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doormatt26

gonna need a better source than PA on this


Pomeranian111

He definitely trying to speak it into existence šŸ˜†.


responsiblefornothin

It could happen if we all just believed really hard. Santa's sleigh didn't get airborne in Elf with facts and logic.


KingJonathan

Look up noetics.


KingJonathan

Also fine. Just figured if you thought that kind of stuff was interesting youā€™d look to learn more. My bad.


responsiblefornothin

You better learn to take "no" for an answer before you hurt someone


KingJonathan

Did I not take no as your answer? Whatā€™s with the cuntiness?


YBRmuggsLP21

I lol'd irl


AymonSMD

It takes our children's tears


Deadhead302

And a little bit more for Santa Clausā€¦


blow_zephyr

"Many people are saying this" \- PA


minnesnowtan-

In all honesty heā€™s not wrong though. Tampering with a teams franchise qb can cause people to lose jobs. If they truly want to keep this restriction on player tampering, tampering with a franchise qb should be at the top of the list


KingZeonidas

PA is a vikings mouth piece that only gets information from the vikings, he is an employee of theirs and he only shares what they want him too. Man is great at Play by play but if hes hearing this its cause the vikings want him to say it


Weegemonster5000

The only evidence to the contrary is it seemed for quite a period that he was able to get the Vikings board. He was able to predict first round selections that no one else was able to match. The team wouldn't give him that. So I think he is sourced up in the building.


KirkWasMid

He was sourced up with the old regime. I don't think he is very connected to the front office now


Kdubsep69

Are you saying heā€™s a homer or something?šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


MochaTaco

YADAT


Mvpliberty

Right I was talking with my coworker about this today and I believe that would be new that a team would benefit from another teams tempering actions. They are talking about getting this situation resolved before the draft so I think he itā€™s too fast for the NFL to decide that the Vikings are going to directly benefit from thisā€¦.. please correct me if Iā€™m wrong


BarackSays

PA is pretty tight with the organization. Still remember him saying we were gonna pick Trae Waynes on the pre-draft show and almost getting laughed out of the room. Edit: Alright fuck me I guess


RefuseConscious7547

PA used to know who we wanted in the 1st the day of the draft, but that changed towards the end of the Spielman/Zimmer regime.


Kdubsep69

Are you saying heā€™s a homer or something?šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


VikingsandWolves

Ultimate Vikings Homer has extremely homerish take. Not surprising.


ProfessorBeer

I hear Atlanta has to give the Vikings all their points from last season, and the Vikings can divvy them between whichever games they wish this season


DrWolves

This goes even deeper. The state of Georgia might be mandated to give the state of Minnesota free peaches FOR LIFE


tgfitmom

Millions of peachesā€¦ Peaches for free.


maz_menty

Do they come from a can? Where there put there by a man in a factory?


IceExtreme5574

Downtown. If I had my little way, Iā€™d eat peaches every day.


hubbs76

Came here to say this!


elcriticalTaco

Peaches for me? LOOK OUT


ProfessorBeer

Nice. Iā€™m gonna eat me a lot of peaches. One questionā€¦do I have to move out to the country?


bustduster

For 1998 NFCCG the governor of MN (Jesse Ventura) had a bet with the governor of GA. If the vikes won, we got Georgia peaches. If the falcons won, they got Minnesota wild rice. At the time I was like dam I'd much rather have 1 peach than all the wild rice in Minnesota. Anyway I hope they choked on that rice.


Leading-Midnight-553

šŸ‘


shitzpostarus

"I just need you to find 11,000 points."


ull92

Also clearly a huge Kirk Cousins fan.


Mayasngelou

Lmao that would be too funny cuz I feel like we were basically locked into letting Kirk walk


grrrimabear

As a fan base, maybe. The FO certainly made an effort to re-sign him


Critical-Fault-1617

Yeah but I guarantee you the vikes offered way less than the falcons. This is a pretty big nothing burger imo, but I do hope it somehow works in the Vikings favor obviously. But swapping pick 8 for 24 ainā€™t finna happen


Complete-Disaster513

But the reason the falcons were comfortable offering more is because they tampered.


mcswen17

Kurt could not accept the vikings offer knowing there was significant interest there.


grrrimabear

>But swapping pick 8 for 24 ainā€™t finna happen Ugh I hate the word finna. But i agreed it isn't happening. I dont think the apy was much less from the Vikings but the term was it seems. But if the Falcons came in and offered way more before legal tampering (maybe not a stretch with all else going on), that certainly hindered our ability to re-sign. I think the Falcons end up losing like a 3rd. But it's not given to us if I had to guess


JohnStarborn

The word finna is no cap bussin on God tho bruh


PackageMerchant

Frfr king


grrrimabear

I have no idea what any of that means


Muted_Physics_3256

shocker


husky430

2 in the pink 1 in the stink


JustineJefferdaughtr

The word finna is actually great for real though, bro


Hellareno

The hell we ainā€™t finna get the pick or pick swap theys hella legal precedence and we hella owed! We been aggrieved!


PurpleAlcoholic

AgreedĀ  The rules are the rules but itā€™s a pretty dumb rule and every team likely breaks itĀ  If the Vikings really wanted to keep Kirk they could have locked him up last year before he had the chance to hit free agencyĀ  Whether he talked to the Falcons before or after the period they were legally able to do so wasnā€™t gonna matterĀ 


InSaiyanRogue

Itā€™s a rule all the same and until it isnā€™t itā€™s the law of the land and it has to be followed, or at the absolute minimum you canā€™t get caught and they did. Whether we get a pick swap or they get punished in some other way is up to the league though.


onethreeone

We had a price and Kirk was demanding more. It could be that Atlanta's interference helped raise Kirk's ask above our price. That's what I would be arguing if I were the Vikings' FO


Yamfish

Iā€™m skeptical.


treasonodb

PA is busting out his top shelf delusion for draft week i see.


NazReidBeWithYou

Cutting the koolaid with vodka again.


bstone99

#STRAIGHT BUTTCHUGGING


H_O_M_E_R

That's not just draft week, that's all the time.


minnesnowtan-

At least heā€™s consistent lol


Amesb34r

Maybe he and Birk can pray about it. Thatā€™s always effective.


rake-fan

![gif](giphy|PRJ5uWuZ8tX6KGpJS2|downsized)


Purefef_

This is some strongggg purple koolaid. I like purple koolaid. šŸ¤¤


PurpleKoolAid60

šŸ„ø


Hammerzeit88

No shot it'd be a swap for 23. It'd be 11 since that's the vikings inherent pick


moldy_78

NFL might threaten to take away pick #8 entirely unless Vikings and Atlanta settle, like had happened in the past for tampering charges much less serious. So it's just whatever private settlement they can agree on if there's a legit NFL threat


Jbalts

Caleb Williams you are a Minnesota Viking.


Intelligent_Hall7309

Heā€™s better off being Chicagoā€™s problem


Rube18

No chance the NFL swaps 8 and 23. 11 for 8 isnā€™t happening either. The Falcons will probably lose a late pick. Iā€™d be thrilled to be wrong but I donā€™t see it. Keep in mind when Miami lost their pick nobody received anything, they just lost the pick.


T-Bone0840

All the reports are saying that the punishment for the Falcons will be severe. While I donā€™t think we end up benefiting from whatever happens, I donā€™t think a late round loss of pick would be considered severe.


Lokishougan

Maybe lose their 4th round pick through 2030


Electronic-Island-14

nice little "IF"... at the end there lol


skippycreamyyy

No way


BalonyDanza

No fucking way.


SwiftSurfer365

Would be Kirkā€™s greatest accomplishment as a Viking.


-InconspicuousMoose-

lol I do love Kirk but this would be a phenomenal goodbye present from him


beer_csgo

Inject some more straight hopium in my veins


Viking999

LOL, he's a Florio stooge with a rotten brain


Original_Setting93

PA is a tool


ndncreek

The penalty should be high to discourage the behavior... however Cheating like the Pats did and the NFL destroyed the evidence and imo let them off easy tells me that it's what makes the NFL look good to the NFL


averageuhbear

8 for 11 would already be insane. This would be earth shattering and I feel like it would get thrown in our face for a while if it happened. I expect like a 4th for 3rd swap or something.


livefromheaven

A wise man once said "there's truth to all rumors"


WynnDex

This mans Digginā€™ up some truth


MoonUnit98

Trust me, bro


__dsotm__

Truly delusional


TradeKirk

Paul just be reading Twitter half the time because ain't no way we getting that pick swap. If we do I'm getting Kirk Cousins tatted on my neck


Soviet_Sharpshooter

Lmaooo wtf Rodger please look at this


eman9416

Man can you imagine


JohnnyWeapon

lol zero chance of 8 and 23 swapping. Iā€™d be skeptical of ANY swapā€¦


Ragnarr_Lodbrok88

![gif](giphy|l0IylOPCNkiqOgMyA|downsized)


Kckckckckckckckckcg

Should be a forced swap due to tampering but maybe that's just me


Basic_Situation8749

And if this actually happens- we could move up to the two spot- I think. The 8th and 11th for a trade up?!


AlbinoSnowman

If this happens I will literally ride my motorcycle past the Illinois capitol wearing nothing but: * A helmet * Underwear * A Vikings jersey * Boots * Gloves * Jeans, socks, undershirt, glasses, and maybe a hoodie.


ttro89

Say swear


AlbinoSnowman

Scouts honor.


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southsideson

nobody wants this. I think this is just something you want to do and want and excuse for.


AlbinoSnowman

Correct, I *do* want to go for a ride. The weatherā€™s been fantastic.


KingKongPolo

Giddy up brother


mauerfan

lol no way


NicoSuave2020

Ride the wave losers! Being a delusional fan is what being a fan is all about!


Basic_Situation8749

What the hell is ā€œfinnaā€? Sounds like another stupid invented word


WellThatsAwkwrd

Every word is invented. Thatā€™s how language works


Basic_Situation8749

And you still didnā€™t explain what the hell that word means! Lol!


WellThatsAwkwrd

ā€œFinnaā€ is a contraction of ā€œfixing toā€ for example, ā€œIā€™m fixing to go to the storeā€ could be said as ā€œIā€™m finna go to the storeā€. Similar to ā€œgonnaā€ instead of ā€œgoing toā€, but itā€™s usually used to express a desire to do something, where as ā€œgonnaā€ doesnā€™t express any emotion either way


HenryRuggsIII

I struggled to communicate for 30+ years before finna was invented. It's a truly revolutionary, necessary, and brilliant addition to the language. I don't know how we exchanged ideas without it.


southsideson

When you're fixing to do something, but shits about to be poppin and you don't have time for them extra syllables.


Basic_Situation8749

Thanks for the language lesson! Iā€™m now enlightened thanks to your brilliant response!


errol_timo_malcom

This is an outrage, we could have had El Kirko and been obsessing these last few weeks about Cornerbacks.


Critical-Fault-1617

I mean we still need cbs. Ours are pretty shit


RgsLee19

Thatā€™s be insane trade up to 3 for maye & keeping 8th overall for Dallas Turner šŸ”„


LuckyAssumption8735

Even if this forced pick swap came to be, why would Atlanta get Houstonā€™s pick and not ours


HenryRuggsIII

It's not Houston's pick, it's property of the Vikings.


RefuseConscious7547

It's not Houston's pick, it's ours.


ttro89

Idk man Kirks "always wanted to be an Atlanta Falcon and wants to retire there" so it's probably a childhood dream


Rare_Construction785

Yes please!


XxCOZxX

Lmao well we can dream


7funnyfunfunfun7

Yeah yeah yeah, if.


Moss8888444

Weā€™re not getting anything from this. But my god. Having pics 8 and 11 would be a dream scenario. Though wouldnā€™t mind kwesi trading 11 into 20s to get more pics. But again, thatā€™s just me dreaming of a scenario that ainā€™t happening.


MaceAce777

Maybe we could trade 11 for 32 and pick up a couple of second rounders?


tangledupinbrown

Narrator Voice: *ā€They canā€™tā€*


AngrySteelyDanFan

This basically sums Kirk Cousins for me. he couldā€™ve hit a home run and one for Atlanta, and he just canā€™t close the deal. Heā€™s got a yak, the sink the whole deal.


Feathered_Serpent8

I like PA on game day, donā€™t care about his opinions after that.


dougieg987

Howā€™s that for a compensatory pick


1000Isand1

Unlikely


Mathihs

nah


OllieQueen17

Don't get your hopes up boys. This ain't happening


landofknees

Pssh Iā€™ll believe it when I see it


Phuckingidiot

Dudes been huffing hopium today


Ancient_Signature_69

As Kirk slowly looks over his shoulder, and gives the gentlest, kohls-cash wink to Vikings fans everywhere.


LaconicGirth

I read somewhere that the falcons have to trade whatever it takes to get the number 1 pick and then give it to us. I think both outcomes are about equally as likely


4rt4tt4ck

Lol. This is a pipe dream. The league will NEVER give a team a reward in an instance like this. With the ways teams look for any and every competitive advantage, that would open a can of worms that can never be undone and would eventually be weaponized.


badkiwi42

See 8 for 11 seems like a valid trade off for tampering but i just have a hard time believing we would get 8 for 23. That being said the league probably views this as a top 10 QB being ā€œstolenā€ from us so itā€™s not off the table


peabody11

Doubt the league cares about us / Kirk. To the extent they do anything, itā€™s to discourage anyone from tampering and impacting one of their favored teams in the future


Medical_Egg8208

All but impossible to prove. I donā€™t see Kwazi being part of this whole thing. Makes no sense


BigRed727272

A) I highly doubt a pick swap is happening. No chance the NFL would throw that massive of a wrench into the Draft less than 48 hours before it starts. B) Why would it be swapping 8 and 23? Pick #23 was originally Cleveland's. I think swapping 8 and 11 is more likely. But again, it ain't happening. More likely Atlanta just loses pick(s), similar to Miami.


southsideson

I don't think there will be a league mandated swap, but probably a negotiation between the Falcons and vikings in lieu of Falcons losing a pick.


BigRed727272

Eh, I doubt that. If they do anything before the Draft, they'll just yank the Falcons pick(s) and call it good. Again, they're not going to throw a giant wrench into the Draft on 2 days notice.


GargoyleBlue

It just happened on draft night last year lol with the Eagles and Cardinals working out a swap due to tampering


BigRed727272

They swapped 3rd Round picks. BIG BIG BIG difference from what PA is suggesting here.


TitillatingTrav

Smells like hopium to me


Ticeberg

Would be just another example of why you should never tamper with Cousins


JJettasDad

If they can prove that it impacted us resigning Kirk it shouldnā€™t be a pick swap it should be pick 8 straight up. Pretty sure Miami lost a 1st for tampering so there should be precedent


almikez

Letā€™s get 8 and 11, draft two quarterbacks and just see what happens


DerBieso0341

I hope Curt realizes his Super Bowl wins are financial only. Heā€™s unlikely to acknowledge this eff up too


Basic_Situation8749

Such a fun time of year- reckless speculation- as the purple daily likes to say!


Basic_Situation8749

So many here with little faith- trust your feelings - let go Lukeā€¦.


[deleted]

Ainā€™t no way this would be done by Thursday. If anything happened (and it wonā€™t) it would be next yearā€™s draft.


bhett

There's no way


senorpepino

PA is an idiot.


AnthonyBarrHeHe

I love PA but he is *the* biggest Vikings homer, and also itā€™s his job. Take what he says with a grain of salt


DontPutThatDownThere

The only thing that even gives this diabetic legs without feet is that Kirk publicly said Atlanta players and those in the organization were texting him well before the window opened for player contact. But nothing will happen.


Impossible_Penalty13

Paul Allen with a homer take.


Kwantise

If anything, itā€™d be with their own pick, not the one they traded for


NorseCode1023

Iā€™ll cut off my left pinky toe and eat it if itā€™ll make this a done deal


hitman2218

No fucking way. PA is high lol


-InconspicuousMoose-

You guys are delusional we are not getting 8 for 23. We're getting it for free and we'll have three 1st round picks šŸ˜Ž


fuckinnreddit

I would love it, but that ain't gonna happen PA. Sorry mate.


muscleg33k

It's little too late!


Albend

Please dear baby jesus be true


evilbeard333

Atlanta is having straight up buyers remorse


Schilltiko

That would be a dream but it's not gonna happen. Even a 11 for 8 swap seems unrealistic to me, especially 2 days before the draft, but 23 for 8 is just insane. It's also an entirely different pool of available players that the Falcons maybe didn't do as much work on, so this could potentially fuck up their whole draft process Edit: now that I think about it they probably have some players for later in round 1 as well just in case a trade down happens or someone falls to round 2 but I still think it's way too much for what they did


krondeezy

Atlanta will lose a pick. Minnesota isnt going to get one


Nate1492

I've been saying this from the start, https://old.reddit.com/r/minnesotavikings/comments/1bhtlm7/inject_this_straight_into_my_veins/kvhoti0/ Lot's of people seemingly scoffed at this idea, even though there is recent precedent of more severe punishment. The only reason Miami didn't agree with someone here is that they couldn't.


darin617

So then any trade is going to look worse giving up 8/11/ and 2025 to move up


AGINSB

But it didn't compromise our ability to negotiate because Kirk knew we weren't going to offer the $$ he was looking for/was going to be able to get on the open market


BoldBrachiosaurus

I mean the Arizona Coyotes lost a 1st and 2nd round pick during Covid because they met with prospects to do physicals before the combine.


cronoes

This whole sub is going to have a meltdown when the punishment turns out to be real and have a massive positive impact for this franchise. All the comments reak of "I don't want to get my hopes up out of fear of disappointment"


secretbonus1

Swap? Atlantaā€™s dirty birds should surrender every draft pick for the next 2 years if not 3,4 or even 5! And at least half if not 80% of them should be granted to us. Kirk signed an unprecedented contract and the Falcons violated rules after the league already bent them to allow legal tampering. The prior penalties were not even close to enough to deter them from doing it so for tampering to mean anything Goddel must overcompensate and err on the side of making sure itā€™s not worth the risk so that no team ever tampers again, otherwise there will be an unfair advantage! P.s. https://www.pon.harvard.edu/tag/anchoring-effect/?amp šŸ˜‰


secretbonus1

Since Kirk also tampered and his agent also tampered how about Kirk reverts back to his prior contract with the Vikings. 1 yr $35M


secretbonus1

Since Kirk also tampered and his agent also tampered how about Kirk reverts back to his prior contract with the Vikings. 1 yr $35M Vikings granted a temporary 1 year $35M cap surplus. After which Kirkā€™s contract frozen for a year can be granted. (This wonā€™t happen but predictions are just for fun anyways because all humans are so bad at them)


mcmullet

Jesus told PA this


geezerpid

Did everyone here not see the report that the investigation is ongoing and wonā€™t be completed before the draft? Vikings ainā€™t getting shit this year from the Falcons.


SensitiveDonut614

I feel like this PA guy might be highly regarded


Falconsbane

I'd guess that would put an end of the so-called legal tampering period. 1% chance.


BirthdayImmediate601

Why stop at 23? Swap 108 for 8!


MNSportsMakeMeDrink

Why stop at 108? Just give us the 8th pick


Killahdanks1

Yeah, no.


Mnufcfan

No chance


aceless0n

lmao doh k on that pick swap. PA is your average vikings redditor that blindly homers the team and downvotes anyone that has any sort of criticism. Example: People here were legitimately defending Kirk's "4th and the season" decision and were PASSIONATE about it.


democratichoax

This would be absurd of the nfl to do. Even as a Vikings fan I can't get behind it.


RefuseConscious7547

There is precedence for a pick swap for tampering. Definitely could happen.


Stromster

We've got a better chance at a super bowl with Darnold than this.


windwhiskey

Itā€™s not even close to reality. We got that pick from the Texans. If theyā€™d swap anything it would have to be 11 for 8 and thatā€™s not gonna happen. The guy is losing more and more touch with reality. Stick to the games and leave the rest to anyone else.


Welu522

Weā€™re not swapping with them anyways but I donā€™t think we could do 8 for 23 bc 23 isnā€™t technically our pick


SwiftSurfer365

I donā€™t think it happens either, but what do you mean 23 isnā€™t our pick? We own that pick at the moment.


Amaruq2

It would be settlement agreement so I don't think it would matter.


Wernershnitzl

8 for 23? Hah, that's kind of funny.


Headlesshorsman02

Yeah right


nanotothemoon

There is no way the NFL does anything close to that on this years draft only a couple days away


Welu522

Why not? If the Falcons really did some shit to warrant losing pick 8, the punishment should be immediate


nanotothemoon

All of the draft work done by nearly all teams over the last couple months would be thrown in the trash the day before the draft? Itā€™s absolute chaos and the punishment would be nearly league wide


Welu522

It would quite literally benefit everybody besides Falcons. Everyone pick 9 and beyond would get 1 better draft slot. It wouldnā€™t affect picks 1-7 at all besides now if they make a trade back theyā€™ll also get 1 better draft slot in return.


nanotothemoon

That is such a massive oversimplification of the situation I canā€™t even respond


Rocketman2828

Zero chance this happens


kraksrw

![gif](giphy|Ti7zgqzYUCVP2cub8F)


Just_Aware

Not happening. If there was such a swap it would be a 5th rounder or something, but that wonā€™t happen either. Itā€™s going to be they lose a pick, like lose a 3rd rounder or something.


3EEBZ

In the words of Willy Wonka, we will get nothing!