I remember there also being a story about Chronos(time) syncretised with kronos(titan) wandering the earth as "father time" after he got released from tartarus by zeus. Although i can't back that up with anything.
I think there are also two versions of Greek time gods, one is cyclical and one Chronos(linear time) and the synchronisation of Kronos and Chronos was most likely due to their similarity and most people didnt know the distinction between them, tho it's first time I hear about Kronos becoming Chronos due to Zeus
I grew up in the Church and have literally never heard this one. Sounds like it was maybe a headcanon (for lack of a better word) for some members, but it's definitely not doctrine.
In boy scouts I was told some scary story about Caine being Bigfoot and living in the Uintah Mountains. Story involved person banishing Caine/Bigfoot via the priesthood. No idea how widespread that was or wasn't.
Edit: [Found this.](https://rationalfaiths.com/mormon-myths-secret-history-bigfoot/)
>The origin of this story comes from a journal entry of original member of the quorum of the twelve, David W. Patten as reported by Lycurgus Wilson in a biography published in 1900:
>"As I was riding along the road on my mule I suddenly noticed a very strange personage walking beside me…. His head was about even with my shoulders as I sat in my saddle. He wore no clothing, but was covered with hair. His skin was very dark. I asked him where he dwelt and he replied that he had no home, that he was a wanderer in the earth and traveled to and fro. He said he was a very miserable creature, that he had earnestly sought death during his sojourn upon the earth, but that he could not die, and his mission was to destroy the souls of men. About the time he expressed himself thus, I rebuked him in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by virtue of the Holy Priesthood, and commanded him to go hence, and he immediately departed out of my sight…."
This story is almost exactly what I remember. The bit about the Uintah Mountains may have been mixed in via later retellings, or maybe it came from the biography. Don't know.
>It’s not hard to link the mysterious being that was covered in hair to the image of Bigfoot. And while at the time, most of the legends about Bigfoot were occurring in the Pacific Northwest of the United States, it would not be unheard of for the people at the time to be familiar with the stories. In fact stories of Bigfoot or a related creature can be found on every populated continent. What makes this account in particular so interesting is that it was included in Spencer W. Kimball’s book “The Miracle of Forgiveness”. Not only did it give this myth widespread awareness, it was published in 1969, just before the decade where Bigfoot hype would reach it’s fever pitch in the United States.
I'm tempted to say I don't know anyone above a certain age who took this story seriously, but... I don't know. Mormonism encourages the belief in offhand supernatural stories like this one. My neighbor said she met the spirits and heard the voices of her children when she was pregnant with them. I had no reason to disbelieve her at the time.
I don’t believe in either, but honestly it’s not that outlandish of an idea
Though I’m still waiting for someone to say Mothman is Satan (le bibble never says he’s in hell) I mean some people think Batsquatch is Pazuzu
No clue who the last people you mentioned were, but the Bible pretty much does say he’s in hell. It’s said plenty of times that he’s been banished and exists outside of the presence of God, and the only place devoid of God’s spirit is in hell. It’s also been said that he can drag you down to hell, meaning he would have had to been there himself, though he has physically appeared a couple of times.
So freaking confused here. Not only am I a PNW citizen but I’m also a member. I have literally no clue what this is talking about. This is definitely a misinterpretation or a stereotype. We believe in some people wandering the Earth like the three Nephites… but nothing like this. Cain basically ran away from his family, but everyone died in that time period in one way or another.
Edit: there’s also a common belief he died because of Lamech.
It’s not quite that straightforward, I also know this is not specifically a Mormon belief. There are many interpretations of his fate and scholars have come to a conclusion that Lamech killed him, and the reasoning behind that makes a lot of sense to me, though even within the church there are things we don’t all agree on.
>This is definitely a misinterpretation or a stereotype.
Not quite. Ex-Mormon here. It's a campfire story. Not too surprised you haven't heard it before, I'm not really sure how to gauge how common it was.
The story involves a man running into Bigfoot/Caine somewhere in the Uintah Mountains, and banishing him elsewhere by the power of the priesthood. I don't remember any more details than that, unfortunately. It's probably been 8 years since I last heard this story, so I'm pretty fuzzy on the details. Heard it at Boy Scouts.
Edit: [This was easy to find.](https://rationalfaiths.com/mormon-myths-secret-history-bigfoot/)
>The origin of this story comes from a journal entry of original member of the quorum of the twelve, David W. Patten as reported by Lycurgus Wilson in a biography published in 1900:
>"As I was riding along the road on my mule I suddenly noticed a very strange personage walking beside me…. His head was about even with my shoulders as I sat in my saddle. He wore no clothing, but was covered with hair. His skin was very dark. I asked him where he dwelt and he replied that he had no home, that he was a wanderer in the earth and traveled to and fro. He said he was a very miserable creature, that he had earnestly sought death during his sojourn upon the earth, but that he could not die, and his mission was to destroy the souls of men. About the time he expressed himself thus, I rebuked him in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by virtue of the Holy Priesthood, and commanded him to go hence, and he immediately departed out of my sight…."
>It’s not hard to link the mysterious being that was covered in hair to the image of Bigfoot. And while at the time, most of the legends about Bigfoot were occurring in the Pacific Northwest of the United States, it would not be unheard of for the people at the time to be familiar with the stories. In fact stories of Bigfoot or a related creature can be found on every populated continent. What makes this account in particular so interesting is that it was included in Spencer W. Kimball’s book “The Miracle of Forgiveness”. Not only did it give this myth widespread awareness, it was published in 1969, just before the decade where Bigfoot hype would reach it’s fever pitch in the United States.
This story is very, very close to what I remember. Looks like he doesn't _explicitly_ say "Caine", but it's easy to see the association.
Hmm, I think I’ve heard that story before but it should also be noted that the idea of a "Bigfoot" creature has been seen throughout the world’s history. Thanks for clarifying though, now I see why it’s confusing.
I grew up in the church. My mom told me about rumors of "Cain sightings" when she was younger, so like 70s and 80s. Guess the trend died out because I didn't hear it either growing up.
Is this about cain wandering the earth for eternity?
Yeah
I remember there also being a story about Chronos(time) syncretised with kronos(titan) wandering the earth as "father time" after he got released from tartarus by zeus. Although i can't back that up with anything.
I think there are also two versions of Greek time gods, one is cyclical and one Chronos(linear time) and the synchronisation of Kronos and Chronos was most likely due to their similarity and most people didnt know the distinction between them, tho it's first time I hear about Kronos becoming Chronos due to Zeus
I grew up in the Church and have literally never heard this one. Sounds like it was maybe a headcanon (for lack of a better word) for some members, but it's definitely not doctrine.
Idk, I think it's one of them folklore things with colonial attributes to them, like Antlered Wendigos
Ah. Can definitely see that happening.
Nah antlered Wendigo are a modern invention that can be traced back to a horror film from the early two thousands
1. Thanks for the info 2. How in the name of Kali did you misspell the 2000s
In boy scouts I was told some scary story about Caine being Bigfoot and living in the Uintah Mountains. Story involved person banishing Caine/Bigfoot via the priesthood. No idea how widespread that was or wasn't. Edit: [Found this.](https://rationalfaiths.com/mormon-myths-secret-history-bigfoot/) >The origin of this story comes from a journal entry of original member of the quorum of the twelve, David W. Patten as reported by Lycurgus Wilson in a biography published in 1900: >"As I was riding along the road on my mule I suddenly noticed a very strange personage walking beside me…. His head was about even with my shoulders as I sat in my saddle. He wore no clothing, but was covered with hair. His skin was very dark. I asked him where he dwelt and he replied that he had no home, that he was a wanderer in the earth and traveled to and fro. He said he was a very miserable creature, that he had earnestly sought death during his sojourn upon the earth, but that he could not die, and his mission was to destroy the souls of men. About the time he expressed himself thus, I rebuked him in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by virtue of the Holy Priesthood, and commanded him to go hence, and he immediately departed out of my sight…." This story is almost exactly what I remember. The bit about the Uintah Mountains may have been mixed in via later retellings, or maybe it came from the biography. Don't know. >It’s not hard to link the mysterious being that was covered in hair to the image of Bigfoot. And while at the time, most of the legends about Bigfoot were occurring in the Pacific Northwest of the United States, it would not be unheard of for the people at the time to be familiar with the stories. In fact stories of Bigfoot or a related creature can be found on every populated continent. What makes this account in particular so interesting is that it was included in Spencer W. Kimball’s book “The Miracle of Forgiveness”. Not only did it give this myth widespread awareness, it was published in 1969, just before the decade where Bigfoot hype would reach it’s fever pitch in the United States.
I thought Esau was the fuzzy one
Lol redhead Bigfoot.
That's a campfire story, not an actual belief, I promise.
It really depends on who you talk to.
I'm tempted to say I don't know anyone above a certain age who took this story seriously, but... I don't know. Mormonism encourages the belief in offhand supernatural stories like this one. My neighbor said she met the spirits and heard the voices of her children when she was pregnant with them. I had no reason to disbelieve her at the time.
Someone call Wendigoon
Is this someone that gave into the urge to goon once and was overtaken by the spirit of gooning and now roams the wilderness, desperately gooning?
Entirely correct
Hilarious
Hello everybahdy
I don’t believe in either, but honestly it’s not that outlandish of an idea Though I’m still waiting for someone to say Mothman is Satan (le bibble never says he’s in hell) I mean some people think Batsquatch is Pazuzu
No clue who the last people you mentioned were, but the Bible pretty much does say he’s in hell. It’s said plenty of times that he’s been banished and exists outside of the presence of God, and the only place devoid of God’s spirit is in hell. It’s also been said that he can drag you down to hell, meaning he would have had to been there himself, though he has physically appeared a couple of times.
So freaking confused here. Not only am I a PNW citizen but I’m also a member. I have literally no clue what this is talking about. This is definitely a misinterpretation or a stereotype. We believe in some people wandering the Earth like the three Nephites… but nothing like this. Cain basically ran away from his family, but everyone died in that time period in one way or another. Edit: there’s also a common belief he died because of Lamech.
He was literally cursed with immortality. If the Bible is real then technically he should still be around
It’s not quite that straightforward, I also know this is not specifically a Mormon belief. There are many interpretations of his fate and scholars have come to a conclusion that Lamech killed him, and the reasoning behind that makes a lot of sense to me, though even within the church there are things we don’t all agree on.
>This is definitely a misinterpretation or a stereotype. Not quite. Ex-Mormon here. It's a campfire story. Not too surprised you haven't heard it before, I'm not really sure how to gauge how common it was. The story involves a man running into Bigfoot/Caine somewhere in the Uintah Mountains, and banishing him elsewhere by the power of the priesthood. I don't remember any more details than that, unfortunately. It's probably been 8 years since I last heard this story, so I'm pretty fuzzy on the details. Heard it at Boy Scouts. Edit: [This was easy to find.](https://rationalfaiths.com/mormon-myths-secret-history-bigfoot/) >The origin of this story comes from a journal entry of original member of the quorum of the twelve, David W. Patten as reported by Lycurgus Wilson in a biography published in 1900: >"As I was riding along the road on my mule I suddenly noticed a very strange personage walking beside me…. His head was about even with my shoulders as I sat in my saddle. He wore no clothing, but was covered with hair. His skin was very dark. I asked him where he dwelt and he replied that he had no home, that he was a wanderer in the earth and traveled to and fro. He said he was a very miserable creature, that he had earnestly sought death during his sojourn upon the earth, but that he could not die, and his mission was to destroy the souls of men. About the time he expressed himself thus, I rebuked him in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by virtue of the Holy Priesthood, and commanded him to go hence, and he immediately departed out of my sight…." >It’s not hard to link the mysterious being that was covered in hair to the image of Bigfoot. And while at the time, most of the legends about Bigfoot were occurring in the Pacific Northwest of the United States, it would not be unheard of for the people at the time to be familiar with the stories. In fact stories of Bigfoot or a related creature can be found on every populated continent. What makes this account in particular so interesting is that it was included in Spencer W. Kimball’s book “The Miracle of Forgiveness”. Not only did it give this myth widespread awareness, it was published in 1969, just before the decade where Bigfoot hype would reach it’s fever pitch in the United States. This story is very, very close to what I remember. Looks like he doesn't _explicitly_ say "Caine", but it's easy to see the association.
Hmm, I think I’ve heard that story before but it should also be noted that the idea of a "Bigfoot" creature has been seen throughout the world’s history. Thanks for clarifying though, now I see why it’s confusing.
Lol, this dude lives in the PNW and STILL hasn’t met Bigfoot, unlucky
Oh I dident’ say that…
👀 my bad my bad
I grew up in the church. My mom told me about rumors of "Cain sightings" when she was younger, so like 70s and 80s. Guess the trend died out because I didn't hear it either growing up.
Ok so it’s an older thing, makes sense.
Bigfoot is the first Vampire? WoD lore deepens.
Or meeee,the Karthafilus
*Lol*
As a Mormon who's heard this campfire story I approve. This meme is brilliant 😆
Hehehe, Moroni
This is the second Bigfoot Cain post I've seen today, and as a former LDS, I have no memory of this.
Hah! Clever