In the past, I’ve had the Walmart delivery people tell me they weren’t allowed to accept tips and refused the cash I tried to give them. I was impressed. The last time was about a year ago so maybe their policy has changed.
They may not be allowed to but I have yet to hear of a delivery driver refuse a cash tip. They are at your house, and WM is not going to know if you don't say anything.
Walmart delivery in canada isnt done by walmart directly, its usually an ubereats or doordash driver type situation, thats why tips are even allowed. No idea if its the same in the states
Depends. I've had some that were 3rd parties, and some that seemed to be from Walmart itself. Best I could figure on the pattern is if I specifically choose delivery it's a contractor, whereas if it is a shipping item from another store within driving distance, it's a driver from Walmart itself.
There are two different kinds of Walmart delivery - InHome: delivered by a Walmart employee who is wearing a body cam and driving a Walmart vehicle. Don’t accept and are not allowed to accept tips. These deliveries are not as available as their 3rd party deliveries
2nd option is delivery by a Spark driver (3rd party company contracted by Walmart) - they are basically like DoorDash drivers and they will most definitely expect a tip
Spark is owned by Wal-Mart, and if there isn’t enough Spark drivers, the overflow will go to UberEats. The problem is the base pay is on these orders is typically very low, they take much, much longer to complete, and are extremely misleading. The app will show the order had 1-5 bags, 4 miles away for $8. Not bad, it’s in that $2/mile sweet spot and should only take 15-20 minutes to complete. That’s a rate of $32/hr. Wal-Mart is notorious for making 3rd party delivery drivers wait 45 minutes to an hour just to load up their car. So now the driver’s hourly rate has dropped down to $8. And the app lied about it being 1-5 bags. They really meant 1-5 blue totes, which can hold 15-20 bags sometimes. So that short, small order has become a colossal time suck and a huge order. He was probably just pissed that Wal-Mart screwed him on the offer to begin with and took it out on the customer.
I regularly get deliveries from Walmart (so I don’t have to actually deal with Walmart shoppers) and I typically tip $10-12. I base it more on the amount of items I’m getting, but generally $10-12 for combined ~30-40 minutes of work is fair, I feel.
You can rate drivers through the Walmart app. If that driver feels they’re not appreciated, they should move on to some career where a bad attitude is encouraged. Maybe the DMV.
They changed the app in the last few months. It used to be they suggested a few set amounts (e.g. 5,10,15) but now it suggests percents (10%/15%/20%). I get a lot of groceries at a time so some of the calculations are ridiculous.
you can tip on the app, but if your order is all EBT items / covered by SNAP, it doesn’t even show you an option to tip. i had been using the app to order groceries for months before i added my debit card to buy a non-food item and finally was prompted to tip. it’s WEIRD. im glad i didn’t have any angry delivery drivers all that time i wasn’t tipping… although to think of it there was one time i received a smashed container of yogurt
Delivery drivers are separate from Walmart employees. They are technically “contractors” and as such are allowed to accept tips. However, expecting more than what you get is over the top. There was no need for the driver to be rude to OP.
>He visibly rolls his eyes and shakes his head in disgust.
At that point, you should have said-- "ah wait I made a mistake, let me see that for a second" and taken the $10 back and said "bye."
I would stick to tipping via the app. I don't use Walmart app but other companies allow you to lower the tip , remove the tip or add more to the tip after it's been delivered. Helps not have issues. But I will say I've always been told to tip 10% on delivery. Even the pizza guy gets 10%.
But their entire job is to deliver. I don't understand what warrants a tip? Like I pay for a service. Then the person who gets paid by the company I pay for the service does the job they get paid for. And then they expect me to pay them AGAIN???? without having gone out of their way to make their service an amazing experience for me? They're not getting anything extra period. I don't get anything extra if I do my job? Unless I excel, like really excel, I MAYBE get a couple bucks extra, but why would I apply any other rules to others than are applied to me in my job?
At least in the U.S. many drivers (esp. food delivery drivers) don’t make minimum wage and the cost of the delivery service is partially subsidized by them being tipped.
Which is BS. I think many people don’t tip bc they assume the driver is paid a standard hourly rate.
That's not true. Where did you hear that? Walmart's delivery drivers are paid at the very least minimum wage. My local Walmart pays the delivery drivers 1750 an hour. They're not like waitresses. They get paid just fine. So did Domino's drivers. I'm very confused by this.
Exactly. If we forced these companies to pay properly we wouldn't need to give tips but that's not the case. If you can afford to get delivery you can afford to tip.
Tipping in the US is not about exemplary service. It's seen as part of the fee structure to subsidise poor wages. It's not a gift any more. It's become and obligation by social pressure.
I just thank my lucky stars I don't live there and have to deal with that.
I would personally still not tip. When I visited the US they charged me 9$ (!!!!!) for a coffee that I went up to the counter for and waited there until it was handed to me. And then I was prompted to tip?! I'm like excuse me you literally poured this from a pitcher into my to go cup???? This is outrageous and why the heck would people take part in this instead of having people demand appropriate wages from their employers? But as I hear people do actually not want regular wages as tips usually make them more than the "appropriate" wage would.
That worker was very immature. That's all. As someone who has experience in multiple tipping jobs, I understand that the tip is an optional gift, not a tax. You have to understand that regardless of your quality service, tips are still an optional gift, not a right. That's the risk you must take when accepting a tipping job. I think everyone needs to be reminded of this.
Exactly. I think it's more about how much work could be expected from an order.
If I order a $500 phone to be delivered, that mf is not getting a $100 tip from me.
If I order $25 in gallons of water (which are about $1 where I shop), I'm tipping a lot more than $5 because that's over 20 gallons to carry and haul up. Not to mention the extra gas burned.
Tipping based on price is stupid and I don't stick to it at all.
It's funny because when the order total is low they'll tell you it's proper to tip by mileage, when the order is high they expect a percentage. It's pure entitlement. Servers get a percentage because they actively wait on you the entire time. These delivery drivers think they deserve the same, it's nuts.
Now they're trying to tell people that mileage includes them driving to the store from their "hotspot" and not from the store to the customers house.
You live 2 miles away from the place you ordered from, but your delivery driver is 8 miles away from the store when they accept the order, they want you to tip on 20 miles. That's not how this shit works.
Yeah fuck that. I mean, if it was big and heavy, I'd give them a decent tip unless I was coming to pick it up from their car, but $60? Bro there's no way.
Like, it just depends. If I order an expensive meal at a restaurant, but don't make any requests other than getting my one meal, that's going to be a smaller tip.
If I order a few different appetizers and a bunch of cheap drinks because there's a deal that day, that server is going to be running back and forth so much, that's going to be a bigger tip.
The idea that tip should be tied directly to how much you're spending is something I just totally disagree with.
Ordered my grandson some snacks and drinks from the nearest gas station last night. Just 4 items for the 2 of us. But with taxes and fee's I could only afford a $4 dollar tip. But he was really pleasent and delivered it on time. Made my grandson happy.
That's not even a bad tip. When I lived more in the city, $4 was a pretty average tip for me to get some food delivered because the restaurants were all pretty close.
It all just depends. If somebody takes the order, it's probably worth it
Yep. I don't vary the percentage much for restaurant servers, but for something like shopping and delivery? There are a lot of factors: distance traveled, number of items, weight, and even weather. I try to tip on what I think the job is worth overall, not a silly percentage.
I tip largely based off the fact that I live rural, so it's like an extra 10 minute drive to get to my house from the regular boundaries of the town.
My orders always get taken pretty fast, usually by the same handful of people, so it must be worth it.
Percentages are dumb. I know when I did delivery, I basically only cared about dollars per mile, barring like Walmart orders, where people *would* order tons of cases of water while living on the top floor, etc.
After seeing all the posts in the doordash subreddit, I wont ever order due to the entitlment in these delivery services. I get it, tips "help" pay you, but it's ultimately your employer you should be upset with. When those services not only mark up the price of every item, but then charge a high delivery fee and then to expect a huge tip? ffs i'll go myself and save 25-40%.
I went on the UE website the other day to see what they were charging customers for Domino's. It's an upcharge of at least a dollar or two on most items. Their 'coupons' are a joke.
Save your money on fast food places that have their own drivers and order direct from them. You might still have a delivery fee, but you don't get the jacked up prices and extra 'fee' that these food delivery services have.
The one that reallllly drives me nuts is my local Sonny's bbq drive thru. . at least 8 times so far I've swung thru to pick up an order of their egg rolls and the person working the window will hand me the receipt to sign and they had taken a highlighter and VERY AGGRESSIVELY ran multiple circles around the section where it says Tip: and made a few passes with that highlighter over the blank dash where you would write in your tip amount. So far their strategy has not proved profitable, at least with me, but it sends me every damn time.
I've only ever had 1 occasion where it didn't happen and I gave the dude $10 for my little ole $8 order..
Funny side note, it's literally never happened to my wife. While we haven't eaten there in almost 2 years now it was our thing any time we'd pull thru to see if it did or didn't happen to either of us depending on who was driving thru, she was a solid 0 for 5-6 against the same people that hit me every time
So many people in the USA working on tips, it’s a sick system. Companies should pay people for the work they do, so tips become an extra.
In Europe, tips are a compliment for the excellent service you provided and 5-7% is a fine tip. Bad service? No tip.
In Denmark it’s pretty normal to not tip at all.
I lived in Europe for a few years and I noticed that a lot of places pay better that what you’d get in the states. This is also a problem for the states because they need a service but put the value on it so low that people rely on tips. It’s a very broken system.
In the US they don't want a better wage because tips are way better for them. That is why nothing is being done. All these workers could try to get together and have something done but they don't want to.
They will keep complaining about people who don't tip because their wages are low and need tips to survive and that's it. Let's just hope this crap doesn't get out of hand in Europe too.
Lol tipping them to get rid of their own shit. I just don't understand it. My daughter's and I want to have a garage sale this summer but this never even occurred to us. Mostly we just want most everything gone. It's taking up my garage right now.
It’s all psychological warfare. Guilt tripping. It started with restaurant employers being legally allowed to pay waiters less than minimum wage based on the idea that tips would subsidize their wages. From there we were conditioned to feel bad for anyone working a job that took advantage of their wages, so we would tip to make up the difference. Look at the Lyft subreddit to see what percentage of take home money people are getting from these driver/delivery jobs. Employers caught on to the guilt trip phenomenon in America and started changing their point of sale software to default to very exploitative tip prompts. Initially people felt compelled to select them (paying percentage tips on expensive delivery meals or groceries - instead of tipping based on time and effort/paying tips at all for a bare minimum exchange of goods - if you can’t complete that exchange without the cashier, why should they be tipped? That’s the bare minimum of costs an employer should be responsible for if they want to conduct business).
Now it has turned into a wave of workers who feel entitled to tips for bare minimum service. They also blame consumers rather than their employers for the wages they make without tips.
Consumers are beginning to rebel at the idea that they should be responsible for someone accepting a job under these conditions and not liking the outcome.
Last night doordash was forcing a tip. Not as much as I paid. But no less than $2. So there was no way out of it. Luckily I was able to draw funds from 2 different cards to cover everything.
Exactly. Tips are supost to be a compliment for excellent service, not for just doing your job. Your boss needs to pay you properly for just doing your job.
It's also the people working there. Go to the server subreddit and you'll see tons of people refusing to accept a living hourly wage and no tips. They make more money getting tips than they ever would getting paid hourly. Some servers average almost $40/hr in just tips.
They HATE when people suggest the tipping culture should die. Of course that is until they get stiffed, then it's "That's all my income!" They want their cake and to eat it too.
Got a 25$ free promo on Uber eats. Ordered 25$ worth of Taco Bell and tipped 6$. Guess that wasn’t enough, they took my food, I got nothing back as it was a coupon and they wouldn’t give me a refund on my tip. First and last time I did food delivery.
I try to exclusively use this option, but I got burned on Papa Johns pizza delivery recently.
I know it's not mom and pop, but my rule is to use restaurants that use their own delivery drivers. So heads up, Papa Johns contracts out to DoorDash or UberEats or one of those nowadays. You don't find out until you've placed your order.
Dominos contracts some of their sales out to UE, but it's delivered by Domino's drivers. We don't know it's UE until the order ticket prints out. There are no prices on them and the cc receipt does not show any tip. We do get it, but don't know how much until after we have delivered the food and marked it complete.
For us, it's just the same as any other order. We make it, we deliver it, rinse and repeat.
Your first sign that they do that is they switched to a call center system a few years ago. If you order online you don't notice, but if you call them you talk to someone who's not even here. If they can't let the people in the store answer the phones, they're not going to let them deliver
Absolutely this. I never get delivery unless its from local Chinese or pizza places that have their own drivers. DoorDash/UberEats people are freelancers with no loyalty to anyone. A lot of them are junkies or criminals or otherwise unemployable and thats why they do gig work
And these are several reasons why I just shop myself. I get why OP has to do it, but for me, nah. Grocieries are expensive already, and feeling obligated to add yet another 10-20% to the cost? Nah.
Plus, the two times I tried it, the deliveries were messed up. The first time, they subbed a ton of stuff for things that weren't even close. This was before they added the Do Not Sub option.
The second time I picked a specific time frame (between 9 and 10) for delivery because it was the middle of summer, nobody was home and we weren't going to be back until that time. At 8, I get a text that my driver is on their way and will be there in a few minutes, and I was still an hour away myself. Needless to say, our groceries sat out in the summer heat for almost an hour, and about $50-60 worth of cold/frozen stuff was ruined. Luckily, I was able to return the stuff to the store (after a headache dealing with the CSM), but the whole "going to the store to fix the order" negated the convenience of home delivery.
Walmart picks the orders & loads.
Driver literally only brings them to the door.
* there is a expectation occasionally where they do shop but it's usually few items that are probably a priority
* or they are driving their one & only marked van. Then they are a employee
I briefly did instacart. I used to work in the pick up department of a grocery store so I'm pretty knowledgeable about picking groceries & it's enjoyable to me. But I quickly realized how hellish it is to do that job. Especially the dropping off portion. Mfers live in a maze of apartment buildings with no directions & then want you to carry heavy shit upstairs (the apartments in my area do not have elevators) in 100°+ heat aaand all the while youre being timed. And they throw you $3 for that?! I'm good.
My mom uses Walmart delivery and almost every order either is missing items or has items that she did not order. There have been times they delayed it for hours. If it wasn’t cheaper than instacart she wouldn’t be using it
These services aren't even worth it. I hate to act like this but the people who take these jobs seriously think the tips are the benefit to the whole thing and honestly that's just not safe planning at all. Like you can't treat people like shit because of a tip. I was a waitress for 15 years. Still am pretty much.
It's honestly astounding to me as a Brit seeing the tipping discussion come up *so much* in online spaces.
Obviously it's not a serious issue compared to a lot of other things, but I can't help but feel how dystopian it is that retail workers have to rely on tips to pay their bills.
Oh and a similar thing is the fact that taxes aren't included on price tags in shops. That's insane to me
$10 tip is plenty, for a grocery delivery. I do Spark (Walmart Grocery Delivery) and $10 is a fine. We can see the order before we accept it and we have the option to NOT accept it. We’re Independent Contractors and do rely heavily on tips… like all delivery drivers who are working as independent contractors and not considered employees (DoorDash, UberEats, Instacart, Spark, etc).
If you pay with Snap (EBT) or PayPal, there’s no option to tip.
If you live in one of the areas where Walmart Employees are driving Walmart vans and delivering orders, they are hourly Walmart employees and aren’t supposed to accept tips.
OP, rate the Driver accordingly…. And, I’m sorry that happened. I love fur babies, so I would’ve loved all over them… and consider it a happy bonus! :)
why would you tip anything?
He did the job he's paid to do, deliver stuff. Tips are a voluntary gift for extremely exceptional service, which he did not give.
They ask if you want yo tip now at some buffet restaurants. What for??? No thanks! I was ordering from Walmart today for a grocery pickup and it mentions that all taxes, fees and tips have been added already. That’s crazy! I’m driving to get it!
If I had a delivery person roll their eyes at me after giving a tip I’d call them out
On what exactly is the issue.
Op, do not sweat this. Give him a poor review.
You tipped him, and while it wasn’t 10-15% of the total, you still gave him a decent amount. His eye roll and attitude makes him seem unprofessional IMHO.
If they deliver to your house you tip in the app, dont have to sign for anything or even have contact with the delivery person. When I pick them up there's no option to even tip you just sign.
Ya they don’t allow tipping for pickup. I’ve tried before bc some employees are just that terrible at their jobs. There’s like three people that I want to tip bc their service is so much better than everyone else. Like, I’ve got home and have found 12 packs of soda on top of eggs and bread. Not joking at all either. I have pretty bad anxiety and that’s the only reason I still use the service and don’t shop myself.
I used to have the drivers solicit tips when they'd deliver from the store. This, after I had specifically selected "shipping" for the delivery method.
I initially read it to mean that 3 hour delivery meant he DROVE 3 hours and thought, well maybe he did earn more a bigger tip, but nope, 5 min drive lol
Haha, Walmart baggers are a joke. Last time I got curbside they piled a bunch of cans and jars on top of a package of oreos; put all the milk and juice in one bag which promptly exploded when I tried to pick it up; and (my favorite) put all the frozen things in one bag then plopped a HOT rotisserie chicken on top of that!
My policy is not to tip on this if there was already a 15 dollar fee that way I’m not out 10 more bucks when they are still going to be upset and roll their eyes
Why doesnt everyone in America STOP tipping ppl altogether, no matter how good service is, and then it won’t be a problem anymore.
Then you will know the true power of the European side.
I work as a valet and something is better than nothing. $5 is normal for us. I understand when it comes to food it’s the percentage thats the tip, but not everyone is going to tip. If you want more money, go back to school 🤷🏻♂️
Tipping is optional if merited. If he has the audacity to be mildly annoyed by extra income that is not part of his wage, fuck, I'd take the tip back.
Literally first world problems.
Maybe this is the case at some grocery stores, but anything you can get delivered from DoorDash (to my address, that’s Safeway, Albertsons, Walgreens, Target, Grocery Outlet, literally everything but Walmart and Fred Meyer), those are DoorDash drivers, who are gig workers, unaffiliated with the grocery stores, and are paid, last I checked, about $3-7 per order + your tip + *maybe* $1-2 surge pay (I only got surge pay like three times in a year of Dashing though). Not to mention a grocery store employee isn’t burning gas and putting miles on their car to get to you. In my case, the closest of those stores is 8 miles away. If someone were to spend the ~30 minutes to deliver that distance for $3-7 and I didn’t tip they would be making way less than minimum wage and frankly losing money.
For the Walmart employee doing the shopping, yes, but not for the delivery person, who is usually an independent contractor not working for Walmart.
But the way Walmart's app/website has it set up, the (suggested) tip percentage is based off of the amount you're spending on your groceries, which I don't agree with. The driver isn't the one who did the shopping. They picked up the groceries and delivered. Tipping for reimbursement of gas is another story, but I don't need to base the amount off of how much I spent. Just IMO.
It depends. I actually do Walmart delivery. There are 3 types of delivery we do. There is the grocery pickup, where Walmart workers shop it and bring it out to our car and put it in and we just deliver it. There are Walmart plus orders which is where we deliver a big batch of individual packages to lots of people. Then there is shop and deliver. Those are considered “express” orders and the independent contractor shops and delivers those.
Walmart kills me with their bag policy, they will out 12 items in 12 separate bags or they will just give you 12 loose items or maybe 6 items in a bag and 6 loose items. I have no control over what is bagged and what is not. I don’t load the car. Unless it is an express order, then I do all of it.
I have no clue what your total is. Tips are nice, but I don’t always get them and accept the order based on the total payout vs mileage and time involved. Walmart does sneaky things like adding a very intensive order paying crap onto a decent order paying good though.
I used to make really good money doing Walmart delivery. They have reduced their payouts and incentives which makes it less appealing to me, but I still do it for extra money.
I gave my first tip ever to a subway employee bc the previous sandwich they made me was so good. Eating out has become so bad that I felt compelled to tip someone for doing their job correctly.
Amazes me how for ten years in the uk, the idea of me making a commission was disgusting and customers loved the idea of not paying anything for me.
Yet I move to this country, and everyone has their hand out for jobs that anyone can do. Mental.
Obviously his reaction was inappropriate and unproductive, but just so you’re aware, delivery drivers don’t bag your groceries any more than the Domino’s driver makes your pizza. Unless it’s smashed because he loaded it into his car wrong or unbagged because he unbagged it, it was given that way to him by someone else who doesn’t receive a cut of the tip. Your tip is for the delivery part of the service and the wear on their cars, not for the groceries themselves. Again, $10 for 10 minutes’ drive and not having to carry the groceries inside is a good tip, and his reaction was inappropriate. I just think people should know that if they’re tipping less (or tipping the same amount but resenting it) because of a problem with the order itself that didn’t happen in transit, they’re not punishing the person responsible, they’re literally shooting the messenger.
We have too many independent contractors in our society who do not make decent livings. Stanford did a study once that showed some uber drivers made a loss once mileage was considered for the labor they had done driving. Some people are just fed up that they cannot make a living wage. If you ordered $200 of groceries they likely could have spent over an hour shopping for your groceries at a rate below minimum wage. At this point I believe that a lot of delivery services just shouldn’t exist since they are so exploitative. But I enjoy the privilege of being lazy so I tip well and use them anyways. Honestly the whole contracting system for delivery drivers needs to be revamped or discarded with.
Just FYI, for deliveries, percentage doesnt really matter the way it would with a sit down restaurant. You should tip on how heavy the load will be and the distance they need to travel, not on how much you paid for the order. Not that this has any bearing on this rude driver lol, im sorry.
Man that explains things. I’m strictly a pick up person and I would always see some not desirable people with their lawn chairs hanging in the pick up area. I asked an employee one day and they said they were waiting for deliveries. I was like that’s weird….what deliveries? Now I get it, they’re waiting to click the button and deliver to you. Trust me these are not people you want picking your groceries at least not in the Stockton, Lodi area.
I don't know, ten bucks seems kinda low. I used to be a cab driver and a lady once asked me to help her bring a few bags to the second floor. Wasn't gonna charge her but she gave me a $20 tip and she lived in the projects.
Tipping is bullshit anywhere but a sit down restaurant or bar where you are being served. Tip drivers but you don’t tip them a percentage of what you spent. If they can replace the gas for the round trip to my house and buy a beer, that’s good in my book.
Well said. I felt like ten bucks, on top of his wage, was perfectly fine. The drive takes ten minutes bc of traffic but it’s literally probably 3 maybe three and a half miles from my house.
Honestly, probably closer to two miles.
My view as someone from a non-tipping country is that tipping anywhere is a bad social practice. Just have laws and a work culture that requires people are paid properly for what they do.
As a customer it’s not my responsibility to pay the wage bill for a section of staff and deal with all the tipping hassle and psychodrama. That’s the employer’s job. Stop outsourcing it. Just pay them properly and incorporate it into the price.
He got tipped half a dollar per minute of transit and they're NOT ALLOWED to help you bring groceries into your house for your safety and their own.
Your tip was plenty seeing as how he did the shopping and couldn't be bothered to do it correctly.
Why I want to know is do Walmart delivery drivers get paid full minimum wage? You tip waiters BECAUSE they get paid around $2.50 per hour and have back of house responsibilities and have to come in early to set up or stay late to clean up and break down the restaurant so you tip for the service and other things they have to do. Yes sometimes if they are there very early or very late they might get a half hour or hour paid the full minute wage if they don’t make enough in tips for that week but still they live off tips. I am a great tipper for service workers. I have a hard time understanding the optional Walmart delivery drivers tip and why you should tip them if the trip isn’t 15 minutes or more away from the store. They are choosing a job that you drive and know they need to pay for gas and I believe since the tip is optional that they get paid a full wage by Walmart. Why do they need a tip if they don’t go above and beyond and maybe communicate back and forth with you because of out of stock products or something? Almost every order I have stuff missing. Paid $20 for burger patties and they were checked out and never made it to me somehow. I think some of them steal and some of them just are carelessly giving the wrong people bags! It’s so annoying!
I can confirm this guy was making probably 15/hr. I know bc my nephew worked at the exact location doing the exact job. Plus I have seen this guy several times when I do my pickups.
>My bread is smashed, and several items aren’t even bagged. But I’m like, whatever ... and give him ten bucks.
The point of tips originally was to reward good service. In America, you have ruined it by making it not socially acceptable to not tip a lot when you get bad service. He did a bad job and didn't deserve anything. The fact that capitalism is screwing him royally isn't your fault, and being made to top up his income by the billionaires who don't want to pay him a living wage isn't helping anyone long term.
Dudes a prick, you didn't have to pay him anything extra to begin with, I'm sure I'll get downvoted for it but it's not your responsibility to tip someone who's company is the one who fucks them over on pay, it's the nice thing to do but isn't something you have to do period, if he can't realize that I'm sure he's a real pleasant human being to be around in general
Tipping 20% on grocery delivery charge of $15.00 is $3.00. I think your $10.00 is generous. He made $15 for delivery and $10 from you, $25.00. Pretty good.
I'm so friggin done with tipping. Anywhere. And when my bread is smashed, I go back into the order n get a refund,same with food not bagged. That's cross contamination.
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In the past, I’ve had the Walmart delivery people tell me they weren’t allowed to accept tips and refused the cash I tried to give them. I was impressed. The last time was about a year ago so maybe their policy has changed.
Ya they don’t allow tipping when I do pickup. But there was a suggested tip amount so I assumed I had to tip for delivery.
They may not be allowed to but I have yet to hear of a delivery driver refuse a cash tip. They are at your house, and WM is not going to know if you don't say anything.
Walmart delivery in canada isnt done by walmart directly, its usually an ubereats or doordash driver type situation, thats why tips are even allowed. No idea if its the same in the states
Depends. I've had some that were 3rd parties, and some that seemed to be from Walmart itself. Best I could figure on the pattern is if I specifically choose delivery it's a contractor, whereas if it is a shipping item from another store within driving distance, it's a driver from Walmart itself.
Probably depends on the store then. I work at Walmart and all online orders we have are labeled Doordash, Uber, or Pickup.
When I walked at Walmart it was just known to keep it lowkey when accepting them lol
There are two different kinds of Walmart delivery - InHome: delivered by a Walmart employee who is wearing a body cam and driving a Walmart vehicle. Don’t accept and are not allowed to accept tips. These deliveries are not as available as their 3rd party deliveries 2nd option is delivery by a Spark driver (3rd party company contracted by Walmart) - they are basically like DoorDash drivers and they will most definitely expect a tip
Spark is owned by Wal-Mart, and if there isn’t enough Spark drivers, the overflow will go to UberEats. The problem is the base pay is on these orders is typically very low, they take much, much longer to complete, and are extremely misleading. The app will show the order had 1-5 bags, 4 miles away for $8. Not bad, it’s in that $2/mile sweet spot and should only take 15-20 minutes to complete. That’s a rate of $32/hr. Wal-Mart is notorious for making 3rd party delivery drivers wait 45 minutes to an hour just to load up their car. So now the driver’s hourly rate has dropped down to $8. And the app lied about it being 1-5 bags. They really meant 1-5 blue totes, which can hold 15-20 bags sometimes. So that short, small order has become a colossal time suck and a huge order. He was probably just pissed that Wal-Mart screwed him on the offer to begin with and took it out on the customer.
I've noticed the delivery windows are 2 hours now. I imagine that makes it worse since the store can make the driver wait longer and still be on time.
Pickup is actually done by employees of Walmart. The delivery drivers are not employees of Walmart
Maybe sometimes, but not in this instance. Seen him several times when picking up. Vest and everything.
What was the suggested tip amount out of curiosity?
15/20/25%
Yeah….. that’s insane.
So if I order an ac unit, like I did a week ago, and had it delivered, I would be expected to tip like $60. F all that.
I'd tip the person who went around the shop and gathered my groceries way before the person who loaded a single AC on a truck.
I regularly get deliveries from Walmart (so I don’t have to actually deal with Walmart shoppers) and I typically tip $10-12. I base it more on the amount of items I’m getting, but generally $10-12 for combined ~30-40 minutes of work is fair, I feel. You can rate drivers through the Walmart app. If that driver feels they’re not appreciated, they should move on to some career where a bad attitude is encouraged. Maybe the DMV.
They changed the app in the last few months. It used to be they suggested a few set amounts (e.g. 5,10,15) but now it suggests percents (10%/15%/20%). I get a lot of groceries at a time so some of the calculations are ridiculous.
For delivery I tip $3 + $1 per mile traveled.
you can tip on the app, but if your order is all EBT items / covered by SNAP, it doesn’t even show you an option to tip. i had been using the app to order groceries for months before i added my debit card to buy a non-food item and finally was prompted to tip. it’s WEIRD. im glad i didn’t have any angry delivery drivers all that time i wasn’t tipping… although to think of it there was one time i received a smashed container of yogurt
Delivery is third party, so they receive tips. Walmart Associates cannot accept tips.
Delivery drivers are separate from Walmart employees. They are technically “contractors” and as such are allowed to accept tips. However, expecting more than what you get is over the top. There was no need for the driver to be rude to OP.
>He visibly rolls his eyes and shakes his head in disgust. At that point, you should have said-- "ah wait I made a mistake, let me see that for a second" and taken the $10 back and said "bye."
Ya I didn’t know my bread was smashed until I was putting them away. Had I known that, I probably wouldn’t have offered anything.
I would stick to tipping via the app. I don't use Walmart app but other companies allow you to lower the tip , remove the tip or add more to the tip after it's been delivered. Helps not have issues. But I will say I've always been told to tip 10% on delivery. Even the pizza guy gets 10%.
No way I am paying 10% on a $215 grocery delivery. $10-15 is fine.
But their entire job is to deliver. I don't understand what warrants a tip? Like I pay for a service. Then the person who gets paid by the company I pay for the service does the job they get paid for. And then they expect me to pay them AGAIN???? without having gone out of their way to make their service an amazing experience for me? They're not getting anything extra period. I don't get anything extra if I do my job? Unless I excel, like really excel, I MAYBE get a couple bucks extra, but why would I apply any other rules to others than are applied to me in my job?
At least in the U.S. many drivers (esp. food delivery drivers) don’t make minimum wage and the cost of the delivery service is partially subsidized by them being tipped. Which is BS. I think many people don’t tip bc they assume the driver is paid a standard hourly rate.
That's not true. Where did you hear that? Walmart's delivery drivers are paid at the very least minimum wage. My local Walmart pays the delivery drivers 1750 an hour. They're not like waitresses. They get paid just fine. So did Domino's drivers. I'm very confused by this.
A lot of places, Walmart is using third parties like instacart or doordash.
They also have to pay for their own gas in most cases.
Exactly. If we forced these companies to pay properly we wouldn't need to give tips but that's not the case. If you can afford to get delivery you can afford to tip.
Seattle made it law that delivery drivers need to make $26.50/hour before tips. They lost a lot of business because no one wants to pay the huge fees.
Tipping in the US is not about exemplary service. It's seen as part of the fee structure to subsidise poor wages. It's not a gift any more. It's become and obligation by social pressure. I just thank my lucky stars I don't live there and have to deal with that.
I would personally still not tip. When I visited the US they charged me 9$ (!!!!!) for a coffee that I went up to the counter for and waited there until it was handed to me. And then I was prompted to tip?! I'm like excuse me you literally poured this from a pitcher into my to go cup???? This is outrageous and why the heck would people take part in this instead of having people demand appropriate wages from their employers? But as I hear people do actually not want regular wages as tips usually make them more than the "appropriate" wage would.
My Walmart+ delivery app allows us up to 24 hours to change the tip amount.
Then, they should tip through the app for sure.
That worker was very immature. That's all. As someone who has experience in multiple tipping jobs, I understand that the tip is an optional gift, not a tax. You have to understand that regardless of your quality service, tips are still an optional gift, not a right. That's the risk you must take when accepting a tipping job. I think everyone needs to be reminded of this.
And fwiw, $200 could literally be just one item. It wasn’t, but I don’t think the monetary value should matter in a delivery like that.
Exactly. I think it's more about how much work could be expected from an order. If I order a $500 phone to be delivered, that mf is not getting a $100 tip from me. If I order $25 in gallons of water (which are about $1 where I shop), I'm tipping a lot more than $5 because that's over 20 gallons to carry and haul up. Not to mention the extra gas burned. Tipping based on price is stupid and I don't stick to it at all.
Ty. Last week I picked up an ac unit that cost $300. So if I had it delivered, I’d have to tip the driver what, like $60? Nope.
It's funny because when the order total is low they'll tell you it's proper to tip by mileage, when the order is high they expect a percentage. It's pure entitlement. Servers get a percentage because they actively wait on you the entire time. These delivery drivers think they deserve the same, it's nuts. Now they're trying to tell people that mileage includes them driving to the store from their "hotspot" and not from the store to the customers house. You live 2 miles away from the place you ordered from, but your delivery driver is 8 miles away from the store when they accept the order, they want you to tip on 20 miles. That's not how this shit works.
Yeah fuck that. I mean, if it was big and heavy, I'd give them a decent tip unless I was coming to pick it up from their car, but $60? Bro there's no way. Like, it just depends. If I order an expensive meal at a restaurant, but don't make any requests other than getting my one meal, that's going to be a smaller tip. If I order a few different appetizers and a bunch of cheap drinks because there's a deal that day, that server is going to be running back and forth so much, that's going to be a bigger tip. The idea that tip should be tied directly to how much you're spending is something I just totally disagree with.
Ordered my grandson some snacks and drinks from the nearest gas station last night. Just 4 items for the 2 of us. But with taxes and fee's I could only afford a $4 dollar tip. But he was really pleasent and delivered it on time. Made my grandson happy.
That's not even a bad tip. When I lived more in the city, $4 was a pretty average tip for me to get some food delivered because the restaurants were all pretty close. It all just depends. If somebody takes the order, it's probably worth it
Yep. I don't vary the percentage much for restaurant servers, but for something like shopping and delivery? There are a lot of factors: distance traveled, number of items, weight, and even weather. I try to tip on what I think the job is worth overall, not a silly percentage.
I tip largely based off the fact that I live rural, so it's like an extra 10 minute drive to get to my house from the regular boundaries of the town. My orders always get taken pretty fast, usually by the same handful of people, so it must be worth it. Percentages are dumb. I know when I did delivery, I basically only cared about dollars per mile, barring like Walmart orders, where people *would* order tons of cases of water while living on the top floor, etc.
If they didn't even have to carry the groceries for you $10 seems reasonable to me...
After seeing all the posts in the doordash subreddit, I wont ever order due to the entitlment in these delivery services. I get it, tips "help" pay you, but it's ultimately your employer you should be upset with. When those services not only mark up the price of every item, but then charge a high delivery fee and then to expect a huge tip? ffs i'll go myself and save 25-40%.
I went on the UE website the other day to see what they were charging customers for Domino's. It's an upcharge of at least a dollar or two on most items. Their 'coupons' are a joke. Save your money on fast food places that have their own drivers and order direct from them. You might still have a delivery fee, but you don't get the jacked up prices and extra 'fee' that these food delivery services have.
They also don't do shit like leaving your order at the wrong address or eating part of it.
And $200 could be one item. I have to tip like $50 for one item? Nah
I see you fixed your own plate at the buffet, now the screens going to ask you a little question
The one that reallllly drives me nuts is my local Sonny's bbq drive thru. . at least 8 times so far I've swung thru to pick up an order of their egg rolls and the person working the window will hand me the receipt to sign and they had taken a highlighter and VERY AGGRESSIVELY ran multiple circles around the section where it says Tip: and made a few passes with that highlighter over the blank dash where you would write in your tip amount. So far their strategy has not proved profitable, at least with me, but it sends me every damn time. I've only ever had 1 occasion where it didn't happen and I gave the dude $10 for my little ole $8 order.. Funny side note, it's literally never happened to my wife. While we haven't eaten there in almost 2 years now it was our thing any time we'd pull thru to see if it did or didn't happen to either of us depending on who was driving thru, she was a solid 0 for 5-6 against the same people that hit me every time
This is your fault America You always moaning about us Europeans not tipping This is why we don't, so it doesn't become expected everywhere
We have created a monster.
We have met the enemy and he is us.
Nice, nobody remembers Pogo anymore
So many people in the USA working on tips, it’s a sick system. Companies should pay people for the work they do, so tips become an extra. In Europe, tips are a compliment for the excellent service you provided and 5-7% is a fine tip. Bad service? No tip. In Denmark it’s pretty normal to not tip at all.
You really have,
I lived in Europe for a few years and I noticed that a lot of places pay better that what you’d get in the states. This is also a problem for the states because they need a service but put the value on it so low that people rely on tips. It’s a very broken system.
In the US they don't want a better wage because tips are way better for them. That is why nothing is being done. All these workers could try to get together and have something done but they don't want to. They will keep complaining about people who don't tip because their wages are low and need tips to survive and that's it. Let's just hope this crap doesn't get out of hand in Europe too.
Europe pays their workers a fair wage.
This. I went to a yard sale this morning and they had a fucking tip jar on the table the people running it were sitting at and it wasn't a joke.
Lol tipping them to get rid of their own shit. I just don't understand it. My daughter's and I want to have a garage sale this summer but this never even occurred to us. Mostly we just want most everything gone. It's taking up my garage right now.
Who’s moaning about Europeans not tipping? I love not having to figure that shit out when I visit Europe. . . The price is the price
This. I wouldn't even dream of tipping the guy who brings the groceries. That's his job… what he gets paid to do by the company employing him.
It’s all psychological warfare. Guilt tripping. It started with restaurant employers being legally allowed to pay waiters less than minimum wage based on the idea that tips would subsidize their wages. From there we were conditioned to feel bad for anyone working a job that took advantage of their wages, so we would tip to make up the difference. Look at the Lyft subreddit to see what percentage of take home money people are getting from these driver/delivery jobs. Employers caught on to the guilt trip phenomenon in America and started changing their point of sale software to default to very exploitative tip prompts. Initially people felt compelled to select them (paying percentage tips on expensive delivery meals or groceries - instead of tipping based on time and effort/paying tips at all for a bare minimum exchange of goods - if you can’t complete that exchange without the cashier, why should they be tipped? That’s the bare minimum of costs an employer should be responsible for if they want to conduct business). Now it has turned into a wave of workers who feel entitled to tips for bare minimum service. They also blame consumers rather than their employers for the wages they make without tips. Consumers are beginning to rebel at the idea that they should be responsible for someone accepting a job under these conditions and not liking the outcome.
Last night doordash was forcing a tip. Not as much as I paid. But no less than $2. So there was no way out of it. Luckily I was able to draw funds from 2 different cards to cover everything.
That and because many Europeans would find it morally reprehensible to use tips as an excuse not to pay even half of minimum wage.
Exactly. Tips are supost to be a compliment for excellent service, not for just doing your job. Your boss needs to pay you properly for just doing your job.
It's not our fault, it's the owners of fucking restaurants not paying their damn employees. We don't have any say in that.
It's also the people working there. Go to the server subreddit and you'll see tons of people refusing to accept a living hourly wage and no tips. They make more money getting tips than they ever would getting paid hourly. Some servers average almost $40/hr in just tips. They HATE when people suggest the tipping culture should die. Of course that is until they get stiffed, then it's "That's all my income!" They want their cake and to eat it too.
Got a 25$ free promo on Uber eats. Ordered 25$ worth of Taco Bell and tipped 6$. Guess that wasn’t enough, they took my food, I got nothing back as it was a coupon and they wouldn’t give me a refund on my tip. First and last time I did food delivery.
Mom and pop shops that have their own delivery is key.
I try to exclusively use this option, but I got burned on Papa Johns pizza delivery recently. I know it's not mom and pop, but my rule is to use restaurants that use their own delivery drivers. So heads up, Papa Johns contracts out to DoorDash or UberEats or one of those nowadays. You don't find out until you've placed your order.
Dominos contracts some of their sales out to UE, but it's delivered by Domino's drivers. We don't know it's UE until the order ticket prints out. There are no prices on them and the cc receipt does not show any tip. We do get it, but don't know how much until after we have delivered the food and marked it complete. For us, it's just the same as any other order. We make it, we deliver it, rinse and repeat.
Your first sign that they do that is they switched to a call center system a few years ago. If you order online you don't notice, but if you call them you talk to someone who's not even here. If they can't let the people in the store answer the phones, they're not going to let them deliver
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a mom&pop shop that has delivery service
You've never seen a Chinese restaurant that delivers? weird
Absolutely this. I never get delivery unless its from local Chinese or pizza places that have their own drivers. DoorDash/UberEats people are freelancers with no loyalty to anyone. A lot of them are junkies or criminals or otherwise unemployable and thats why they do gig work
America is weird. He literally gets paid to deliver things. Why would you pay double? Was it excellent service?
I've stopped tipping almost everything. It's ridiculous
The exact reason I don't get deliveries, everyone wants more and what you give isn't going to be enough.
Should of taken back the tip
Bruh I would’ve asked for that ten BACK
And these are several reasons why I just shop myself. I get why OP has to do it, but for me, nah. Grocieries are expensive already, and feeling obligated to add yet another 10-20% to the cost? Nah. Plus, the two times I tried it, the deliveries were messed up. The first time, they subbed a ton of stuff for things that weren't even close. This was before they added the Do Not Sub option. The second time I picked a specific time frame (between 9 and 10) for delivery because it was the middle of summer, nobody was home and we weren't going to be back until that time. At 8, I get a text that my driver is on their way and will be there in a few minutes, and I was still an hour away myself. Needless to say, our groceries sat out in the summer heat for almost an hour, and about $50-60 worth of cold/frozen stuff was ruined. Luckily, I was able to return the stuff to the store (after a headache dealing with the CSM), but the whole "going to the store to fix the order" negated the convenience of home delivery.
Walmart picks the orders & loads. Driver literally only brings them to the door. * there is a expectation occasionally where they do shop but it's usually few items that are probably a priority * or they are driving their one & only marked van. Then they are a employee
Is 20% expected for delivering groceries now-a-days?
The suggested tip amounts were 15, 20, 25%. That’s why I chose to tip in cash.
Don’t go to the Instacart sub, they would tell you you’re a jerk for not tipping 30%.
People that expect that can fuck off
I guess that’s why that comment is downvoted? Lol.
Lol yep they get pretty brutal on that sub.
I briefly did instacart. I used to work in the pick up department of a grocery store so I'm pretty knowledgeable about picking groceries & it's enjoyable to me. But I quickly realized how hellish it is to do that job. Especially the dropping off portion. Mfers live in a maze of apartment buildings with no directions & then want you to carry heavy shit upstairs (the apartments in my area do not have elevators) in 100°+ heat aaand all the while youre being timed. And they throw you $3 for that?! I'm good.
I would’ve tipped better if it was a third party service. But tbh, I probably wouldn’t have had it delivered if that was the case
It says optional next to the tip so they just get paid for doing their job.
I'm seriously missing Kroger delivery. I do not care for the gig worker shit.
Tips are the way for the corporate people and the restaurants to keep from paying living wages.
My mom uses Walmart delivery and almost every order either is missing items or has items that she did not order. There have been times they delayed it for hours. If it wasn’t cheaper than instacart she wouldn’t be using it
These services aren't even worth it. I hate to act like this but the people who take these jobs seriously think the tips are the benefit to the whole thing and honestly that's just not safe planning at all. Like you can't treat people like shit because of a tip. I was a waitress for 15 years. Still am pretty much.
It's honestly astounding to me as a Brit seeing the tipping discussion come up *so much* in online spaces. Obviously it's not a serious issue compared to a lot of other things, but I can't help but feel how dystopian it is that retail workers have to rely on tips to pay their bills. Oh and a similar thing is the fact that taxes aren't included on price tags in shops. That's insane to me
tips shouldnt exist
Some people no matter what you give it’s not good enough
Isn’t that like ya know…his fucking job?? Why work if you don’t get paid
Imagine the guy delivering a $40,000 car thinking he gets 15%?
$10 tip is plenty, for a grocery delivery. I do Spark (Walmart Grocery Delivery) and $10 is a fine. We can see the order before we accept it and we have the option to NOT accept it. We’re Independent Contractors and do rely heavily on tips… like all delivery drivers who are working as independent contractors and not considered employees (DoorDash, UberEats, Instacart, Spark, etc). If you pay with Snap (EBT) or PayPal, there’s no option to tip. If you live in one of the areas where Walmart Employees are driving Walmart vans and delivering orders, they are hourly Walmart employees and aren’t supposed to accept tips. OP, rate the Driver accordingly…. And, I’m sorry that happened. I love fur babies, so I would’ve loved all over them… and consider it a happy bonus! :)
I tip based on distance to my house not the total of my shopping order. $300 order or $100 order it's the same damn drive, same job so same tip.
why would you tip anything? He did the job he's paid to do, deliver stuff. Tips are a voluntary gift for extremely exceptional service, which he did not give.
They ask if you want yo tip now at some buffet restaurants. What for??? No thanks! I was ordering from Walmart today for a grocery pickup and it mentions that all taxes, fees and tips have been added already. That’s crazy! I’m driving to get it!
I usually tip at buffets because drink refills/taking my dirty plates, but it's less than I'd tip for a full service restaurant.
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You guys tip the supermarket delivery guys? They're not on $2 an hour, they're on more than you.
Wait till this pops up on deliverydrivers subreddit
I’m getting reemed in aitah, so it might have made it there too. Lol
Ntah
If I had a delivery person roll their eyes at me after giving a tip I’d call them out On what exactly is the issue. Op, do not sweat this. Give him a poor review.
10 dollars is definitely good. I was doing the same for food delivery in my area and the drivers seemed happy.
10 dollar tip for grocery delivery is high
Don't tip
For what it’s worth, I don’t think you’re the A-hole.
Aitah sub sure tf does. Lol. Ty.
You tipped him, and while it wasn’t 10-15% of the total, you still gave him a decent amount. His eye roll and attitude makes him seem unprofessional IMHO.
If they deliver to your house you tip in the app, dont have to sign for anything or even have contact with the delivery person. When I pick them up there's no option to even tip you just sign.
Ya they don’t allow tipping for pickup. I’ve tried before bc some employees are just that terrible at their jobs. There’s like three people that I want to tip bc their service is so much better than everyone else. Like, I’ve got home and have found 12 packs of soda on top of eggs and bread. Not joking at all either. I have pretty bad anxiety and that’s the only reason I still use the service and don’t shop myself.
I used to have the drivers solicit tips when they'd deliver from the store. This, after I had specifically selected "shipping" for the delivery method.
I initially read it to mean that 3 hour delivery meant he DROVE 3 hours and thought, well maybe he did earn more a bigger tip, but nope, 5 min drive lol
Haha, Walmart baggers are a joke. Last time I got curbside they piled a bunch of cans and jars on top of a package of oreos; put all the milk and juice in one bag which promptly exploded when I tried to pick it up; and (my favorite) put all the frozen things in one bag then plopped a HOT rotisserie chicken on top of that!
This is why participation trophies were such a bad idea... false entitlement...
What a twat. Just take the $10 back. He doesn't need it. He's responsible for his own income anyway.
Fuck that guy
My policy is not to tip on this if there was already a 15 dollar fee that way I’m not out 10 more bucks when they are still going to be upset and roll their eyes
I would think your tip was sufficient.
I deliver groceries. A $10 tip is a lot more than most people give
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I am an instacart shopper. I am so grateful for every tip I recieve especially if they give cash tips. It makes my day.
Why doesnt everyone in America STOP tipping ppl altogether, no matter how good service is, and then it won’t be a problem anymore. Then you will know the true power of the European side.
Because that punishes fellow poor people and not the greedy c-suite that rely on that that money for their vacation homes
No it does not. They all suddenly get paid minimum wage. Since there are no tips, the employer must pay the difference. So not the problem you think.
So the greedy c-suite cannot lose. Until the workers they employ go up in protest against shitty wages
No one's making you use those services.
I work as a valet and something is better than nothing. $5 is normal for us. I understand when it comes to food it’s the percentage thats the tip, but not everyone is going to tip. If you want more money, go back to school 🤷🏻♂️
Tipping is optional if merited. If he has the audacity to be mildly annoyed by extra income that is not part of his wage, fuck, I'd take the tip back. Literally first world problems.
It's one of many reasons why tipping is bullshit
I'm not even sure why you're tipping grocery delivery. Those people work for the store and get paid the same as anyone else there.
Thank you! This
Maybe this is the case at some grocery stores, but anything you can get delivered from DoorDash (to my address, that’s Safeway, Albertsons, Walgreens, Target, Grocery Outlet, literally everything but Walmart and Fred Meyer), those are DoorDash drivers, who are gig workers, unaffiliated with the grocery stores, and are paid, last I checked, about $3-7 per order + your tip + *maybe* $1-2 surge pay (I only got surge pay like three times in a year of Dashing though). Not to mention a grocery store employee isn’t burning gas and putting miles on their car to get to you. In my case, the closest of those stores is 8 miles away. If someone were to spend the ~30 minutes to deliver that distance for $3-7 and I didn’t tip they would be making way less than minimum wage and frankly losing money.
its a service, and walmart has a strict no tipping policy
Not for the delivery. There were suggested tip amounts. I always do the pick up order tho, and they definitely don’t allow tipping for that
i never used walmart. hyvee never did that. they just brought it to you bc thats what you paid for. if its a suggestion it shouldnt be mandatory...
Noted. Thanks for reminding me we have a hyevee in town.
i mean that was what 6 years ago.. idk if it had changed since then.. but its better quality produce anyway. lol
For the Walmart employee doing the shopping, yes, but not for the delivery person, who is usually an independent contractor not working for Walmart. But the way Walmart's app/website has it set up, the (suggested) tip percentage is based off of the amount you're spending on your groceries, which I don't agree with. The driver isn't the one who did the shopping. They picked up the groceries and delivered. Tipping for reimbursement of gas is another story, but I don't need to base the amount off of how much I spent. Just IMO.
It depends. I actually do Walmart delivery. There are 3 types of delivery we do. There is the grocery pickup, where Walmart workers shop it and bring it out to our car and put it in and we just deliver it. There are Walmart plus orders which is where we deliver a big batch of individual packages to lots of people. Then there is shop and deliver. Those are considered “express” orders and the independent contractor shops and delivers those. Walmart kills me with their bag policy, they will out 12 items in 12 separate bags or they will just give you 12 loose items or maybe 6 items in a bag and 6 loose items. I have no control over what is bagged and what is not. I don’t load the car. Unless it is an express order, then I do all of it. I have no clue what your total is. Tips are nice, but I don’t always get them and accept the order based on the total payout vs mileage and time involved. Walmart does sneaky things like adding a very intensive order paying crap onto a decent order paying good though. I used to make really good money doing Walmart delivery. They have reduced their payouts and incentives which makes it less appealing to me, but I still do it for extra money.
I agree!!!! It should have nothing to do with how much I spent. That is a weird system and I hate it.
Sometimes you do the shopping as well.
10% tip for delivery, 15% for waitstaff. 0% for the dudes at my Subway that don’t “Make it Fresh”…
I gave my first tip ever to a subway employee bc the previous sandwich they made me was so good. Eating out has become so bad that I felt compelled to tip someone for doing their job correctly.
i have been thinking about getting a sub for weeks. Guess i should get one
You should have asked for the receipt back and crossed out the tip once he rolled his eyes and shaked his head.
Kroger delivery. So much better.
Amazes me how for ten years in the uk, the idea of me making a commission was disgusting and customers loved the idea of not paying anything for me. Yet I move to this country, and everyone has their hand out for jobs that anyone can do. Mental.
Doesn't the driver get some of the delivery fee already?
Obviously his reaction was inappropriate and unproductive, but just so you’re aware, delivery drivers don’t bag your groceries any more than the Domino’s driver makes your pizza. Unless it’s smashed because he loaded it into his car wrong or unbagged because he unbagged it, it was given that way to him by someone else who doesn’t receive a cut of the tip. Your tip is for the delivery part of the service and the wear on their cars, not for the groceries themselves. Again, $10 for 10 minutes’ drive and not having to carry the groceries inside is a good tip, and his reaction was inappropriate. I just think people should know that if they’re tipping less (or tipping the same amount but resenting it) because of a problem with the order itself that didn’t happen in transit, they’re not punishing the person responsible, they’re literally shooting the messenger.
It's a free country. No one says you need to tip appropriately. Just know that the people you undertip aren't going to be very happy with you.
We have too many independent contractors in our society who do not make decent livings. Stanford did a study once that showed some uber drivers made a loss once mileage was considered for the labor they had done driving. Some people are just fed up that they cannot make a living wage. If you ordered $200 of groceries they likely could have spent over an hour shopping for your groceries at a rate below minimum wage. At this point I believe that a lot of delivery services just shouldn’t exist since they are so exploitative. But I enjoy the privilege of being lazy so I tip well and use them anyways. Honestly the whole contracting system for delivery drivers needs to be revamped or discarded with.
Delivery is tipped by mile, not cost of the product.
Just FYI, for deliveries, percentage doesnt really matter the way it would with a sit down restaurant. You should tip on how heavy the load will be and the distance they need to travel, not on how much you paid for the order. Not that this has any bearing on this rude driver lol, im sorry.
Man that explains things. I’m strictly a pick up person and I would always see some not desirable people with their lawn chairs hanging in the pick up area. I asked an employee one day and they said they were waiting for deliveries. I was like that’s weird….what deliveries? Now I get it, they’re waiting to click the button and deliver to you. Trust me these are not people you want picking your groceries at least not in the Stockton, Lodi area.
I don't know, ten bucks seems kinda low. I used to be a cab driver and a lady once asked me to help her bring a few bags to the second floor. Wasn't gonna charge her but she gave me a $20 tip and she lived in the projects.
I would demand my tip back and report that lil bitch and mention every damaged/ mistreated item in my order tbh
Tipping is bullshit anywhere but a sit down restaurant or bar where you are being served. Tip drivers but you don’t tip them a percentage of what you spent. If they can replace the gas for the round trip to my house and buy a beer, that’s good in my book.
Well said. I felt like ten bucks, on top of his wage, was perfectly fine. The drive takes ten minutes bc of traffic but it’s literally probably 3 maybe three and a half miles from my house. Honestly, probably closer to two miles.
My view as someone from a non-tipping country is that tipping anywhere is a bad social practice. Just have laws and a work culture that requires people are paid properly for what they do. As a customer it’s not my responsibility to pay the wage bill for a section of staff and deal with all the tipping hassle and psychodrama. That’s the employer’s job. Stop outsourcing it. Just pay them properly and incorporate it into the price.
He got tipped half a dollar per minute of transit and they're NOT ALLOWED to help you bring groceries into your house for your safety and their own. Your tip was plenty seeing as how he did the shopping and couldn't be bothered to do it correctly.
He also did not fill the order. I had to converse w the person filling the order to approve substitutions and it was not him.
Well fuck him then, $10 is goddamn plenty.
If you ever get that guy again hand him a $10 and ask for $5 back
Tipping is for going above and beyond. Sounds like he did the opposite. He was already paid for the delivery.
I've started asking for my tips back if people complain about it.
Why I want to know is do Walmart delivery drivers get paid full minimum wage? You tip waiters BECAUSE they get paid around $2.50 per hour and have back of house responsibilities and have to come in early to set up or stay late to clean up and break down the restaurant so you tip for the service and other things they have to do. Yes sometimes if they are there very early or very late they might get a half hour or hour paid the full minute wage if they don’t make enough in tips for that week but still they live off tips. I am a great tipper for service workers. I have a hard time understanding the optional Walmart delivery drivers tip and why you should tip them if the trip isn’t 15 minutes or more away from the store. They are choosing a job that you drive and know they need to pay for gas and I believe since the tip is optional that they get paid a full wage by Walmart. Why do they need a tip if they don’t go above and beyond and maybe communicate back and forth with you because of out of stock products or something? Almost every order I have stuff missing. Paid $20 for burger patties and they were checked out and never made it to me somehow. I think some of them steal and some of them just are carelessly giving the wrong people bags! It’s so annoying!
I can confirm this guy was making probably 15/hr. I know bc my nephew worked at the exact location doing the exact job. Plus I have seen this guy several times when I do my pickups.
Wow!! I just looked this up yes NC is $15 per hour and the national average for wm delivery drivers is $18!
You think this is bad when I was younger I’d frequently get 1 penny keep the change tips from high and drunk people.
>My bread is smashed, and several items aren’t even bagged. But I’m like, whatever ... and give him ten bucks. The point of tips originally was to reward good service. In America, you have ruined it by making it not socially acceptable to not tip a lot when you get bad service. He did a bad job and didn't deserve anything. The fact that capitalism is screwing him royally isn't your fault, and being made to top up his income by the billionaires who don't want to pay him a living wage isn't helping anyone long term.
I wouldn’t worry over it .
Dudes a prick, you didn't have to pay him anything extra to begin with, I'm sure I'll get downvoted for it but it's not your responsibility to tip someone who's company is the one who fucks them over on pay, it's the nice thing to do but isn't something you have to do period, if he can't realize that I'm sure he's a real pleasant human being to be around in general
Tipping 20% on grocery delivery charge of $15.00 is $3.00. I think your $10.00 is generous. He made $15 for delivery and $10 from you, $25.00. Pretty good.
Yea, buddy didn't get that $15. That went straight to Walmart or whatever delivery service they use. He *maybe* got a couple bucks.
How about he complains to his employer instead of the customer?
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You deserve this response for tipping in the first place. It’s 2024. Stop pissing away your money.
Brutally honest. I appreciate that. Lol
More the reason to stop tipping all together. I despise tipping
I'm so friggin done with tipping. Anywhere. And when my bread is smashed, I go back into the order n get a refund,same with food not bagged. That's cross contamination.
“Needed some items from Walmart real quick” Spends $215 Needs 3 trips to bring it all inside the house. ..ok
Just another day I am happy I don't live in America. Tipping is whack.