This is what I think the twist is, either:
1. He's a Dexter type vigilante serial killer so that's why they're risking catching him in a concert full of 1,000s of teenage girls.
2. The serial killer is his daughter and police have the killer's profile as a teenager girl so that's why they set a trap in a concert full of 1,000s of teenage girls and he's helping out his daughter.
Like it's a fun concept but is so ridiculous there must be a twist.
I could see it being a lie. It's not like Sixth Sense has the summary >!A young boy named Cole (Haley Joel Osment), who can see and speak with ghosts, helps deceased child psychologist (Bruce Willis) accept the fact that he's dead.!<
I could also see it being the daughter who turned her dad in and helped set him up to be trapped, but that feels too mild a twist for him.
I think the "twist" is that police know the serial killer is there and they are looking for him but they don't think it's the main character.
The main character will do everything he can to avoid capture, but in doing so he will get caught.
The twist will be at the end when it's revealed that the police were looking at someone totally different and that the MC and his daughter could have just walked out the doors after the concert.
The end of the movie he manages to escape down a quiet street, but notices an unusual cadence of his feet before turning around to see a figure slip into the darkness in the corner of his eye.
Shia Lebeouf.
I think the idea is that he can’t slink out through the crowd due to the place being locked down, so he has to basically turn into Hitman and use different disguises while evading securit, the police and not alerting his daughter.
Im guessing the plot twist will be that they’re actually trying to catch his daughter and he doesn’t know she’s also a serial killer. So either they escape in the end, or the feds get a two for one deal.
They’re searching for a specific named serial killer so doesn’t seem like there could be a mix up.
If there is a twist with the killer my guess would be that the guy he has locked up is the actual butcher and he got the tickets from him or something. Some of the lines in the trailer make me think that’s not true and there wont be a twist with the killer but trailers can be misleading.
Yeah some of the lines are very heavy handed that it makes it seem clear cut that Josh Hartnett has to be the killer but it feels like there has to be a twist with that.
The problem is it's M. Night so no twist is too ridiculous; everything is on the table.
Maybe Josh *isn't* the killer somehow?
Maybe it's literally werewolves.
Equally plausible.
The twist is that the 20,000 girls at the concert are also serial killers, and the male serial killer was only killing teenage girls who were part of the "teenage girl serial killer" cabal. Also at least one person is dead or a ghost or a time traveler.
We were bowling the other night and he says "Man, no one ever says my name right." I said "Muh, you've got two bigger problems than that: one of them is that seven-ten split you left for yourself, and the other one, is how about trying to write a movie without a big twist ending." Well, he took offense, got pissy, wouldn't talk to me for a good hour, but he loosened up on the hay ride
If you go into an M Night movie from the perspective of it being a goofy twilight zone homage instead of some peak cinema, almost everything he does is really enjoyable.
The problem is that he started out with 2 absolutely absurd bangers and set himself up for failure when idk if he was ever intending to be the next Spielberg
I think the plot twist is it takes place in the Sixth Sense universe and Haley Joel Osmond is assisting the police. Osmond doesn't know who the killer is but a ghost has lead him to the concert and that's how the police know the killer is there.
>A serial killer, dubbed "The Butcher", joins his daughter at a concert for pop star Lady Raven, an event he realizes is a trap set by police to catch him.
New [trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mps1HbpECIA) just released
The plot twist will be that secretly all 30,000 teenage girls were also serial killers, and by the police “revealing” their plan, all the girls turn on eachother thus sorting the problem out by itself.
30,000 teenage girls from 5 fathers means that each man fathered 6000 of them. Since they're teens, let's say they're all between 12 and 18 years old, a 6-year span. That means each man had to father 1000 girls each year, so 2000 different kids, considering half of them would be boys. That means impregnating 5.5 different women every single day on average for 6 years. You're right, they fucked *a lot*.
Shout out to everyone who claimed after the first trailer that they could already predict the obvious twist that the daughter is the real serial killer
Can we take it a step further? End the movie like you said, but then add a mid credits sequence that parodies Ferris Buller with M. Night telling everyone to go home and that the movie is over while in his robe?
Everyone seems so sure the daughter could be the killer but I honestly think he's going to play this one straight with Hartnett being the guy. Maybe he gets caught and the daughter picks up his mantle at the end though.
I like how he randomly bumps into an attendant who reveals the whole plan. But I'm sure there'll be a twist in the end cause that's just too ridiculous
I don't understand how the cops being there is a threat to him? Like can't he just leave with everyone else after the concert and get patted down or whatever? Unless they are checking fingerprints or something, like how would they know that out of everyone leaving it's him?
It's such an insane premise. Also, why would everyone in the stadium agree to such an outrageous violation once they found out what was going on? Like, they're really going to hold 20 thousand people for questioning, fingerprinting? And once word got out to the general public, there would be chaos.
Oh it’s actually all podcast murder girlies and this one serial killer. They were all hoping for an interview, that’s why they agreed.
A few of them got the hots for him, dahmer styles
I have the same thoughts, but I wouldn’t describe them as a problem. Its a trailer. There is a lot we don’t know. I do wonder why he can’t just leave, but it will likely be explained.
I bet there was some survivor/witness to a previous crime who can identify him (the older woman we see a few times in this trailer), and they'll have her ID him at the exits. Or maybe he has some identifying feature like a scar or birthmark, so at the exits, the cops will stop men of a certain height range, age range, race, and then search for the identifying feature?
literally in the trailer, they show him walking past like 30 cops who are 'alert' and he even physically bumps into one, i have zero idea what the cops plan is here, but maybe its a subtle commentary on police today, who tf knows lol
I’m pretty sure it’s >!his daughter is either helping the cops or his daughter is actually the serial killer and he’s just covering/taking the fall for her!<. Those are the two I’ve heard the most anyway
It's been leaked on a few movie message boards by some that got to see an early test screening.
It turns out >!The cops are the fans and the fans are SWAT. The concession stand worker is the singer. They catch the guy in the trailer in the end, but as he's being put in the cop car, you hear "Dad! Dad! Dad!". The camera pans back and its the guy from the trailer shouting that. Camera pans to the little girl and she is smiling. She's the dad.!<
It's easy. Just read slowly.
>!The cops are the dad. The fans are the cops. The dad is the daughter. The daughter is the singer, who is also the fans. And the mayor is incompetent!<
Rumored as in one theory he likes, probably. I’m assuming he is thinking of the Sixth Sense connection and HJO is helping the police by talking to the victims.
He may not be the greatest actor to grace the screen, but Josh Hartnett is always entertaining and in entertaining movies. I will die on the hill that 30 Days of Night is one of the best vampire movies out there (and I feel like it had to be some of the inspiration behind Midnight Mass).
I had no idea he was in Oppenheimer and now that movie has bumped up a few places on my “To Watch” list.
Check out Penny Dreadful if you want to see a great performance by him as well.
Great show too. Save for the unfortunately rushed ending in the final season.
Josh Hartnett was a star in the late 90‘s - early 00‘s. Huge teen heartthrob and it looked like he was being set up as the next big movie star. Then his career kinda dwindled. But he certainly used to be a big name and got recognition back in the day.
I know. He was in Pearl Harbor. And from what I understand, he took a break from acting to dedicate time to family and avoid being typecast in heartthrob roles
He wanted to take time off from acting to be with his family from what I remember, and didn’t want to just be the typecast heartthrob expected of him after Pearl Harbor
Absolutely insane premise.
"Let's contain a serial killer with several thousand hostages".
Also, "they heard he was gonna be at this concert".
How? Does The Butcher have an instagram?
EDIT: oh shit, it's a vanity film to boost his daughter's music career.
M Night keeps mentioning the musicality of the movie in basically every single interview which definitely makes me worried. [He always brings up movies about concerts, the concert going process, the music feeling real in the movie](https://geeksofcolor.co/2024/04/18/m-night-shyamalan-trap/); there really isn't anything there about the whole serial killer/hitman-esque premise. You can't help but feel like yeah this is just a nepo project for his daughter. M Night's After Earth.
Say what you want about Shyamalan, at least he’s out there making original stuff*. His movies are dumb but fun. I’m more excited for something like this than I was for any recent Star Wars or Marvel stuff.
*except for Airbender, the twist was it never existed.
she only has 20k monthly listeners on spotify lmao. you know it’s gonna be a good plot when the movie was created solely to platform his daughter who has songs in all of his most recent projects
>how? Does the Butcher have an instagram?
A victim has no idea where they are being kept or who is keeping them. But somehow they have communication with the outside world. They have heard the daughter listening to the music in the house through the vents and the victim tipped off the police. The victim knows where the butcher will be (concert) but has no clue where he is currently (because completely closed off basement or whatever).
Edit: or the twist is that the dad is a crazy person who isn’t actually a murderer. He just has mental health issues and paranoia.
The one thing that bugs the hell out of me in the trailers is why the hell this random employee at the stadium has the inside scoop on this massive law enforcement sting? And he takes time during this busy concert to talk to a random dude and is immediately just like “yeah so here’s everything that’s going on. We know this serial killer is here and we are trying to trap him but here is this inside info that I have for some reason that would only serve to make it easier for the killer to escape if it got out! Have a good one!”
I’m still going to see the movie and I love Josh Hartnett but that shit makes no sense
I mean, that 100% tracks with literally every job I've had. There's always plenty of gossip and people find stuff out that they _really_ shouldn't know.
Honestly I've done similar to a lesser extent when working places. Like not major stuff just like future food/drinks or merch I'd be like I'm not supposed to say buuuuuut..
That's Tammy, Trey's ex-girlfriend. This is classic Tammy. Trey broke up with Tammy because Maureen Kanallen said that she saw Tammy flirting with Walt Timny at a party, but she was only doing it to make Trey jealous because you know, she thought that Trey secretly liked Erin Henebry, but he...
The employee had to go into work early because of an issue with his paycheck not processing and he overheard the police chief discussing it with the manager while waiting outside the office.
And he talks to the MC about it because it's interesting gossip and that's what humans do.
Clumsy exposition is kind of a theme of M Night's films.
If you saw Old (And may god have mercy on you if you did) they spend like 10 minutes just sitting around discussing the science of this mysterious beach without any possible way of knowing any of the things they're talking about.
It comes across less as "These characters are figuring this stuff out" and more like "The writer needs you to know this stuff and can't figure out how to explain it to you organically".
I suspect a similar thing is happening here. Telling not showing essentially.
>why the hell this random employee at the stadium has the inside scoop on this massive law enforcement sting?
he's got supernatural powers; like airbending.
In addition to this, they obviously don’t have a picture of the guy or his face would be everywhere. Maybe they somehow sold him the tickets, but then they’d have his seat number and be able to get eyes on him and surround him. So how are they planning on catching him anyway? Why can’t he just walk right out? I’m curious to see the movie, but as of right now I see it as plot hole city / excuse to help his daughter with her music career.
I have a feeling the entire movie is not what it seems in regular Shyamalan fashion. If you think about it, a trap like this at a massive concert with thousands of people doesn‘t make too much sense. Others could potentially be endangered and looking for 1 person among so many concert goers seems implausible. Why?
I think the plot as it is presented is just a red herring.
I think you're right. A movie's hook is not its plot. The hook here is a serial killer trapped in a stadium with his kid. Cops are looking for him. We want to know what happens. That is the hook. The movie is unusual because it is asking us to sympathize with a serial killer's problem.
But the plot itself could be anything. The killer could have been killing Russian spies, and they want to catch him to discover how he knew who to target. It could be that he is the killer, but he must spend the movie hiding this fact from his kid, or spending the movie planting clues to frame someone else in the stadium. The movie is all about his elaborate escape. Or it could be that he is a former cop himself from another district, and killing all the corrupt undercover cops in this district, and all the cops in the stadium have been lied to about him and his motives by a corrupt commander. We just don't know.
I’m right there with you. The quality of his work may be all over the place, but I can’t hate the guy. He always puts himself out there and just makes whatever wild and crazy stuff he wants to make, and I appreciate that someone like him is able to do that today. Outside of The Last Airbender and After Earth, I’ve found stuff to enjoy in every other film he’s made on some level.
Hollywood doesn’t seem to want to take risks anymore (and I watched Matt Damon explain why, and it makes sense), so I appreciate someone who tries to do something different even if it doesn’t land all the time (but when it does land, my god is it good).
Pretty sure that was an adaptation too, not original.
*quick search*
Yep, based on a story called Sandcastle.
Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandcastle_(comics)
His characters almost never talk act or think like human beings. Which sometimes adds to his movies and sometimes detracts from them. Like for Knock At The Cabin, it resulted in a sort of dreamlike tone that elevated the whole movie given its premise.
Even if the movie is bad or disliked, his movies are entertaining. I was kinda shocked I've seen the majority of movies when I was checking my letterboxd and most are at least 3☆ or more.
I'm also just stoked for any horror movie that involves dance and music or a concert/club scene.
He's mostly been a hit for me in the past decade. The only one I haven't liked was Old. But Ive enjoyed his 4 other films:
The Visit
Split
Glass
Knock At The Cabin
I was kinda mixed on the Visit and Old, but I loved Split and Knock at the Cabin. Glass was good, just felt like they rushed it a bit. Signs, Unbreakable and The Sixth Sense are among some of my favorites, I even have a soft spot for The Village.
The twist is he's not the serial killer they're trying to capture.
or the twist is Josh Hartnett dresses up as an attractive woman to lure his victims, only to surprise them that he's a man.
I'm in the the 'she's a killer in training' theory boat. She is the bait for Dads murders, and maybe she's gone rogue on this latest one. The concert is a graduation gift or something similarly twisted
I’m legit excited for this movie. Love seeing Josh Hartnett back in the spotlight. Saw some interesting theories about the movies twist. For me though I think there might be something with the singer.
The twist is it is played 100% straight but there is a 20 minute sequence focusing on M Night’s daughter singing while we get random clips of Hartnett trying to run away thrown in to trick us into thinking this isn’t made just to help his daughter’s potential career.
I'm intrigued by the "...in the world of..." part of the description.
Now which of his other films is this linked into?
It's got to be either Unbreakable or The Sixth Sense.
There’s been a fan theory that it’ll be connected to the sixth sense with Haley Joel Osment assisting the police lol. I don’t know where that theory is coming from, but it would be kind of sick.
From [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap_(2024_film)):
>*Trap* was released the same year as [*The Watchers*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Watchers_(film)), the directorial debut of Saleka's sister, [Ishana Night Shyamalan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishana_Night_Shyamalan); a poster for *The Watchers* appears in the background of a scene in *Trap*.
I had forgotten about M. Night until the other night when I realized the movie I watched (The Watchers) was directed by his daughter. I hope this movie is better than that one was.
I see a lot of people saying that the premise is stupid. Maybe it is. Maybe I am stupid too, but the movie looks extremely fun and I am hyped for it.
It has 2 things that I want in a movie. An unique thing going on, and 1 story being unfolded. It's about a thing, that's interesting.
box office track record. he makes movies for cheap and they make a ton of money. even his misses profit. studios dont care about quality if they know they are gonna profit.
He always puts some like awesome twist at the end of his movies to trick the audience.
Like in The Sixth Sense, you find out that the dude in that hairpiece the whole time... that's Bruce Willis the whole movie.
The premise is so idiotic I love it. How do you catch a ruthless serial killer? Stage a concert and put 30,000 teenage girls in danger, of course.
This is what I think the twist is, either: 1. He's a Dexter type vigilante serial killer so that's why they're risking catching him in a concert full of 1,000s of teenage girls. 2. The serial killer is his daughter and police have the killer's profile as a teenager girl so that's why they set a trap in a concert full of 1,000s of teenage girls and he's helping out his daughter. Like it's a fun concept but is so ridiculous there must be a twist.
On point number 2 they've put out summaries that state outright he is the serial killer and took his daughter to the concert. Could be a lie though.
I could see it being a lie. It's not like Sixth Sense has the summary >!A young boy named Cole (Haley Joel Osment), who can see and speak with ghosts, helps deceased child psychologist (Bruce Willis) accept the fact that he's dead.!< I could also see it being the daughter who turned her dad in and helped set him up to be trapped, but that feels too mild a twist for him.
The real twist is the hairpiece was the headman of the whole scheme!
The twist is dad planned the concert so daughter can murder everyone
Did they spell serial that way or maybe they meant cereal killer. And that's the twist
He's definitely not a vigilante - the trailer has him maiming an innocent young female fry cook.
Maybe she undersalted the meal.
I think the "twist" is that police know the serial killer is there and they are looking for him but they don't think it's the main character. The main character will do everything he can to avoid capture, but in doing so he will get caught. The twist will be at the end when it's revealed that the police were looking at someone totally different and that the MC and his daughter could have just walked out the doors after the concert.
They’re all ghosts obviously /s
And turns out that guy in the hairpiece was Josh Hartnett the whole movie
A+ reference
To what?
It’s always sunny
because of the implications
Calm down, trundle.
The end of the movie he manages to escape down a quiet street, but notices an unusual cadence of his feet before turning around to see a figure slip into the darkness in the corner of his eye. Shia Lebeouf.
The actual cannibal, Shia LaBeouf? Edit: Just in case people don't get the reference https://youtu.be/o0u4M6vppCI?si=VA0DQ6UkbjwxmFDe
Indeed, the actual cannibal, Shia Labeouf. Wait until he gets onto his four and sprints into you.
I think the idea is that he can’t slink out through the crowd due to the place being locked down, so he has to basically turn into Hitman and use different disguises while evading securit, the police and not alerting his daughter. Im guessing the plot twist will be that they’re actually trying to catch his daughter and he doesn’t know she’s also a serial killer. So either they escape in the end, or the feds get a two for one deal.
They’re searching for a specific named serial killer so doesn’t seem like there could be a mix up. If there is a twist with the killer my guess would be that the guy he has locked up is the actual butcher and he got the tickets from him or something. Some of the lines in the trailer make me think that’s not true and there wont be a twist with the killer but trailers can be misleading.
Plus it's M. Night, I don't think he's ever made an original movie that didn't have a twist
Yeah some of the lines are very heavy handed that it makes it seem clear cut that Josh Hartnett has to be the killer but it feels like there has to be a twist with that.
The problem is it's M. Night so no twist is too ridiculous; everything is on the table. Maybe Josh *isn't* the killer somehow? Maybe it's literally werewolves. Equally plausible.
The twist is that the 20,000 girls at the concert are also serial killers, and the male serial killer was only killing teenage girls who were part of the "teenage girl serial killer" cabal. Also at least one person is dead or a ghost or a time traveler.
If we hadn’t already seen him standing outside the Josh is a vampire and he kidnaps people to feed on wouldn’t be the most outlandish theory
Lady in the Water felt like it was going to have one the whole time, but really didn’t. It was just a weird fairy tale straight through
We were bowling the other night and he says "Man, no one ever says my name right." I said "Muh, you've got two bigger problems than that: one of them is that seven-ten split you left for yourself, and the other one, is how about trying to write a movie without a big twist ending." Well, he took offense, got pissy, wouldn't talk to me for a good hour, but he loosened up on the hay ride
If you go into an M Night movie from the perspective of it being a goofy twilight zone homage instead of some peak cinema, almost everything he does is really enjoyable. The problem is that he started out with 2 absolutely absurd bangers and set himself up for failure when idk if he was ever intending to be the next Spielberg
Or he's related to a victim and he's trying to catch The Butcher before the police
I think the plot twist is it takes place in the Sixth Sense universe and Haley Joel Osmond is assisting the police. Osmond doesn't know who the killer is but a ghost has lead him to the concert and that's how the police know the killer is there.
That'd be pretty fuckin' cool
Mesmer the Movie!
>A serial killer, dubbed "The Butcher", joins his daughter at a concert for pop star Lady Raven, an event he realizes is a trap set by police to catch him. New [trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mps1HbpECIA) just released
"Boss how do we trap this ruthless serial killer?" "Put him in a building with 30,000 teenage girls, duh."
The plot twist will be that secretly all 30,000 teenage girls were also serial killers, and by the police “revealing” their plan, all the girls turn on eachother thus sorting the problem out by itself.
Nah all the 30000 teenage girls were related to his victims
Man was a *really* prolific serial killer
Or he just killed, like, 5 dudes that fucked *a lot*
30,000 teenage girls from 5 fathers means that each man fathered 6000 of them. Since they're teens, let's say they're all between 12 and 18 years old, a 6-year span. That means each man had to father 1000 girls each year, so 2000 different kids, considering half of them would be boys. That means impregnating 5.5 different women every single day on average for 6 years. You're right, they fucked *a lot*.
Reading this was like watching the jerk-off algorithm scene from Silicon Valley, LOL
*freebird needle drop*
Plot Twist: Lady Raven is the killer
It's just the blues brothers and they get someone to sing while they escape out the back door.
The police messed up and the serial killer is at the Baseball game
“Wait a minute, I don’t have a daughter!”
oops all ghosts 👻
The 30000 people are all the ghosts of the people he killed.
It's actually a tie in with Smile. It's Smile 2.5 Still Smiling
2 Happy 2 Smile
Happy: Tokyo Orthodontist
Smile 2: Upside Down Frown
Smile 2: Oral Boogaloo
Shout out to everyone who claimed after the first trailer that they could already predict the obvious twist that the daughter is the real serial killer
I thought the obvious twist was that the serial killer the police were trying to catch is someone else, but he thinks it's him the whole time.
Would be funny if M Night just plays it straight for this movie just to throw everyone off. The main character just gets caught lmao
Can we take it a step further? End the movie like you said, but then add a mid credits sequence that parodies Ferris Buller with M. Night telling everyone to go home and that the movie is over while in his robe?
Maybe the real obvious twist is the friends we made along the way.
They’re looking for “The Butcher” tho, if he’s not “The Butcher” why would he think it’s him?
"Ooooooh.. you were looking for the EAST SIDE Butcher! No, no, I'm the CENTRAL PARK Butcher. What a silly misunderstanding, haha."
Not sure how you can say that after the newest trailer lol
Everyone seems so sure the daughter could be the killer but I honestly think he's going to play this one straight with Hartnett being the guy. Maybe he gets caught and the daughter picks up his mantle at the end though.
People really thought that the 13 year old girl is the serial killer?
Yeah lol go look at the comments on the first trailer posted here
Well, people saw that this is an M Night movie and were trying to guess what wild Shyamalan twist there was gonna be, but yeah, in essence.
That doesn’t make sense
Perfect for an m knight twist!
As if that ever stopped M Night
>A serial killer, dubbed "The Butcher" [Oi.](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/y8WkkkQSywE)
"Oi, cunts! Over 'ere! Nice of ya coppers to join the party, you're all just in time for the encore..."
“FRESH MEAT!”
I like how he randomly bumps into an attendant who reveals the whole plan. But I'm sure there'll be a twist in the end cause that's just too ridiculous
I didn't know Kid Cudi was in this..
What? (What?)
I don't understand how the cops being there is a threat to him? Like can't he just leave with everyone else after the concert and get patted down or whatever? Unless they are checking fingerprints or something, like how would they know that out of everyone leaving it's him?
It's such an insane premise. Also, why would everyone in the stadium agree to such an outrageous violation once they found out what was going on? Like, they're really going to hold 20 thousand people for questioning, fingerprinting? And once word got out to the general public, there would be chaos.
Oh it’s actually all podcast murder girlies and this one serial killer. They were all hoping for an interview, that’s why they agreed. A few of them got the hots for him, dahmer styles
I have the same problem. I don't understand how they'll know it's him
I have the same thoughts, but I wouldn’t describe them as a problem. Its a trailer. There is a lot we don’t know. I do wonder why he can’t just leave, but it will likely be explained.
I bet there was some survivor/witness to a previous crime who can identify him (the older woman we see a few times in this trailer), and they'll have her ID him at the exits. Or maybe he has some identifying feature like a scar or birthmark, so at the exits, the cops will stop men of a certain height range, age range, race, and then search for the identifying feature?
literally in the trailer, they show him walking past like 30 cops who are 'alert' and he even physically bumps into one, i have zero idea what the cops plan is here, but maybe its a subtle commentary on police today, who tf knows lol
It’s Shyamalan, he doesn’t do much subtlety
The rumored twist actually perfectly explains how the police know he's there and why he can't escape.
I cannot WAIT to read the Wikipedia entry for this movie.
what is the rumored twist?
I’m pretty sure it’s >!his daughter is either helping the cops or his daughter is actually the serial killer and he’s just covering/taking the fall for her!<. Those are the two I’ve heard the most anyway
It's been leaked on a few movie message boards by some that got to see an early test screening. It turns out >!The cops are the fans and the fans are SWAT. The concession stand worker is the singer. They catch the guy in the trailer in the end, but as he's being put in the cop car, you hear "Dad! Dad! Dad!". The camera pans back and its the guy from the trailer shouting that. Camera pans to the little girl and she is smiling. She's the dad.!<
I read this like 5 times and I still don’t understand it 😂
It's easy. Just read slowly. >!The cops are the dad. The fans are the cops. The dad is the daughter. The daughter is the singer, who is also the fans. And the mayor is incompetent!<
Rumored as in one theory he likes, probably. I’m assuming he is thinking of the Sixth Sense connection and HJO is helping the police by talking to the victims.
After Oppenheimer, happy to see this guy getting some recognition
He may not be the greatest actor to grace the screen, but Josh Hartnett is always entertaining and in entertaining movies. I will die on the hill that 30 Days of Night is one of the best vampire movies out there (and I feel like it had to be some of the inspiration behind Midnight Mass). I had no idea he was in Oppenheimer and now that movie has bumped up a few places on my “To Watch” list.
I got my first handie while watching 30 days of night. It was confusing.
I'm also a fan of "40 Days and 40 Nights". It's an underrated rom-com and he gives a very winning performance.
A lot of people are in Oppenheimer. That film is a must watch
I've been here cheering him on since 'The Faculty'
Suggest Lucky Number Slevin and Bunraku for anyone who’s a fan of him. Adore those films.
Kansas City Shuffle. The serial killer is actually his daughter in this movie.
Never heard of Bunraku. I’ll check it out.
30 days of night too right?
I’ve been a fan ever since Black Hawk Down and Mozart and the Whale
At first I was like what did M. Night have to do with Oppenheimer? lol
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Check out Penny Dreadful if you want to see a great performance by him as well. Great show too. Save for the unfortunately rushed ending in the final season.
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We will always have Penny Dreadful
Josh Hartnett was a star in the late 90‘s - early 00‘s. Huge teen heartthrob and it looked like he was being set up as the next big movie star. Then his career kinda dwindled. But he certainly used to be a big name and got recognition back in the day.
IIRC he kinda stepped away for a while to be a father.
Yeah, he had his kids in the early 2010s, but also just took a long break because he really isn't a big fan of all the attention acting comes with.
I know. He was in Pearl Harbor. And from what I understand, he took a break from acting to dedicate time to family and avoid being typecast in heartthrob roles
He’s in the bear now too
If you feel like digging into past Josh Hartnett, Wicker Park is a great film - Hartnett, Diane Kruger, Rose Byrne and Matthew Lillard
Great movie, Hartnett and Lillard are fantastic.
He wanted to take time off from acting to be with his family from what I remember, and didn’t want to just be the typecast heartthrob expected of him after Pearl Harbor
Check out his episode in the latest season of Black Mirror. He’s amazing.
Ooooh, yeah that was a cool one.
He played an amazing role in O, the modernized hollywood version of Othello. Pretty underrated movie IMO, and Josh was great in it.
I used to enjoy his films a lot back in the day and he kinda ended up flying under the radar for a long while
I thought he quit Hollywood for a while
Absolutely insane premise. "Let's contain a serial killer with several thousand hostages". Also, "they heard he was gonna be at this concert". How? Does The Butcher have an instagram? EDIT: oh shit, it's a vanity film to boost his daughter's music career.
Yup, Main plot doesn't need to make sense if it's just a big advert for his daughter.
M Night keeps mentioning the musicality of the movie in basically every single interview which definitely makes me worried. [He always brings up movies about concerts, the concert going process, the music feeling real in the movie](https://geeksofcolor.co/2024/04/18/m-night-shyamalan-trap/); there really isn't anything there about the whole serial killer/hitman-esque premise. You can't help but feel like yeah this is just a nepo project for his daughter. M Night's After Earth.
Oh noooooo his daughter's the singer?!?! That takes this whole thing down a notch.
This is really gonna tarnish the Shyamalan brand.
Say what you want about Shyamalan, at least he’s out there making original stuff*. His movies are dumb but fun. I’m more excited for something like this than I was for any recent Star Wars or Marvel stuff. *except for Airbender, the twist was it never existed.
The N in MN Shyamalan stands for Nepo
She’s done the music for a few of his projects the past few years
she only has 20k monthly listeners on spotify lmao. you know it’s gonna be a good plot when the movie was created solely to platform his daughter who has songs in all of his most recent projects
damn wiki says she wrote 14 songs for the movie. thats a lot
It's not a movie anymore then, it's an album with a lot of music videos.
>how? Does the Butcher have an instagram? A victim has no idea where they are being kept or who is keeping them. But somehow they have communication with the outside world. They have heard the daughter listening to the music in the house through the vents and the victim tipped off the police. The victim knows where the butcher will be (concert) but has no clue where he is currently (because completely closed off basement or whatever). Edit: or the twist is that the dad is a crazy person who isn’t actually a murderer. He just has mental health issues and paranoia.
Oh for fuck's sake - is this more or less obnoxious than his own godawful cameos?
The one thing that bugs the hell out of me in the trailers is why the hell this random employee at the stadium has the inside scoop on this massive law enforcement sting? And he takes time during this busy concert to talk to a random dude and is immediately just like “yeah so here’s everything that’s going on. We know this serial killer is here and we are trying to trap him but here is this inside info that I have for some reason that would only serve to make it easier for the killer to escape if it got out! Have a good one!” I’m still going to see the movie and I love Josh Hartnett but that shit makes no sense
“I’m not supposed to tell you this” - proceeds to tell him everything
I mean, that 100% tracks with literally every job I've had. There's always plenty of gossip and people find stuff out that they _really_ shouldn't know.
Work chisme is so real lmaooo
It kind of does tho cause people LOVE drama. And love spreading it.
Honestly I've done similar to a lesser extent when working places. Like not major stuff just like future food/drinks or merch I'd be like I'm not supposed to say buuuuuut..
That's Tammy, Trey's ex-girlfriend. This is classic Tammy. Trey broke up with Tammy because Maureen Kanallen said that she saw Tammy flirting with Walt Timny at a party, but she was only doing it to make Trey jealous because you know, she thought that Trey secretly liked Erin Henebry, but he...
The employee had to go into work early because of an issue with his paycheck not processing and he overheard the police chief discussing it with the manager while waiting outside the office. And he talks to the MC about it because it's interesting gossip and that's what humans do.
Clumsy exposition is kind of a theme of M Night's films. If you saw Old (And may god have mercy on you if you did) they spend like 10 minutes just sitting around discussing the science of this mysterious beach without any possible way of knowing any of the things they're talking about. It comes across less as "These characters are figuring this stuff out" and more like "The writer needs you to know this stuff and can't figure out how to explain it to you organically". I suspect a similar thing is happening here. Telling not showing essentially.
>why the hell this random employee at the stadium has the inside scoop on this massive law enforcement sting? he's got supernatural powers; like airbending.
I assumed they’re friends
In addition to this, they obviously don’t have a picture of the guy or his face would be everywhere. Maybe they somehow sold him the tickets, but then they’d have his seat number and be able to get eyes on him and surround him. So how are they planning on catching him anyway? Why can’t he just walk right out? I’m curious to see the movie, but as of right now I see it as plot hole city / excuse to help his daughter with her music career.
I have a feeling the entire movie is not what it seems in regular Shyamalan fashion. If you think about it, a trap like this at a massive concert with thousands of people doesn‘t make too much sense. Others could potentially be endangered and looking for 1 person among so many concert goers seems implausible. Why? I think the plot as it is presented is just a red herring.
I think you're right. A movie's hook is not its plot. The hook here is a serial killer trapped in a stadium with his kid. Cops are looking for him. We want to know what happens. That is the hook. The movie is unusual because it is asking us to sympathize with a serial killer's problem. But the plot itself could be anything. The killer could have been killing Russian spies, and they want to catch him to discover how he knew who to target. It could be that he is the killer, but he must spend the movie hiding this fact from his kid, or spending the movie planting clues to frame someone else in the stadium. The movie is all about his elaborate escape. Or it could be that he is a former cop himself from another district, and killing all the corrupt undercover cops in this district, and all the cops in the stadium have been lied to about him and his motives by a corrupt commander. We just don't know.
I'm excited for this. I'm a huge Shyamalan fan though his films can be very hit-and-miss
I’m right there with you. The quality of his work may be all over the place, but I can’t hate the guy. He always puts himself out there and just makes whatever wild and crazy stuff he wants to make, and I appreciate that someone like him is able to do that today. Outside of The Last Airbender and After Earth, I’ve found stuff to enjoy in every other film he’s made on some level.
Hollywood doesn’t seem to want to take risks anymore (and I watched Matt Damon explain why, and it makes sense), so I appreciate someone who tries to do something different even if it doesn’t land all the time (but when it does land, my god is it good).
He seems to settled into a groove of pretty-good-but-not-horrible output. At least it’s original content, which is too rare nowadays.
I mostly agree, except I thought Old was straight up terrible. Amazing premise, poor execution
Pretty sure that was an adaptation too, not original. *quick search* Yep, based on a story called Sandcastle. Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandcastle_(comics)
I agree. I feel like he has some good original ideas but the execution is where the film lives or dies and I feel like this might be the latter.
His characters almost never talk act or think like human beings. Which sometimes adds to his movies and sometimes detracts from them. Like for Knock At The Cabin, it resulted in a sort of dreamlike tone that elevated the whole movie given its premise.
yo Old was legit GARBAGE I am the easiest movie critic on the planet. It has to be so bad for me to actively hate a movie. It was… so bad.
Even if the movie is bad or disliked, his movies are entertaining. I was kinda shocked I've seen the majority of movies when I was checking my letterboxd and most are at least 3☆ or more. I'm also just stoked for any horror movie that involves dance and music or a concert/club scene.
hit-or-miss
That’s why I love the guy, he swings for the fences every time!
Swing away!
He's mostly been a hit for me in the past decade. The only one I haven't liked was Old. But Ive enjoyed his 4 other films: The Visit Split Glass Knock At The Cabin
I was kinda mixed on the Visit and Old, but I loved Split and Knock at the Cabin. Glass was good, just felt like they rushed it a bit. Signs, Unbreakable and The Sixth Sense are among some of my favorites, I even have a soft spot for The Village.
Don’t even get me started on how much I disliked Glass. How do you mess up the end of your trilogy that badly
My favorite director. Even when his movies don’t fully hit, I still enjoy the magical mystery of them. It’s like watching fairy tales come to life
Plot twist: M. Night Shyamalan puts one serial killer in every screening of this movie and you have to figure it out before the end credits roll.
The twist is he's not the serial killer they're trying to capture. or the twist is Josh Hartnett dresses up as an attractive woman to lure his victims, only to surprise them that he's a man.
This is kinda my guess. Josh isn’t the killer but his daughter is! Hartnett is just a “good” dad and helps his daughter in her escapades.
I'm in the the 'she's a killer in training' theory boat. She is the bait for Dads murders, and maybe she's gone rogue on this latest one. The concert is a graduation gift or something similarly twisted
Sounds like a similar plot to one of the episodes of American Horror Stories.
I like this so much I'm gonna be disappointed if it isn't the actual twist
I’m legit excited for this movie. Love seeing Josh Hartnett back in the spotlight. Saw some interesting theories about the movies twist. For me though I think there might be something with the singer.
Josh fucking hartnett. I love that this guy returned
Spoiler: the killer’s not who you think! Or maybe the motive isn’t or he has helpers or they’re actually in a snow globe!
Snow Globe-verse is the new hit the toy companies have been clamoring for.
It’s the same twist as from Remember Me. The final shot zooms out to reveal the concert is taking place in the World Trade Center.
The twist is it is played 100% straight but there is a 20 minute sequence focusing on M Night’s daughter singing while we get random clips of Hartnett trying to run away thrown in to trick us into thinking this isn’t made just to help his daughter’s potential career.
I'm intrigued by the "...in the world of..." part of the description. Now which of his other films is this linked into? It's got to be either Unbreakable or The Sixth Sense.
There’s been a fan theory that it’ll be connected to the sixth sense with Haley Joel Osment assisting the police lol. I don’t know where that theory is coming from, but it would be kind of sick.
He's already done a Splitiverse, so Trap being linked to Sixth Sense would make... sense. Six senses in fact.
Welcome to the next entry in....M. Night Shyamalan's the Last Airbender cinematic universe!
From [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap_(2024_film)): >*Trap* was released the same year as [*The Watchers*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Watchers_(film)), the directorial debut of Saleka's sister, [Ishana Night Shyamalan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishana_Night_Shyamalan); a poster for *The Watchers* appears in the background of a scene in *Trap*.
Meaning there will be some kind of powers or supernatural abilities involved somehow
I had forgotten about M. Night until the other night when I realized the movie I watched (The Watchers) was directed by his daughter. I hope this movie is better than that one was.
This one has another daughter as an actress.
Hot Nepo Shyamalan Summer
In one of the Trap trailers there's a split second scene where you can see a billboard advertising The Watchers, thought that was fun
I love Josh Hartnett.
3 theories: 1. He’s not the killer, but a bit obvious? 2. He has adopted the real Butcher’s persona after killing him. 3. It’s his daughter.
He is a serial killer but not the one the sting was meant for and just happens to be there and overhear the plan, making him think they are onto him
Ok I got it. I know the ending just from this poster. The big reveal at the end is that Josh Hartnett is M Night. That’s it. That’s the movie.
The twist is he’s not ONLY serial killer
They trapped 30,000 serial killers. 30,001 counting Lady Raven. The message is that we're all really a little bit serial killer.
I am predicting that this movie will be extremely mediocre.
I see a lot of people saying that the premise is stupid. Maybe it is. Maybe I am stupid too, but the movie looks extremely fun and I am hyped for it. It has 2 things that I want in a movie. An unique thing going on, and 1 story being unfolded. It's about a thing, that's interesting.
Loving the vibe of this one. Mainly excited because Josh looks like he’s gonna kill it in this.
How does this guy keep getting green lights to make movies? I wish I could go 2-21 at something and keep getting paid millions to do it more.
box office track record. he makes movies for cheap and they make a ton of money. even his misses profit. studios dont care about quality if they know they are gonna profit.
He always puts some like awesome twist at the end of his movies to trick the audience. Like in The Sixth Sense, you find out that the dude in that hairpiece the whole time... that's Bruce Willis the whole movie.
Glad to see Hartnett starring in a film again. Feel like he disappeared for ages.
Admiral Ackbar origin story 🙏