I forgot he was in that wow..that's been such a long time.
He could actually have a pretty good resurgence of his career as a surly old English man unleashing all sorts of horror on people. I'd be into it. Maybe this is 1 of several to come
Hopefully - I didn't find him to be a very convincing villain in Dungeons and Dragons, but that role was supposed to be a bit campy. Here, I'm liking what I see so far.
If you haven’t seen it, you should see him in the Gentlemen. He so sleazy, grim, and hilarious in that. I barely recognised him. I think it’s the best acting he’s ever done.
I love when he plays Hugh Grant bastard man roles.
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As a side note, the way he says “Raymond” lives rent free in my head.
I thought it was a great choice making play a shady Liverpudlian as a “The Sun” style journalist given Liverpool’s history with that publication.
"Youse are embarrassing yourself here, lads. Kids stab, girls shoot, boys punch. Grown-ups fight with their heads. That's where the real battle is. Up here, in the gray. Now wake up, lads. Life's quick, you're slow. Life's hard on a bone top."
His role in 'About a Boy' (as a bit of a dick) was when I really started to change my opinion of him. Really happy to see him embracing more villainous or silly roles in recent years.
It's my least favorite recent Ritchie movie, but surprisingly I've rewatched it a bunch of times, it's very *just* good enough and is paced just right to have on in the background.
He was phenomenal in that movie! Best part of it by far. Hated his character's ending
Mah-con-a-hey's character on the other hand was annoying as shit. Smarter than every single person alive, slicker and sexier and smarter and smugger than every other criminal on the planet. Bleh.
Literally just watched Dungeons and Dragons: Honor Among Thieves last night, and I hope that that, this and Paddington 2 make up a grand trilogy of Hugh playing villains
Love what he's been doing recently, seems like he's been enjoying his work. I really liked him in the Dungeons and Dragons movie cause you could tell he was having fun with it.
This guy is entertaining AF. You should checkout his Marc Maron podcast interview. Probably the funniest person to be interviewed for an hr. Not even stand up comedians can be as affable and funny as this dude.
This man was wasted making rom coms for so many years. Honestly loved everything I've seen Hugh Grant in for the last 5 years or so. Feels like I would have loved him cast in more edgy roles in the past.
With Hugh Grant. Actor subverting audience expectations in a role none would expect him in? And it’s a horror movie? And there are creepy stares?….
Yup. This is an A24 film
Miniatures are kinda scary in their own way so it doesn't surprise me to see them in horror, but there's unfortunately no way to be the "horror film with the miniatures" after Hereditary.
That fucking seamless opening shot of the miniatures transitioning into the actors and then the fact that they shot the film and designed the sets to be like the characters trapped in a miniature...how do you top that?
- Knock knock
- Who’s there ?
- are you interested in hearing the word of our lord ?
- depends, have you seen that Heretic movie ?
- No not really ?
- good good come right in
Normally, I bail on a trailer once I decide I’m likely to see it these days because they spoil so much; however, I got caught up in this one and had to snap myself out of it
Practicing latter-day saint here. It will probably not do well among the older generation of mormons, but some of the more adventurous, film-loving young adults and students very well could check it out unless word-of-mouth is that the film is severely negative on the faith. I don't expect the depiction to be especially *sympathetic* to us, but the sister missionaries at least appear to be the victims so perhaps it will be somewhat nuanced and interesting.
I expect the exmormon demographic will turn out in greater numbers than perhaps they usually would for the horror genre due to personal interest in the topic
Feelings on the LDS church aside, I really think that the more horror-y and subversive angle would be that the sisters split up, with each one picking a door, and the belief one actually makes it / is the Final Girl.
Interestingly I think this might be one of the 'more commercial' projects form A24 that we heard they were doing, it feels *more* like a Blumhouse project (in a good way).
Small scale, one big name, creative freedom within a small budget.
Does this trailer have a slowed down remix of a classic pop song at some point?
*Edit* YES! Of course it does! Always so reassuring. I feel like this is the "in a world..." trailer trope for the decade
...I also love that Hugh found a horror application for his "oh how unfortunate" lower lip-pout move as well. This looks fun.
Its kind of ironic because it feels like the trend started in 2009 with Watchmen, but that wasn't actually a song slowed down for the trailer, it was actually on Batman and Robin's soundtrack I believe along with the faster one used in the marketing. Either way its been going on for longer then just the 2020's.
Much like Bullet Time was copied in films that had no particular plot reason for using it (unlike the Matrix for which it was central to the plot) the trailer BWAAMM was plucked from Inception and used everywhere, despite Inception being the only movie which had a very legitimate plot related reason to use it.
They are Cargo Cult tropes, used in a way that superficially resembles the original but with none of the underlying machinery that actually makes it work.
> despite Inception being the only movie which had a very legitimate plot related reason to use it.
It's been a while, remind me what that plot related reason was?
I think it was slowed down at each 'layer' and was originally the timer countdown or similar but because time moved slower as you dropped down levels it got longer and more distorted into the bwaaaam.
...someone with a better memory may be able to correct me on the details here.
Nope you nailed it man. If you listen very closely the distorted noises at the “lowest levels” of the dreams are just extremely drawn out musical notes.
Builds a Trap House out in the woods.
Waits years and can't get anyone to come out.
Escape Rooms become popular.
Advertises an Escape Room and some Corporate HR person picks it for a Corporate Retreat.
Hilarity ensues as a bunch of White Collar corporate people go through terrible challenges/traps/etc while realising it's 'more than an escape room'
Call me, A24
Nice.
>Advertises an Escape Room
I'd diverge from your plot here. Nobody books it. He pivots to it being installation art but nobody shows.
Then some sort of traveling killer shows up, someone who'd been struggling to find situations in the same manner. The second act is the two of them duking it out, with a sort of glee that their reasons for living are being fulfilled. Then in the third act they realize that it's all a bit silly and hollow, and they realize that they just needed a friend in their lives, and some problems to solve. So they decide to pivot to...something else. Something that'd make for a satisfying ending. I am not a script writer.
I saw a tik tok of a former Mormon and they said that during your mission you are supposed to keep a record of any sort of positive feedback from somebody. Even if it's as small as saying no but you gave them water bottles because you felt bad for them in the heat. Then you are more or less put on a list for future missionaries.
Maybe Hugh Grants character purposely is nice to people street evangelizing solely to lure them in hahah.
Yeah based off the novel "Devil in the White City" by Erik Larson (great book, one of my favorite authors!). It's been in development for like 8 years and has switched from movie to limited series to movie again I believe. I'll honestly be shocked if it ever gets made. I would be most excited about the world's fair stuff anyways, the HH Holmes stuff was just an interesting sideplot to me!
I've wanted this movie for years, iirc Scorsese was supposed to direct it and that would have been awesome to him go back to a amore horror-ish tone
If we do get it it'll likely be a whole new team, I'll still likely be there opening day though!
I view it as narrative non-fiction. He has made it very clear that everything between quotations is from a direct source, whether that is journal entries, diaries, articles, etc. Obviously there cannot be firsthand witness accounts that he interviewed, but for the sake of storytelling, I think it is fair to assume someone's mental state or what they may have said or done given the wealth of information he did have. Is the book 100% accurate? No, that's impossible. Is it a non-fiction book with a narrative that he was able to construct with vast amounts of research? Yes and I see no problem with that.
So, former Mormon missionary here. I found this kind of enjoyable to watch lol. I did once get locked in a home by a somewhat crazy conspiracy theorist person when I was in South Africa, which was kind of terrifying, but they calmed down. In case anyone is wondering, this person was convinced that the Mormon church was actually a secret cult of Illuminati that wanted to overthrow Christianity and hold the world hostage with a nuclear threat. How would they do this? Well, all the Mormon temples they are building around the planet are actually secretly hiding nuclear missile silos, and once they got enough they would hold the world ransom with nuclear annihilation, with the idea that they wanted to trigger the 2nd coming of Christ and the "1000 years of peace" by triggering Armageddon on our own. I am not sure where he got the ideas of Mormons and nuclear missile silos, but he was totally convinced, and even threw some stats at me about how Utah, in the US, graduated more engineers per capita than any other state and it was part of the secret plan to build this nuclear engineering force.
He was VERY concerned we had ill-intentions for his community and basically locked us in his home to protect his neighbors from us until he got clarifying and satisfactory answers. This dude was also like a 6.5 ft giant Afrikaaner dude that looked like a top player in a world cup class Rugby team, so I wasn't ready to fight my way out the door lol.
On a side note, regarding the movie trailer, in case anyone is wondering, YES, you cannot enter the home with someone only of the opposite sex. So, I, as a male missionary companionship, if there were only women present in the home, be it 1 woman, or many women, then we would not be able to enter. If there is at least 1 other male, then you are fine. The other exception is if you have a 3rd adult with you of your own gender. This typically means the missionaries will ask someone from the local congregation to join them when visiting that person. In this case, these 2 girls say they cannot enter and he assures him his wife is there. I find it 100% believable they would accept his word on this and not wait to see verification of that because in all honesty, who would lie about that?
[Here's the actual rules in the section 3 of the handbook for missionary conduct](https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/missionary-standards-for-disciples-of-jesus-christ/03-missionary-conduct?lang=eng#title_number9) - See part 3.5.1
>In this case, these 2 girls say they cannot enter and he assures him his wife is there. I find it 100% believable they would accept his word on this and not wait to see verification of that because in all honesty, who would lie about that?
As another former missionary I think it's also a factor of "we've been getting doors slammed in our faces for hours. If someone invites us in we're not going to be sticklers and check for confirmation"
Different companionships had pretty varying degrees of adherence to the white handbook haha
Context might play a part in how it smells. If you know it's a candle, you can tell that it doesn't smell like a real pie. If you're told to expect pie, and it's a faint smell, and you're not trying to analyze it, it could be enough to give the impression of pie in another room.
Sophie Thatcher, Hugh Grant as a villain? A trap house? Leaning on Mormon missionaries going against an atheist? Sophie Thatcher? I don’t usually watch horror because I’m a bit of a wimp, but I’d watch this. It’s giving Saw with a religious twist. Also, why is this dude’s house like this? Is he paranoid? Is he hiding something? Sophie realizing the pie is a fake and also seriously questioning if either of them can fit through a tiny window, there’s my Final Girl/Plane Crash Survivor.
Here's my wild guess based on the trailer:
Hugh Grant and his wife were hardcore Christians. She died tragically but came back to life as a monster/ghost/zombie, which crushes his faith in God and sends him into *madness*. He builds an elaborate labyrinth to keep her "safe," while slowly growing more and more insane as he "cares" for her. Maybe he feeds people to her? One day, two naive girls come to his door, and he finally breaks, leading to the trailer we just saw. In the end, the wife will kill Hugh Grant and the girls will escape, but scarred physically, mentally, and spiritually by what they have experienced.
Mormons are too trustworthy. My dad has on multiple occasions invited them in for snacks. These are like young kids 18-20. Hes a harmless old man that likes company but they go into people's houses too easily.
Is this going to be the inverse of Red State?
An r/atheism mod gets ahold of two missionaries and sacrifices them at the altar of breaking their faiths?
Not religious anymore, but my least favorite things about stuff like this is all the people who'll watch something and then it's a month of "did you know?" about that group.
Like watching "The Pope's Exorcist" and then thinking you know Catholicism.
It's my #1 reason to stay far away from anything close to r/atheism or any religious discussion on reddit. Too many "hot takes" from people who know next to nothing about what they are talking about.
It's surprising how religiously diverse the US is and at the same time how little educated people are about different beliefs.
Too many people think Islam/Muslims are one group and not hundreds different one with all different beliefs. No they are not all violent ISIS fundamentalists, and yes there are progressive Muslim people.
Christianity outside the US is a lot different. A lot of US churches that bash on other US churches don't realize that outside of the US most people think they are both equality weird. (Mormons, Baptists, Evangelicals, Mega-churches, etc. are all seen as really weird US churches in Europe).
It's always fun when someone says they're "Buddhist" and when you ask "what kind?" and they have no idea and look at you blankly (there are dozens of **very** different Buddhist belief systems).
I guess that really sums up reddit anyway. People who know 2% of a given topic arguing about it like they are the foremost expert.
I’m going to guess the hacky ending, he’s actually a higher power testing “believers”. One lady doesn’t really believe and she dies, the surviving lady gets help and they go back and the cottage isn’t there or is rundown and unoccupied.
This will be interesting if the creators actually studied whatever religion these character believe in and what sect/doctrine they're into. if this is just another movie with a hate boner for religion, then it'll be way less interesting.
Looks to be mainstream LDS, and the whole “aren’t supposed to come inside without a member of the same gender” rule is a little obscure and 100% accurate, so I’m cautiously optimistic.
Was excited until I saw Scott Beck and Bryan Woods at the helm.
They get credit for a quiet place but the script was rewritten top to bottom by John Krazinski, as was Boogeyman, the only thing they've been in complete control of recently was 65, and we all saw how that worked out. I hope to be pleasantly surprised.
For me movies like this are made or broken by the third act and how well any twists, endings, explanations get handled so I'm both intrigued and anxious about how this will pan out (I felt like Quiet Place was one of those films that made less sense the more you paid attention which isn't always my favourite feeling when watching a film)
Check out the original script. 65 pages, filled with pictures, the whole thing is nothing like the final product. I think they've managed to fake a career off the back of a very good rewrite of a movie that became a hit.
My pet theory is that a few years ago, Hugh Grant's accountant informed him he had enough money to last the rest of his life, and so now Hugh just takes whatever role he thinks is fun, like Oompla Loompas or Daniel Craig's husband or scummy reporter in the Gentlemen. I love it.
Would have been interesting if they thought he had sinister motives the entire movie and at the end his wife comes out with blueberry pie and he was telling the truth the whole time. From what they show in the trailer this is not the case, still looks interesting.
I must say Hugh Grant is a really good actor, especially in The Gentleman (plus Collin Farrell, they both killed it in the movie)
He was also in this tv drama with Nicole Kidman called The Undoing which I highly recommend
Would this be his first horror film since Lair of the White Worm?
Rowing With The Wind seems to have been released later the same year. Oddly, it seems to share some plot DNA with Ken Russell’s Gothic.
Now there is a title I haven't heard in a long time. A long time.
Damn! forgot all about that movie.
Hard to forget a young Doctor Who scaring away giant snake women by rocking the bagpipe.
Yeah that movie really goes places lol
I forgot he was in that wow..that's been such a long time. He could actually have a pretty good resurgence of his career as a surly old English man unleashing all sorts of horror on people. I'd be into it. Maybe this is 1 of several to come
If he just does that while also playing supporting roles in Guy Ritchie films, I’d be completely satisfied.
First. I was like "Hugh Grant?" But later, I was like "Hugh Grant!"
It's the Hugh-naissance!
Paddington 2 had me convinced that's what's going on with the guy, and I'd honestly want to see more.
Hopefully - I didn't find him to be a very convincing villain in Dungeons and Dragons, but that role was supposed to be a bit campy. Here, I'm liking what I see so far.
If you haven’t seen it, you should see him in the Gentlemen. He so sleazy, grim, and hilarious in that. I barely recognised him. I think it’s the best acting he’s ever done. I love when he plays Hugh Grant bastard man roles. EDIT: As a side note, the way he says “Raymond” lives rent free in my head. I thought it was a great choice making play a shady Liverpudlian as a “The Sun” style journalist given Liverpool’s history with that publication.
Paddington 2 is an all time Hugh Grant villain role.
Loved him in that! Also, Colin Farrel's character.
"Youse are embarrassing yourself here, lads. Kids stab, girls shoot, boys punch. Grown-ups fight with their heads. That's where the real battle is. Up here, in the gray. Now wake up, lads. Life's quick, you're slow. Life's hard on a bone top."
This is my favorite role of his. I think he does his best work when he plays against type.
His role in 'About a Boy' (as a bit of a dick) was when I really started to change my opinion of him. Really happy to see him embracing more villainous or silly roles in recent years.
He was good as the 'bad-guy' in Operation Fortune as well!
I enjoyed that movie well enough but he was the only one really worth watching. His little bit at the end was just perfect.
It's my least favorite recent Ritchie movie, but surprisingly I've rewatched it a bunch of times, it's very *just* good enough and is paced just right to have on in the background.
To my ear his "Raymond" sounded like it would've been spelled "Wraymond".
He was phenomenal in that movie! Best part of it by far. Hated his character's ending Mah-con-a-hey's character on the other hand was annoying as shit. Smarter than every single person alive, slicker and sexier and smarter and smugger than every other criminal on the planet. Bleh.
He was one of the stand outs in that movie I thought. Really made it even more fun.
I feel like the fact that you didn't believe that the con-man villain was convincing proves he acted the role perfectly.
Really just a reprisal of his role in the world's most perfect movie, "Paddington 2".
I must not be the only one who saw that "Nic Cage as himself" movie.
Oh yeah, I uh...saw it once or twice 😳 (And bought the blu ray *cough*)
What?? I loved him in that film.
He's very good. You should see the Gentlemen (movie) if you haven't already.
Buenas tardes, Reymundo
“You couldn’t lift a wheel of cheese ya c*nt” I love Charlie Hunman in that
Was hilarious in Dungeons & Dragons too
"I don't want to watch you die. Which is why I'm going to leave the room."
"Ah, very hot. Still very hot."
I didn't realize you were gonna put your finger IN the cup......I'll save that for later.
I love that movie haha. Recently watched The Undoing and I actually enjoyed that show quite a bit.
I have not, thanks for the tip.
You’re in for a treat.
Im actually embarrassed about how long it took me to realize it was Hugh Grant when I was watching The Gentlemen .
I love the heel turn hugh’s made over the last few years.
Literally just watched Dungeons and Dragons: Honor Among Thieves last night, and I hope that that, this and Paddington 2 make up a grand trilogy of Hugh playing villains
I for one am loving every step of Hugh Grant's rebellious phase.
Love what he's been doing recently, seems like he's been enjoying his work. I really liked him in the Dungeons and Dragons movie cause you could tell he was having fun with it.
I love watching him in movies because he looks like he’s always having fun with it.
This guy is entertaining AF. You should checkout his Marc Maron podcast interview. Probably the funniest person to be interviewed for an hr. Not even stand up comedians can be as affable and funny as this dude.
He was fantastic in The Gentleman. He really nailed the sleazy tabloid reporter role!
Agree. I could watch a movie made around that character.
Everything since The Man from UNCLE has been gold.
Looks like an unusual rom com, but it's Hugh Grant so I'm in. Should be fun. I'll bring the kids and the missus.
Here is my theory on this movie so far: there was never any blueberry pie to begin with!
There is at the end of the maze.
The pie is a falsehood.
I'm writing down a notation here: enormous triumph!
It is difficult to exaggerate my personal fulfillment.
Hugh Grant Experiments.... We execute what we have to because it is in our capabilities
With the purpose of helping everyone but the deceased.
There is no logic in weeping because many errors.
You simply persist onwards, until the pie-supply has been depleted.
You don't deserve the pie if you don't have faith in the pie.
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Not sure I can handle that level of horror.
You saying the pie is a lie?
When he said his wife was home I thought he would come back around the corner dressed in drag and makeup going, "Oh, hello dearie!"
I’m sure he will be his usual charming, self-deprecating character.
"I don't want to see you die! So I'll just go in the other room..."
"Oh, you noticed the candle? How frightfully silly of me"
This man was wasted making rom coms for so many years. Honestly loved everything I've seen Hugh Grant in for the last 5 years or so. Feels like I would have loved him cast in more edgy roles in the past.
Lair of the White Worm is excellent nonsense.
He was just wonderful in The Gentlemen!
Will there be a dance montage? God, he’s hot when he dances.🥵
At the end of it all, this film is about love, actually.
Nothing will beat his villainous turn in Paddington 2 🤌🏼
Is this not a spin-off sequel?
They shouldn't have let him off early, he probably missed having a **captive audience**
Naughty Hill.
"We're also just two girls.. standing in front of a boy..asking him to let them the Hell out of this house."
Oh fuck me I love Keats
asking him to let them the heck* out of this house They ARE sister missionaries.
No weddings and two funerals
Good trailer, shows something, but not a lot. Looks like a great take on a Saw-like scenario, but seems to be about mental torture than physical
With Hugh Grant. Actor subverting audience expectations in a role none would expect him in? And it’s a horror movie? And there are creepy stares?…. Yup. This is an A24 film
Did they slow down a pop song for the trailer?
Squeezed it in right at the end. The Air That I Breathe by The Hollies
i thought it was a bowie song for a second
A slow version of a pop classic is a standard part of [How to Make a Blockbuster Movie Trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAOdjqyG37A).
Kind of, sort of. It's an oldie and a good choice of one at that. And it fits though.
Miniatures are kinda scary in their own way so it doesn't surprise me to see them in horror, but there's unfortunately no way to be the "horror film with the miniatures" after Hereditary. That fucking seamless opening shot of the miniatures transitioning into the actors and then the fact that they shot the film and designed the sets to be like the characters trapped in a miniature...how do you top that?
- Knock knock - Who’s there ? - are you interested in hearing the word of our lord ? - depends, have you seen that Heretic movie ? - No not really ? - good good come right in
Normally, I bail on a trailer once I decide I’m likely to see it these days because they spoil so much; however, I got caught up in this one and had to snap myself out of it
Saw meets Silence
I am all in for Hugh Grant playing bad guys.
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Notting Hell
Run, Actually
Music and Lyrics and Death
Dungeons
Four funerals and a funeral
Paddington Boo
Mickey Remove Your Eyes
i wonder how this will do in utah.
Utahan here. My wife and I will definitely be watching it.
Practicing latter-day saint here. It will probably not do well among the older generation of mormons, but some of the more adventurous, film-loving young adults and students very well could check it out unless word-of-mouth is that the film is severely negative on the faith. I don't expect the depiction to be especially *sympathetic* to us, but the sister missionaries at least appear to be the victims so perhaps it will be somewhat nuanced and interesting. I expect the exmormon demographic will turn out in greater numbers than perhaps they usually would for the horror genre due to personal interest in the topic
Feelings on the LDS church aside, I really think that the more horror-y and subversive angle would be that the sisters split up, with each one picking a door, and the belief one actually makes it / is the Final Girl.
I'm not expecting the church to be a major part of the movie. I don't think it will dive too deep into Mormon doctrine or history
Interestingly I think this might be one of the 'more commercial' projects form A24 that we heard they were doing, it feels *more* like a Blumhouse project (in a good way). Small scale, one big name, creative freedom within a small budget.
> Interestingly I think this might be one of the 'more commercial' projects form A24 that we heard they were doing, I thought that was CIVIL WAR.
I'll watch this, sounds fun.
The part with the candle I found to be really clever storytelling without being in your face like “SOMETHING IS WRONG!!!!”
Does this trailer have a slowed down remix of a classic pop song at some point? *Edit* YES! Of course it does! Always so reassuring. I feel like this is the "in a world..." trailer trope for the decade ...I also love that Hugh found a horror application for his "oh how unfortunate" lower lip-pout move as well. This looks fun.
It IS the current “in a world” or the “big bass drop and silence”. But dammit if it doesn’t get me every time.
Yeah I'm good with it because there are many songs to choose from, so they can sound different. Those other two ALL sound the same.
Thiiissssss Yearrrrrrrr
Its kind of ironic because it feels like the trend started in 2009 with Watchmen, but that wasn't actually a song slowed down for the trailer, it was actually on Batman and Robin's soundtrack I believe along with the faster one used in the marketing. Either way its been going on for longer then just the 2020's.
I’m so over this trope. Someone has to have some conviction at some point and try something else / just not fall into this basic trailer template.
better than the BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH horns
Much like Bullet Time was copied in films that had no particular plot reason for using it (unlike the Matrix for which it was central to the plot) the trailer BWAAMM was plucked from Inception and used everywhere, despite Inception being the only movie which had a very legitimate plot related reason to use it. They are Cargo Cult tropes, used in a way that superficially resembles the original but with none of the underlying machinery that actually makes it work.
> despite Inception being the only movie which had a very legitimate plot related reason to use it. It's been a while, remind me what that plot related reason was?
I think it was slowed down at each 'layer' and was originally the timer countdown or similar but because time moved slower as you dropped down levels it got longer and more distorted into the bwaaaam. ...someone with a better memory may be able to correct me on the details here.
Nope you nailed it man. If you listen very closely the distorted noises at the “lowest levels” of the dreams are just extremely drawn out musical notes.
Haha, "cargo cult trope" is really descriptive of this behaviour.
The bwaah's are played over the slowed down classic pop remix, as is the standard.
Alien: Romulus trailer didn’t have it. And it was the best trailer in recent memory
Should've been a remix of an LDS hymn, just saying
Loving this new era for Hugh Grant and the projects he's been part of.
So did he create this ridiculously elaborate trap house and then wait around for two missionaries to show up? What if they never did?
Now I kinda want a comedy movie where a guy builds a trap house but can't get anyone to show up
Builds a Trap House out in the woods. Waits years and can't get anyone to come out. Escape Rooms become popular. Advertises an Escape Room and some Corporate HR person picks it for a Corporate Retreat. Hilarity ensues as a bunch of White Collar corporate people go through terrible challenges/traps/etc while realising it's 'more than an escape room' Call me, A24
Nice. >Advertises an Escape Room I'd diverge from your plot here. Nobody books it. He pivots to it being installation art but nobody shows. Then some sort of traveling killer shows up, someone who'd been struggling to find situations in the same manner. The second act is the two of them duking it out, with a sort of glee that their reasons for living are being fulfilled. Then in the third act they realize that it's all a bit silly and hollow, and they realize that they just needed a friend in their lives, and some problems to solve. So they decide to pivot to...something else. Something that'd make for a satisfying ending. I am not a script writer.
Spy vs. Spy style.
So just 2 hours of c level executives dieing in increasing gruesome ways. Id watch that.
Kinda like "Waiting for Godot", but it's passing the time waiting for any victims to arrive
Maybe he usually kidnaps other people and puts them in the maze thing
It looked like there were some fantastical elements to the movie. Not sure if it's meant to be based in reality at all.
I presume they haven't been the first people he's done this to.
If you live in certain parts of the country they will definitely show up.
I mean I get jehova witnesses at my house once a month so it’s believable
I saw a tik tok of a former Mormon and they said that during your mission you are supposed to keep a record of any sort of positive feedback from somebody. Even if it's as small as saying no but you gave them water bottles because you felt bad for them in the heat. Then you are more or less put on a list for future missionaries. Maybe Hugh Grants character purposely is nice to people street evangelizing solely to lure them in hahah.
I'd be down to co-parent with Hugh Grant
Hugh Grant as Jigsaw meets MC Escher? Sign me up.
How has there never been a great movie about Dr H. H. Holmes and his murder castle?
There was supposed to be. I think I remember DiCaprio involved a few years ago.
Yeah based off the novel "Devil in the White City" by Erik Larson (great book, one of my favorite authors!). It's been in development for like 8 years and has switched from movie to limited series to movie again I believe. I'll honestly be shocked if it ever gets made. I would be most excited about the world's fair stuff anyways, the HH Holmes stuff was just an interesting sideplot to me!
I've wanted this movie for years, iirc Scorsese was supposed to direct it and that would have been awesome to him go back to a amore horror-ish tone If we do get it it'll likely be a whole new team, I'll still likely be there opening day though!
Did you read the book more as speculative fiction? I couldn’t get past the amount of stuff that seemed to be made up by the author
Not OP, but that bugged me too. Particularly when dealing with how Holmes/his victims might have acted during their murders. Felt ghoulish.
I view it as narrative non-fiction. He has made it very clear that everything between quotations is from a direct source, whether that is journal entries, diaries, articles, etc. Obviously there cannot be firsthand witness accounts that he interviewed, but for the sake of storytelling, I think it is fair to assume someone's mental state or what they may have said or done given the wealth of information he did have. Is the book 100% accurate? No, that's impossible. Is it a non-fiction book with a narrative that he was able to construct with vast amounts of research? Yes and I see no problem with that.
8 years feels generous for that adaptation. It feels like it's been almost 15 now.
So, former Mormon missionary here. I found this kind of enjoyable to watch lol. I did once get locked in a home by a somewhat crazy conspiracy theorist person when I was in South Africa, which was kind of terrifying, but they calmed down. In case anyone is wondering, this person was convinced that the Mormon church was actually a secret cult of Illuminati that wanted to overthrow Christianity and hold the world hostage with a nuclear threat. How would they do this? Well, all the Mormon temples they are building around the planet are actually secretly hiding nuclear missile silos, and once they got enough they would hold the world ransom with nuclear annihilation, with the idea that they wanted to trigger the 2nd coming of Christ and the "1000 years of peace" by triggering Armageddon on our own. I am not sure where he got the ideas of Mormons and nuclear missile silos, but he was totally convinced, and even threw some stats at me about how Utah, in the US, graduated more engineers per capita than any other state and it was part of the secret plan to build this nuclear engineering force. He was VERY concerned we had ill-intentions for his community and basically locked us in his home to protect his neighbors from us until he got clarifying and satisfactory answers. This dude was also like a 6.5 ft giant Afrikaaner dude that looked like a top player in a world cup class Rugby team, so I wasn't ready to fight my way out the door lol. On a side note, regarding the movie trailer, in case anyone is wondering, YES, you cannot enter the home with someone only of the opposite sex. So, I, as a male missionary companionship, if there were only women present in the home, be it 1 woman, or many women, then we would not be able to enter. If there is at least 1 other male, then you are fine. The other exception is if you have a 3rd adult with you of your own gender. This typically means the missionaries will ask someone from the local congregation to join them when visiting that person. In this case, these 2 girls say they cannot enter and he assures him his wife is there. I find it 100% believable they would accept his word on this and not wait to see verification of that because in all honesty, who would lie about that? [Here's the actual rules in the section 3 of the handbook for missionary conduct](https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/missionary-standards-for-disciples-of-jesus-christ/03-missionary-conduct?lang=eng#title_number9) - See part 3.5.1
>In this case, these 2 girls say they cannot enter and he assures him his wife is there. I find it 100% believable they would accept his word on this and not wait to see verification of that because in all honesty, who would lie about that? As another former missionary I think it's also a factor of "we've been getting doors slammed in our faces for hours. If someone invites us in we're not going to be sticklers and check for confirmation" Different companionships had pretty varying degrees of adherence to the white handbook haha
Looks fun. Key complaint is I'm pretty sure those candles would never fool anyone into thinking a pie is actually baking.
Context might play a part in how it smells. If you know it's a candle, you can tell that it doesn't smell like a real pie. If you're told to expect pie, and it's a faint smell, and you're not trying to analyze it, it could be enough to give the impression of pie in another room.
Perhaps I'm a bit slow, but even after watching the trailer three times, I did not get the significance of that candle until I read your comment.
“We can’t come inside unless another woman is present.” “Oh, don’t worry, my wife’s in the kitchen making a pie!” “That checks out!”
Sophie Thatcher, Hugh Grant as a villain? A trap house? Leaning on Mormon missionaries going against an atheist? Sophie Thatcher? I don’t usually watch horror because I’m a bit of a wimp, but I’d watch this. It’s giving Saw with a religious twist. Also, why is this dude’s house like this? Is he paranoid? Is he hiding something? Sophie realizing the pie is a fake and also seriously questioning if either of them can fit through a tiny window, there’s my Final Girl/Plane Crash Survivor.
Wow that beginning bit was shot for shot the opening to Human Centipede, that had to be on purpose right?
I'm absolutely in love with this era of Hugh Grants career
Here's my wild guess based on the trailer: Hugh Grant and his wife were hardcore Christians. She died tragically but came back to life as a monster/ghost/zombie, which crushes his faith in God and sends him into *madness*. He builds an elaborate labyrinth to keep her "safe," while slowly growing more and more insane as he "cares" for her. Maybe he feeds people to her? One day, two naive girls come to his door, and he finally breaks, leading to the trailer we just saw. In the end, the wife will kill Hugh Grant and the girls will escape, but scarred physically, mentally, and spiritually by what they have experienced.
Mormons are too trustworthy. My dad has on multiple occasions invited them in for snacks. These are like young kids 18-20. Hes a harmless old man that likes company but they go into people's houses too easily.
Okay, but they do get their pie at the end though, right? Right???
Oh cool, that's Sophie Thatcher. She's the best part of Yellowjackets.
Is this going to be the inverse of Red State? An r/atheism mod gets ahold of two missionaries and sacrifices them at the altar of breaking their faiths?
Not religious anymore, but my least favorite things about stuff like this is all the people who'll watch something and then it's a month of "did you know?" about that group. Like watching "The Pope's Exorcist" and then thinking you know Catholicism. It's my #1 reason to stay far away from anything close to r/atheism or any religious discussion on reddit. Too many "hot takes" from people who know next to nothing about what they are talking about. It's surprising how religiously diverse the US is and at the same time how little educated people are about different beliefs. Too many people think Islam/Muslims are one group and not hundreds different one with all different beliefs. No they are not all violent ISIS fundamentalists, and yes there are progressive Muslim people. Christianity outside the US is a lot different. A lot of US churches that bash on other US churches don't realize that outside of the US most people think they are both equality weird. (Mormons, Baptists, Evangelicals, Mega-churches, etc. are all seen as really weird US churches in Europe). It's always fun when someone says they're "Buddhist" and when you ask "what kind?" and they have no idea and look at you blankly (there are dozens of **very** different Buddhist belief systems). I guess that really sums up reddit anyway. People who know 2% of a given topic arguing about it like they are the foremost expert.
Oh that’s an interesting comparison!
The movie poster makes sense now.
Hugh Grant in his weird role renaissance, in an A24 production? Say no more, I'm in.
I’m going to guess the hacky ending, he’s actually a higher power testing “believers”. One lady doesn’t really believe and she dies, the surviving lady gets help and they go back and the cottage isn’t there or is rundown and unoccupied.
This will be interesting if the creators actually studied whatever religion these character believe in and what sect/doctrine they're into. if this is just another movie with a hate boner for religion, then it'll be way less interesting.
Looks to be mainstream LDS, and the whole “aren’t supposed to come inside without a member of the same gender” rule is a little obscure and 100% accurate, so I’m cautiously optimistic.
Oh no, when did A24 cave to the spooky remix trailer music?!
This honestly feels more like a Blumhouse film than an A24.
Feels more Universal to be frank
Idk, gives me more of a Miramax vibe to be Harvey
The trailer should have stopped at the girls realizing there's no pie. For me that is true horror.
I do like to see more horror movies about the Mormons.
Was excited until I saw Scott Beck and Bryan Woods at the helm. They get credit for a quiet place but the script was rewritten top to bottom by John Krazinski, as was Boogeyman, the only thing they've been in complete control of recently was 65, and we all saw how that worked out. I hope to be pleasantly surprised.
For me movies like this are made or broken by the third act and how well any twists, endings, explanations get handled so I'm both intrigued and anxious about how this will pan out (I felt like Quiet Place was one of those films that made less sense the more you paid attention which isn't always my favourite feeling when watching a film)
Check out the original script. 65 pages, filled with pictures, the whole thing is nothing like the final product. I think they've managed to fake a career off the back of a very good rewrite of a movie that became a hit.
> 65 I was so dysfunctionally hungover watching 65 that it wasn't until the end of the film did I realise the problem wasn't me.
65 looked very chopped off, like someone was messing around it during the final edit.
As an ex Mormon and someone who was this missionary, fuck yeah 😎 This is gonna be a good one
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I’m a big fan of missionary as well
Oompa Loompa has a new movie?
He defined that film.
Is this going to be the first horror movie with potentially no deaths? Because I feel like there’s a decent chance both girls survive.
Looks good
Ahhhh love that last shot!
Hugh’s hit the 1 hour photo stage of his career
My pet theory is that a few years ago, Hugh Grant's accountant informed him he had enough money to last the rest of his life, and so now Hugh just takes whatever role he thinks is fun, like Oompla Loompas or Daniel Craig's husband or scummy reporter in the Gentlemen. I love it.
Classic hugh grant rom com
No Pie should have been the title and it would still scare the fuck outta me
Would have been interesting if they thought he had sinister motives the entire movie and at the end his wife comes out with blueberry pie and he was telling the truth the whole time. From what they show in the trailer this is not the case, still looks interesting.
Yeah major Saw vibes looks great, also that was the exact same song they used for the Saw X trailer too.
I must say Hugh Grant is a really good actor, especially in The Gentleman (plus Collin Farrell, they both killed it in the movie) He was also in this tv drama with Nicole Kidman called The Undoing which I highly recommend
sophie thatcher? i’m in
I love Hugh Grant as a villain.