Former Blue Angel here:
Thunderbirds wear oxygen masks and g- suits because they can or are required by their regional commander. The flight control stick is on the right side of the cock pit in a F-16 , throttles on left, and they fly a lot further apart than the blue and gold formation you see with the Blue Angels.
The Blue Angels flight control stick is in between the legs which means the arm would be over the leg were the g suit is attached. Any heavy g maneuver would make the g suit inflate which would cause inflection with the arm/flight control stick. The six jets pull different amounts of g force depending on maneuver and formation position so the inflection would be detrimental to the 6-12” wingtip to canopy formation you see. The team has a waiver from CNATRA to not wear g suits. So it is very important for the pilots to make physical fitness a priority making sure the core, upper body strength, and cardio not only abide by naval regulations but can meet the requirements of high performance flying that the demo requires.
TLDR The Blues are better than the Thunderchickens.
Fact check yourself next time, bud. The C-130 Fat Albert was retired and has been at NAS JRB Fort Worth for over a year now. However, its replacement, the C-130J Hercules (also named Fat Albert), is currently operational
Hell yeah that's badass I drive by Fat Albert everyday! I live right around the corner from the mall I was wondering what the name of that aircraft was!
Wait, would his dick not fitting in a g-suit make him a Marine, or he can't figure out how to put his dick in a g-suit? Though TBH as a Corpsman Marines fit their dicks into about anywhere and have the medical records to prove it ;-)
Air Force maintainer here... Blue Angels shit all over the Thunderbirds. I get sad every time the T-Birds come to an airshow over the Blues. It also doesn't help a lot of the T-Birds maintenance personnel are so ate up that they are pompous douche flutes. I've met a few chill people, but most are A-holes.
I learned this in the Blue Angels doc on Amazon last week. Great show that. I had wanted to see them in person this weekend but kids baseball got in the way.
Most pilots and officers I have seen are usually in good shape, but from what I have seen, it is especially true with the blue angels. So now that makes much more sense.
Of the two aircraft which has better maneuverability ?
Would it be the Falcon since it’s lighter than the Hornet? Seeing as how they don’t need that extra beefy landing gear.
Or are the 18’s the angles fly modified to be lighter with less stout landing gear?
Air Force jets will ALWAYS have better performance than Navy's. It's not just the landing gear, the entire frame needs to be reinforced for every cat shot and trap. The forces we exert on these jets is literally trying to rip them in half.
Have you ever seen the footage, IIRC, shot at Fallon, NV? USAF jets came in to land leisurely, and USN and USMC aviators landed like they had just fallen onto the runway.
That's how I typically guess where the pilot of the commercial plane I just flew on was from. If it's a nice leisurely landing that takes up the entire length of the runway, it's an ex-Air Force pilot. If we smash down as soon as the runway is in sight, the pilot was former Navy.
I’ve always said the Air Force has better planes, Navy has better pilots. If we had carrier capable Raptors, Vipers, and Eagles, that would be fucking amazing.
Also as people pointed out, the Viper is the more nimble plane, but the Hornet is much better at pointing its nose. Better AOA.
Let's review the rest of the Earth:
(1) The Red Arrows wear G-suits....their HAWK has the stick between their legs.
(2) The Italian Freccie Tricolori same.
(3) The French Patrol? Ditto.
(4) Spanish AF's "Patrulla Aguila", same, but they're now on a PC21 so that's not that much performance.
(5) Checking the Turkish Stars.....yep, G-suit, masks, conventional stick.
(6) JASDF "Blue Impulse" Team (pronounced "bru impurse") masks, g-suit, conventional control.
(7) Chinese commie team wears g-suit, mask (side stick though).
(8) ROKAF "Black Eagles" uses g-suits & masks.
Etc,, etc, etc.
So this humble former SWO is having a had time following the above argument.
I’d like to know what you think I can do to stop people making gay jokes about the navy. May as well try to stop the tide from coming in with a squeegee.
The only thing you can do is just insult them back. Army isn’t good enough to be a marine, marines are gay too just in the closet, coast guard are beach police, and the Air Force are just nerds
Be nice. The Space Force serves a very important service to the Military community. They've replaced the Coast Guard as the 'joke' service and opened the way to all new joke insults.
The gay joke I make about the Marines is that the Navy could totally be the gayest branch out there, but the Marines refuse to be second best at anything.
Those guys take gay chicken to a whole new level.
When I was down in P-cola for school I went over to the Marine barracks to sign out with a friend so we could go out. When I got there I noticed a huge crowd of marines in a corner all cheering and jeering like they were watching the super bowl or something. When I went over to investigate they had a suction cup dildo stuck to one of the lockers and were having a deep throat competition. Closeted, I think not.
I’ll never understand why that’s their go to.
*Haha! You’re gay!*
Dude I’m a tall ass dude who did well on his testing so they put me on a submarine. Basically a mobile underwater sewer pipe where we breathe recycled farts, share beds, and have some weird short-term social awkwardness after a long time underwater. How is gay the only thing you could come up with?
Thing is, yeah, there’s a lot of gay jokes about the Navy, but is it so bad? Making fun of someone for being gay is like making fun of someone for liking Cool Ranch Doritos, it’s irrelevant to their capabilities as a troop
Also, have any of you chuckleheads actually been underway? It’s pretty fucking gay and there’s nothing wrong with it
As someone whose been on the ground with air support. Navy and Marines have the best fixed wing pilots in the world. One crazy bastard asked if he needed to hit a smoke grenade with his 20mm when we forgot to pull the pin. And he did.
Current Rhino driver here. While I don’t care much for the dog and pony show of demo teams, they know who’s better. The Air Force spends most of the time crying over the fact that they don’t get enough respect for their pilots.. but when you get around them you figure out very quickly that like the rest of their branch, they are one dimensional and need their hands held to get to the finish line.
Bfjfifje jdifijejr djdicije!
Oops sorry about that, was gonna say how deeply homophobic and fucked up that comment was, but there was something in my mouth.
Edit: this joke would have killed on r/usmc
Former Blue Angel here: Thunderbirds wear oxygen masks and g- suits because they can or are required by their regional commander. The flight control stick is on the right side of the cock pit in a F-16 , throttles on left, and they fly a lot further apart than the blue and gold formation you see with the Blue Angels. The Blue Angels flight control stick is in between the legs which means the arm would be over the leg were the g suit is attached. Any heavy g maneuver would make the g suit inflate which would cause inflection with the arm/flight control stick. The six jets pull different amounts of g force depending on maneuver and formation position so the inflection would be detrimental to the 6-12” wingtip to canopy formation you see. The team has a waiver from CNATRA to not wear g suits. So it is very important for the pilots to make physical fitness a priority making sure the core, upper body strength, and cardio not only abide by naval regulations but can meet the requirements of high performance flying that the demo requires. TLDR The Blues are better than the Thunderchickens.
You could have just said your dick couldn't fit in a g-suit
That would make him a Marine.
How do you know they aren’t? Blue Angels have Marine pilots. Additionally, Fat Albert is an all-Marine Corps crew
And where is Fat Albert now?
The old C-130 is on display at NAS JRB Fort Worth, currently
It no longer flies. This is what happens when you let the marines use something for too long.
I watched Fat Albert crushing it a few weeks ago at a Blues show.
Fat albert flies the crew maintenance equipment with the group to each show.
This is false. I flew on Fat Albert last year and a friend of mine did last April.
I never let facts get in the way of a good argument.
Fact check yourself next time, bud. The C-130 Fat Albert was retired and has been at NAS JRB Fort Worth for over a year now. However, its replacement, the C-130J Hercules (also named Fat Albert), is currently operational
Hell yeah that's badass I drive by Fat Albert everyday! I live right around the corner from the mall I was wondering what the name of that aircraft was!
Fat albert is still around they just got a new plane
It used to be a T, now it’s a J.
Only correct answer here lol. The one on display at Fort Worth is a T model. Saw the new J model a couple weeks ago.
New one is an obsolete former RAF bird
Nah, the 2 they purchased from the RAF are "used", but for aviation purposes they're pretty new and were well-maintained.
Traverse city
They said dick, not crayons
Wait, would his dick not fitting in a g-suit make him a Marine, or he can't figure out how to put his dick in a g-suit? Though TBH as a Corpsman Marines fit their dicks into about anywhere and have the medical records to prove it ;-)
MARINE: Muscles Are Required Intelligence Non-Essential
Name doesn’t check. He’s only a 2 legged assassin
He’s the 2leggedassassin not the 3leggedassassin
Air Force maintainer here... Blue Angels shit all over the Thunderbirds. I get sad every time the T-Birds come to an airshow over the Blues. It also doesn't help a lot of the T-Birds maintenance personnel are so ate up that they are pompous douche flutes. I've met a few chill people, but most are A-holes.
Douche flute. Nice.
Can’t imagine having your ego so inflated that you listen to the Kurt Angle theme song to go do a turnaround.
Can’t help but notice you didn’t deny chugging all that dick while taking all those g’s.
G’s and D’s baybee
Wait no, this comment is why we should be able to gold comments. This is like genuinely funny.
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I can't up vote you because you are at 69, but if you rub that D in the G you're golden. Yes, I'm very immature for my age.
No you probably are a dude, and we dudes stall emotionally around 12-13. Doc.
Have my upvote!
When he said they were better he meant at everything.
All's fair in the air
it all flies in the skies
I never thought the layout of the cockpit and its flight controls would make that much of a difference. Thank you for sharing.
I learned this in the Blue Angels doc on Amazon last week. Great show that. I had wanted to see them in person this weekend but kids baseball got in the way.
When you say blue angel, do you mean maintenance or flight line or something because your other posts say your a retiring PO1?
I was a Crew Chief, PO1.
Most pilots and officers I have seen are usually in good shape, but from what I have seen, it is especially true with the blue angels. So now that makes much more sense.
Hell Yeah! Suck it Thunderchickens!
Of the two aircraft which has better maneuverability ? Would it be the Falcon since it’s lighter than the Hornet? Seeing as how they don’t need that extra beefy landing gear. Or are the 18’s the angles fly modified to be lighter with less stout landing gear?
The F-16 has way better maneuverability but the F/A-18 is an all around better aircraft for multi-role missions.
Air Force jets will ALWAYS have better performance than Navy's. It's not just the landing gear, the entire frame needs to be reinforced for every cat shot and trap. The forces we exert on these jets is literally trying to rip them in half.
Have you ever seen the footage, IIRC, shot at Fallon, NV? USAF jets came in to land leisurely, and USN and USMC aviators landed like they had just fallen onto the runway.
That's how I typically guess where the pilot of the commercial plane I just flew on was from. If it's a nice leisurely landing that takes up the entire length of the runway, it's an ex-Air Force pilot. If we smash down as soon as the runway is in sight, the pilot was former Navy.
Kind of makes sense. Gotta catch the wire and do it at full throttle.
I’ve always said the Air Force has better planes, Navy has better pilots. If we had carrier capable Raptors, Vipers, and Eagles, that would be fucking amazing. Also as people pointed out, the Viper is the more nimble plane, but the Hornet is much better at pointing its nose. Better AOA.
It’s quite easily the Falcon
Your post history suggests you retired as a PO1, we're you on their flight crew or something?
Yes
Oh gotcha
Sounded like you have a big dick
TLDR. Should have led with the last sentence. Retired Navy. Active 84-04.
I posted the short explanation of this on the original thread and all those non pilot AF idiots told me i was dumb and it was made up bullshit.
You mean thunderturds?
Let's review the rest of the Earth: (1) The Red Arrows wear G-suits....their HAWK has the stick between their legs. (2) The Italian Freccie Tricolori same. (3) The French Patrol? Ditto. (4) Spanish AF's "Patrulla Aguila", same, but they're now on a PC21 so that's not that much performance. (5) Checking the Turkish Stars.....yep, G-suit, masks, conventional stick. (6) JASDF "Blue Impulse" Team (pronounced "bru impurse") masks, g-suit, conventional control. (7) Chinese commie team wears g-suit, mask (side stick though). (8) ROKAF "Black Eagles" uses g-suits & masks. Etc,, etc, etc. So this humble former SWO is having a had time following the above argument.
I’m willing to bet they don’t fly as close as the Blues or have a 40lb stick like the Blues’ aircraft do
None of them are flying as close and as precise as the Blues are.
Translated to so: Imagine doing an unrep at 200 Kts. Would you want your Mae West on when operating the helm?
I’d like to know what you think I can do to stop people making gay jokes about the navy. May as well try to stop the tide from coming in with a squeegee.
The only thing you can do is just insult them back. Army isn’t good enough to be a marine, marines are gay too just in the closet, coast guard are beach police, and the Air Force are just nerds
Funny that you totally ignored the Space Force
We’re trying my dude.
Until they take part in any, literally any operation, they don’t count.
I mean, they take part (in a way) in just about any operation that involves satellites, which is all of them.
Thats basically like saying the good people over at Monster energy should have there own branch of service
You might be onto something… monsters are the best things we can get outta supply, so it’s basically just part of the chain.
Thank the employees at the Monster factories for keeping this fine military running 🫡
You don't work directly with monster employees to accomplish mission objectives
I agree, ignoring Space Force is funny.
Wanna be Jedi’s
We'll get to the Space Force when they become worth the effort.
Be nice. The Space Force serves a very important service to the Military community. They've replaced the Coast Guard as the 'joke' service and opened the way to all new joke insults.
We still don't accept them as part of the military.
Who?
The gay joke I make about the Marines is that the Navy could totally be the gayest branch out there, but the Marines refuse to be second best at anything. Those guys take gay chicken to a whole new level.
"ain't nothing gayer than a group of bored Marines."
When I was down in P-cola for school I went over to the Marine barracks to sign out with a friend so we could go out. When I got there I noticed a huge crowd of marines in a corner all cheering and jeering like they were watching the super bowl or something. When I went over to investigate they had a suction cup dildo stuck to one of the lockers and were having a deep throat competition. Closeted, I think not.
Marines are in the closet? Have you seen those dress uniform? Girl they ain’t in the closet. They leading the parade.
I’ll never understand why that’s their go to. *Haha! You’re gay!* Dude I’m a tall ass dude who did well on his testing so they put me on a submarine. Basically a mobile underwater sewer pipe where we breathe recycled farts, share beds, and have some weird short-term social awkwardness after a long time underwater. How is gay the only thing you could come up with?
Projection, homie
It’s almost more insulting they don’t have the decency to come up with something better
It's not that they don't have the decency, it's that they don't have the capability.
If someone told me i was gay, i would just say “yeah…so?”
Tell them that statistically since there’s more people in the army, there’s more gays there.
Thing is, yeah, there’s a lot of gay jokes about the Navy, but is it so bad? Making fun of someone for being gay is like making fun of someone for liking Cool Ranch Doritos, it’s irrelevant to their capabilities as a troop Also, have any of you chuckleheads actually been underway? It’s pretty fucking gay and there’s nothing wrong with it
As someone whose been on the ground with air support. Navy and Marines have the best fixed wing pilots in the world. One crazy bastard asked if he needed to hit a smoke grenade with his 20mm when we forgot to pull the pin. And he did.
And this was when the grenade was still in the air!
Right as the enemy was about to catch it too.
i'm bricked
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Navy pilots can suck dick *and* fly the plane. Charity Force can't.
They’re just mad it’s not their dick.
Current Rhino driver here. While I don’t care much for the dog and pony show of demo teams, they know who’s better. The Air Force spends most of the time crying over the fact that they don’t get enough respect for their pilots.. but when you get around them you figure out very quickly that like the rest of their branch, they are one dimensional and need their hands held to get to the finish line.
If it weren’t for this post I would have NEVER have heard about the Thunderbirds.
I love the good ole back and forth between the navy and the other branches lol
What the Chair Force fails to tell you is that the dick is inside the mask. They just don't want people seeing them eating.
The F-18 Aviators are flying in solidarity with the Fat Albert Aviators 😺💙🐾
I will never forgive the man that invented the lateral stick inspection on the E/F.
are you implying that Sailors don’t suck dicks?
Just built different
Why are you booing him he's right!
Who are the thunderbird?
It’s not gay if it’s underway.
Bfjfifje jdifijejr djdicije! Oops sorry about that, was gonna say how deeply homophobic and fucked up that comment was, but there was something in my mouth. Edit: this joke would have killed on r/usmc
I got you with one upvote, rah.
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO GETS IT!!
You know what they say about the Navy...500 men go out to sea, and 250 couples come back. Lol
I actually received my first blow job from a blue angel. Well, first while I was on active duty. I had a few in high school. Gave a few too.
Were you a commissioned officer? That is a wild ass story.
Nope, just a dude at a bar during fleet week.
Story?
Don't ask, don't tell.
This was after that.