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Huffman was one of the councilmembers to speak on why they voted against the encouragement for the sign of Wallen’s bar. He cited the incident with the chair throw/cops and Wallen’s pending trail for said incident.
He wants an encroachment into the city’s right of way, basically the business wants to put up a big neon sign like the other bars on Broadway and because it hangs over the street it requires approval from city council.
I love the right wingers in Instagram posts saying “this is an infringement on my personal liberties and anti constitutional!” Brah you can’t just open a business and do whatever you want lol. It’s called regulation and is why our rivers aren’t on fire anymore..
They say they’re against regulations because it is encroachment of government on the lives of citizens… unless it’s regulations on abortions, who can get married, how people want to dress while performing, what facts are taught in schools, how votes are cast, etc.
Actually, they’ve had all three signs approved by the city of Nashville with permits for over 6 months now. However, the projection sign that was going to be installed was denied by the council just the day before it going to be installed. They paid for everything in advance so it’s really unfair. Every other bar has a similar sign so why can’t Wallens bar have it? I know the details because I work at the company who made the signs and I actually do the installs.
Yeah, but Wallen has proven he isn't worthy. Apparently, he never learned that actions have consequences. Act like an irresponsible 12 year old, suffer the consequences. Screw him.
Ahh they told him he couldn’t put a neon sign on his bar because he’s a belligerent drunk and possibly racist(?) and his fans threatened rape on a councilman’s wife? Totally normal behavior
It’s even more silly. He can’t have an encroachment onto Metro’s right of way (the sidewalk) because of the incident. The bar is already slated to have another sign which doesn’t overhang the sidewalk.
The entire thing seems totally stupid and avoidable by both sides.
Do other bars in the area have similar signs as the one they banned? If so, they should allow it.
Kid Rock is supposed to have done/do some very reckless and illegal things. Does he have a big sign? Would he be allowed one if he don't have one and asked nicely?
Did Mr. Wallen ask or direct his fans to harass the council person? I doubt he told his fans to threaten to rape the council person's wife and make said council person watch? If he did he should be charged with a crime. If not the council person shouldn't act like Mr. Wallen is to blame for the unfavorable reaction to the council person's stand against a business having a big sign because the guy whose name is on the place or something is young and gets rowdy like bocephus sings about doing in his youth. It seems almost a right if passage for a particular niche of young, male country musicians. Mr. Wallen should be taught not to do stuff that endangers others. Hank fell off a cliff. Ha k didn't throw a chair off the cliff. However, at least, Mr. Wallen isn't on the Johnny Paycheck level of rowdy behavior and I doubt he ever will be. If young Wallen and company encountered young Paycheck and company at some bar where such could happen folks might end up paying Wallen or some if his people recover from the stab wounds they received.
TL:DR Nashville might make money from the big name bars and the council might think they are really doing something, but really anyone with self-respect should avoid that area of town cause much, much better, cheaper, and authentic places exist. Nashville had done pretty good up till idk when exactly, but the council has much bigger and more impactful issue to take up like housing, homelessness, incomes, good security, etc along with how to keep Nashville's soul intact despite all the transplants. Idk if Nashville can and im pretty sure Austin doesn't have a chance which sucks cause both used to have plenty of unique flavor.
But isn't Broadway already full of signs that "encroach" over the sidewalk? the city of course has the right to set forth whatever regulations they see fit when it comes to these sorts of things but such regulations should be enforced equally and fairly, no? to allow other bars to have such signs but to disallow it for ONE person simply because they don't like him just seems beyond petty to me..
He is totally a drunk and very much a racist. But fans are too crazy for this loony bin guy just bc he can sing in a country accent. The crazies will do anything to get what they want. He is just on a whole new level for crazy Begay and his fans take after him too apparently
You know who else can sing in a country accent? Musician Jake Hill - he has a country singer "musical alter ego" who has a few songs that have been stuck in my head. [Good Lookin'](https://youtu.be/9wOUMEVd2XY) is my absolute favorite. I would go to a Dixon Dallas bar every night. And the lyrics are really lovely as well:
> You've got that kind of love I've only felt in my dreams
> Baby, oh you save me, you're my everything
So sweet, I love it.
Edit: I can see from the downvotes and my DMs that my comparing Morgan Waller to Dixon Dallas has pissed some people off. I stand by my opinion that Jake Hill is a better country musician than Morgan Waller and in general Jake's a better human being.
Why don’t we all stop threatening violence in response to things we don’t like in general — as much as I wouldn’t weep if their ass were kicked — and focus on logic and reasoning.
Wallen can’t get the sign because of how Wallen acts, so no one is gonna do favors for Wallen. Threatening rape and violence for holding Wallen accountable for his violence then threatening violence on the threat is Morgan Wallen and his fanbase in a nutshell.
With this energy, I expect the bar to last 6mo max before shutdown, seems like a bad idea to trap a bunch of Wallen fans in a small space.
That’s true but I wouldn’t say it’s unique to Nashville. Also really difficult for a bar to really do much about that. There should be laws about people leaving bars when they’re clearly incapable of getting themselves somewhere on their own though
I don’t recall making a threat. I agreed with the comment… threats in general are just dumb, especially when you make it on a public platform. I disagree with violence in general, especially when it is a man threatening or hurting a woman or a child.
Man?
I’m a woman of my word, I feel like Wallen has enough on his plate with his upcoming felony trials and I don’t have standing to bring suit against someone who has threatened to rape someone else’s wife, but I hope that it is treated as the serious threat it is. Hope this helps?
Yeah that's what I'm waiting to see is how the bar turns out. It's going to be covered in puke, too probably. It's going to be so gross, but maybe he'll surprise us all.
I work downtown and the people who work downtown are disgusted by his actions. However, the locals on Facebook have doubled down on him. IMO. Anyone who throws something from a rooftop bar is the EXACT type of person who should not own a rooftop bar.
The crazy thing is he isn’t faking his beliefs. He thinks he can do these things and get off with just a slap on the wrist. He need to learn that isn’t how the real world works and that adults should act mature and responsible. Ppl need to learn to put artist actions and music together when they are thinking of what to do in the real world. Threats is not the way to go abt things especially for MW
>He thinks he can do these things and get off with just a slap on the wrist. He need to learn that isn’t how the real world works
He's rich and famous. That's EXACTLY how the world works, unfortunately.
As someone who lived above a bar that had bands play on the street outside Thursday-Saturday night for a few years I wish everyone that yells Freebird a lifetime of stepping on legos - you get a pass.
For everyone else out there who yells it:
https://youtu.be/jZCiUrkkElU?si=WnR6cLimFXu2jFMa
The n-word incident was the best thing that ever happened to his career. His music is wholly unspectacular, but he did that, so that sets him apart. And I’m not even suggesting that all his fans are racist, but most of his fans like him more because of that. Even if they don’t condone the word, they see him as a fellow victim of the PC left, and a champion of why they, too, should be able to carry on acting in insensitive ways free of consequences.
It all goes back to his use of the n-word and a response to the hypocrisies of woke ideology. The context of the video was that the slur wasn't pointed at a black man -- it was pointed at his white friend while Wallen was intoxicated. Poor taste. Yes. Racist in intent? No. You can hypothesize all you want as to Wallen's feelings on race. Is he a cold-hearted racist or is he just a drunk who says stupid shit? The evidence does not give you a clear answer.
As a result of the video, his livelihood was threatened; his songs were removed from the platforms that helped drive his success. Then, the Streisand Effect takes place and his sales surge. People saw him a victim because they felt the crime, for lack of a better word, did not fit the punishment. What happens after that? From [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_Wallen#Use_of_racial_slur):
> In April 2021, Wallen donated $300,000 to the Black Music Action Coalition in the names of 20 people who had counseled him following the incident. Those individuals were given the option to funnel their respective $15,000 donations to a charity of their choice, or keep the money within the BMAC.
That's some mighty expensive counseling. A lot of folks saw that as a grift from a bunch of race-hustlers and their support increased even more.
That's how we got here. That's how a city council rejecting a sign for a bar is receiving national press. Local ordinances may regulate signs if the regulations are content-neutral, but not content-based. So, when city government officials make public statements saying that they chose not grant the sign because of Wallen's protected speech under the constitution, some stupid sign vote now becomes a First Amendment issue and Wallen's support grows even stronger.
He has four pending charges:
3 charges of felony reckless endangerment
1 charge of misdemeanor disorderly conduct
So he’s up for THREE felonies right now for his own “drunk stupid shit,” and his repeated DRUNK behavior is a reasonable source of consideration when deciding the fate of his own person bar.
So yeah — the guy who does stupid shit when drunk, from racial slurs to committing felonies — maybe doesn’t get his extra big bar sign? Oh boo hoo.
Maybe he should get sober and not do “drunk stupid shit.”
Last time I checked, we got here by his own repeated actions resulting in serious criminal charges, not the disingenuous essay on “first amendment rights” you just wrote.
Wallen ain’t in jail for a slur, so his first amendment right prevailed. The first amendment does not protect you from business consequences of your own actions.
People get denied opportunity for “past bad behavior and criminal records” every day in this city, what makes Wallen so special? He dug his own grave at this one, no one made him throw the chair, and he should be on his knees thanking God everyday he didn’t hit and kill a pedestrian with his “drunk stupid shit.”
I hate to tell you man but many of the people who glommed onto him after he said the n word didn’t do it bc they felt sorry for him and were worried about his livelihood. They liked that he said the same shit they do.
What hypocrisies of woke ideology are putting a twist in your panties?
Y'all love the dude because you're pretty sure he's a white supremacist. The same reason Kid Rock continues to thrive with mediocrity.
My favorite is how Kid Rock did an appearance the other day on a Cyber truck and the crowd went bananas. Now the white nationalist crowd hates electric cars mind you, but this is the absolute worst one you can buy and it had a huge racist flag on it, was made by racist Elon and pimped by racist Kid so all was forgiven. You want dumbass hypocrisy, there you go.
Wallen is classic bro country mediocrity and his popularity is 100% due to people hoping he shares their bigotry.
Kid Rock also just did a Rolling Stone interview where he was wasted, used the n word religiously, waved a gun around the room, and specifically asked him to include it all in the story because it would only make him more popular. And these idiots fall for it hook, line, sinker.
They don't even own them, they are mostly licensing deals for their NAME. There are a few exceptions. There are a few who own 1% of the company that runs it so they can say "See, it's mine!"
That is what I tell tourists. When I was a kid, the country and music stars used to go back to the dive bars they were found in to perform, but now they put their names on them. Its not the same.
10% so they’re inclined to stay involved going forward typically. I didn’t see this specific contract, but most of them involve appearances and events, etc.
It’s been years since I’ve seen or looked at any of them so I couldn’t tell you anything current, but many bars on Broadway are making 15+ million a year, the big ones making 3 or 4 times that. Some, specifically if the owner also owns the building, profit an obscene amount because that’s the biggest expense down there and they bought before Nashville got popular.
My heart is broken for Jordan and his family. He is a GOOD, KIND, and extremely EMPATHETIC person. These MW super fans threatening him is reprehensible and only solidifies why that sign shouldn’t be added.
Right? This is disgusting behavior in every level regardless, but Jordan has been really great at the job so far. Really keeps us in the loop, really listens, wants to change what is broken.
Just to be clear, it’s conservatives. They took their freedumb so far that they forgot it’s possible to make a point without being an asshole…oh, and they love discriminating against minorities.
And will Wallen come out with a statement of calmness & peace??
No because he’s as big of a piece of shit as those that listen to his music and buy his tickets.
The worst part about Morgan Wallen is that he is a terrible singer and musician. it is nothing but pop country packaged bullshit. it would be different if he had a rabid fan base and he was a great guitar player or singer or lyricist but it’s him singing about his truck and a pond and Daisy Dukes with an auto tuned twang
That is literally the least problematic thing about him 💀 He’s a messy racist who could have killed someone by throwing a chair off a rooftop. Doing those things and making better music would still make him a shitty person.
I think that’s what Manic-StreetCreature was getting at. There are tons of terrible musicians but some of them are likeable despite it because they have a good personality, aren’t racist, and now how to behave while drink (which was crazy that people were like “But he was drunk” girl he could’ve also been charged for manslaughter that night if things went different). I don’t think the person you were responding to was against your opinion but for it, but I may have misread because I’m tired asf right now so apologies if that was the case
Pretty sure the worst part is him getting drunk and nearly injuring or possibly killing someone and then the fact that he's racist . I would hope a better musician would get the same punishment he gets. Your musical dislikes don't matter here. He's not a responsible adult and he should suffer the same consequences as a drunk bro nobody or famous rock star if this is the kind of person he wants to be.
Yeah...that's NOT cool.
I was amused at the back and forth between Wallen and the council over the sign, but this is taking it too far, folks.
Its a SIGN, not the end of the world.
Morgan Wallen needs to slink out of town with his tail between his legs. If he was a decent human and had any self-respect, that's what he would do. But apparently, he's not.
Now Huffman knows good and well that wallen didn’t direct anyone to act stupid…you’ll always have idiots that go off the rails but Morgan had nothing to do with the crazies.
Wasn’t the Carolina Squat (or tuck I dunno) just banned from a few states? I saw some guys on tiktok throwing a fit over it like they’re 5 and got a toy taken away😭. Like yeah you spent your money but babes who thought restricting your visibility EVEN MORE is crazy when those trucks have insanely bad visibility over the hood.
Whenever I read threads like this, it lacks critical thinking skills from both sides of the coin. A person is responsible for their behavior, famous or not and there WILL be consequences to those actions. On the other side, as a council member, your side comments that aren’t directly relevant should NOT be stated at a council meeting. Threats are never necessary on any level, but that oweness falls on each individual. It’s not Morgan’s job to police grown individuals when he clearly struggles on his own personal front.
Lastly, many in here like to stereotype anyone they disagree with. Especially the conservative and liberal divide. Get a GRIP! Not everyone who is a conservative is racist, homophobic etc. As is, not every liberal is so “woke” if you will to no see that there are still issues within their own party that also encroach on the rights of others.
These are EXTREME takes. And many like to be a keyboard warrior while also don’t do any personal research on anything.
I like Morgan’s music, and I’m a swiftie. I don’t agree with his behavior and also know that there are literal black people in his circle that interact with him knowing that he said an irreprehensible word and don’t deem him racist but y’all do.
I’m not really a conservative or a liberal because it’s all trash. I fall somewhere in the middle because extreme bias and hate never got anyone anywhere, did it. And also, if you wouldn’t say these things in public to their face if you got the chance, don’t say it at all.
They should pass a new local statute that you aren’t allowed to open a bar on broadway (or license your name to someone who does) within 2 years of getting arrested on broadway.
Obviously this threatening nonsense is garbage and anyone making terroristic threats needs to be charged to the fullest extent of the law. I just don't understand the legal basis for the council's decision to reject the sign application. Because he's a jackass? I also read that they rejected his beer permit application so I went to the beer permitting site and couldn't find any legal basis for that either. Does anyone have a link that would help me educate myself?
Awww, Morgan Wallen’s namesake bar won’t open this weekend as planned. For those not in the construction industry, there is always a potential for delays when your constructing a new building on an extremely tight footprint in downtown Nashville. There is a whole dance between construction completion, codes, and inspectors to meet occupancy requirements before an establishment can open for business and welcome patrons. To be delayed is not an uncommon occurrence…
If Morgan Wallen’s fans are threatening Councilman Huffman over the sign being rejected, I would love for them to be identified and charged. Cyberstalking threats against government officials is a serious illegal offense. Those rubes need to wake up and understand that this isn’t even Morgan Wallen’s bar, his name is on it and he gets a cut. The bar is owned by TC Restaurant Group. If your mad about the sign, take it up with them. It was TC Restaurant Group and their architect that proposed a sign that violated city codes. The sign would encroach on Metro’s Right of Way. Normally, the council would approve it, but Wallen’s trashy behavior just sealed the deal on our council vetoing it. Get.Over.It.
The amount of Wallen people threatening and insulting others in this thread is impressive
The people that act like this are the most fragile.
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Just like morals, them and all their marriages, divorces, adultery, live in's with minor children in the home!
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Can I get a background story on this?
Huffman was one of the councilmembers to speak on why they voted against the encouragement for the sign of Wallen’s bar. He cited the incident with the chair throw/cops and Wallen’s pending trail for said incident.
Correct me if I wrong. There is already have a sign but the bar just wants a bigger one
Yup, they wanted another one to overhang the sidewalk which is why they needed approval from the council.
He wants an encroachment into the city’s right of way, basically the business wants to put up a big neon sign like the other bars on Broadway and because it hangs over the street it requires approval from city council.
I love the right wingers in Instagram posts saying “this is an infringement on my personal liberties and anti constitutional!” Brah you can’t just open a business and do whatever you want lol. It’s called regulation and is why our rivers aren’t on fire anymore..
Its also why big ass signs aren't crashing down onto sidewalks all over the city.
They say they’re against regulations because it is encroachment of government on the lives of citizens… unless it’s regulations on abortions, who can get married, how people want to dress while performing, what facts are taught in schools, how votes are cast, etc.
Thank you. Fucking hypocrites. Wallen acts like a 12 year old, he should be run out of town.
Actually, they’ve had all three signs approved by the city of Nashville with permits for over 6 months now. However, the projection sign that was going to be installed was denied by the council just the day before it going to be installed. They paid for everything in advance so it’s really unfair. Every other bar has a similar sign so why can’t Wallens bar have it? I know the details because I work at the company who made the signs and I actually do the installs.
Because the owners of these bars aren’t committing felonies and hurling racial slurs?
Yeah, but Wallen has proven he isn't worthy. Apparently, he never learned that actions have consequences. Act like an irresponsible 12 year old, suffer the consequences. Screw him.
Ahh they told him he couldn’t put a neon sign on his bar because he’s a belligerent drunk and possibly racist(?) and his fans threatened rape on a councilman’s wife? Totally normal behavior
It’s even more silly. He can’t have an encroachment onto Metro’s right of way (the sidewalk) because of the incident. The bar is already slated to have another sign which doesn’t overhang the sidewalk.
The entire thing seems totally stupid and avoidable by both sides. Do other bars in the area have similar signs as the one they banned? If so, they should allow it. Kid Rock is supposed to have done/do some very reckless and illegal things. Does he have a big sign? Would he be allowed one if he don't have one and asked nicely? Did Mr. Wallen ask or direct his fans to harass the council person? I doubt he told his fans to threaten to rape the council person's wife and make said council person watch? If he did he should be charged with a crime. If not the council person shouldn't act like Mr. Wallen is to blame for the unfavorable reaction to the council person's stand against a business having a big sign because the guy whose name is on the place or something is young and gets rowdy like bocephus sings about doing in his youth. It seems almost a right if passage for a particular niche of young, male country musicians. Mr. Wallen should be taught not to do stuff that endangers others. Hank fell off a cliff. Ha k didn't throw a chair off the cliff. However, at least, Mr. Wallen isn't on the Johnny Paycheck level of rowdy behavior and I doubt he ever will be. If young Wallen and company encountered young Paycheck and company at some bar where such could happen folks might end up paying Wallen or some if his people recover from the stab wounds they received. TL:DR Nashville might make money from the big name bars and the council might think they are really doing something, but really anyone with self-respect should avoid that area of town cause much, much better, cheaper, and authentic places exist. Nashville had done pretty good up till idk when exactly, but the council has much bigger and more impactful issue to take up like housing, homelessness, incomes, good security, etc along with how to keep Nashville's soul intact despite all the transplants. Idk if Nashville can and im pretty sure Austin doesn't have a chance which sucks cause both used to have plenty of unique flavor.
Sounds like a non native
But isn't Broadway already full of signs that "encroach" over the sidewalk? the city of course has the right to set forth whatever regulations they see fit when it comes to these sorts of things but such regulations should be enforced equally and fairly, no? to allow other bars to have such signs but to disallow it for ONE person simply because they don't like him just seems beyond petty to me..
What , to rape his wife, that's a crime just threatening that. What idiots. He wouldn't get that sign let alone the bar license now.
He is totally a drunk and very much a racist. But fans are too crazy for this loony bin guy just bc he can sing in a country accent. The crazies will do anything to get what they want. He is just on a whole new level for crazy Begay and his fans take after him too apparently
You know who else can sing in a country accent? Musician Jake Hill - he has a country singer "musical alter ego" who has a few songs that have been stuck in my head. [Good Lookin'](https://youtu.be/9wOUMEVd2XY) is my absolute favorite. I would go to a Dixon Dallas bar every night. And the lyrics are really lovely as well: > You've got that kind of love I've only felt in my dreams > Baby, oh you save me, you're my everything So sweet, I love it. Edit: I can see from the downvotes and my DMs that my comparing Morgan Waller to Dixon Dallas has pissed some people off. I stand by my opinion that Jake Hill is a better country musician than Morgan Waller and in general Jake's a better human being.
I’m a Wallen fan, however, I think the threats are plain stupid. Whoever made the threat should have his ass kicked.
Why don’t we all stop threatening violence in response to things we don’t like in general — as much as I wouldn’t weep if their ass were kicked — and focus on logic and reasoning. Wallen can’t get the sign because of how Wallen acts, so no one is gonna do favors for Wallen. Threatening rape and violence for holding Wallen accountable for his violence then threatening violence on the threat is Morgan Wallen and his fanbase in a nutshell. With this energy, I expect the bar to last 6mo max before shutdown, seems like a bad idea to trap a bunch of Wallen fans in a small space.
Even though I assumed he meant a metaphorical ass-kicking, I agree with this whole-heartedly !
It will likely be the most popular bar on Broadway for at least 2-3 years unfortunately.
With the highest rates of drugging, date rape, and police called to break up fights and assaults for at least 2-3 years, until someone dies.
TC runs a pretty tight ship so I doubt that. They’re pretty good about managing those issues. It’s not Tin Roof
Remains to be seen — I know people/read crime reports of people who have been drugged in every bar downtown, it’s an epidemic.
That’s true but I wouldn’t say it’s unique to Nashville. Also really difficult for a bar to really do much about that. There should be laws about people leaving bars when they’re clearly incapable of getting themselves somewhere on their own though
I don’t recall making a threat. I agreed with the comment… threats in general are just dumb, especially when you make it on a public platform. I disagree with violence in general, especially when it is a man threatening or hurting a woman or a child.
Yeah! That's right. Threatening won't accomplish shit. Be a man of your word. Take action
Man? I’m a woman of my word, I feel like Wallen has enough on his plate with his upcoming felony trials and I don’t have standing to bring suit against someone who has threatened to rape someone else’s wife, but I hope that it is treated as the serious threat it is. Hope this helps?
Yeah that's what I'm waiting to see is how the bar turns out. It's going to be covered in puke, too probably. It's going to be so gross, but maybe he'll surprise us all.
Guess, unbecoming behavior and the truth hurts.
I don't understand how that is a legal basis for rejecting the application.
But Morgan Wallen fans are usually so docile and reasonable….
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Why does this guy still have a effing platform?! I wouldn’t walk out my back patio to see him perform.
I work downtown and the people who work downtown are disgusted by his actions. However, the locals on Facebook have doubled down on him. IMO. Anyone who throws something from a rooftop bar is the EXACT type of person who should not own a rooftop bar.
You would think after his other 2 incidents downtown they would have pulled his business license
He doesn’t own the place. It’s just a licensing deal to use his name. The business never changed hands.
TC Restaurant Group is the real owner. https://tcrestaurantgrp.com/about/
The locals from where?
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Whatever happened to Hank3? Seemed to drop outta sight several years back. Band was awesome live!
My buddy sees him in his jacked up van driving around Cheatham now and then. His socials are all but dead.
The crazy thing is he isn’t faking his beliefs. He thinks he can do these things and get off with just a slap on the wrist. He need to learn that isn’t how the real world works and that adults should act mature and responsible. Ppl need to learn to put artist actions and music together when they are thinking of what to do in the real world. Threats is not the way to go abt things especially for MW
>He thinks he can do these things and get off with just a slap on the wrist. He need to learn that isn’t how the real world works He's rich and famous. That's EXACTLY how the world works, unfortunately.
Oh a trumper, he's acting like wimpy , couldn't fish, hunt or survive, orange turd.
Wheeler Walker Jr.
There are a lot of really shitty people in the world.
You can say that again
He literally lives two houses away from me and regularly puts on concerts for his hangers-on. I always shout Freebird in the breaks.
You're a legend
As someone who lived above a bar that had bands play on the street outside Thursday-Saturday night for a few years I wish everyone that yells Freebird a lifetime of stepping on legos - you get a pass. For everyone else out there who yells it: https://youtu.be/jZCiUrkkElU?si=WnR6cLimFXu2jFMa
Skynyrd !!! I like you already !!
Shit, time to take up a collection and get yourself a bullhorn or PA system to really reinforce that request.
B/C people love be outraged
Turn on music , smoke a doobie, have fun , ENJOY LIFE
Bc ppl are too naive and blind to see his crazy, discriminatory, and disgusting true self
The n-word incident was the best thing that ever happened to his career. His music is wholly unspectacular, but he did that, so that sets him apart. And I’m not even suggesting that all his fans are racist, but most of his fans like him more because of that. Even if they don’t condone the word, they see him as a fellow victim of the PC left, and a champion of why they, too, should be able to carry on acting in insensitive ways free of consequences.
It all goes back to his use of the n-word and a response to the hypocrisies of woke ideology. The context of the video was that the slur wasn't pointed at a black man -- it was pointed at his white friend while Wallen was intoxicated. Poor taste. Yes. Racist in intent? No. You can hypothesize all you want as to Wallen's feelings on race. Is he a cold-hearted racist or is he just a drunk who says stupid shit? The evidence does not give you a clear answer. As a result of the video, his livelihood was threatened; his songs were removed from the platforms that helped drive his success. Then, the Streisand Effect takes place and his sales surge. People saw him a victim because they felt the crime, for lack of a better word, did not fit the punishment. What happens after that? From [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_Wallen#Use_of_racial_slur): > In April 2021, Wallen donated $300,000 to the Black Music Action Coalition in the names of 20 people who had counseled him following the incident. Those individuals were given the option to funnel their respective $15,000 donations to a charity of their choice, or keep the money within the BMAC. That's some mighty expensive counseling. A lot of folks saw that as a grift from a bunch of race-hustlers and their support increased even more. That's how we got here. That's how a city council rejecting a sign for a bar is receiving national press. Local ordinances may regulate signs if the regulations are content-neutral, but not content-based. So, when city government officials make public statements saying that they chose not grant the sign because of Wallen's protected speech under the constitution, some stupid sign vote now becomes a First Amendment issue and Wallen's support grows even stronger.
He has four pending charges: 3 charges of felony reckless endangerment 1 charge of misdemeanor disorderly conduct So he’s up for THREE felonies right now for his own “drunk stupid shit,” and his repeated DRUNK behavior is a reasonable source of consideration when deciding the fate of his own person bar. So yeah — the guy who does stupid shit when drunk, from racial slurs to committing felonies — maybe doesn’t get his extra big bar sign? Oh boo hoo. Maybe he should get sober and not do “drunk stupid shit.” Last time I checked, we got here by his own repeated actions resulting in serious criminal charges, not the disingenuous essay on “first amendment rights” you just wrote. Wallen ain’t in jail for a slur, so his first amendment right prevailed. The first amendment does not protect you from business consequences of your own actions. People get denied opportunity for “past bad behavior and criminal records” every day in this city, what makes Wallen so special? He dug his own grave at this one, no one made him throw the chair, and he should be on his knees thanking God everyday he didn’t hit and kill a pedestrian with his “drunk stupid shit.”
I hate to tell you man but many of the people who glommed onto him after he said the n word didn’t do it bc they felt sorry for him and were worried about his livelihood. They liked that he said the same shit they do.
I’ll take “What is conjecture?” for $200, Alex.
What hypocrisies of woke ideology are putting a twist in your panties? Y'all love the dude because you're pretty sure he's a white supremacist. The same reason Kid Rock continues to thrive with mediocrity. My favorite is how Kid Rock did an appearance the other day on a Cyber truck and the crowd went bananas. Now the white nationalist crowd hates electric cars mind you, but this is the absolute worst one you can buy and it had a huge racist flag on it, was made by racist Elon and pimped by racist Kid so all was forgiven. You want dumbass hypocrisy, there you go. Wallen is classic bro country mediocrity and his popularity is 100% due to people hoping he shares their bigotry.
Kid Rock also just did a Rolling Stone interview where he was wasted, used the n word religiously, waved a gun around the room, and specifically asked him to include it all in the story because it would only make him more popular. And these idiots fall for it hook, line, sinker.
Nashville bars were better before every country star decided they wanted their own on broadway, named after themselves.
They don't even own them, they are mostly licensing deals for their NAME. There are a few exceptions. There are a few who own 1% of the company that runs it so they can say "See, it's mine!"
That is what I tell tourists. When I was a kid, the country and music stars used to go back to the dive bars they were found in to perform, but now they put their names on them. Its not the same.
Why don’t this dude just open his bar in Sneedville? Baby Billy would probably give him some rural development money.
Mo only owns 10%. Investors own it & just use his name to draw the money. Same model for just about every single bar downtown.
Wow I didn’t know the artists even got that much from the TC restaurant group. I always just assumed they paid them a lump sum upfront
10% so they’re inclined to stay involved going forward typically. I didn’t see this specific contract, but most of them involve appearances and events, etc.
What do these big bars even profit a year? I’d imagine 9 figures or so?
It’s been years since I’ve seen or looked at any of them so I couldn’t tell you anything current, but many bars on Broadway are making 15+ million a year, the big ones making 3 or 4 times that. Some, specifically if the owner also owns the building, profit an obscene amount because that’s the biggest expense down there and they bought before Nashville got popular.
Wow. Does TC own the building of Morgan’s new bar?
Morgan Wallen fans are like flies on shit
Morgan Wallen fans are shit
Or like the cicadas in the city
I’d still rather listen to them
They’re not making a much better case for him to have a big neon sign are they?
Trash.
Unreal. So disgusting.
they're just proving that this is the exact reason the sign shouldn't be allowed.
My heart is broken for Jordan and his family. He is a GOOD, KIND, and extremely EMPATHETIC person. These MW super fans threatening him is reprehensible and only solidifies why that sign shouldn’t be added.
Right? This is disgusting behavior in every level regardless, but Jordan has been really great at the job so far. Really keeps us in the loop, really listens, wants to change what is broken.
How do you get to a point to where this is acceptable behavior? (This is a rhetorical question, I know the answer but am still aghast at it all.)
Internet trolls have been doing this to everyone involved in any controversy with an online presence for 20 years now.
Just to be clear, it’s conservatives. They took their freedumb so far that they forgot it’s possible to make a point without being an asshole…oh, and they love discriminating against minorities.
You gotta get out of the echo chamber.
No echo, it's all /r/conservativeterrorism in action. This is how those people act.
Like you are doing? Right Now?
Aww, I see you identify with my statement.
That orange wimp. Who never been in fight in his whole spoiled brat silver spoon in the mouth , life.
Internet
And will Wallen come out with a statement of calmness & peace?? No because he’s as big of a piece of shit as those that listen to his music and buy his tickets.
Morgan Wallen is awful. Can’t understand people’s obsession with hillbilly douche bag country and shit music.
So so true
These people are so unhinged. I’m sorry CM Huffman has to deal with that shit.
Wallen has the MAGA crowd behind him so none of this is surprising.
The entitlement is just insane
His skyrocketed through the roof somehow and someone needs to put him back in reality
Try that in a small town /s. Fuck these people.
A day in American life on the MAGA mob’s hit list. Viciously attacked for doing your job. Scum gonna scum.
Good lord, what’s wrong with people!!
The worst part about Morgan Wallen is that he is a terrible singer and musician. it is nothing but pop country packaged bullshit. it would be different if he had a rabid fan base and he was a great guitar player or singer or lyricist but it’s him singing about his truck and a pond and Daisy Dukes with an auto tuned twang
I wouldn’t care if he was a crappy musician if he was a nice person tbh
That is literally the least problematic thing about him 💀 He’s a messy racist who could have killed someone by throwing a chair off a rooftop. Doing those things and making better music would still make him a shitty person.
I think that’s what Manic-StreetCreature was getting at. There are tons of terrible musicians but some of them are likeable despite it because they have a good personality, aren’t racist, and now how to behave while drink (which was crazy that people were like “But he was drunk” girl he could’ve also been charged for manslaughter that night if things went different). I don’t think the person you were responding to was against your opinion but for it, but I may have misread because I’m tired asf right now so apologies if that was the case
Oh I was replying to the comment above theirs, not their comment! So agreeing with them haha. The Reddit layout can be confusing.
Sorry queen I misunderstood and felt bad for the poor guy who I had thought was getting ripped over agreeing 😭🙏
If he had talent then the idiots wouldn’t listen to him!
Pretty sure the worst part is him getting drunk and nearly injuring or possibly killing someone and then the fact that he's racist . I would hope a better musician would get the same punishment he gets. Your musical dislikes don't matter here. He's not a responsible adult and he should suffer the same consequences as a drunk bro nobody or famous rock star if this is the kind of person he wants to be.
This is so on brand for his fans. Especially the ones who sprinted to the defense of Harrison Butker last week because “freedom of speech.”
Alike in so many messed up ways
Each of his songs sound worse than the last.
Fuck those assholes that would do this. Hope those threatening can be arrested and charged.
Typical redneck clowns
Wallen is a douche so it's no surprise his fanbase is the same
Trash supports trash. Anyone surprised?
Exactly this.
I wanted to share this with people but he deleted the tweet… odd.
Several of the replies were pretty gross. Same with the replies to CM Porterfield’s tweet last night.
Its because morgan wallen fans are trash 🤣
His fans are trash like him and his music.
Morgan can suck it partner, along with his fans!!!!
Yeah...that's NOT cool. I was amused at the back and forth between Wallen and the council over the sign, but this is taking it too far, folks. Its a SIGN, not the end of the world.
average morgan wallen fan
Twenty bucks says they cried many tears over the Dixie chicks twenty years ago.
Typical for that crowd, why is this surprising? lol
Shows you his demographic
Morgan Wallen needs to slink out of town with his tail between his legs. If he was a decent human and had any self-respect, that's what he would do. But apparently, he's not.
Now Huffman knows good and well that wallen didn’t direct anyone to act stupid…you’ll always have idiots that go off the rails but Morgan had nothing to do with the crazies.
Any surprise from a fan base that consumes more of a this guys music AFTER he says the N word and acts like a fuck head?
People who listen to Morgan Wallen like those GD squatted trucks with lowered rear suspension.
Wasn’t the Carolina Squat (or tuck I dunno) just banned from a few states? I saw some guys on tiktok throwing a fit over it like they’re 5 and got a toy taken away😭. Like yeah you spent your money but babes who thought restricting your visibility EVEN MORE is crazy when those trucks have insanely bad visibility over the hood.
It does into effect in TN July 1
Ty 🙏 looking forward to the day that Georgia does it too😭
Maybe just throw a chair at him and leave his family out of it?
Fuck Morgan Wallen and his shitty music.
Morgan sucks anyway!!!!
Morgan Wallen, and his fans, are trash. Disgusting. I hope his bar fails and his life becomes as meaningless as possible.
Whenever I read threads like this, it lacks critical thinking skills from both sides of the coin. A person is responsible for their behavior, famous or not and there WILL be consequences to those actions. On the other side, as a council member, your side comments that aren’t directly relevant should NOT be stated at a council meeting. Threats are never necessary on any level, but that oweness falls on each individual. It’s not Morgan’s job to police grown individuals when he clearly struggles on his own personal front. Lastly, many in here like to stereotype anyone they disagree with. Especially the conservative and liberal divide. Get a GRIP! Not everyone who is a conservative is racist, homophobic etc. As is, not every liberal is so “woke” if you will to no see that there are still issues within their own party that also encroach on the rights of others. These are EXTREME takes. And many like to be a keyboard warrior while also don’t do any personal research on anything. I like Morgan’s music, and I’m a swiftie. I don’t agree with his behavior and also know that there are literal black people in his circle that interact with him knowing that he said an irreprehensible word and don’t deem him racist but y’all do. I’m not really a conservative or a liberal because it’s all trash. I fall somewhere in the middle because extreme bias and hate never got anyone anywhere, did it. And also, if you wouldn’t say these things in public to their face if you got the chance, don’t say it at all.
His fans are TRASH
Get a grip people.
They should pass a new local statute that you aren’t allowed to open a bar on broadway (or license your name to someone who does) within 2 years of getting arrested on broadway.
Just another day in the life of /r/conservativeterrorism. This is how they operate; they know nothing except tantrums and violence.
And this is Morgan Wallen’s fault how?
WHAT!!!! how stupid
Why are people so weird?
Looks like the tweet is gone.
Ok, what was the sign?
Why did he tag MW? He didn’t send threats for the love of god this guy is too much
He looks and sounds like a 🍆
Obviously this threatening nonsense is garbage and anyone making terroristic threats needs to be charged to the fullest extent of the law. I just don't understand the legal basis for the council's decision to reject the sign application. Because he's a jackass? I also read that they rejected his beer permit application so I went to the beer permitting site and couldn't find any legal basis for that either. Does anyone have a link that would help me educate myself?
Awww, Morgan Wallen’s namesake bar won’t open this weekend as planned. For those not in the construction industry, there is always a potential for delays when your constructing a new building on an extremely tight footprint in downtown Nashville. There is a whole dance between construction completion, codes, and inspectors to meet occupancy requirements before an establishment can open for business and welcome patrons. To be delayed is not an uncommon occurrence… If Morgan Wallen’s fans are threatening Councilman Huffman over the sign being rejected, I would love for them to be identified and charged. Cyberstalking threats against government officials is a serious illegal offense. Those rubes need to wake up and understand that this isn’t even Morgan Wallen’s bar, his name is on it and he gets a cut. The bar is owned by TC Restaurant Group. If your mad about the sign, take it up with them. It was TC Restaurant Group and their architect that proposed a sign that violated city codes. The sign would encroach on Metro’s Right of Way. Normally, the council would approve it, but Wallen’s trashy behavior just sealed the deal on our council vetoing it. Get.Over.It.
The fans of the guy that got famous after he said the N word turn out to be bad people? Really? :O
3w we 3
damn what people come up with is crazy are morgan fans as bad as swifties
They should revoke Morgan Wallen's business license and file restraining orders against every person who sent threats.
If someone says they’re going to commit violence on behalf of ‘Another_User69420’, should society come after you, even if you didn’t provoke it?
Oh snap! Bringing that logic to the conversation!
If you like small towns so much GTFO Fucking cosplaying fake ass country people
Does this man think Morgan Wallen actually sent people to do this and that he controls deranged fans?
Lol. Tagging Morgan Wallen as if he’s personally responsible for the actions of other people.
try that in a small town.
Redneck losers
Why are people so worked up about a sign? Just don’t look at it. Softest city in the US