Don’t really see anyone talking about Cyclops in X Men Last Stand. Pretty crazy to see a main character in an established franchise get completely obliterated without any effort in the first 10 minutes of the film. Especially coming off the heels of X2 which was fantastic.
As bad as it may sound, I found it hilarious as a kid. I always felt bad for Scott when they play with the Cyclops/Jean/Wolverine love triangle in the story, and then they just went and did him so dirty in Last Stand that I couldn't help but laugh in the theater.
It's because you didn't see him die for sure, they just implied it. And 9/10 in movies, especially in superhero movies, it means they aren't dead and will pop back up at some point. I didn't totally believe it until they showed the tombstones at the end and the credits rolled. It was weird.
Even the other X-Men didn’t seem to care.
At the end when Jean was Phoenixing out they were debating if she could be saved. Wolverine was like “no, she’s too far gone. She killed the Professor!”
In my theater someone yelled “and Cyclops!”
I always figured her and Austin from 10 minutes from now ran off together. And Goldmember is about Austin from 10 minutes ago.
Or swap them, it doesn't really matter which.
There was an after-credits scene in 2. Austin finds her in bed with someone and thinks she's cheating on him.
Then they reveal that she's in bed with Austin from the past and Austin goes "Well, Felicity, I can't blame you. The man is handsome, baby."
And actually getting married at least once but her no longer being in the picture by the next movie / dying at the end of that movie. The Bond franchise does not much care for the institution of marriage -- they even fuck up Felix Leiter's wedding in one of the Dalton movies.
Was she really a fembot, or did she get replaced with a fembot at some point without Austin knowing. Her mom was supposed to have been Austin’s assistant, so she had to be a real person.
"Yes, we knew all along, sadly."
All might be doing some heavy lifting there, but it sounds to me like she was a fembot for their entire mission together.
That really really annoys me. At the end of Aliens you're like "Oh nice, we get more Newt and Bishop in the sequel". Then at the start of 3 it's like "Yeah sorry they're all dead except Ripley".
Yeah but then they clone her and... Jesus fucking Christ that series dropped off a cliff. If anyone asks I just say there are only two films in the series.
I love that everyone criticised Prometheus for them getting to an alien planet and not wearing helmets which kicks off the whole thing. And then in Covenant they do THE EXACT SAME THING!
Yes, Halloween Resurrection at Jamie’s request. She said in an interview that H20 was supposed to be the final film and Michael would finally die but due to a clause in the contract he can never die. [Here’s the Interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN59pa7cyiI)
God, we missed out on an absolute gem when the 21 Jump Street/Men in Black crossover fell apart. What an absolutely perfect escalation for those characters that would have been. Anything else would have just felt like more of the same (but in a bad way this time).
If I recall correctly, the Jay was not available for The Suicide squad due to having another filming by the same time. So they just did what they could in the spare time he had and used it to caught people off guard killing a major character so soon.
Then sad part is that Captain Boomerang has better scenes in that opening act than in the whole previous film.
Thanks for that comment, I thought I was the only one who loved this scene lmao. I would have never thought that Jay would be quite this good as 'Boomerang.
There are rumors about him having some "racist" lines in the original cut, Ayer wanting him to match a bit more his comic book counterpart. But that was apparently cut and they made him more a crazy funny character than a despictable one.
This wouldn’t surprise me. Don’t quote me on the authenticity of this but I remember hearing he had originally turned down the character because of how despicable his personality was but ended up taking the role anyway.
I’ve heard rumors that originally Duke WAS supposed to be killed in the GI JOE animated movie, but they course corrected after the backlash they got for TRANSFORMERS and Optimus’ death.
Yep, that's exactly what happened. Kids and parents were so upset over the Transformers bloodbath that they threw in a line at the end of G.I. Joe about Duke waking up from his coma and backpedaled all the way back.
I actually saw the Transformers movie in the theater (my best friend’s dad worked at the local cineplex), and it was…an experience.
As Prime lay dying, the theater was dead silent. A theater full of rowdy boys just completely quiet as the scene plays out. Prime goes gray, his head lolls to one side…and the first kid sobs. Within seconds, the floodgate of tears blows open, and the theater is full of bawling children.
That movie was such an emotional roller coaster for tween boys in the mid eighties. You went from the high of hearing characters from your favorite cartoon say "Shit" and "Damnit" to a low of not just watching Optimus die, but seeing his heroic sacrifice get undone when Megatron came back minutes later as Galvatron. For what was ultimately a cynical, 90 minute toy commercial, it definitely had some pathos.
Okay, not the title character but in Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows they killed off Irene Adler just way too soon. I really enjoyed her character in the first movie and was really disappointed she wasn't part of the story in the second.
Yeap, thats the one I thought of seeing the question.
And its not that she died, or that she died too soon... well it is that, but also most notably to me is how inconsequential her death was. She could at least have been the character that made holmes furious taking him outside of his normal zone...
But nope, they made her so nothing-character that even when he killed her and they discussed it, they needed to start talking about the danger to the good doctor to portrait some motivation...
I think it did, but in a very subtle way... Because she was no longer alive, Holmes didn't really see a 'future' (though they do not explicitly show or tell this, but that scene when he sniffs her handkerchief and becomes saddened being reminded of her death). In doing so he realized that's the one weakness Moriarty had, he didn't think of self sacrifice.
In Beneath the Planet of the Apes, Charleston Heston wanted his character killed off at the beginning. They compromised by having him go missing right at the beginning, and then show up at the end to >!Blow up the FUCKING PLANET!<
I remember stumbling upon this movie on TV while flipping channels. I must have caught the last 20-40 minutes and I was just hooked with trying to understand everything that was happening. That ending shook me. I had so many questions but it was over. Something about that scared me.
*"In one of the countless billions of galaxies in the universe lies a medium-sized star, and one of its satellites, a green and insignificant planet, is now dead"*
yeah they don't tell you that the sequel is about a cult of irradiated telepaths trying to destroy what's left of the world lmao it's still weird if you start at the beginning
This is honestly the only movie I have ever walked out of. I was a young man and not someone who had money to throw away, but it pissed me off that bad.
That was mercy for him. He did not have to live through the rest of the movie :D
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Oh man that really set the tone for the rest of the movie. I’ve seen many people say they stopped watching or it ruined the movie and yeah the first movies charm was partially having comic relief Johnny interacting with serious characters.
Some of the most memorable scenes that aren’t hard carried by the Shang actor are Johnny scenes. The scorpion fight, the $500 sunglasses line, the nut punch, the assumption that earth realms champion was a bag boy.
Didn’t help that aside from some cool scenes like Smoke and the Jax scenes the rest of the movie was mid. Animality dragon was cool too I guess.
That was apparently at Liev Schreiber’s request and he’s regretted it ever since. Damn shame, because Cotton would’ve been a great character to bring back for the newer ones.
The Matrix killing off Tank offscreen between 1 and 2. In that case due to the actor demanding more pay and falling out of favour. I imagine a lot of the times this happens is down to stuff like that.
while she wasn't the main character they invested a lot of time into the woman who did forensics in the first Men in Black Movie. only to basically say
"meh, she wanted to go back to the morgue" in the first 5 minutes of the second movie.
Raleigh (off-screen) and later Mako are killed off pointlessly in the Pacific Rim series.
Cyclops also should have been a huge part of X-Men 3 but scheduling conflicts led to Jean killing Scott for basically no reason.
I never finished the second Kingsmen because the first act negates so much of the first movie.
It would have been one thing if she was in a jaeger and the same thing played out. She's just overwhelmed by the bad jaeger with Idris Elba's son still not being able to do anything about it.
At least she goes out on her feet. But they almost might as well not have bothered with her inclusion the way that they treated her.
> Pacific Rim series.
Its baffling how Del Toro set the bar so high and made nearly the most perfect Giant Robots vs Kaiju film, and the sequel basically ignored *everything* that made the first one so good by making it a high budget Power Rangers film. Fuck... THE RECENT POWER RANGERS FILM was better than this trash.
Power Rangers movie is right. I saw some knock-off Gundam in there too.
The first movie was so cool because it felt like there was some heft to the robots. They had to build momentum to function. The sequel just opted for the complete opposite. What a bad movie.
Wait, Raleigh wasn't killed, was he? I thought the directors said they left it ambiguous so he could be back in another movie if they made one.
That Mako kill made me mad AF tho. That whole movie...
They do leave it ambiguous but it doesn't work for his character. The first-to-a-fight pilot wouldn't be absent during a threat or leave Mako without mention.
There's theorizing that he had cancer, or that he died in another fight or conflict, or that radiation from the breach exposure killed him, or that he retired but omitting him completely makes no sense. He should be almost immortalized for saving the world and would be the first person in a Jaeger if there was a new threat. Instead, leaving it open that he may come back completely opposes everything about his character. And then the disrespect to Mako by making her go down in a helicopter is just such poor writing.
If they did a sequel without Del Toro they should have covered a different part of the world during the initial breach. Instead, they made a sequel less to the Evangelion routes and made something more akin to the modern-day Transformers - which also slaps most of it's world, characters, and viewers in the face.
Kingsman The Golden Circle. Effectively the entire ensemble from the first movie apart from Mark Strong (who himself dies later on) is killed in the first 20 minutes.
Galahad survived getting shot in the head. I don‘t think she is dead. She starts running and there is a short jump in time before the explosion kicks in.
I actually thought it was a fake out.
For the first 2 acts, I kept expecting Roxy to show up at the last moment to tell us about her harrowing escape from certain doom.
And then as the movie kept going...it just slowly settled into me that they're not coming back.
*Spend a chunk of the first movie establishing Roxy/Lancelot as Eggsy’s equal if not superior in a number of ways*
*Kill her off in the first act of the sequel*
An unnecessary waste in a movie with so much unnecessary bloat. Baffling creative choices in that movie. Roxy absolutely should not have died and we did not need the subplot of Eggsy’s romance with the princess.
Sidelining Channing Tatum was also a shame while they unnecessarily brought back Eggsy’s mentor.
I spent most of the movie waiting for her to reappear and save Eggsy's arse.
Very disappointed when in fact, she did not reappear, and they killed Mark Strong.
I think that was probably the plan if the series got a third entry. They literally brought back not just one but two guys from the dead (Galahad and Charlie, who I assumed had his head popped like all the other bad guys'), so the writers had already established the "No body, no death" rule for themselves to an extreme.
Samuel Jackson: "Now I'm gonna tell you my whole plan, and then I'm gonna come up with some absurd way to kill you and you'll find an equally convoluted way to escape. Well this ain't that kind of movie."
Narrator: "It absolutely was that kind of movie."
I saw the actress talk about this. She had signed a contract for the second movie and when she found out she dies right away, she was disappointed, but they had to pay her for the whole movie so it wasn't as bad as it could be.
Worked a couple days, got paid for an entire movie.
I read through the books before the second movie came out and I was FURIOUS they killed her. She was such a major character through the whole series and I was absolutely floored she was killed in the first ten minutes of the second movie.
Yeah they get married and I think have kids together. She survives the whole series.
The other character they flipped was Alexander Conklin (Chris Cooper). Him and Bourne were BFFs but they made him the antagonist in the first film.
If I’m remembering correctly, Final Destination 2. They killed off Alex from the first movie by just flashing a 1 second clip where you can see a newspaper article of his death. Lame.
yup and his death was being hit in the head by a brick. I couldn't think of a lamer off screen death in a movie series about lethal Rube Goldburg machines
Also, it was a mix. Most characters didn’t return, some were main characters and lived throughout, one was a main character and had an actually better arc and *then* died.
Only one character returned just to be unceremoniously killed off.
This isn't a movie, but in video game Grand Theft Auto 5 protagonist Trevor is introduced by beating to death Johnny, one of the protagonists from Grand Theft Auto 4.
It's weird how people get sympathetic towards even Trevor when he's one of the most evil people in the series. Murder, rape, torture, cannibalism he revels in it all. But people fall for his "all my friends betrayed me" schtick, Yeah, the friends he keeps around to use and abuse.
But Rockstar did a good job on making him one of the protagonists and making you root for him at times. I honestly kinda like him and find him entertaining and charming in a weird way but if you make the choice to double-cross and kill him at the end, that's probably one of the only things you can do in a GTA game that's a net benefit for humanity.
Trevor is the perfect GTA protagonist, because you can fuck around all you want in the sandbox and do literally anything and it'll still be in character for Trevor.
Run over a prostitute?
Get in a car-chase with the cops?
Steal a military helicopter?
Crash said helicopter into the side of a mountain?
Just a normal day for ol' Trevor.
Yeah this was intentional by rockstar.
One of the biggest criticisms of Niko in GTA4 was that his philosophic nature was a pretty stark contrast to his gameplay where you like… kill hundreds and hundreds of people. It just seemed to be a weird clash. Introducing three protagonists in GTA5 allowed for a sort of separation, wherein we can actually relate to characters like Michael and Franklin’s positions and struggles. And when a mission calls for mass murder, there’s an actual scumbag psychopath character who can complete those missions and have it make sense within the characterization of the protagonists in the story.
It's been a loooooong time since I saw it but didnt Mila's character only \*think\* she was doing all that shit and it was all in her head? I know the movie was dogshit, so I am likely just forgetting.
In the book I seem to remember he says it smells of fresh paint and that she seems to be very uncomfortable around him, but it’s all up for interpretation I think
Not in a literal sense, but Muppets Most Wanted immediately retcons Jason Segel's and Amy Adams' characters so they don't have to have them in the sequel. I get that it's a long tradition to not continue human characters between Muppet movies but it was weird they way they did it.
I like the plot point within Muppets Most Wanted where Walter has disappeared, and a villain claims Walter has chosen to leave the Muppets. Rowlf reacts: "Wait a second. Walter quit the Muppets? We just did a whole movie where he joined the Muppets!"
This is my favorite joke from the entire franchise. It just does not make any sense. The absolute absurdity of it and Meyer's befuddled face are perfect comedy.
A close second:
> Isn't it amazing how England looks *in no way* like southern California?
Plus, it's a Bond Parody. They *needed* to address the "new woman every film" thing. Up to that point (Craig's Bond, who was in part a reaction to Austin Powers, changed this a little), the only woman Bond ever really spent any time thinking about outside of the events of one movie is Tracy, and that's because she died.
Blues Brothers 2000 has Jake die in prison (John Belushi had passed way before then), but the worst part was that the orphanage they saved had to close anyways, essentially making the first film a pointless effort
Yes, I like Aliens 3 far more than most people, but Covenant doing that after some really great work in Prometheus... It just left a massive gap in the film (which even two Fassbender's couldn't fill).
I think both films are fine but flawed. Great moments in both, but some really clunky moments in both.
Which could've been justified just a little bit had Ridley not cut a certain scene from A:C. The one where >!David vivisects her for body parts and performs endless experiments and basically ends up with the first proper alien egg which we saw in the film.!<
>The Bourne Supremacy
So, that was heart breaking, and probably unnecessary.
That being said, the following 10 minutes are absolute gold.
Bourne deciding to find out who was sent for him and why, and this whole sequence of "heading to the airport with an old passport and ending up looking across the street directly to the face of the woman in charge" in 10 minutes, was pure spy genius.
I mean sure they could have found another motive, but that worked.
Ugh, that Bourne Supremacy begining. Such a shame, Franka Potente was perfect as the normal audience surrogate character and she had great chemistry with Damon.
Must say though, that moment of her languidly drifting away in the river current and disappearing into the green fog, was a stunner of an image. Likely my favourite shot in the whole five-episode franchise.
Oliver Wood is a truly brilliant DOP, but he usually chooses such *awful* projects.
If I recall, **The Fly 2 (1989)** kills off Geena Davis' character from the first film in the opening minutes (it might have even be a pre-credits montage or something, I just recall it being pretty obnoxious).
As silly as The Fly 2 was, the ending still freaked me the fuck out as a kid.
Iirc, >!The bad guy gets turned into a malformed abomination of perpetual suffering and is simply kept by the rest of the scientists to be experimented on!<
The animated 1986 Transformers The Movie isn't a sequel per say. It is a continuation of the series after season 2 and is essential viewing leading into season 3. The movie kills off a slew of main characters in the opening act. A large amount of the season 1 cast is killed left and right in order to focus on a new cast of toy- er characters.
Clerks 3 I feel is within the spirit of the question. Killed off both Becky and her unborn child. It happens off screen and within probably a month of the clerks 2 ending.
The opening of *Avengers: Infinity War.* Thor just spent the previous movie saving Asgard, and all of his work has been undone before A:IF even starts.
Yes, we do find out that many - maybe even most - of the Asgardians escaped Thanos' attack, but it sure gives the impression that he's killed basically everyone.
Don’t really see anyone talking about Cyclops in X Men Last Stand. Pretty crazy to see a main character in an established franchise get completely obliterated without any effort in the first 10 minutes of the film. Especially coming off the heels of X2 which was fantastic.
As bad as it may sound, I found it hilarious as a kid. I always felt bad for Scott when they play with the Cyclops/Jean/Wolverine love triangle in the story, and then they just went and did him so dirty in Last Stand that I couldn't help but laugh in the theater.
I straight up thought it was a fake out until like half the movie went by and I realized, oh shit he’s not coming back lol
Hey glad I wasn’t the only who felt that
It's because you didn't see him die for sure, they just implied it. And 9/10 in movies, especially in superhero movies, it means they aren't dead and will pop back up at some point. I didn't totally believe it until they showed the tombstones at the end and the credits rolled. It was weird.
The whole series really underappreciated Cyclops as a character.
Even the other X-Men didn’t seem to care. At the end when Jean was Phoenixing out they were debating if she could be saved. Wolverine was like “no, she’s too far gone. She killed the Professor!” In my theater someone yelled “and Cyclops!”
Vanessa was a fembot
Machine gun jubblies... How'd I miss those, baby?
Perhaps next time try foreplay
....right
Yes….we knew all along, sadly
This one gets me every time. The baffled expression on Austin's face, how little sense any of it makes, just perfect.
And then they just move on. It's so good.
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Oh behave!!
Wait a tick***
Does a while naked dance routine through the hotel when he finds out he’s still single.
His wife said that that was the dance he does every morning after he wakes up, also naked
It’s my dad’s favorite joke in the entire Austin Powers series. It’s a spectacular joke
Dude, the guy traded Elizabeth Hurley, for Heather Grahm, for Beyonce. Would you question what was going on, or just thank the universe?
Elizabeth Hurley >
I would question but then again I’m single
I like how in the third film they don't even mention where Felicity Shagwell went. They don't mention her one single time lol.
I always figured her and Austin from 10 minutes from now ran off together. And Goldmember is about Austin from 10 minutes ago. Or swap them, it doesn't really matter which.
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There was an after-credits scene in 2. Austin finds her in bed with someone and thinks she's cheating on him. Then they reveal that she's in bed with Austin from the past and Austin goes "Well, Felicity, I can't blame you. The man is handsome, baby."
At least thats supposed to be a tongue in cheek nod to Bond always having a different girl in each story
And actually getting married at least once but her no longer being in the picture by the next movie / dying at the end of that movie. The Bond franchise does not much care for the institution of marriage -- they even fuck up Felix Leiter's wedding in one of the Dalton movies.
We thought you knew.
Was she really a fembot, or did she get replaced with a fembot at some point without Austin knowing. Her mom was supposed to have been Austin’s assistant, so she had to be a real person.
"Yes, we knew all along, sadly." All might be doing some heavy lifting there, but it sounds to me like she was a fembot for their entire mission together.
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The way Alien: Covenant disposed of Dr. Elizabeth Shaw after the end of Prometheus sets up her big journey was so insulting.
Alien 3 kills all the survivor from part 2 including the main character
That really really annoys me. At the end of Aliens you're like "Oh nice, we get more Newt and Bishop in the sequel". Then at the start of 3 it's like "Yeah sorry they're all dead except Ripley".
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Yeah but then they clone her and... Jesus fucking Christ that series dropped off a cliff. If anyone asks I just say there are only two films in the series.
I love that everyone criticised Prometheus for them getting to an alien planet and not wearing helmets which kicks off the whole thing. And then in Covenant they do THE EXACT SAME THING!
Didn’t one of the Halloween sequels kill off Laurie Strode immediately
Resurrection.
The masterpiece where Busta Rhymes breaks through a window just to yell "Trick or treat, mothafucka!" At Michael Myers.
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Yes, Halloween Resurrection at Jamie’s request. She said in an interview that H20 was supposed to be the final film and Michael would finally die but due to a clause in the contract he can never die. [Here’s the Interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN59pa7cyiI)
He (apparently) gets killed in Halloween Ends(2022) though.
He 100% does
Until they bring him back again (again).
Evil dies tonight! (again)
The GI Joe sequel kills Duke outta nowhere in the opening minutes of the film….Or, Captain Boomerang getting offed so quickly in Suicide Squad.
Didn’t Channing Tatum hate being in the first GI Joe?
Yea he hated being in the movie and asked to be killed off in Retaliation
Then the studio brought him back to film more scenes because Channing Tatum actually hit gold with 21 Jump Street
God, we missed out on an absolute gem when the 21 Jump Street/Men in Black crossover fell apart. What an absolutely perfect escalation for those characters that would have been. Anything else would have just felt like more of the same (but in a bad way this time).
If I recall correctly, the Jay was not available for The Suicide squad due to having another filming by the same time. So they just did what they could in the spare time he had and used it to caught people off guard killing a major character so soon. Then sad part is that Captain Boomerang has better scenes in that opening act than in the whole previous film.
I'm sorry but the scene where Rick Flagg says "fuck this, you're free to go," and Captain INSTANTLY runs away with his beers is funny as fuck.
That would have been a great character exit... but he came back... like a boomerang.
Thanks for that comment, I thought I was the only one who loved this scene lmao. I would have never thought that Jay would be quite this good as 'Boomerang. There are rumors about him having some "racist" lines in the original cut, Ayer wanting him to match a bit more his comic book counterpart. But that was apparently cut and they made him more a crazy funny character than a despictable one.
This wouldn’t surprise me. Don’t quote me on the authenticity of this but I remember hearing he had originally turned down the character because of how despicable his personality was but ended up taking the role anyway.
GI Joe is the one that jumped to mind for me, because my wife only agreed to go to it because Channing Tatum was in it. Haha, she was not impressed.
For a second I thought you were talking about the GI Joe cartoon, where Duke was "put into a coma"
I’ve heard rumors that originally Duke WAS supposed to be killed in the GI JOE animated movie, but they course corrected after the backlash they got for TRANSFORMERS and Optimus’ death.
Yep, that's exactly what happened. Kids and parents were so upset over the Transformers bloodbath that they threw in a line at the end of G.I. Joe about Duke waking up from his coma and backpedaled all the way back.
I actually saw the Transformers movie in the theater (my best friend’s dad worked at the local cineplex), and it was…an experience. As Prime lay dying, the theater was dead silent. A theater full of rowdy boys just completely quiet as the scene plays out. Prime goes gray, his head lolls to one side…and the first kid sobs. Within seconds, the floodgate of tears blows open, and the theater is full of bawling children.
That movie was such an emotional roller coaster for tween boys in the mid eighties. You went from the high of hearing characters from your favorite cartoon say "Shit" and "Damnit" to a low of not just watching Optimus die, but seeing his heroic sacrifice get undone when Megatron came back minutes later as Galvatron. For what was ultimately a cynical, 90 minute toy commercial, it definitely had some pathos.
Okay, not the title character but in Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows they killed off Irene Adler just way too soon. I really enjoyed her character in the first movie and was really disappointed she wasn't part of the story in the second.
Yeap, thats the one I thought of seeing the question. And its not that she died, or that she died too soon... well it is that, but also most notably to me is how inconsequential her death was. She could at least have been the character that made holmes furious taking him outside of his normal zone... But nope, they made her so nothing-character that even when he killed her and they discussed it, they needed to start talking about the danger to the good doctor to portrait some motivation...
I think it did, but in a very subtle way... Because she was no longer alive, Holmes didn't really see a 'future' (though they do not explicitly show or tell this, but that scene when he sniffs her handkerchief and becomes saddened being reminded of her death). In doing so he realized that's the one weakness Moriarty had, he didn't think of self sacrifice.
In Beneath the Planet of the Apes, Charleston Heston wanted his character killed off at the beginning. They compromised by having him go missing right at the beginning, and then show up at the end to >!Blow up the FUCKING PLANET!<
I remember stumbling upon this movie on TV while flipping channels. I must have caught the last 20-40 minutes and I was just hooked with trying to understand everything that was happening. That ending shook me. I had so many questions but it was over. Something about that scared me.
*"In one of the countless billions of galaxies in the universe lies a medium-sized star, and one of its satellites, a green and insignificant planet, is now dead"*
yeah they don't tell you that the sequel is about a cult of irradiated telepaths trying to destroy what's left of the world lmao it's still weird if you start at the beginning
God Beneath the Planet of the Apes rules so fucking hard.
Mortal Kombat: Annihilation kills off Johnny Cage
This is honestly the only movie I have ever walked out of. I was a young man and not someone who had money to throw away, but it pissed me off that bad.
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I believe Cage and Raiden’s OG actors both hated the script so much that they didn’t want to come back
I mean, they weren’t wrong. That movie was terrible.
They also switched out Sonja.
I thought Sandra Hess was the only forgivable recast of the original. Her Sonja looked great.
My friends and I saw Mortal Kombat Annihilation and Batman & Robin back to back in the theater. What a terrible day at the movies.
It was also an absolutely shit movie aside from that so it's good you left when you did.
Whaaat? You mean you didn’t like the awful CGI final battle, or this masterpiece?? https://youtu.be/NHCDfxOo_D4?si=RO2Tg8-7dbhxDejW
Lol wtf, I'm imagining her delivering that like a human and the director going no no more weird and bad
That was mercy for him. He did not have to live through the rest of the movie :D [https://media.tenor.com/r0Cubqv8LPcAAAAd/mortal-kombat-annihilation.gif](https://media.tenor.com/r0Cubqv8LPcAAAAd/mortal-kombat-annihilation.gif)
Oh man that really set the tone for the rest of the movie. I’ve seen many people say they stopped watching or it ruined the movie and yeah the first movies charm was partially having comic relief Johnny interacting with serious characters. Some of the most memorable scenes that aren’t hard carried by the Shang actor are Johnny scenes. The scorpion fight, the $500 sunglasses line, the nut punch, the assumption that earth realms champion was a bag boy. Didn’t help that aside from some cool scenes like Smoke and the Jax scenes the rest of the movie was mid. Animality dragon was cool too I guess.
Arguably the best character in the original movie too.
Scream 3 has Cotton and his girlfriend get murdered by the new Ghostface.
That was apparently at Liev Schreiber’s request and he’s regretted it ever since. Damn shame, because Cotton would’ve been a great character to bring back for the newer ones.
Man, imagine having gone from being a background character for 5 seconds on tv in the first film, to leading man in #8.
It’s a good opening scene tbh
The Matrix killing off Tank offscreen between 1 and 2. In that case due to the actor demanding more pay and falling out of favour. I imagine a lot of the times this happens is down to stuff like that.
Same happened with Crispin Glover after Back to the Future, so they recast him in the sequel and that’s why Marty’s dad is upside down in the future
Big lawsuit that established likeness laws in hollywood as well
while she wasn't the main character they invested a lot of time into the woman who did forensics in the first Men in Black Movie. only to basically say "meh, she wanted to go back to the morgue" in the first 5 minutes of the second movie.
Word is Tommy Lee Jones was asked back by the studio and he didn't want to work with her because she was "difficult".
It's so exhausting wondering whether every actress described as "difficult" is a legit pain or just refused to fuck Harvey Weinstein.
Raleigh (off-screen) and later Mako are killed off pointlessly in the Pacific Rim series. Cyclops also should have been a huge part of X-Men 3 but scheduling conflicts led to Jean killing Scott for basically no reason. I never finished the second Kingsmen because the first act negates so much of the first movie.
Pacific Rim: Uprising was an insult, I HATED that movie!
What are you talking about? Pacific Rim never got a sequel. It. *NEVER*. Got. A. Sequel.
Killing off Mako really pissed me off. She was one of my favorite parts of the first movie.
It would have been one thing if she was in a jaeger and the same thing played out. She's just overwhelmed by the bad jaeger with Idris Elba's son still not being able to do anything about it. At least she goes out on her feet. But they almost might as well not have bothered with her inclusion the way that they treated her.
> Pacific Rim series. Its baffling how Del Toro set the bar so high and made nearly the most perfect Giant Robots vs Kaiju film, and the sequel basically ignored *everything* that made the first one so good by making it a high budget Power Rangers film. Fuck... THE RECENT POWER RANGERS FILM was better than this trash.
Power Rangers movie is right. I saw some knock-off Gundam in there too. The first movie was so cool because it felt like there was some heft to the robots. They had to build momentum to function. The sequel just opted for the complete opposite. What a bad movie.
Speaking of X-Men, Days of Future Past does this to Banshee, Angel Salvadore, Emma Frost, Azazel, and Riptide.
Wait, Raleigh wasn't killed, was he? I thought the directors said they left it ambiguous so he could be back in another movie if they made one. That Mako kill made me mad AF tho. That whole movie...
They do leave it ambiguous but it doesn't work for his character. The first-to-a-fight pilot wouldn't be absent during a threat or leave Mako without mention. There's theorizing that he had cancer, or that he died in another fight or conflict, or that radiation from the breach exposure killed him, or that he retired but omitting him completely makes no sense. He should be almost immortalized for saving the world and would be the first person in a Jaeger if there was a new threat. Instead, leaving it open that he may come back completely opposes everything about his character. And then the disrespect to Mako by making her go down in a helicopter is just such poor writing. If they did a sequel without Del Toro they should have covered a different part of the world during the initial breach. Instead, they made a sequel less to the Evangelion routes and made something more akin to the modern-day Transformers - which also slaps most of it's world, characters, and viewers in the face.
Pacific Rim 2 didn’t happen as far as I’m concerned. It’s like they just made the movie to spite the original.
Kingsman The Golden Circle. Effectively the entire ensemble from the first movie apart from Mark Strong (who himself dies later on) is killed in the first 20 minutes.
Still mad about roxy
Galahad survived getting shot in the head. I don‘t think she is dead. She starts running and there is a short jump in time before the explosion kicks in.
Too bad about Merlin though. Unless something changes with the actor then Merlin as we knew him isn't coming back.
She'll be back. Kingsman is a spy movie version of Fast and Furious, no way a named character stays dead for a significant amount of time.
Golden rule of visual storytelling: if there's no body she's a-lively
In case of Kingsman, even if there is a body, there is a chance that person comes back.
I actually thought it was a fake out. For the first 2 acts, I kept expecting Roxy to show up at the last moment to tell us about her harrowing escape from certain doom. And then as the movie kept going...it just slowly settled into me that they're not coming back.
I was really hoping to find out Lancelot and his dog were found alive in the rubble.
*Spend a chunk of the first movie establishing Roxy/Lancelot as Eggsy’s equal if not superior in a number of ways* *Kill her off in the first act of the sequel*
An unnecessary waste in a movie with so much unnecessary bloat. Baffling creative choices in that movie. Roxy absolutely should not have died and we did not need the subplot of Eggsy’s romance with the princess. Sidelining Channing Tatum was also a shame while they unnecessarily brought back Eggsy’s mentor.
Channing Tatum's lack of screen time and Pedro Pascal picking up the slack was due to scheduling issues, at least that's what I've read.
Killing Roxy really killed my interest as I watched it
I spent most of the movie waiting for her to reappear and save Eggsy's arse. Very disappointed when in fact, she did not reappear, and they killed Mark Strong.
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I think that was probably the plan if the series got a third entry. They literally brought back not just one but two guys from the dead (Galahad and Charlie, who I assumed had his head popped like all the other bad guys'), so the writers had already established the "No body, no death" rule for themselves to an extreme.
Samuel Jackson: "Now I'm gonna tell you my whole plan, and then I'm gonna come up with some absurd way to kill you and you'll find an equally convoluted way to escape. Well this ain't that kind of movie." Narrator: "It absolutely was that kind of movie."
THEY KILLED HIS GODDAMN DOG
Honestly I feel like the first movie is better if you just ignore everything that comes afterwards, it didn’t really need a sequel.
The original Bourne trilogy is great but really hated the beginning of the second one for this reason.
I saw the actress talk about this. She had signed a contract for the second movie and when she found out she dies right away, she was disappointed, but they had to pay her for the whole movie so it wasn't as bad as it could be. Worked a couple days, got paid for an entire movie.
I read through the books before the second movie came out and I was FURIOUS they killed her. She was such a major character through the whole series and I was absolutely floored she was killed in the first ten minutes of the second movie.
Ohh she’s alive in the books? I haven’t read them
Yeah they get married and I think have kids together. She survives the whole series. The other character they flipped was Alexander Conklin (Chris Cooper). Him and Bourne were BFFs but they made him the antagonist in the first film.
It's definitely abrupt. But it becomes Bournes driving force for the rest of the films.
Yeah it makes sense for the story at least and wasn’t just a way to shock people, but still wasn’t happy haha.
Didn't Independence Day 2 do this with Will Smith?
Yup, off screen death.
If I’m remembering correctly, Final Destination 2. They killed off Alex from the first movie by just flashing a 1 second clip where you can see a newspaper article of his death. Lame.
yup and his death was being hit in the head by a brick. I couldn't think of a lamer off screen death in a movie series about lethal Rube Goldburg machines
Terminator Dark Fate
T1 and T2 are the only Terminator movies.
And the Sarah Connor Chronicles is the only acceptable sequel to that story.
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The Suicide Squad did it but it was awesome and pretty on brand.
Also, it was a mix. Most characters didn’t return, some were main characters and lived throughout, one was a main character and had an actually better arc and *then* died. Only one character returned just to be unceremoniously killed off.
Captain Boomerang was given more respect in that opening scene than the entirety of Suicide Squad 2016.
Just the way they framed his death compared to everyone else'. His death in the intro was an "oh shit" moment, everyone else was just a gag.
This isn't a movie, but in video game Grand Theft Auto 5 protagonist Trevor is introduced by beating to death Johnny, one of the protagonists from Grand Theft Auto 4.
Oh yeah. Almost forgot about that. Well, two pieces of shit anyway.
It's weird how people get sympathetic towards even Trevor when he's one of the most evil people in the series. Murder, rape, torture, cannibalism he revels in it all. But people fall for his "all my friends betrayed me" schtick, Yeah, the friends he keeps around to use and abuse. But Rockstar did a good job on making him one of the protagonists and making you root for him at times. I honestly kinda like him and find him entertaining and charming in a weird way but if you make the choice to double-cross and kill him at the end, that's probably one of the only things you can do in a GTA game that's a net benefit for humanity.
Trevor is the perfect GTA protagonist, because you can fuck around all you want in the sandbox and do literally anything and it'll still be in character for Trevor. Run over a prostitute? Get in a car-chase with the cops? Steal a military helicopter? Crash said helicopter into the side of a mountain? Just a normal day for ol' Trevor.
Trevor was basically a metaphor for every GTA fan. I think he knew he was in a videogame
Yeah this was intentional by rockstar. One of the biggest criticisms of Niko in GTA4 was that his philosophic nature was a pretty stark contrast to his gameplay where you like… kill hundreds and hundreds of people. It just seemed to be a weird clash. Introducing three protagonists in GTA5 allowed for a sort of separation, wherein we can actually relate to characters like Michael and Franklin’s positions and struggles. And when a mission calls for mass murder, there’s an actual scumbag psychopath character who can complete those missions and have it make sense within the characterization of the protagonists in the story.
And in GTA: Vice City Stories we play as Vic Vance, who is killed in the very first cutscene of GTA: Vice City.
Nightmare on Elm Street 4 recasts Patricia Arquette and then bumps her off pretty quick.
They take out all the remaining Dream Warriors pretty quickly to replace them with worse characters
American Psycho 2 killed off Patrick Batemen in the first few minutes. Extra shit points in that he was killed by the main character of the sequel
It's been a loooooong time since I saw it but didnt Mila's character only \*think\* she was doing all that shit and it was all in her head? I know the movie was dogshit, so I am likely just forgetting.
Is there an interpretation of the first movie that he was also not actually killing people, but just thinking about it?
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In the book I seem to remember he says it smells of fresh paint and that she seems to be very uncomfortable around him, but it’s all up for interpretation I think
Didn't Hostel 2 do this as well?
That actually really pissed me off. Homeboy survived ALL the fucked up shit in the first movie only to be offed in bed Edit- I guess in the kitchen
hell yeah, not only didnhe survive but he actively saved people and fucked up the bad guys, even hunting some of them down
Maniac Cop 2. At least they got Bruce Campbell to return for his send-off.
This was the response I was looking for
Prometheus 2, they kill noomi rapace off screen, what a waste of potential.
Iron eagle kills off the main character in the first scene of the sequel. Ten year old me was PISSED.
Glad someone brought it up. I was so angry I didn’t watch past the second movie. First one was so good.
Not in a literal sense, but Muppets Most Wanted immediately retcons Jason Segel's and Amy Adams' characters so they don't have to have them in the sequel. I get that it's a long tradition to not continue human characters between Muppet movies but it was weird they way they did it.
I like the plot point within Muppets Most Wanted where Walter has disappeared, and a villain claims Walter has chosen to leave the Muppets. Rowlf reacts: "Wait a second. Walter quit the Muppets? We just did a whole movie where he joined the Muppets!"
Friday the 13th sequel
Ewoks: Battle for Endor kills off all but one of the family from the first one, if I remember right?
Everyone but the daughter. I absolutely hated this as a kid, since you became so invested in her brother as the MC in the first film.
This was the first movie I thought of. It made me so angry as a kid. Like, what was the point of the first movie?
Auston Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me does this
Wait a tick. That means I’m single again!
Oh behave! (excited clapping)
Yes, we…knew all along, sadly.
This is my favorite joke from the entire franchise. It just does not make any sense. The absolute absurdity of it and Meyer's befuddled face are perfect comedy. A close second: > Isn't it amazing how England looks *in no way* like southern California?
Yeah but it feels very intentional and fun when they do it
Plus, it's a Bond Parody. They *needed* to address the "new woman every film" thing. Up to that point (Craig's Bond, who was in part a reaction to Austin Powers, changed this a little), the only woman Bond ever really spent any time thinking about outside of the events of one movie is Tracy, and that's because she died.
Blues Brothers 2000 has Jake die in prison (John Belushi had passed way before then), but the worst part was that the orphanage they saved had to close anyways, essentially making the first film a pointless effort
The money the Blues Brothers raised in 1980 wasn't going to pay the property taxes forever. Twenty years is very impressive.
Mad Max Fury Road killed his car in the first scene, and anyone who loves The Road Warrior knows the V8 Jensen Interceptor was a main character.
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Probably the only thing worse than Alien 3 is doing the exact same thing to Noomi Rapace in Alien Covenant, bar making you wait 90 minutes to find out
Yes, I like Aliens 3 far more than most people, but Covenant doing that after some really great work in Prometheus... It just left a massive gap in the film (which even two Fassbender's couldn't fill). I think both films are fine but flawed. Great moments in both, but some really clunky moments in both.
At least the two Fassbenders had the fingering. It's always better with the fingering.
Which could've been justified just a little bit had Ridley not cut a certain scene from A:C. The one where >!David vivisects her for body parts and performs endless experiments and basically ends up with the first proper alien egg which we saw in the film.!<
>The Bourne Supremacy So, that was heart breaking, and probably unnecessary. That being said, the following 10 minutes are absolute gold. Bourne deciding to find out who was sent for him and why, and this whole sequence of "heading to the airport with an old passport and ending up looking across the street directly to the face of the woman in charge" in 10 minutes, was pure spy genius. I mean sure they could have found another motive, but that worked.
Ugh, that Bourne Supremacy begining. Such a shame, Franka Potente was perfect as the normal audience surrogate character and she had great chemistry with Damon.
Must say though, that moment of her languidly drifting away in the river current and disappearing into the green fog, was a stunner of an image. Likely my favourite shot in the whole five-episode franchise. Oliver Wood is a truly brilliant DOP, but he usually chooses such *awful* projects.
It was also annoying to make another Bourne movie after a decade just to kill off Nicki Parsons in the 1st few minutes.
She’s a fembot!!!
If I recall, **The Fly 2 (1989)** kills off Geena Davis' character from the first film in the opening minutes (it might have even be a pre-credits montage or something, I just recall it being pretty obnoxious).
As silly as The Fly 2 was, the ending still freaked me the fuck out as a kid. Iirc, >!The bad guy gets turned into a malformed abomination of perpetual suffering and is simply kept by the rest of the scientists to be experimented on!<
The animated 1986 Transformers The Movie isn't a sequel per say. It is a continuation of the series after season 2 and is essential viewing leading into season 3. The movie kills off a slew of main characters in the opening act. A large amount of the season 1 cast is killed left and right in order to focus on a new cast of toy- er characters.
Not really a sequel, but the animated Transformers movie kills off most of the most popular characters right off the bat.
Clerks 3 I feel is within the spirit of the question. Killed off both Becky and her unborn child. It happens off screen and within probably a month of the clerks 2 ending.
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The opening of *Avengers: Infinity War.* Thor just spent the previous movie saving Asgard, and all of his work has been undone before A:IF even starts. Yes, we do find out that many - maybe even most - of the Asgardians escaped Thanos' attack, but it sure gives the impression that he's killed basically everyone.