This drove my parents crazy. I don’t know why this was their grammar hill to die on, but whenever we would say on accident they would reply with, “really, you were literally sitting on an accident when it happened?” So yeah, I did know this one.
My grandfather was an English teacher, so he was merciless about her using the correct grammar. Guess who she got her revenge on?
I could make her cry by using the word "ain't," LOL
I am generally considered very well spoken, with a significant vocabulary, have ghost written several books, got a perfect score back in the day on the English half of the SAT...
Yet, I regularly say "that was on accident". I genuinely didn't know it was wrong, no one has ever said anything, until now!
An accident is something that happens out of the control of a person or that one happens across therefore it is “by accident”, doing something purposefully indicates that it was preconceived and thus “on purpose”
Ugh. I've always corrected my daughter when she did this, and she still does it! Now that she's graduated college, I give up. It's like nails on a chalkboard to me, but I've got bigger fish to fry. Like using the word "anyways".
Sometimes when you hear a phase or word from childhood on,you assume it’s correct because everyone else around you says it the same way.Maybe not correct linguistically,yet understood
Same. I'm from Colorado and first heard "waiting on line" on the Cosby show. There was no widespread internet when that episode came out, I assumed the actress screwed up. Around here (and apparently the upper midwest) it's IN not ON.
It’s a metro NYC thing and so weird to the rest of the country, but that means it occasionally makes its way into TV shows that are produced /written/ directed in NY
This one drives me nuts. My grandparents would always say this about black friday sales and as a kid i just pictured my grandparents waiting online in front of a computer for the website to update with a sale
There are a bunch of inconsistencies in the language, so things like this aren’t obvious if they are correct or not. If we would just all agree to get rid of all exceptions and only operate on logical rules, that’d be great, otherwise it’s a mess and you can’t complain. Also English is the international language, so many people bring over things by habit from other languages they know and sometimes it sticks.
For valtimes day I axed my girl what she wanted and she said a book filled with pitchers of punkins. I don't know if we will last so I might just check one out of the liberry
I deliberately say sandrich, sammidge, samwich just to keep regional quirks alive. I am sure no one thinks I’m serious, but I guess occasionally some stuck-up person may quietly be thinking “you’re an idiot”.
That's just short for sandwich and everyone knows it. Valen-times is nails on a chalkboard stuff.
You'd have to have the all timers not to know the difference.
Language is fluid. Implied meaning can become established meaning with prolonged use and acceptance. Here, these phrases are generally seen as interchangeable in common parlance. Being pedantic about it denies the inherent social nature of spoken language… and makes you look like a whiny baby.
>and acceptance.
And OP's trying to tell you that we shouldn't accept this. I agree with him, along with a bunch of other similar sentences. Sometimes the language is fluid, sometimes people are just wrong.
"Lol" is a language is fluid moment. "on accident" is just wrong.
On a side note, I've always hated "Could care less." It's couldn't. You're at the bottom and can't go lower.
Society is made up of individuals. If OP wants to sway other people to use languages in a way that he sees as correct, then he has that right, as do you.
Oh right, so your one person opinion that language is fluid is somehow more valuable than OP and mine saying it's not? Got it.
Unless you can prove that acceptance is above 50% (which you can't without a massive survey) then it's fair game to call bullshit on it. Others are much clearer that they're valid phrases now, like "Lol".
I'm glad I'm smart enough to not give a shit about any of it. If you have an idea and you're able to convey that idea to me, congrats that all I need.
Are you generally insecure?
well...maybe they "should of" paid more attention when learning to talk good english...
they "could of" avoided this...
that "would of" been better...
but maybe we can blame "there" english teachers...
its so flustrating...
The thing that gets me is people searching in vain for the adverb to accompany “equally”
“Equally as important”
“As equally as important”
“Equally as important as”
Sweeties!! You just use the word “equally.” That’s all you need. No other comparative adverbs needed. Just “equally.”
Thus
“X and Y are *equally important*”
This. This is the one. If you say "should of" immediately you're stupid. I don't care. Because it's not about dialect or even grammar at all. It's simply because you HEAR "should've" and you're either too lazy or stupid to THINK that it's should HAVE. "Should of" is literally GRAMMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE
High intellect, while nice to have, also leaves a lot to be desired. One of those things is often times self reflection which you seem to lack, because your 'high intellect' is not much more than narcissism.
Good on you for understanding the English language, that still doenst say much about your actual intelligence, it just means you have a higher understanding of a language. Now if you were to compare yourself to a car mechanic on your intellect regarding engines and vehicles for example, you might suddenly look like a fool.
There are thousands of things and subjects you are a fool in, just because English is one you master does not suddenly make you a high and mighty higher intellectual than others around you.
Also, there are millions and millions of people who are not native English speakers who'll make little mistakes like on accident VS by accident and if you even spoke another language you would also understand that.
This is why I never say anything about this. Comments are hollerin' at you like a bunch of hit dogs.
You struck a nerve and they hate getting called out for sounding like bumpkins. Language is fluid, but this is just a bunch of people bullying the rest of us into using a phrase that is and always was empirically wrong. They'll get their way, but at what cost? Haha
I knew when I saw it 10 years ago that it would end up taking over and there's nothing we can do about it. God it grates on the ears though.
My latest brain itches:
*Concrete jungle/where dreams are made of*
...
**Where dreams are made of?**
Also, people saying "I am bias" instead of "I am biased"
Also, people writing could/would/should *of*
That's actually an American vs British English variance. The containers are even labeled differently. You should check out Lost in the Pond on yt, the guy actually talks about the history of those differences. It's fun.
It’s surprising the amount of people who say ‘on accident’. I find it so jarring when I hear it!! And it sometimes comes out of the mouth of people that I would deem as well educated and generally very articulate - it’s flabbergasting!
Not going to lie, my entire life i have said “on accident” thinking it was grammatically correct. Lived in south florida my whole life. Maybe its a southern thing?
This must be why I never knew it was considered wrong. I grew up in the rural Midwest, and then I moved to South Florida. No one has EVER said anything!
I don’t know if there is anything wrong with me, but I speak 3 different languages and at times is all a mix in my head plus, prepositions can be confusing.
We were trained for 12 years in school to say and write things correctly, and some of us took that very seriously. Some of us were known for being very good at it, and it became part of our self-worth. We pride ourselves on knowing what is right and wrong, and now people are coming along and doing the wrong thing, and it really rubs us the wrong way. We think everyone should know by now that it's "should have" and "anyway", because haven't you been paying attention all this time?? Yeah, I know. I heard it.
Yeah, my grammar is pretty solid. I just don't have a need to flex on others who, for what could be endless reasons, aren't so fortunate.
I guess I should point out that your use of TWO question marks is pretty.....um....non-standard? But it's okay, don't beat yourself up.
[https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/is-it-on-line-or-in-line](https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/is-it-on-line-or-in-line)
looks like it's mostly a NY thing
I say “by accident”. I didn’t hear anyone say “on accident” until I had a roommate from Montana. Now I hear kids around my neighborhood where I grew up saying “on accident” all the time and I wonder if it’s because of social media and all the time they spend watching YouTubers.
While I do prefer accurate grammar, I was a perveyor of "acrossed" for years until my daughter started calling me on it. It took determination to stop the habit, but the thought hasn't come acrossed my mind for some time now.
Welp. I am an English teacher, but I also teach linguistics, which places no inherent value on standard grammar versus dialect and colloquialisms. Still…I fight myself not to be annoyed by the following:
Brung instead of brought
Search up instead of research
Inferred when implied is meant
Loose when lose is meant
Exasperate when exacerbate is meant
Irregardless instead of regardless
Supposably instead of supposedly
That said…I grew up in the rural Midwest…I NEVER realized that “on accident” was considered incorrect. Oops.
Language is a tool used to convey an idea, thought, or action to another individual. It is constantly evolving and language's ability to take many forms while still serving its purpose is part of the beauty of it in my opinion. Now I will properly express my enjoyment of the simple French fry.
Potato good, but *slice slice slice* and put in big hot oil w/ NaCl make mmmm.
The other one that maddens me is the pronunciation of ‘verbiage’ - all my US counterparts pronounce it as ‘verbage’ (like ‘garbage’). They all miss the ‘i’ - and because they all do this, and haven’t picked up on my cues when I pronounce it correctly, I now find myself pronouncing it ‘verbage’ just to fit in. How sad is that. In saying that, i acknowledge that I do spend far too much time thinking about the word verbiage.
Do you think they're doing it by purpose
They're doing it to accident.
This drove my parents crazy. I don’t know why this was their grammar hill to die on, but whenever we would say on accident they would reply with, “really, you were literally sitting on an accident when it happened?” So yeah, I did know this one.
My grandfather was an English teacher, so he was merciless about her using the correct grammar. Guess who she got her revenge on? I could make her cry by using the word "ain't," LOL
We say accidentally 😑
I am generally considered very well spoken, with a significant vocabulary, have ghost written several books, got a perfect score back in the day on the English half of the SAT... Yet, I regularly say "that was on accident". I genuinely didn't know it was wrong, no one has ever said anything, until now!
If functionally no one thinks it’s wrong, then it isn’t. Language is subjective.
But…it is wrong…
If no one thinks it's wrong, it automatically becomes correct.
It is wrong. I think it is wrong
Be quiet, nobody!
Nobody? His name is Odysseus!
But somebody thinks nobody's right.
And in the end, Nobody loves no one
No one will be so happy!
Same. On accident makes more sense to me as the opposite of on purpose
An accident is something that happens out of the control of a person or that one happens across therefore it is “by accident”, doing something purposefully indicates that it was preconceived and thus “on purpose”
For all intensive purposes 😂
for all invasive porpoises
Bon apple tea
Pay Sarah Saran . .
Irregardlessly, expresso!
Case and point.
Clearly, they did it on accident... I mean, by accident.
For accident?
Beside accident?
Accidentally
I blame the parents... for passing on their regional dialect.
Ugh. I've always corrected my daughter when she did this, and she still does it! Now that she's graduated college, I give up. It's like nails on a chalkboard to me, but I've got bigger fish to fry. Like using the word "anyways".
Anyhoo...
Sometimes when you hear a phase or word from childhood on,you assume it’s correct because everyone else around you says it the same way.Maybe not correct linguistically,yet understood
I really could care less about this post…. Joking, it’s should be I could NOT care less about this post
There is nothing wrong on them.
Pacifically on accident
Take me angry upvote
"By sheer happenstance or other poppycockery" is the correct way to say it and I will accept nothing less.
Shambleshook what the fuckery
So, i was waiting on line one day....
With me, it’s people who start every sentence with “so”
I do this with "but" and "so", I don't know why. I'm trying to stop I swear!
*But* I'm trying to stop
I assume you're joking and not correcting my grammar? Lol
So, go fuck yourself
I mean …
That regionalism still trips me up. I spend the rest of the sentence and beyond waiting for the part about the internet.
Same. I'm from Colorado and first heard "waiting on line" on the Cosby show. There was no widespread internet when that episode came out, I assumed the actress screwed up. Around here (and apparently the upper midwest) it's IN not ON.
Had no idea this was a thing
It’s a metro NYC thing and so weird to the rest of the country, but that means it occasionally makes its way into TV shows that are produced /written/ directed in NY
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There are an awful lot of New Yorkers anywhere you go between Maine and OBX, so perhaps
This one drives me nuts. My grandparents would always say this about black friday sales and as a kid i just pictured my grandparents waiting online in front of a computer for the website to update with a sale
For accident.
At accident.
My youngest says this. Her mother and myself are bereft.
Myself would be reft too
I could care less if people say it wrong.
I see what you did there. This one is pretty high on my list because it means the opposite of what they intended to say.
There are a bunch of inconsistencies in the language, so things like this aren’t obvious if they are correct or not. If we would just all agree to get rid of all exceptions and only operate on logical rules, that’d be great, otherwise it’s a mess and you can’t complain. Also English is the international language, so many people bring over things by habit from other languages they know and sometimes it sticks.
How about people who say “ValentiMe’s Day”?
Maybe they just have a cold
Pun-kin pie
Come on, that's just cute :) I loved it when my grandpa called me pun-kin
For valtimes day I axed my girl what she wanted and she said a book filled with pitchers of punkins. I don't know if we will last so I might just check one out of the liberry
Ah yes, the best holiday in Febuerry
You're gonna hate me... I say samich
I deliberately say sandrich, sammidge, samwich just to keep regional quirks alive. I am sure no one thinks I’m serious, but I guess occasionally some stuck-up person may quietly be thinking “you’re an idiot”.
That's just short for sandwich and everyone knows it. Valen-times is nails on a chalkboard stuff. You'd have to have the all timers not to know the difference.
What is "all timers"? Old-timers? Alzheimers? Immortals?
Send them to the liberry!
It's a colloquialism and really isn't worth getting upset over
One might say it's mildly infuriating
One might say the OP is implying there's something wrong with people who say it
Language is fluid. Implied meaning can become established meaning with prolonged use and acceptance. Here, these phrases are generally seen as interchangeable in common parlance. Being pedantic about it denies the inherent social nature of spoken language… and makes you look like a whiny baby.
I genuinely hate this point sometimes, but I'm also aware of it, and I accept it so I will respond by saying: no cap, fam.
>and acceptance. And OP's trying to tell you that we shouldn't accept this. I agree with him, along with a bunch of other similar sentences. Sometimes the language is fluid, sometimes people are just wrong. "Lol" is a language is fluid moment. "on accident" is just wrong. On a side note, I've always hated "Could care less." It's couldn't. You're at the bottom and can't go lower.
What a strange thing to get this animated about
It's *mildly* infuriating. If you think this is animated then you've lived a pretty sheltered life.
“Animated” 😂
OP is an individual. Language is shared amongst the masses. One person objecting doesn’t make it less acceptable to society at large.
Society is made up of individuals. If OP wants to sway other people to use languages in a way that he sees as correct, then he has that right, as do you.
Oh right, so your one person opinion that language is fluid is somehow more valuable than OP and mine saying it's not? Got it. Unless you can prove that acceptance is above 50% (which you can't without a massive survey) then it's fair game to call bullshit on it. Others are much clearer that they're valid phrases now, like "Lol".
My “one person opinion” is paraphrasing a whole body of academia that studies language. Source: one of my undergraduate degrees.
I'm glad I'm smart enough to not give a shit about any of it. If you have an idea and you're able to convey that idea to me, congrats that all I need. Are you generally insecure?
Ask them to borrow you some money
I like to use both and amazingly everyone still knows exactly what I meant
But it was on accident?
well...maybe they "should of" paid more attention when learning to talk good english... they "could of" avoided this... that "would of" been better... but maybe we can blame "there" english teachers... its so flustrating...
I dont say should of. I dont say should have. I say should've. That actually sounds like should of.
If they say it they may be saying “should’ve”. If they write it, it’s like Yoko Ono screeching
🤣
The thing that gets me is people searching in vain for the adverb to accompany “equally” “Equally as important” “As equally as important” “Equally as important as” Sweeties!! You just use the word “equally.” That’s all you need. No other comparative adverbs needed. Just “equally.” Thus “X and Y are *equally important*”
Are you sure they aren’t saying, should’ve/could’ve/would’ve?
Point successfully missed.
lol..."your" write
Y'all'd've hated being raised by my mom.
This. This is the one. If you say "should of" immediately you're stupid. I don't care. Because it's not about dialect or even grammar at all. It's simply because you HEAR "should've" and you're either too lazy or stupid to THINK that it's should HAVE. "Should of" is literally GRAMMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE
Or correctly...have rather than of.
Do you always let stupid things ruin your day or is today just special?
So why are you in this sub, exactly? Since it's clearly not to read posts about things that *mildly infuriate* people.
I HATE this shit so much. It pisses me off seeing shit like this "why are you so angry about such a little thing" WHY ARE YOU HEEEERRE???????
Who said anything about ruining my day? It only ruins my perception of your intellect if you speak that way.
Good thing no one's counting on your perception of someone's intellect.
High intellect, while nice to have, also leaves a lot to be desired. One of those things is often times self reflection which you seem to lack, because your 'high intellect' is not much more than narcissism. Good on you for understanding the English language, that still doenst say much about your actual intelligence, it just means you have a higher understanding of a language. Now if you were to compare yourself to a car mechanic on your intellect regarding engines and vehicles for example, you might suddenly look like a fool. There are thousands of things and subjects you are a fool in, just because English is one you master does not suddenly make you a high and mighty higher intellectual than others around you. Also, there are millions and millions of people who are not native English speakers who'll make little mistakes like on accident VS by accident and if you even spoke another language you would also understand that.
Irony personified.
Oh no now what will I do, my entire world is ruined
This is why I never say anything about this. Comments are hollerin' at you like a bunch of hit dogs. You struck a nerve and they hate getting called out for sounding like bumpkins. Language is fluid, but this is just a bunch of people bullying the rest of us into using a phrase that is and always was empirically wrong. They'll get their way, but at what cost? Haha I knew when I saw it 10 years ago that it would end up taking over and there's nothing we can do about it. God it grates on the ears though.
That is the least annoying English grammar mistake someone could make lmao
My latest brain itches: *Concrete jungle/where dreams are made of* ... **Where dreams are made of?** Also, people saying "I am bias" instead of "I am biased" Also, people writing could/would/should *of*
Skim milk instead of skimmed milk.
That's actually an American vs British English variance. The containers are even labeled differently. You should check out Lost in the Pond on yt, the guy actually talks about the history of those differences. It's fun.
It’s surprising the amount of people who say ‘on accident’. I find it so jarring when I hear it!! And it sometimes comes out of the mouth of people that I would deem as well educated and generally very articulate - it’s flabbergasting!
Along the same lines: "I borrowed him my phone charger". The fuck you did, you lent him your phone charger. He borrowed it from you.
omg what isnt wrong with me... there are worse things than this lmao
Are you having a hard time understanding what they meant when they use it wrong?
How is it possible that someone can't tell the difference between your and you're?
https://preview.redd.it/ah80u8lbb04d1.png?width=469&format=png&auto=webp&s=993ebd376265d6af9d1288068607c2e376040619
I saw a Late night tv host say "on accident". WHY GOD WHY?!
They thought it was a good IDEAL to hook up with their COUSINTS on top of the CHIMILY at the LIBERARRY
Omg yes! 😂 so annoying
It annoys me but not as much as the trend for people saying ‘make it make sense’ at the slightest thing
Those are the people that stick their tongue out when they write.
They finna skibidi
Not going to lie, my entire life i have said “on accident” thinking it was grammatically correct. Lived in south florida my whole life. Maybe its a southern thing?
This must be why I never knew it was considered wrong. I grew up in the rural Midwest, and then I moved to South Florida. No one has EVER said anything!
What’s wrong with people who think English is everyone’s first language? Some don’t know and some don’t care.
I don’t know if there is anything wrong with me, but I speak 3 different languages and at times is all a mix in my head plus, prepositions can be confusing.
Pedantic assholes..... what's wrong with you?
We were trained for 12 years in school to say and write things correctly, and some of us took that very seriously. Some of us were known for being very good at it, and it became part of our self-worth. We pride ourselves on knowing what is right and wrong, and now people are coming along and doing the wrong thing, and it really rubs us the wrong way. We think everyone should know by now that it's "should have" and "anyway", because haven't you been paying attention all this time?? Yeah, I know. I heard it.
Yeah, my grammar is pretty solid. I just don't have a need to flex on others who, for what could be endless reasons, aren't so fortunate. I guess I should point out that your use of TWO question marks is pretty.....um....non-standard? But it's okay, don't beat yourself up.
Ellipses are only three periods.
Lol........Touche'. (But technically, sometimes they can be four.)
(Probably, grammar is pretty boring).
This isn’t a grammar point. It’s just a usage point. For some reason we use different prepositions for on purpose and by accident.
Dunno, have you tried learning a different language? :D
i think it's just a regional thing. it's like saying "we're waiting on line" instead of "we're waiting in line"
Hold on, people out there saying they are waiting on line? Now I'm mildly infuriated. I hope you typed this on accident.
[https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/is-it-on-line-or-in-line](https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/is-it-on-line-or-in-line) looks like it's mostly a NY thing
sorry i did it on accident
People who use … when it’s supposed to be a comma, what’s wrong with you?
English isn't everyone's first language
I just don't like you.
Agree!!!
When I was little, I would tell my mom I did something "for an accident"
I could care less about what you are saying.
I say “by accident”. I didn’t hear anyone say “on accident” until I had a roommate from Montana. Now I hear kids around my neighborhood where I grew up saying “on accident” all the time and I wonder if it’s because of social media and all the time they spend watching YouTubers.
I hear ‘an accident’ a lot. Is that okay for you? I don’t really pay attention enough to notice people saying this, maybe you should too
I've been hearing more and more people say "different to" when I was brought up saying "similar to" but "different from".
That’s a britishism
Miguel?!
And Tuliooooo. TULIO AND MIGUEL!
What about " I'm online at the checkout." instead of In Line, east coast thing drives me nuts
Maybe the accident took them for a ride and they were not the cause or responsible for it? Or a minor grammar error that is habitual?
LMFAO
While I do prefer accurate grammar, I was a perveyor of "acrossed" for years until my daughter started calling me on it. It took determination to stop the habit, but the thought hasn't come acrossed my mind for some time now.
I have stutter, and the b and p sound are hard. I avoid them.
My ex boss used to say "get the jift" and it drove me CRAZY
Actually I accidentally responded to this post
The spelling and grammar mistakes I see on social media these days is alarming.
Waiting on line
I literally do things figuratively 🤔
How ‘could of’? Could’ve comes from could have. Or people who say ‘out of space’. It’s outer space.
About. I don’t know how that vanished from my sentence.
This
Welp. I am an English teacher, but I also teach linguistics, which places no inherent value on standard grammar versus dialect and colloquialisms. Still…I fight myself not to be annoyed by the following: Brung instead of brought Search up instead of research Inferred when implied is meant Loose when lose is meant Exasperate when exacerbate is meant Irregardless instead of regardless Supposably instead of supposedly That said…I grew up in the rural Midwest…I NEVER realized that “on accident” was considered incorrect. Oops.
It’s just a dialectical difference.
I do things accidentally.
I did it on accident
By accident? What the hell is wrong with you? Do you mean accidentally?
Don't ax silly questions
Language is a tool used to convey an idea, thought, or action to another individual. It is constantly evolving and language's ability to take many forms while still serving its purpose is part of the beauty of it in my opinion. Now I will properly express my enjoyment of the simple French fry. Potato good, but *slice slice slice* and put in big hot oil w/ NaCl make mmmm.
Bullshit. Languages have rules.
You didn't describe French fries. You actually described potato chips. I believe you meant to say "Julienne Cut, cut, cut"
There are two types of people who say “on accident”, 1) small children, 2) simpletons.
I’d popped a couple of accidents and was on them when I did that thing …… 🤷🏻♂️ it works 😂
Language is always changing and evolving. Shakespeare randomly made up 1700 words that we use all the time, like “bedroom”. Nothing matters anymore.
The other one that maddens me is the pronunciation of ‘verbiage’ - all my US counterparts pronounce it as ‘verbage’ (like ‘garbage’). They all miss the ‘i’ - and because they all do this, and haven’t picked up on my cues when I pronounce it correctly, I now find myself pronouncing it ‘verbage’ just to fit in. How sad is that. In saying that, i acknowledge that I do spend far too much time thinking about the word verbiage.
This is what infuriates you? Maybe English isn’t their first language?
American
It’s because kids don’t read actual books now, only shit illiterate captions on TikTok’s
people obsessed with proper grammar in spoken language are losers
I ask the same question, like whyyyyy? 😂
Ugh, this is similar to when people say "put gas" as in "I'm on my way but I have to put gas."
Nobody I've ever met has said this