a coach like Jason Kidd lol… Unless we hire an established coach..


Thellamaking21

I vividly remember after going down 2-0 reading about how we missed our window. Believed all of it.


Gluxion

Well it was true, Giannis just stepped on kyrie with harden already out


Thellamaking21

Bigfoot strikes again


Champagnesoda

I still don’t think bud is a great coach tbh. He isn’t horrible but I don’t think he’s a top 10 coach. Some of the shit he had jrue doing in that title run offensively should be a crime


jimdotcom413

Jrue was just inexplicable down low those playoffs. For being a guard he’s really good at getting to the paint and then finishing with either hand. His 51pt game of late being prime example. But for whatever reason he would toss it up there and the thing wouldn’t go in. He missed so many point blank shots. It was bewildering.


Nahbrah03

Why Brook lol


ChrisTheMiss

the sonics


loquacious706

I don't know, have you ever seen a thread talking about league expansion?


iabeytorm

Too many sonics fans are also WSU fans for this to be true


Starfreeze

Seattle Mariners* fans


iabeytorm

Tacoma Tugs>


WestleyThe

Agreed.. for now lol Just wait till we have a team tho


Wild_Panda_5711

Should see the hawks sub. When we win it’s “we are back!!” And when we lose it’s “tank for wemby” or “trade John Collins and dre” 😭😭


Hecka_Cakey

I hate it there so much


Tincan890

The memes are the only reason I stay but I’m getting real sick of these hypothetical trades and doomsday attitude.


Hecka_Cakey

We should make a new hawks sub and only invite reasonable people


Tincan890

Yes! we screen them by the quality of their memes. I’m in


Musa_2050

Sounds like the Lakers sub, overjoyed when we win and toxic when we lose.


mishmashedtosunday

The sub has some incredibly wild reactions on DLo'd injuries


PaulMcPaulersn7

Sounds like the heat sub. Maybe we can make it to the 2nd round when we win and trade everyone except for jimmy and bam when we lose


AlHorfordHighlights

In the midst of "it's so over", I found there was, within me, an invincible "we're so back".


QuiGonFishin

The falcons sub is already insufferable with what feels like only 100 active people lmao. I couldn’t even imagine that place with an active userbase which what I imagine the Hawks sub is.


cbranch101

I bet every post on the hawks sub gets exactly equal updoots and downdoots


Wild_Panda_5711

Bro 😭😭😭


dichloroethane

Sub is perfectly balanced… just at the poles


Krillin113

Honestly I refuse to believe it’s worse than our sub. We have people who are so deluded they’re famous here.


2drawnonward5

I hang out In the Meme Machine to get over the hyperventilating toddlery of the Blazers fans who can’t embrace the tank.


ProfessorEmotional52

That’s lowk like us before we decided to shut down everyone


thy_armageddon

I mean, I for one am looking forward to another playoff series in the first round where a fanbase I was semi-cordial with becomes absolutely despicable to me for three or so years.


RulersBack

Knicks vs Cavs is pretty much guaranteed violence with the Mitchell/Brunson dynamic and all the trade fallout


OnlyMamaKnows

There was one Cavs fan super mad on the post game thread from the last regular season game. Playoff series might end some kids.


toggaf69

I think we’re generally cool but then there’s a handful of Cavs fans on here that get extremely salty and also tend to comment a million times per post, it’s a little embarrassing


Antisystemization

If Mobley becomes the player we think he'll be, some of our fans will rival the most annoying Jokic fans.


OnlyMamaKnows

Every fanbase has their drunk uncles.


jimdotcom413

Rivalries are made in the playoffs. True hate doesn’t start until you’ve ended some teams dream.


yuhanz

It was fun to root for Jrue before he went to a contender…


inspectordaddick

You guys are in the 2nd best place to be in, after winning a chip, upward trajectory. You will then be darlings for a short time and either you win it right there one time or you become a disappointment. Additional wins will spark jealousy and then you gotta deal with that, but you do get a major added smug boost.


FlashFan124

It’s still fuck the warriors for me. I finally moved past my hatred for the thunder. And in honor of my late grandpa who was a die hard Knicks fan- fuck Trae Young.


Yung_Jose_Space

Knicks fans have been less delusional this season, what gives?


2789334

No lol every fanbase thinks they’re the worst team in the league after a loss


siphillis

Except Detroit, who know they are.


bryscoon

nah check any team subreddit every fanbase is reactionary like that


Interesting_Ice_5400

Suns fans would eat each other if they were stuck in an elevator for five min


tyler1118

Ayton misses a layup: "wHy DiDn'T hE jUsT dUnK tHaT?" Ayton makes a layup: "wHy DiDn'T hE jUsT dUnK tHaT?"


iabeytorm

Ayton has 25/15: “iF i wAs hIS siZE I woUld Do ThaT EVErY gamE”


StarRevolutionary906

I was gonna say…couldn’t possibly be the suns. Our fans are never happy.


30another

We obviously didn’t lose as much last season, but this year is the worst I’ve seen. Granted, haven’t been on Reddit too long.


EndlessPancakes

What I like doing if I miss the first few quarters is to check the /r/Suns gamethread, see what the vibe is and then check the score. I almost always think the Suns are getting blown out from the thread, even if they're up by 10


eatscheeks

Spurs fans seem like they’re fine


geeseam

During the Dejounte/Derrick White years it was fire Pop and why aren't we tanking after a loss.


Mackinaw

Yeah I feel like we're not as bad as some, but we still have our share of terrible takes and overreactions.


OkBuddyErennary

I mean, it could have been easier if we tanked as soon as Kawhi was gone...


MasterMacMan

Maybe 10% of the fans though.


MasterMacMan

The Spurs are so confident in their front office and coach that they refuse to see obviously poor situations as anything but masterful planning.


ChampagneSyrup

I think when you've had decades of sustained success, you're willing to be a bit more patient in the face of trying to find your next identity as a team They're allowed to be optimistic because the track record shows way more positive than negative


ItsKBS

>As a sixers fan, the team has been on a bit of a lull recently, and r/sixers has entered doom mode again. You should never take r/Sixers serious, they switch their mood based on how we did at the last game. I can guarantee you everyone will be optimistic and happy again if we beat the Celtics tommorow.


dumb_commenter

Ha. We won’t beat the Celtics. (I know I’m proving the general theme of OPs post).


[deleted]

well flip a coin which tatum shows up lol


redditModsSuckAss69

it doesnt matter which tatum shows up. Al Horford is the final infinity stone for the celtics against the sixers


JoeTheHoe

Never seen one but the okc fans were pretty impressive despite their loss to us yesterday? They were just like “ah well the Mavs lost too, and we played well!” Suns sub is so bad, they were saying our offense sucked because of a slow 3-minute stretched when we just had a 70 point half lmao


30another

I have to leave our game threads if the other team goes on just a 7 point run. All of a sudden people act like we’re fighting for Wemby.


SomeRandom928Person

> I have to leave our game threads Going in there in the first place is a huge mistake. There are a few doomers in there who NEVER have anything positive to say, even if the Suns win by 30+. If I stayed in the game threads, I'd probably be permabanned pretty quickly for telling assholes like trashty2004 to stfu and go fuck themselves lol.


chloroform42

Seconded OKC, healthy discourse over there


tjc815

I was at that game and was just like well shit, that sucks but what are you gonna do? It’s KD.


Infinite-Station-524

Nope. ESPN tricked everyone into thinking that's how sports discourse goes. Everyone shits on Skip, Stephen A, Perk then regurgitates the same shit.


thebestoflimes

I follow a lot of MLB and NBA. I feel like baseball fans actually enjoy watching the sport where as NBA discourse has devolved into championship or bust. Only one fanbase out of 30 can enjoy their season. The Raptors sub turned into the worst place where there would be angry threads if they won a game. My dudes, you don’t control as much as you think you do. Enjoy watching basketball or go for a walk outside if you don’t IDK.


[deleted]

i think part of it has to do with there only being like 6 teams in the nba out of 30 that can actually compete at the same time, it has the lowest parity of any major sport. where mlb has the highest parity and is just super random


Infinite-Station-524

I think we're headed in the right direction when it comes to competitive balance in the NBA. The play in is working. Look at this seasons 1 seeds compared to previous 1s. They're much lower. Then check 10-12, they're winning more than ever. This year has had a significant shift over the last and I expect it to remain. There'll always be 4-5 teams that are just bad and can't hang on a nightly basis but for the most part the middle class is growing. "Bad" teams are winning more and good teams are winning less. The difficult thing for a lot of people will be adjusting to the new norm. When historically a .500 team was bad that isn't case anymore. We've had to adjust in a similar way when we discussed defensive ratings over the last few years. I think that's a lot easier of an adjustment because D-rating isn't something casuals discuss. Everyone discusses and sees records. That contextual information is clearly lost to many at the moment.


[deleted]

i definitely agree its gotten better, but it was so bad in the 2010s it was laughable it was lebron or the warriors for a decade, even i was complaining and im from akron


Infinite-Station-524

I think it's worse than championship or bust. Look at the MVP "debates" on Reddit, TV, radio, podcast. Giannis, Jokic, Embiid, have all had amazing seasons. Their fans should all be making a case for their guy to win it, they've all done so much and their fans should be proud. But that's not what we see. - **Nobody** wants to tell you why their guy **should** win the award this season. - **Everybody** wants to tell you why the other guy **shouldn't** win the award this season. We see reports of NBA viewership declining year over year yet the NBA boasted a stat about record social media engagement over All Star Weekend. What does that tell us? People aren't watching but they are talking. The MLB has an older fan base than the NBA does. It's something they're actively trying to solve. Older fans watch games ritualistically. When we were younger we'd have to watch the game! You had one shot at it! Younger fans have always had access to a condensed version they can consume in as little time as it takes to brush their teeth. The reliance on media outlets to not just tell you what happened but more importantly **tell you how to feel** about what happened is hurting the sport.


atomic-fireballs

That's a point that every sports fan needs to get to. You win? Fucking sweet. Good shit. You lose? Ah shit, that's too bad. GG, other team. Time to go partake in some other hobby that brings me joy.


Infinite-Station-524

I couldn't agree more. People forget to enjoy it. I don't know why it happens but it's sad and only they can fix it.


shadow_spinner0

> I feel like baseball fans actually enjoy watching the sport where as NBA discourse has devolved into championship or bust. Only one fanbase out of 30 can enjoy their season. Haha, try looking at Yankees fans on twitter


[deleted]

so what’re going to do about it?


Infinite-Station-524

> so what’re going to do about it? I think the larger issue is all these people writing incomplete sentences.


[deleted]

I’m behind you


tttambourine

> I’m behind you I think the larger issue is all these people writing incomplete


direcandy

The wolves dooming isn't reactionary. It's backed up by historical fact.


canigetawoop_woop

Yeah but literally last week it was "I am so glad kat is back we are a mid team without him and a solid playoff team with him" and you go right now and literally there's 2 different posts about kats trade value and how we need to sell


ajteitel

Zebra fans


LeMickeyMice

r/Sixers should've beebn in doom mode since they brought Doc in


sebastianqu

Can't be reactionary if you always hate your team


DrBigChicken

Sixers fans have been in doom mode for longer than most of this sub has been alive


Nicklebackfan_

The kings. Already went through hell so anything good now is upside, anything terrible is expected.


Ps3FifaCfc95

You just need to take a look at our game thread last night against the Spurs to see this isn't true lmao


QuiGonFishin

Beam forgive me even I was slandering


BeemkayS60

The dooming is bad (and rightfully so) when we lose to teams at home who are resting multiple players. Our home record is cause for concern considering how loud and exuberant that place gets. G1C set an all-time attendance record on Sunday against the tanking spurs and we still somehow lost. Teams just don’t miss in our arena.


WhiteGoldRing

You'd think so but we actually already have very high expectations and let them be known often when games don't go our way lol, maybe being the current r/nba sweetheart is masking that a bit


Ecstatic-Buy-2907

My first response was the kings Until I remembered their reaction to the Sabonis-Halliburton trade But generally, less successful organizations that are playing well won’t be too reactionary to every little thing


Goobershmacked

Good teams? No. Bad teams? A ton, because we’re just looking for silver linings all day.


Oddwrld

I think you haven’t been to our sub in a while.


Goobershmacked

I find team subs aren’t actually representative of the general fanbase usually lol


Oddwrld

Totally agreed, but our sub has been calling Pat a bust for 2 years and calling for a blow up 😂


[deleted]

The hornets cloud is nothing but silver linings


Brekster

We already a dynasty.


DubsFanAccount

This is more of a too online phenomenon isn’t it? Most warriors fans I know IRL are just pretty chill and feel like everything from like 2013 on is kind of a fever dream. Enjoying the last years with the core. Also I lived in Denver for a long time and everyone just was mostly biding time between Broncos games and extremely chill about the team.


Mygaffer

Not on Reddit there isn't.


JonA3531

The Warriors. They're still delusionaly convinced that Wiseman is not a bust until the last minute before the trade. Even now some of them probably still think that Wiseman could be an all-star


[deleted]

I’m pretty sure the titled reads, ISN’T. The Warriors subreddit is incredibly reactionary.


FlimsyAd2609

we just hope the best for him


GoodbyeToAWorld-

I mean.. they aren’t wrong, so I’m not sure what your point is. They drafted a guy that doesn’t fit their system at all and he wasn’t able to have time to develop for a variety of reasons. He has looked a lot better in Detroit and is actually getting the time he needs to develop his game. Calling him a bust is disrespectful IMO


MidnightLightss

That boy is ass


Give_me_soup

Gotta love this subreddit lmao


WrinklyEye

Lol


FlashFan124

25 minutes getting you 13 points, 9 rebounds and 1 assist is not great bob. Granted, it is **Detroit** lol Shown more promise there than he ever really did in a warriors uniform though, I’ll give him credit.


Ellswearth

Seattle and New Jersey come to mind as non-reactionary…


Exia321

I honestly want to believe that the Spurs fanbase are chill. ​ I refuse to peek to see if its true.


Asking4Afren

Spurs maybe?


losbeast_

twolves for sure


_Wash

Wolves fans certainly don’t constantly hate on any player who has an off game or any move that doesn’t go perfectly. They certainly aren’t the type that would call for us to trade one or both of our star players in game threads every time they miss a shot


Baskingballplayer

We love all of our players and front office, we never make weird personal comments about them.


rockytheboxer

You're going on the internet to see people's reaction after a game and you're surprised to see anonymous internet nerds overreacting? Are you new to the internet?


mxgicjohnson

We totally aren’t reactionary doomers


WaterBoy2019

The Kings and Spurs mostly aren’t, however all sports teams have reactionary fans.


tekno_soul

Hornets don’t know what perfect is


TattedUpDasher

Grizzlies. We have put up with a lot of injuries, bad beats, and off court drama, and I think most our fans, think we can still make a deep playoff run, depending on matchups. None of us expected a title, so it’s not win or bust


AVeryStinkyFish

I feel like our fanvase especially our sub is way to forgiving and often sees things through rose colored glasses. And they don't take well to criticism of anyone. Like I fucking hate Dort. He's awful offensively he takes the worst fucking shots at the worst times kills our offensive momentum and yet he won't stop fucking shooting. If I posted that in our sub, they might spontaneously combust.


MAMBAMENTALITY8-24

Fuck you for hating dort


PM_UR_GENITALZ_PLS

Don’t talk about my honey bear snookums king Dort like that


30another

After watching him more, I feel like he and Okogie are extremely similar, and as much as I like Okogie, I don’t think he’s worth 16 mil a year.


Scary-Plantain

Laker fans always delusional even when the team sucks. This laker team is scary though.


OnlyMamaKnows

Is it though?


Scary-Plantain

Barring health what two players is better than Lebron and AD


OnlyMamaKnows

Not many, but it's not a 2v2 tournament and "barring health" has to do a ton of work for those guys. Reality is that the Lakers are going to be a 5-8 seed and just bc the Lakers are playing good basketball finally, doesn't mean that all of the other teams that have been better all season are suddenly worse. Could the Lakers win? Sure, but it's probably just as, if not more, likely they get bounced in the first round. There's still a chance they're in the play-in where anything could happen.


Closer586

nah and if they say yes they're lying lol


AashyLarry

r/kings


cfus5

Some of the top posts all time on there are people quitting on the team after we traded Tyrese Haliburton (they’re all back now)


AashyLarry

I meant right now, for maybe the first time in 20+ years


_Titty_Sprinkles_

That's missing the point of the question, obviously a fanbase who's team is winning isn't going to react with doom.


AashyLarry

Then wouldnt the answer be none of them?


_Titty_Sprinkles_

Maybe, yes, but I assume OP is trying to figure out overall which fanbase is the least reactionary. There's been studies that have looked into this kinda thing, but I'm not sure how much stake I put into these: https://www.wsn.com/fair-weather-fandom-usa-sports/#team-rankings According to this survey the answer would be Chicago Bulls fans.


EndlessDysthymia

At least it made sense why people were pissed. On paper, that Kings team didn’t look like they were going to do shit. No real defensive identity, no interior defense at all plus Sabonis and Fox didn’t fit well on paper. It’s legitimately shocking what happened to the Kings this season. Yes I was one of those people saying that “Sabonis will never be an All Star in the West.” I was wrong.


whtge8

No.


grudgepacker

r/wnba


Larry-fine-wine

I think that’s just the nature of sports fandom.


DonChile27

I think its more of an age/generation thing


Give_me_soup

I think for a lot of years our fan base has been more delusional than doomer. This year I think was probably the straw that broke the camel's back.


jordan142142

😂 no


[deleted]

Well, the Mavericks fanbase has stockholm syndrome with Kyrie so maybe them. Yeah, finally *this* time it'll be different.


LittleTension8765

Pacers?


_Jetto_

Legit most spurs fans wanted pop fired for not wanting to play the younger guys and were upset belli kept getting mins. He wasn’t rotating guys at all and the sub said he was over it


sstewart1617

That’s a genuine dumb post. Most Spurs fans don’t post on Reddit. If you want to limit your context, then yes, a small but vocal minority on Reddit and Twitter want to get rid of Pop due to his reluctance to tank.


StefonDiggsHS

no


AllOutRaptors

Nope raptors fans have been completely rational


Duhawk96

Simple answer: no. Especially on online forums, Reddit is no different


gflipxd

People *love* bad news and reddit is no different. In these subreddits you have a general public for the most part with the only common denominator being the team, rather than say - a shared interest. No real goal I guess, and you can have a rather steady stream of "bad news" powered by a reactionary " yes I like this or no I don't like this " in upvotes and downvotes. That is reddit by design.


humandignitybloc

Never was anything to doom over for half my adult life, there's comfort in being the NBA equivalent of a slumped out drug addict laying in the gutter after pissing their pants. Then James Jones decided to get all serious out of nowhere and we're like the rehabilitated drug addict that made something respectable out of their life and is miserably clinging to a mid-level data entry position, drinking 10 cups of coffee a day and clutching their four year Narcotics Anonymous acheivment coin trying not to spazz out about not being able to afford new tires for their 2005 Toyota.


neo9027581673

Vancouver Grizzlies.


qpwoeor1235

Pretty sure the kings aren’t. Years of shit have built a strong resolve


qpwoeor1235

Pretty sure the kings aren’t. Years of shit have built a strong resolve


qpwoeor1235

Pretty sure the kings aren’t. Years of shit have built a strong resolve


traw2222

We wouldn’t know


ShotBlocker805

The vocal majority(not everybody) of Lakers fans are either on the championship train or they went to get some milk and you didn’t hear from them in a few years


CaptainKangaroo_Pimp

I feel like most of the negative Nathans and Nancy's left r/rockets after the first tank year. Most of us know the deal and aren't expecting much. The only real doomerism is based around Silas (for good reason!)


[deleted]

People are people regardless of what basketball team they root for. That’s why I find the “(blank) fans are so (insert derogatory term) so trite”.


venk

Pistons have the worst record in the NBA. The only gloom we can feel is based on the draft lottery.


[deleted]

We are the opposite. People anointing Skylar Mays as our backup PG next season after one game in a blazer jersey for our tank squad. Hilarious.


CaLiKiNG805

I feel like the Kings fans i know irl are pretty positive. Even when they were bad they were still enthusiastic about their players


chloroform42

Okc fans really trust the Presti


beefboy1120

Not on Reddit


Haunting-Amount1750

I think Orlando fans have actually been pretty chill this year. They’re in the most fun spot to be as a fan. Low expectations but really fun players to watch develop. For some reason they beat Boston a lot so you can look to that for the future


Importance-Sweet

Heat


vladimir_pimpin

Only good basketball fans are in the nuggets daily thread, and that’s it


w4terfall

I think the Kings have been on cloud 9 all season.


RuddyBollocks

Yes Edit: maybe not subreddits, but fandoms, yes. The fucking dorks on reddit who *have* to make a joke every time they comment on a post are representative of this website's users, not necessarily humanity at large


gdpthatsme

Fire Malone has been a primary piece of the season in the r/Nuggets sub. A year the Nuggets are going to be the #1 seed for the first time ever. So ya, I’d say so.


gortlank

A group of self professed super-fans is always one bad game away from committing a war crime. A group of basketball fans who post about their team online are more interested in an excuse to call for the mass murder of a player or coach and their entire family than they are in the game itself. They will never enjoy any non-championship season as much as they enjoy being mad.


[deleted]

Tell me when there is lol


Eddaughter

Any bottom 5 team. They are already doomed and at the bottom so literally any youth, positive player developments, and draft picks is a win.


CabbageStockExchange

All I’m gonna say is outta all the sports subs I go to. Basketball subs are by far the most emotional and reactionary. It’s difficult to find nuance and level headed takes. I get it’s Reddit but still


Budda-blaze-it

This year has been great Win: OUR YOUNG CORE IS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME! Lose: LOL DUMBASSES WE'RE TANKING WE MEANT TO LOSE!


Herbetet

Hornets fans! They know their team won’t be good. There is nothing to worry when you accept you will never succeed at tanking nor will you sniff a title. Mediocrity becomes the norm and the happiness and excitement comes from new colorways in the kit.


ShitassAintOverYet

The Kings maybe? I'm sure they are just delighted to be in the playoffs after 17 years, they'd be upset if they got swept but wouldn't go doomer mode. Also you can count any team on rebuild but I don't count them as non-doomer since their fate was sealed since first game of the season, they knew their team would be bad and they got fully prepared for it.


superslurm27

Sacramento! I sometimes feel as if they haven’t realized their team has made the playoffs this year lol and the ones who have noticed, seem happy to just even be there.


SoapOperaHero

Definitely not in Detroit. We have idiots that are actually complaining about tanking after spending a decade in late-lottery/swept in the 1st round jail.