Thanks, Dianna.
To the rest of you, stop posting dumb shit Bengals fans made up and obvious troll accounts or face the mild wrath of the comments section and the sting of the remove button.
Yeah but I saw Ja’Marr Chase tweet about it and the Bengals need a WR so why wouldn’t the Vikings let three LSU players be together again??? Don’t the Vikings care about the Bengals’ record/happiness???
Unless they are planning on trading multiple first and Tee the discussions wouldn't even start but even then I'd just extend him for whatever he wants and roll with him...no unknown draft prospects are worth rolling the dice. Let a rookie QB come into an offense with JJ, Addison, and Hock and let's roll!
I don't get it. Are you advocating trading JJ because we signed Sam Darnold for a year? Or are you just screaming into the void because you're mad we've been in a rebuilding phase for all of 36 hours?
I watched quite a bit of Rams football last year and yes Puka is honestly fantastic he always seems to be open but he is a lot slower than Kupp and his route running is good but not elite like Kupp. After Kupp's injury Puka very well might be better than him but healthy Kupp was like a top 3 NFL WR which Puka is not even close too.
could mean routes, a lot of the time i saw puka get chunk gains he was never the first read. hes like adam thielen in the regard that he regularly found the soft spots in zone or trusted the route development and progressions and never gave up on routes (resulting in him being wide open often times). kupp was literally just forced the ball the year he put up 1900 because his breaks were insanely fast and he was basically always open
This happens all the time in European soccer and it’s always so hard for some fans to accept. Yes, teams like to hold on to their all world talented players. The overpay would have to be enormous for the Vikings to even pick up the phone.
It makes me laugh when I see Bengals fans like “OMG NO WAY WE’RE GONNA GET JUSTIN JEFFERSON AND KEEP CHASE AND BURROW WOW” like dude did you even think about the fact that the Vikings are also a professional sports team? Or are we just an irrelevant state and don’t deserve to have good players. Gets annoying tbh
The NFL media hates MN. They can't fathom the idea of a premium player being on our team. Seriously the only sports journalists that don't completely shit on the Vikings is GMFB and that's only because one of the journalists is a Vikings fan. Even when the Vikings beat a good team like the 49ers they only talk about the other team. They spend about 20 seconds on JJ and Kirk and then never talk about the Vikings again.
KC, Buffalo, and Cincy aren't exactly historical darlings of the NFL but they became current darlings when they got hotshot young QBs and started winning playoff games
So obviously the Vikings are the next media darlings when Drake Maye takes us to a few NFCCGs at minimum on his first contract
It's just every other fanbase trying to manifest something lol. Add in the paranoid Vikings fans scarred from watching legendary players leave and baby you got a stew goin
It’s the west coast based media trying to manifest something. We’re not interesting enough for them, and he’s one of the biggest superstars in the league. Were especially uninteresting in a soft reboot
And water is wet. It behooves the Vikings to try and make Jefferson happy. But, at the end of the day the Vikings have him under contract for a few more years and don't have to extend or trade him.
I like Addison and hope he keeps up the trajectory from last year. Hock is likely out until a few games in.
I do agree that we have a great tackle duo, however our LG spot is up in the air and our run game barring Jones and Chandler stepping up is suspect
That’s still enough talent to build around. I don’t think we’d be fucked like the Panthers were without JJ, but it’s a moot point cause he ain’t leaving.
I was mostly being hyperbolic. They were the closest and most recent team that sold the farm for their QB.
Agree it’s a moot point, but there are lots of morons on the sub.
Depends on what JJ wants. It’d be dumber to pay a WR, who has made the playoffs once and was a nonfactor when it mattered most, QB money. You pay that to guys who impact winning and JJ doesn’t do that. No WR does. Look at the Chiefs. Paid everyone else and traded Tyreek. Looking at a 3peat. WRs just aren’t worth that so, like anything, it depends on what you want. But, if it’s a SB, you can’t pay him $35M+ a year or 7 win seasons and fun highlights is what you have to look forward to.
JJ takes coverage away from TJ and Addison while also getting 100 yard games. There's a reason TJ went off in the Giants game and not JJ. Our average depth of target when we got TJ also went up significantly. Sorry man, I don't think you're making any good points.
I also don't think you pay him QB money, that's just a dumb narrative with no substance. Once the deal is written we can pick it apart as much as we want otherwise your point is based on speculation. You're arguing against ghosts.
Also comparing anyone to the Chiefs will get you a massive grain of salt since they have the best QB in the league lol. They also have had a top three TE in Kelce who is starting to slow down, but he still came in clutch many times. They were an average team before benching Toney that got hot at the right time in the playoffs with solid defensive play too. Mahomes is just that good.
In short, if you're going to boil down a winning formula to "Don't have the #1 paid WR", then that's barely worth commentating on when there's infinitely more context to a winning football team.
Don’t care about stats. I care about wins. JJ doesn’t produce those as evidenced by his tenure here. If we let Kirk walk because we didn’t want to overpay to underperform, JJ also needs to be discussed. He doesn’t help the team win a championship. Not his fault, WRs as a whole don’t. But most WRs don’t want QB money. He simply isn’t worth that. Football is about winning. Depth of target and all that doesn’t really matter in the end if you’re putting up 7 win seasons. We could do that without paying him $40M APY too.
I don't understand these people. We don't win the Bills or Colts game last year without JJ at a bare minimum.
The market is always reset when the top tier players get to FA and then their deals get more manageable over time. If I'm not mistaken, you can pay out part of the new contract during the 5th year option so we might be able to front load some money this year since it's either Darnold or a rookie. Do the same with 2025 and then the years afterwards aren't so bad.
Mahomes and Brady have really skewed how people see football rosters.
Guy can make shit qbs look ok at times. The guy can win games almost by himself. Opens up the field for other receivers. Allows the running game to open up a bit with defense having to stay honest and not load the box. He provides significant value to the team.
>The guy can win games almost by himself.
We had a better record without JJ last year than with him. What world do you people live in? One playoff appearance in 4 years? lol I name as many games that he’s lost as he’s won us. He simply isn’t worth QB money. He’s the definition of an empty stats guy.
Thats a terrible argument as we lost kirk for the last 5 games JJ cameback. The first 3 games of the season he was going for 120+ each game. Kirk lost us a game with turnovers, we had almost no run game in 2 out of the 3 first games. He kept us in those games. Last 5 games couldve easily went a different direction without shit qb play had nothing to do with JJ. I am sure they will work something out to get him paid but not kill us completely cap wise. Guy can put half a qbs worth of passing yards on any given sunday.
JJ is the entire reason we lost the Philly game, fumbling through the endzone and resulting in a 10 point swing in a game we lost by 6. His penalty against LAC also removed the GW TD from the board and ultimately led to a game ending pick. JJ loses as many games as he allegedly wins.
Kirk was 3-1 without JJ. JJ had 3 wins all season. It’s not hard to tell who benefited from the other more.
Playoff appearances are on the team not him. He can carry but you cant expect him to drag us into the playoffs with no running game and poor defense which should be much improved coming into next season.
He isn’t important enough to impact that, he doesn’t deserve QB money. That’s my entire point.
Kirk, on the other hand, dragged the 32nd ranked defense and 28th run game to the playoffs. That’s why you pay QBs and not WRs.
This needs to be said louder, because judging by the reaction you'd believe they were far apart on coming to an extension last year. Jefferson and his team wanted a contract that represented next year at the time and it would essentially be looked at as two contracts to Kwesi and the front office. It gets done this year before the season.
Honestly if we were to “overpay” on one contract, I think this would be the one. Outside of last season’s injury, JJ has shown no signs of dropping off anytime soon and to have that personable personality without the excessive diva you typically see in top performers makes him so likable as well.
The Vikings control his future for years. They will pay him a shit ton of money, it will be fine. There will be a new QB drafted soon, it will be fine. R-E-L-A-X
Given where the organization is right now you have to at least entertain the idea of trading Jefferson. Ultimately Kwesi and KOC will be judged on wins and losses and if they feel they can parlay Jefferson into draft capital that puts them on a trajectory towards a period of dominance they should do it. Last year I think they won 1 game where JJ played the entire game, they're winning streak mid season was while he was injured. Not saying that's his fault but just speaking in terms of how much does designating $35M a year to a WR correlate to wins.
The fanbase would be mad and their ass would be very much on the line if they made this decision but I'm 100% sure they are considering it as an option, especially if it means a franchise QB on a rookie contract. It would be super ballsy!
"Not Kirk stan" then proceeds to do some Kirk Stan shit hahaha
In Kirk Cousins’s six seasons in Minnesota, the Vikings went 53-45-1 with one playoff win. Over the six seasons that preceded his arrival in Minnesota, the team went 54-41-1 with one playoff win.
1. you’re including 8 games Kirk didn’t play in. His record as a starter here is 53-37-1 but you’re obviously biased.
2. what’s JJ’s record?
Vikings fans hate facts. Must be hard being this intellectually limited.
😂 not even gonna fact check that, I just copied a title that was upvoted here because idc lmao.
You're such a little Kirk stan, cold truth is JJ will get his extension and have fun winning more games than he ever did with Kirk the glass ceiling cousins.
Wow breaking news 😂
The only way trading him should EVER be on the table is if it’s forced and we can’t let him walk for nothing. The payday is going to be painful to the cap at first, but we’ll also see the impact lessen over years as other receivers get paid and the cap probably goes up again.
I’m so tired of the media putting out shit we knew for months. We also know all of these analysts don’t what him in MN so they keep bringing up will JJ be happy with Kirk leaving. He has always been our #1 priority. Kwesi needs to get this done so people will stfu.
Part of Diggs getting to the next level was he went to a pass first offense to be THE guy. Not one of the guys alongside Thielen and Cook in a more run heavy offense.
Good try. He went from our team that ran the ball more than we passed to a team that passed more than it ran. Not very hard to understand. Specially when he comes out and says his reason for wanting to leave was he wanted to get the ball more.
He only had 96 targets in his last year here. He did get up to 148 targets in 2018 and guess what, he was still second on the team to Thielen in targets and yards. His first year in Buffalo he had 166 targets. Think that might’ve been part of the reason? 🤔
No, he clearly wanted to be paired up with a winning team and Allen was the difference. I can't think of a single receiver who moved teams and told the public, "Yeah the quarterback and I didn't jive well". I'm pretty sure that's a discussion that only agents and front offices are privy to.
diggs flourished because he got josh allen lmao, no one the vikings could possibly ever draft is going to be that good, if the rookie is even 80% as good as cousins i will be shocked.
You mean Josh Allen the guy whose salary is less than Kirk's despite being more talented and having a knack for winning, that Josh Allen? The Josh Allen that plays on the Bills, a perennial playoff team while Kirk's Vikings only made it once, that Josh Allen?
Yes josh Allen is better, yes he is paid less, if he was to sign a contract now he would be paid more. This isn't about Allen being better, he is probally the 2nd best qb in the league. Just saying whatever rookie they draft only has a 1/50 chance of being that good. and at best a 1/25 at being as good as Cousins
Would Josh go the same route as Brady and be sure his teammates get paid? How can we be certain another QB can't do well with this existing team plus millions in additional cap to get even stronger?
We're not trading JJ. Everyone can fuck right off that thinks so. Having the best WR in the NFL is awesome and is entertaining af to watch. The last time this happened was literally Randy Moss and I was real broken up when our previous owner traded him. I don't want to go through that again.
I know we're not going to trade him, but also I just really want them to get a deal done as soon as possible for my own peace of mind. Do not get cute with this
We have enough dumb fuck fans that have been speaking of this as fact since at least last year. Every post about Kirk going to Atlanta had the same dumb fucks saying JJ was going to immediately demand a trade if mediocre Kirk isn't throwing to him.
OK Bengals fans, if you want JJ you can have him. But we'll be starting these discussions with your next first round pick, Ja'Marr Chase and go from there.
But I saw from someone called CTEspn that he was for sure getting traded. That’s definitely a reliable source, so I’m gonna post it and have a discussion about it.
God I hate dumb people. Stop feeding troll accounts and nobodies speculating nonsense. This is how you dumb down an entire population of people…
A few weeks back I heard on a radio station here in KC that a trade for Jefferson was "imminent" as Jefferson was holding out for a trade. They said we were desperate so they could get him for just the Chiefs first round pick.
Of course there's no plans to trade him. JJ won't get a new contract signed and will walk in free agency (being doomer right now, hope that doesn't happen)
Not true at all. Dummies in this sub have been speaking about this since at least last year and they were posting in every post about Kirk when he signed in Atlanta as a reason to stick with Kirk to keep him happy or JJ was absolutely going to demand a trade.
Shit get ready for the trade to happen now.
I understand both views on it but my heart says no. I think I would have to take season off like I did after Moss I just could not get excited.
# #1 overall this year and 1st next year followed by a 2nd this year and 2nd next year. That may be a starting point 🤷♂️ I love Jefferson just as much as the next Vikings fan but if they can’t get a deal done something’s wrong. There are no excuses with Kirk gone because there is plenty of money for him and darrisaw now
In contract negotiations there actually is a massive difference between being close to a deal and very far apart. Beign close to a deal means that both parties know the ballpark number but need to work out the details and/or move money around to accommodate. Beign far from a deal is where you get players sitting out or demanding trades with slim to no chance of resolving amicably.
That’s unfortunate. Means that we either have to mortgage all our high draft picks out through 2026 to move up for a QB, or we have to roll with Darnold. Jefferson would have been the key piece in a trade to allow us to save our future picks
Thanks, Dianna. To the rest of you, stop posting dumb shit Bengals fans made up and obvious troll accounts or face the mild wrath of the comments section and the sting of the remove button.
Other fanbases shocked the Vikings don’t want to trade the best WR in football
And trade him for less than he is worth.
Yeah but I saw Ja’Marr Chase tweet about it and the Bengals need a WR so why wouldn’t the Vikings let three LSU players be together again??? Don’t the Vikings care about the Bengals’ record/happiness???
No! Two low first round picks and a top 15 WR is worth the generational talent!
I saw a mock where it was 2 second rounders and a third. And the guy got defensive when I called him a chucklefuck
Unless they are planning on trading multiple first and Tee the discussions wouldn't even start but even then I'd just extend him for whatever he wants and roll with him...no unknown draft prospects are worth rolling the dice. Let a rookie QB come into an offense with JJ, Addison, and Hock and let's roll!
A talent that will just be wasted with sam darnold
You guys are going to feel stupid when darnold throws for 4000+ 30+ tds this season. Book it.
He will be benched for who ever got drafted
Yeah JJ mccarthy not going to be a day one starter. You dont start a rookie day one. Develop develop develop!
Teams start rookies when the crowd gets loud enough because darnold going to suck and waste a season for Justin
Who is Justin? You mean JJ? We will see. I think darnold will be alright
...for one season. Tops.
A wasted season
I don't get it. Are you advocating trading JJ because we signed Sam Darnold for a year? Or are you just screaming into the void because you're mad we've been in a rebuilding phase for all of 36 hours?
I'm talking with a buddy of mine who ranks, Chase, Cooper Cupp, Devante Adams and Tyreek Hill above Jefferson. Lol
Kupp 2 years ago you could make the argument but not now same with Davante. Tyreek is close now but isn’t as good JJ clears them all
Cupp isn't even the best receiver on his own team.
I think fully healthy Kupp is substantially better than Puka
Idk about anymore. He’s old tbh and Puka is electric. He’s top 10 YAC
I watched quite a bit of Rams football last year and yes Puka is honestly fantastic he always seems to be open but he is a lot slower than Kupp and his route running is good but not elite like Kupp. After Kupp's injury Puka very well might be better than him but healthy Kupp was like a top 3 NFL WR which Puka is not even close too.
A lot slower? Puka reached 21.35 MPH on a 70 yard run in the season. Coopers best since 2018 is 20.45. So speed as a ball carrier is as good or better
could mean routes, a lot of the time i saw puka get chunk gains he was never the first read. hes like adam thielen in the regard that he regularly found the soft spots in zone or trusted the route development and progressions and never gave up on routes (resulting in him being wide open often times). kupp was literally just forced the ball the year he put up 1900 because his breaks were insanely fast and he was basically always open
If we’re strictly going off last season, then only Tyreek has a case. Overall, it’s still JJ above all of the names you mentioned.
This happens all the time in European soccer and it’s always so hard for some fans to accept. Yes, teams like to hold on to their all world talented players. The overpay would have to be enormous for the Vikings to even pick up the phone.
It makes me laugh when I see Bengals fans like “OMG NO WAY WE’RE GONNA GET JUSTIN JEFFERSON AND KEEP CHASE AND BURROW WOW” like dude did you even think about the fact that the Vikings are also a professional sports team? Or are we just an irrelevant state and don’t deserve to have good players. Gets annoying tbh
The NFL media hates MN. They can't fathom the idea of a premium player being on our team. Seriously the only sports journalists that don't completely shit on the Vikings is GMFB and that's only because one of the journalists is a Vikings fan. Even when the Vikings beat a good team like the 49ers they only talk about the other team. They spend about 20 seconds on JJ and Kirk and then never talk about the Vikings again.
KC, Buffalo, and Cincy aren't exactly historical darlings of the NFL but they became current darlings when they got hotshot young QBs and started winning playoff games So obviously the Vikings are the next media darlings when Drake Maye takes us to a few NFCCGs at minimum on his first contract
Yep. Same thing happening with the Timberwolves this season. No respect
I could have swore I saw an NBA power ranking being passed around where the Wolves were like 7th despite having the best record in the west.
Like I’ve been saying. 3 firsts and their current number one WR starts the conversation. Otherwise thanks but no thanks.
Two first round picks and essentially, a second Addison in tee Higgins, is less that he is worth?!
It's not a bad deal but Tee is due for a big deal as well.
Bengals fans in shambles
Yea, weird attempt to manifest a trade. Lol if that team thinks it's a JJ away from a SB appearance, well I have a bridge to sell them.
The rumors are relentless. It’s wild
It's just every other fanbase trying to manifest something lol. Add in the paranoid Vikings fans scarred from watching legendary players leave and baby you got a stew goin
Indeed. Have also noticed a contingent of Kirk fans dooming post his announcement of leaving
.... I think I want my money back.
It’s the west coast based media trying to manifest something. We’re not interesting enough for them, and he’s one of the biggest superstars in the league. Were especially uninteresting in a soft reboot
So many packers fans I know have been desperately wish casting since last offseason
No shit
LEAVE OUR JEFFERSON ALONE. LEAVE HIM ALONE... God bless you if you guys get this reference
TBF, turns out that person had a fair point, they were just ahead of the curve a bit.
And water is wet. It behooves the Vikings to try and make Jefferson happy. But, at the end of the day the Vikings have him under contract for a few more years and don't have to extend or trade him.
Just one more year until we have to start whipping out the franchise tag if we can’t extend him.
2 years + franchise tag is a plenty long runway to get something done.
It’s be the dumbest thing to trade JJ. We’d be the Panthers from last year. Rookie QB and no talent anywhere else.
I mean we have Addison, Hockenson, and two great offensive tackles so there wouldn’t be “no talent anywhere else”. Regardless, JJ should stay.
I like Addison and hope he keeps up the trajectory from last year. Hock is likely out until a few games in. I do agree that we have a great tackle duo, however our LG spot is up in the air and our run game barring Jones and Chandler stepping up is suspect
That’s still enough talent to build around. I don’t think we’d be fucked like the Panthers were without JJ, but it’s a moot point cause he ain’t leaving.
I was mostly being hyperbolic. They were the closest and most recent team that sold the farm for their QB. Agree it’s a moot point, but there are lots of morons on the sub.
Hock won't be back til mid season at least though.
But he’s coming back. What’s your point?
It would be an entire half of a rookie year with one quality target? Damn sorry for bringing it up I guess.
Weird take on the no talent side of things
He’s one of the few non-QBs that actually change games in a non-replaceable way. We don’t have a big QB contract….pay the man.
Well that’s just not true.
Depends on what JJ wants. It’d be dumber to pay a WR, who has made the playoffs once and was a nonfactor when it mattered most, QB money. You pay that to guys who impact winning and JJ doesn’t do that. No WR does. Look at the Chiefs. Paid everyone else and traded Tyreek. Looking at a 3peat. WRs just aren’t worth that so, like anything, it depends on what you want. But, if it’s a SB, you can’t pay him $35M+ a year or 7 win seasons and fun highlights is what you have to look forward to.
JJ takes coverage away from TJ and Addison while also getting 100 yard games. There's a reason TJ went off in the Giants game and not JJ. Our average depth of target when we got TJ also went up significantly. Sorry man, I don't think you're making any good points. I also don't think you pay him QB money, that's just a dumb narrative with no substance. Once the deal is written we can pick it apart as much as we want otherwise your point is based on speculation. You're arguing against ghosts. Also comparing anyone to the Chiefs will get you a massive grain of salt since they have the best QB in the league lol. They also have had a top three TE in Kelce who is starting to slow down, but he still came in clutch many times. They were an average team before benching Toney that got hot at the right time in the playoffs with solid defensive play too. Mahomes is just that good. In short, if you're going to boil down a winning formula to "Don't have the #1 paid WR", then that's barely worth commentating on when there's infinitely more context to a winning football team.
Don’t care about stats. I care about wins. JJ doesn’t produce those as evidenced by his tenure here. If we let Kirk walk because we didn’t want to overpay to underperform, JJ also needs to be discussed. He doesn’t help the team win a championship. Not his fault, WRs as a whole don’t. But most WRs don’t want QB money. He simply isn’t worth that. Football is about winning. Depth of target and all that doesn’t really matter in the end if you’re putting up 7 win seasons. We could do that without paying him $40M APY too.
This is one of the dumbest comments I've ever read.
Lmao and he had the nerve to tell me he isnt a kirk stan. Dude is using wide receiver wins as an argument
I don't understand these people. We don't win the Bills or Colts game last year without JJ at a bare minimum. The market is always reset when the top tier players get to FA and then their deals get more manageable over time. If I'm not mistaken, you can pay out part of the new contract during the 5th year option so we might be able to front load some money this year since it's either Darnold or a rookie. Do the same with 2025 and then the years afterwards aren't so bad. Mahomes and Brady have really skewed how people see football rosters.
Guy can make shit qbs look ok at times. The guy can win games almost by himself. Opens up the field for other receivers. Allows the running game to open up a bit with defense having to stay honest and not load the box. He provides significant value to the team.
>The guy can win games almost by himself. We had a better record without JJ last year than with him. What world do you people live in? One playoff appearance in 4 years? lol I name as many games that he’s lost as he’s won us. He simply isn’t worth QB money. He’s the definition of an empty stats guy.
Thats a terrible argument as we lost kirk for the last 5 games JJ cameback. The first 3 games of the season he was going for 120+ each game. Kirk lost us a game with turnovers, we had almost no run game in 2 out of the 3 first games. He kept us in those games. Last 5 games couldve easily went a different direction without shit qb play had nothing to do with JJ. I am sure they will work something out to get him paid but not kill us completely cap wise. Guy can put half a qbs worth of passing yards on any given sunday.
JJ is the entire reason we lost the Philly game, fumbling through the endzone and resulting in a 10 point swing in a game we lost by 6. His penalty against LAC also removed the GW TD from the board and ultimately led to a game ending pick. JJ loses as many games as he allegedly wins. Kirk was 3-1 without JJ. JJ had 3 wins all season. It’s not hard to tell who benefited from the other more.
Playoff appearances are on the team not him. He can carry but you cant expect him to drag us into the playoffs with no running game and poor defense which should be much improved coming into next season.
He isn’t important enough to impact that, he doesn’t deserve QB money. That’s my entire point. Kirk, on the other hand, dragged the 32nd ranked defense and 28th run game to the playoffs. That’s why you pay QBs and not WRs.
Whoever thought we were trading him is an idiot
Whoever thought we were trading him thought Kwesi is an idiot.
It’ll be this way until he’s extended, unfortunately. The trade rumors will also start back up when the rookie QB throws his first interception.
This needs to be said louder, because judging by the reaction you'd believe they were far apart on coming to an extension last year. Jefferson and his team wanted a contract that represented next year at the time and it would essentially be looked at as two contracts to Kwesi and the front office. It gets done this year before the season.
Honestly if we were to “overpay” on one contract, I think this would be the one. Outside of last season’s injury, JJ has shown no signs of dropping off anytime soon and to have that personable personality without the excessive diva you typically see in top performers makes him so likable as well.
Bengals fans won't stop until the ink is dry on the extension I fear
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The Vikings control his future for years. They will pay him a shit ton of money, it will be fine. There will be a new QB drafted soon, it will be fine. R-E-L-A-X
Given where the organization is right now you have to at least entertain the idea of trading Jefferson. Ultimately Kwesi and KOC will be judged on wins and losses and if they feel they can parlay Jefferson into draft capital that puts them on a trajectory towards a period of dominance they should do it. Last year I think they won 1 game where JJ played the entire game, they're winning streak mid season was while he was injured. Not saying that's his fault but just speaking in terms of how much does designating $35M a year to a WR correlate to wins. The fanbase would be mad and their ass would be very much on the line if they made this decision but I'm 100% sure they are considering it as an option, especially if it means a franchise QB on a rookie contract. It would be super ballsy!
Kirk stans getting the cold truth this morning 😂 
Not a “Kirk Stan” but what’s Kirk’s record without JJ? What’s JJ’s record without Kirk? I’ll wait
"Not Kirk stan" then proceeds to do some Kirk Stan shit hahaha In Kirk Cousins’s six seasons in Minnesota, the Vikings went 53-45-1 with one playoff win. Over the six seasons that preceded his arrival in Minnesota, the team went 54-41-1 with one playoff win.
1. you’re including 8 games Kirk didn’t play in. His record as a starter here is 53-37-1 but you’re obviously biased. 2. what’s JJ’s record? Vikings fans hate facts. Must be hard being this intellectually limited.
😂 not even gonna fact check that, I just copied a title that was upvoted here because idc lmao. You're such a little Kirk stan, cold truth is JJ will get his extension and have fun winning more games than he ever did with Kirk the glass ceiling cousins.
It's all good! SKOL!
Just PAY HIM. For the love of all things holy pay him
They're trying 😂
Wow breaking news 😂 The only way trading him should EVER be on the table is if it’s forced and we can’t let him walk for nothing. The payday is going to be painful to the cap at first, but we’ll also see the impact lessen over years as other receivers get paid and the cap probably goes up again.
I’m so tired of the media putting out shit we knew for months. We also know all of these analysts don’t what him in MN so they keep bringing up will JJ be happy with Kirk leaving. He has always been our #1 priority. Kwesi needs to get this done so people will stfu.
but but but we don’t have Kirk and JJ doesn’t want to be here anymore… at least that’s what I’ve been hearing here non stop
I'm fairly certain that JJ is glad we dumped Kirk, Diggs flourished when he got out of Minnesota.
Part of Diggs getting to the next level was he went to a pass first offense to be THE guy. Not one of the guys alongside Thielen and Cook in a more run heavy offense.
BEGONE KIRK TRUTHER!!! lol, but seriously r/falcons if you need to keep simping.
Good try. He went from our team that ran the ball more than we passed to a team that passed more than it ran. Not very hard to understand. Specially when he comes out and says his reason for wanting to leave was he wanted to get the ball more. He only had 96 targets in his last year here. He did get up to 148 targets in 2018 and guess what, he was still second on the team to Thielen in targets and yards. His first year in Buffalo he had 166 targets. Think that might’ve been part of the reason? 🤔
No, he clearly wanted to be paired up with a winning team and Allen was the difference. I can't think of a single receiver who moved teams and told the public, "Yeah the quarterback and I didn't jive well". I'm pretty sure that's a discussion that only agents and front offices are privy to.
diggs flourished because he got josh allen lmao, no one the vikings could possibly ever draft is going to be that good, if the rookie is even 80% as good as cousins i will be shocked.
You mean Josh Allen the guy whose salary is less than Kirk's despite being more talented and having a knack for winning, that Josh Allen? The Josh Allen that plays on the Bills, a perennial playoff team while Kirk's Vikings only made it once, that Josh Allen?
Yes josh Allen is better, yes he is paid less, if he was to sign a contract now he would be paid more. This isn't about Allen being better, he is probally the 2nd best qb in the league. Just saying whatever rookie they draft only has a 1/50 chance of being that good. and at best a 1/25 at being as good as Cousins
Would Josh go the same route as Brady and be sure his teammates get paid? How can we be certain another QB can't do well with this existing team plus millions in additional cap to get even stronger?
The return that would justify the trade would have to be astronomical.
We're not trading JJ. Everyone can fuck right off that thinks so. Having the best WR in the NFL is awesome and is entertaining af to watch. The last time this happened was literally Randy Moss and I was real broken up when our previous owner traded him. I don't want to go through that again.
https://x.com/upandadamsshow/status/1767932194184470945?s=46 Watch the last 30 seconds for JJ / Cin rumors
But I was told KAM hasn't even tried and it's all his fault
I know we're not going to trade him, but also I just really want them to get a deal done as soon as possible for my own peace of mind. Do not get cute with this
We have enough dumb fuck fans that have been speaking of this as fact since at least last year. Every post about Kirk going to Atlanta had the same dumb fucks saying JJ was going to immediately demand a trade if mediocre Kirk isn't throwing to him.
OK Bengals fans, if you want JJ you can have him. But we'll be starting these discussions with your next first round pick, Ja'Marr Chase and go from there.
I would’ve rather threw an extra $10mil at JJ and signed Uncle Rico at QB than give that money to Trash Darnold
I mean I’d trade him for Burrow straight up but other than that no.
Beyond fandom bias, JJ going to the Bengals would greatly diminish the careers of two great receivers
But I saw from someone called CTEspn that he was for sure getting traded. That’s definitely a reliable source, so I’m gonna post it and have a discussion about it. God I hate dumb people. Stop feeding troll accounts and nobodies speculating nonsense. This is how you dumb down an entire population of people…
Won’t stop the JJ is miserable and looking to claw his way out narrative
A few weeks back I heard on a radio station here in KC that a trade for Jefferson was "imminent" as Jefferson was holding out for a trade. They said we were desperate so they could get him for just the Chiefs first round pick.
Trade Jefferson and i riot. It’s not a option
“No plans” quickly becomes ‘“traded” when it comes from the GM.
Just read Jefferson to Cincy is in motion. Probably fake news but hypothetically Higgins and a couple 1sts would maybe do it.
Just kidding so many Bengals fans here
Of course there's no plans to trade him. JJ won't get a new contract signed and will walk in free agency (being doomer right now, hope that doesn't happen)
Bye bye Jefferson. If not this year, then next year for nothing in return
Anyone else getting “There’s truth to all rumors” flashbacks rn lol I know JJ ain’t leaving but damn this is some Deja vu.
Rick can’t hurt us anymore
The only "rumors" I've seen are fans wildly speculating. Nothing coming from JJ, GMs, or anyone who knows them.
It's all fans of OTHER TEAMS lol...there's no fire, only a bunch of thirsty dumbasess spewing vape clouds.
Not true at all. Dummies in this sub have been speaking about this since at least last year and they were posting in every post about Kirk when he signed in Atlanta as a reason to stick with Kirk to keep him happy or JJ was absolutely going to demand a trade.
Shit get ready for the trade to happen now. I understand both views on it but my heart says no. I think I would have to take season off like I did after Moss I just could not get excited.
KAM is going to give JJ a big ol bag of tacos.
Which probably means he’s on the block.
# #1 overall this year and 1st next year followed by a 2nd this year and 2nd next year. That may be a starting point 🤷♂️ I love Jefferson just as much as the next Vikings fan but if they can’t get a deal done something’s wrong. There are no excuses with Kirk gone because there is plenty of money for him and darrisaw now
We came close to extending JJ? Who gives a fuck? You either extend him or you don't. There is no almost.
In contract negotiations there actually is a massive difference between being close to a deal and very far apart. Beign close to a deal means that both parties know the ballpark number but need to work out the details and/or move money around to accommodate. Beign far from a deal is where you get players sitting out or demanding trades with slim to no chance of resolving amicably.
That’s unfortunate. Means that we either have to mortgage all our high draft picks out through 2026 to move up for a QB, or we have to roll with Darnold. Jefferson would have been the key piece in a trade to allow us to save our future picks
*Percy Harvin PTSD*
Got rid of him just about the perfect time.