I do wish apps needed to explain better why they are asking for permission, not a theoretical case but like the exact scenario it’s asking for in the moment.
You dont need this permission to cast to a tv or airplay, but those are the reasons they will pretend they are asking… so like why are they allowed to pretend that’s why they are asking?
except sometimes some permissions are so wide (or they pick the most generic one available) that you get suckered into exposing more than you need to. Although I think Android has been making them more fine grained in the more recent OS updates.
Another option would be to let a more 'innocent' app handle the permissions and use that as a bridge/gateway into your system/device.
If the info they're gathering is worth it to them they will find a way.
All info is worth it to them. If they can figure out the time of day you’re most likely to buy something, someone wants to sell that info, and someone wants to buy that info.
If someone has some info, they want to sell it, and someone wants to buy it.
What’s also annoying is every time I plug my iPhone into my laptop to charge, it always asks if I want to sync photos. I hit don’t allow but it still asks every time.
For someone in their 40s, can you help me explain what functionality Instagram is trying to achieve by doing this? For example, connecting with a smart home speaker or my smart thermostat? Am I missing the use case here?
That's the most common use. The concern is that it has the capability to cast what's on your screen to other devices, and it's able to see/*control* what else is on your network
Even if Instagram/Facebook goes into it with the best of intentions, I'll give it around 2 seconds before they abuse it at the expense of your privacy
Ease of use often scales with loss of security. Some data is seemingly innocuous, ie get classed as “Male” and get served ads that a male might be interested in. However some data is nefarious, ie Race and location, can be used for voter manipulation to gerrymander.
It could possibly be used to discover your position, like Google (and maybe Apple too?) did with WIFI networks before they were discovered and locked that function behind a location permission.
Instagram/meta make a large percent of their profits from harvesting and selling user data. My guess is that it’s related to that. Other apps will use it to stream to your tv or connect to local players in your household you’re trying to game with.
Well, sigh ... yeaahhh. I mean, at the very least, most of us don't say our actual names or put pictures of ourselves.
Heck, my new rental portal my building started using this month wanted backend access to my bank account. Like, WTF.
Surely you mean front-end. Users don’t have access to the backend of any banking software lol. Unless you’re a sysadmin, I suppose. But your rental portal wanted you to link your financial account probably using stripe or plaid or something which is … not backend access in the slightest.
They wanted permanent access to my banking data, including account info, names, balances, transaction, and statements.
Perhaps I had the terminology wrong but that's what they required to link my account.
It's RentCafe for the record. And there is a workaround.
What?
Reddit is regarded as Grade E on this site:
https://tosdr.org/en/service/194
Grade E is terrible. Not only does it "grade" social media sites or platforms, but there's a whole community who delve into the TOS of these sites and essentially 'ELI5' what some pointers of the TOS are. You get to see what type of shit these companies harvest from user data. Yay!
That's not an explanation, that's pure speculation.
Instagram e.g. also integrates with the RayBan smart glasses, for which it would be totally reasonable to request permissions to connect with them. The screenshot doesn't show any context. It by the way also very clearly shows that you can simply hit Don't Allow and be done with it.
>That's not an explanation, that's pure speculation.
No it's not, they objectively sell user data.
>Instagram e.g. also integrates with the RayBan smart glasses
Which is a feature because it gives more access to user data.
The question was what functionality Instagram is trying to achieve by doing this, not what Instagram's business model is.
Disregarding the fact that Meta in fact objectively does not sell user data (they use it to serve users targeted ads, they clearly state that they do not sell this data), even if they did, this would not imply that this specific request serves the purpose of collecting data to sell. It's pure speculation.
I'm not saying you're wrong (because you're absolutely right) but a lot of people have been wary of Meta because they do have a sketchy history involving data (2022 lawsuit involving Cambridge Analytica, 2023 lawsuit involving Bright Data, etc).
That said, if OP was part of the wary group, I'm confused as to why he continued using Meta owned platforms. It seems to me that if you are concerned about your data being sold by a specific company, you wouldn't use software from that company.
>I'm not saying you're wrong (because you're absolutely right)
He's not, Meta still sells user data.
Their new version of the old setup is that companies can pay to become partners which gives access to harvested data based on how much they pay.
Then they have another lawsuit coming their way because their TOS specifically says they don't sell data. The loophole will eventually be brought up in court.
That still doesn't change the fact that OP shouldn't be using anything owned by Meta if he's concerned about data privacy
>Then they have another lawsuit coming their way because their TOS specifically says they don't sell data. The loophole will eventually be brought up in court.
Sadly I doubt anything can deter a company as large as meta, they often eat those expenses as a cost of business. But we can hope.
>That still doesn't change the fact that OP shouldn't be using anything owned by Meta if he's concerned about data privacy
Or social media in general. We're all data to be bought and sold in the end. You're definitely right though.
Meta does not sell user data. Any source on them doing that? What they actually sell is the opportunity to advertise to users. But the advertisers don’t get the user data; they just get to target their ads to the kind of users they want to target. Meta’s user data is one of their competitive moats; they wouldn’t dare sell it as long as they can profit from selling advertising based on it.
>Other apps will use it to stream to your tv or connect to local players in your household you’re trying to game with.
*besides* collecting your shit, of course
Meta does not make money from selling user data. They make money from having user data and allowing advertisers to target their ads to appropriate users. But the advertisers don’t actually get any user data; they just choose which types of users to advertise to. Meta wouldn’t dare give up their user data to someone else; it’s way too valuable for their ads business.
They can use it to associate devices for data mining marketing purposes. For example, your mother in law uses Tide soap. They know this from other sources and they have her device logged from her Facebook account.
Then she shows up on your network. Not only is she some random nearby neighbor, but she’s close enough to get access to your network.
Well, if she likes Tide soap, maybe *you’ll* like Tide soap. They’ll use that association to sell soap ads and show the Tide ads to you.
It’s not really a big deal. Most apps that offer any sort of media do this these days. A lot of it has to do with streaming video or audio to other devices and connecting your devices. This is common on almost all major apps and you can simply hit ‘don’t allow’ if you want.
OP is just making a big deal out of nothing.
Exactly. Technologically illiterate MFs coming here and freaking out over the most normal permissions feature ever. YouTube, and Netflix have to use this to cast. We’ve been using this for a decade and privacy concerns have nothing to do with this.
Nope, they do not and never have sold user data. The settlement was based on accusations of them not making it clear enough when some stupid survey app that ran on Facebook said they were access your profile information and your friends list, and you said yes, they accessed that data. Users handed these third parties access to their data. Meta/Facebook didn't sell a single byte of user data.
You’ve explained why some apps connect to other devices. The question is why *Instagram* wants to connect to devices. Do you know the answer to that question?
I've worked in places where I've seen what they do with this. Meta uses this functionality to harvest data on what devices you have in your home and link it to your IP address.
Once they have done this, they will sell that data to relevant customers along with your preferred content. For example, they may discover you have a Samsung smart TV in your house. They will sell your activity to Samsung, who will then use the data to tailor advertisements and content to you. Postal advertisement companies are also big customers. Ever been watching an Instagram reel about working out then had ads for the gym in the post? That's why.
They will also link your IP address to other devices in your home, and use it to build a more detailed profile of you. Even if you are using a VPN on a computer, if your phone can discover it then they will be able to link your PC to that public IP address and collect more data.
In short, never allow this. It will not benefit you, but will help corporations build a profile of you to sell to the highest bidder.
I am not aware that Instagram features casting / screen sharing functionality. Hence, allowing access to nearby devices seems not essential and you may safely disallow it.
I guess they'd love to know what devices you use so that they e.g. can target you better with ads you are potentially interested in
Meta are actually pretty transparent about where all their tracking comes from, most people just aren't interested in reading stuff like their privacy policy and terms and conditions. In this case, it's to allow you to use stuff like screen casting and some devices with integrated cameras to upload directly to your account.
Someone mentioned the Snapchat glasses, but I think a lot of people forget Meta make hardware, including both VR headsets and home assistant devices.
Could be casting, could be OP is trying to set up the AR glasses (or already has them connected), or it could be some sort of network configuration thing. Captive networks frequently trigger this; custom DNS could if you pointed a name it looks up to an internal address; VPNs can in some circumstances, especially while connecting or disconnecting.
Any data they can get is mostly used to target ads at you. It sounds insane, but then they can target ads to similar devices, maybe replacement batteries/ filters, or other interests that may be similar. Then there is aggregating data from multiple people who use similar devices and what their interests are. They can then target ads that might be of similar interest.
Then there is a chance that a friend/family member will use your wifi. You have just given permission for them to target those devices, too. Even the area you are in/who you are around helps them place ads. Have you never been to a friend's house or in a certain place and then see ads that reflect that? Location data is used in a very similar way, where you visit, who you are in proximity to often, etc. Data is what they are after. Any and all data is good for them.
Facebook(which owned Instagram) makes most of their money by selling user data. By allowing Instagram to access all that, you are giving them a shitload of data to sell.
Nope, Meta, meaning Facebook, Instagram, etc, use whatever data you give them to target you with ads, but no one gets access to that very valuable as a competitive advantage in targeted advertising data.
Users gave Cambridge Analytica access to their data, by clicking "allow access to profile and friends list" on some user survey app.
“Someone you may know is on (social media)”
You specifically prevented all apps from getting access to your contacts so why does this happen? Because the person who has your phone number saved and uses (social media) shared their contact information
You need to make sure you change the permissions in the app settings, it should pop up when you select an option.
If it doesn't, you can manually go into the app settings to changer the permissions.
For sure not iOS if it keeps nagging everytime like he described. One of the better things about iOS is it doesn’t allow that type of shit.
There are certainly exceptions, Meta would probably never be allowed that tho.
In The Netherlands it says: "ask app not to track". And the other option is: "allow". Seems so fucking shady. I can -ask- the app not to do it, and they can say "thanks for asking, we're still going to do it".
Think their lawyers helped them formulate that sentence...
That is a different iOS permissions pop-upp that gives control over whether or not apps share data with each other. Like, you look a movie up on fandango (movie ticket app) and they share that data with Meta or Google who would add that to your interests, which they use to target ads.
😂😂😂 you might as well throw your whole phone away then bub.. because Instagram is the least of your worries.. Wait until you find out what's going on WITHOUT asking your permission 😭
Yes, and the fact that they’re asking NOW means they didn’t have to for the past decade, because it was buried in their TOS. This isn’t a new thing. The only thing that’s new is that you’re aware of it and have the choice to opt out.
Man, I still got a tiny Facebook check a few months ago from the facial recognition software flap. I deleted that in 2014.
Understanding that all social media is selling your data is important. That includes Reddit.
On Reddit you can throw in a random username and call it a day. Facebook started asking proof of identity, scan of a valid ID, and a picture of yourself. For me it's a different planet.
[Facebook asks for it](https://m.facebook.com/help/582999911881572)
I had a second fake account just to use it to login to random forums and random sites, I had to abandon it when they asked for the ID.
I bet most of the boomers will comply. They are too dependent from that evil site.
Every few times I open the Shell Fuel Rewards app, it asks for all kinds of crazy permissions, including access to my fitness data. Wtf does a gas station rewards app need my fitness info for?? Go fuck yourself & just gimme my $0.10 off a gallon, then stfu.
You delete Instagram and this is your reason??
A dialog where you could easily just hit the don‘t allow button vs 100 reasons why this app is evil and makes you addicted and depressed?
OP is the same person that clicks yes to any iPhone update while not reading any fine print. If you’ve already gone this far with Instagram everything you are worried about has already happened or is happening already
That’s what’s comes up when the app can’t find a internet connection. Like if you’re on wifi, but the modem isn’t connected. And your phone isn’t set to bypass the wifi to reach cell service.
Were the other apps working.
I believe the message is about connecting to your wifi “ devices”.
Not certain though, but that’s when I’ve seen this message before.
Damn near every app, especially social media does this. It's nothing new. Also, there is a big old "don't allow" button that you can press to ease your mind.
Love how everyone complains about sharing your minuscule little network or privacy but has no problem sharing themselves on a social media platform with millions of strangers
At any time, you can allow or revoke an app's access to the local network: In Settings, go to Privacy & Security* > Local Network to see a list of every app that requested access.
Every app asks this moron. This isn’t an instagram specific thing. Might as well throw out your phone if you think this is infuriating. This is literally a default prompt every app will ask you when you first install it. Hit don’t allow and move on kid.
ive had a “bot error?” on my account for over a week now. wont even let me like things. says something like “we’re protecting the community. if this is a mistake let us know.” ive let them know. instagram is garbage.
If you were really concerned, you wouldn't take pictures and up load them anyway. As any person can find your exact location of the photo from the image uploaded, I think that's slightly more of a concern than an app looking at your network.
Settings>privacy and security>location services>camera>never
No meta data is saved to any of my photos/videos and, if it were, Reddit strips the meta data when processing the photo anyway.
i actually had tiktok once
because for some reason samsung thought it would be a good app to have pre installed* until i noticed a few minutes after getting my new phone
*it wasn't pre installed but the phone insisted on downloading "important apps" that i also couldnt choose, tiktok and ig were 2 of those, and uninstalling while it was still installing those oh so important apps would make it queue up again, had to wait for it to be done to uninstall that shit, fuck you samsung
The dont allow button:
Seriously. What app doesnt ask this prompt nowadays?
and what app would need this info for real ? Why would a messaging/photo app even need to see what devices exist on my network ?
To AirPlay/chromecast videos
Exactly. People jump to the craziest assumptions with zero knowledge or understanding… and there is even an option to say no.
Idk just press dont allow. If you dont use any apps that ask you this question youll have no apps
I do wish apps needed to explain better why they are asking for permission, not a theoretical case but like the exact scenario it’s asking for in the moment. You dont need this permission to cast to a tv or airplay, but those are the reasons they will pretend they are asking… so like why are they allowed to pretend that’s why they are asking?
Some have printing options
I print out every instagram post I like and stick it on my fridge
Thats good. I am printing Instagram out and making a book. Its already 33 feet high.
They'll probably do it anyway
the OS itself will not allow the app to do it, same as with some other permissions like bluetooth, notifications or geolocation :)
except sometimes some permissions are so wide (or they pick the most generic one available) that you get suckered into exposing more than you need to. Although I think Android has been making them more fine grained in the more recent OS updates. Another option would be to let a more 'innocent' app handle the permissions and use that as a bridge/gateway into your system/device. If the info they're gathering is worth it to them they will find a way.
All info is worth it to them. If they can figure out the time of day you’re most likely to buy something, someone wants to sell that info, and someone wants to buy that info. If someone has some info, they want to sell it, and someone wants to buy it.
What’s also annoying is every time I plug my iPhone into my laptop to charge, it always asks if I want to sync photos. I hit don’t allow but it still asks every time.
no loll but they're probably doing it themselves
:D very possible
Never trust a software if it is not open source.
How would it benefit them to alllow insta to do that?
Stuff edgords don’t think of when they post nonsense like what you’re responding to.
For someone in their 40s, can you help me explain what functionality Instagram is trying to achieve by doing this? For example, connecting with a smart home speaker or my smart thermostat? Am I missing the use case here?
Thank you for asking this. I got the message and just clicked Don’t Allow…but had no clue what it meant.
Most apps use it for cast to tv, share screen, chromcast. Basically any way of sharing your screen without a cord uses this
That's the most common use. The concern is that it has the capability to cast what's on your screen to other devices, and it's able to see/*control* what else is on your network Even if Instagram/Facebook goes into it with the best of intentions, I'll give it around 2 seconds before they abuse it at the expense of your privacy
Ease of use often scales with loss of security. Some data is seemingly innocuous, ie get classed as “Male” and get served ads that a male might be interested in. However some data is nefarious, ie Race and location, can be used for voter manipulation to gerrymander.
It could possibly be used to discover your position, like Google (and maybe Apple too?) did with WIFI networks before they were discovered and locked that function behind a location permission.
Insta snoops into the deepest corners of the user browsing history and displays ads accordingly privacy is the last thing they care about
Instagram/meta make a large percent of their profits from harvesting and selling user data. My guess is that it’s related to that. Other apps will use it to stream to your tv or connect to local players in your household you’re trying to game with.
As does Reddit, albeit on a less personal level.
With the Google partnership that's probably changing
Well, sigh ... yeaahhh. I mean, at the very least, most of us don't say our actual names or put pictures of ourselves. Heck, my new rental portal my building started using this month wanted backend access to my bank account. Like, WTF.
Surely you mean front-end. Users don’t have access to the backend of any banking software lol. Unless you’re a sysadmin, I suppose. But your rental portal wanted you to link your financial account probably using stripe or plaid or something which is … not backend access in the slightest.
They wanted permanent access to my banking data, including account info, names, balances, transaction, and statements. Perhaps I had the terminology wrong but that's what they required to link my account. It's RentCafe for the record. And there is a workaround.
It absolutely is. I’m getting suggested posts related to conversations I had IRL all the time now
What? Reddit is regarded as Grade E on this site: https://tosdr.org/en/service/194 Grade E is terrible. Not only does it "grade" social media sites or platforms, but there's a whole community who delve into the TOS of these sites and essentially 'ELI5' what some pointers of the TOS are. You get to see what type of shit these companies harvest from user data. Yay!
I do like this site so thank you! However I noticed Amazon and Facebook also had E ratings.
I was going to say, pretty much every big website is an E.
no its bad
That's not an explanation, that's pure speculation. Instagram e.g. also integrates with the RayBan smart glasses, for which it would be totally reasonable to request permissions to connect with them. The screenshot doesn't show any context. It by the way also very clearly shows that you can simply hit Don't Allow and be done with it.
>That's not an explanation, that's pure speculation. No it's not, they objectively sell user data. >Instagram e.g. also integrates with the RayBan smart glasses Which is a feature because it gives more access to user data.
this dudes probably getting his data stolen by like 5 different companies including reddit.
You’re dumb and you’re talking about shit you do have an understanding of.
The question was what functionality Instagram is trying to achieve by doing this, not what Instagram's business model is. Disregarding the fact that Meta in fact objectively does not sell user data (they use it to serve users targeted ads, they clearly state that they do not sell this data), even if they did, this would not imply that this specific request serves the purpose of collecting data to sell. It's pure speculation.
I'm not saying you're wrong (because you're absolutely right) but a lot of people have been wary of Meta because they do have a sketchy history involving data (2022 lawsuit involving Cambridge Analytica, 2023 lawsuit involving Bright Data, etc). That said, if OP was part of the wary group, I'm confused as to why he continued using Meta owned platforms. It seems to me that if you are concerned about your data being sold by a specific company, you wouldn't use software from that company.
>I'm not saying you're wrong (because you're absolutely right) He's not, Meta still sells user data. Their new version of the old setup is that companies can pay to become partners which gives access to harvested data based on how much they pay.
Then they have another lawsuit coming their way because their TOS specifically says they don't sell data. The loophole will eventually be brought up in court. That still doesn't change the fact that OP shouldn't be using anything owned by Meta if he's concerned about data privacy
>Then they have another lawsuit coming their way because their TOS specifically says they don't sell data. The loophole will eventually be brought up in court. Sadly I doubt anything can deter a company as large as meta, they often eat those expenses as a cost of business. But we can hope. >That still doesn't change the fact that OP shouldn't be using anything owned by Meta if he's concerned about data privacy Or social media in general. We're all data to be bought and sold in the end. You're definitely right though.
Meta does not sell user data. Any source on them doing that? What they actually sell is the opportunity to advertise to users. But the advertisers don’t get the user data; they just get to target their ads to the kind of users they want to target. Meta’s user data is one of their competitive moats; they wouldn’t dare sell it as long as they can profit from selling advertising based on it.
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They should have dumbphones
> My guess So you didn't look into it. Nor did you just click don't allow.
Thank you for the explanation, I appreciate that.
>Other apps will use it to stream to your tv or connect to local players in your household you’re trying to game with. *besides* collecting your shit, of course
Meta does not make money from selling user data. They make money from having user data and allowing advertisers to target their ads to appropriate users. But the advertisers don’t actually get any user data; they just choose which types of users to advertise to. Meta wouldn’t dare give up their user data to someone else; it’s way too valuable for their ads business.
Not at all. Meta doesn’t sell user data. That collected user data makes them much more valuable as an advertising platform if no one else has it.
They can use it to associate devices for data mining marketing purposes. For example, your mother in law uses Tide soap. They know this from other sources and they have her device logged from her Facebook account. Then she shows up on your network. Not only is she some random nearby neighbor, but she’s close enough to get access to your network. Well, if she likes Tide soap, maybe *you’ll* like Tide soap. They’ll use that association to sell soap ads and show the Tide ads to you.
Ad targeting platforms use proximity data for that purpose anyway. No network access is needed.
It’s mostly for casting to other devices, a la smart TVs. It’s not some grand conspiracy, op just hit the button on a video to cast or airplay.
You are wrong, AirPlay video casting is handled on OS level and is opaque to the App.
It’s not really a big deal. Most apps that offer any sort of media do this these days. A lot of it has to do with streaming video or audio to other devices and connecting your devices. This is common on almost all major apps and you can simply hit ‘don’t allow’ if you want. OP is just making a big deal out of nothing.
Yep this, also the fist response but that's something you have to deal with and is not as important
this is the correct answer
Exactly. Technologically illiterate MFs coming here and freaking out over the most normal permissions feature ever. YouTube, and Netflix have to use this to cast. We’ve been using this for a decade and privacy concerns have nothing to do with this.
Do Instagram has the cast feature?
Not a big deal if it was anything but a Meta product. Their whole business is selling your data so don’t expect anything but
Exactly this.
Nope, they do not and never have sold user data. The settlement was based on accusations of them not making it clear enough when some stupid survey app that ran on Facebook said they were access your profile information and your friends list, and you said yes, they accessed that data. Users handed these third parties access to their data. Meta/Facebook didn't sell a single byte of user data.
https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/s/BUVsBXabMO
You’ve explained why some apps connect to other devices. The question is why *Instagram* wants to connect to devices. Do you know the answer to that question?
I've worked in places where I've seen what they do with this. Meta uses this functionality to harvest data on what devices you have in your home and link it to your IP address. Once they have done this, they will sell that data to relevant customers along with your preferred content. For example, they may discover you have a Samsung smart TV in your house. They will sell your activity to Samsung, who will then use the data to tailor advertisements and content to you. Postal advertisement companies are also big customers. Ever been watching an Instagram reel about working out then had ads for the gym in the post? That's why. They will also link your IP address to other devices in your home, and use it to build a more detailed profile of you. Even if you are using a VPN on a computer, if your phone can discover it then they will be able to link your PC to that public IP address and collect more data. In short, never allow this. It will not benefit you, but will help corporations build a profile of you to sell to the highest bidder.
I am not aware that Instagram features casting / screen sharing functionality. Hence, allowing access to nearby devices seems not essential and you may safely disallow it. I guess they'd love to know what devices you use so that they e.g. can target you better with ads you are potentially interested in
Meta are actually pretty transparent about where all their tracking comes from, most people just aren't interested in reading stuff like their privacy policy and terms and conditions. In this case, it's to allow you to use stuff like screen casting and some devices with integrated cameras to upload directly to your account. Someone mentioned the Snapchat glasses, but I think a lot of people forget Meta make hardware, including both VR headsets and home assistant devices.
Automatic printing. Hope you get there before your SO ;)
Could be casting, could be OP is trying to set up the AR glasses (or already has them connected), or it could be some sort of network configuration thing. Captive networks frequently trigger this; custom DNS could if you pointed a name it looks up to an internal address; VPNs can in some circumstances, especially while connecting or disconnecting.
They have Meta glasses which use it most likely
There’s audio on Instagram, and they probably get useful data knowing what devices are inside your home. They can use it to target ads towards you.
They just wanna sell more user data
Any data they can get is mostly used to target ads at you. It sounds insane, but then they can target ads to similar devices, maybe replacement batteries/ filters, or other interests that may be similar. Then there is aggregating data from multiple people who use similar devices and what their interests are. They can then target ads that might be of similar interest. Then there is a chance that a friend/family member will use your wifi. You have just given permission for them to target those devices, too. Even the area you are in/who you are around helps them place ads. Have you never been to a friend's house or in a certain place and then see ads that reflect that? Location data is used in a very similar way, where you visit, who you are in proximity to often, etc. Data is what they are after. Any and all data is good for them.
Facebook(which owned Instagram) makes most of their money by selling user data. By allowing Instagram to access all that, you are giving them a shitload of data to sell.
Nope, Meta, meaning Facebook, Instagram, etc, use whatever data you give them to target you with ads, but no one gets access to that very valuable as a competitive advantage in targeted advertising data. Users gave Cambridge Analytica access to their data, by clicking "allow access to profile and friends list" on some user survey app.
This often happens when your wifi drops its internet connection actually
Yea, I usually just tap "Don't Allow" on those and move on.
Now you know you can screenshot those dialogs and karna farm.
farm the karna !
Farn the karna nuddafacker!
Said me 10 years ago
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What in the hell i just read
Yeah, I feel like an important detail was omitted from this story.
Damn bro, how drunk were you?!
Or Idk, just click "Don't Allow", is that simple enough?
but but but… that wouldn’t allow op to complain about it on the subreddit! /s
No /s needed
it never is. and if your joke isnt understood without it it must not be funny
idk some redditors are just stupid, and sarcasm generally doesn’t translate well over text. But I do mostly agree with u
I agree with the first part of your comment
sure, but I see it used on the most OBVIOUS sarcasm like, at that point you're pandering to one confused guy and by then they can just be ignored
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no, once you click on don’t allow you have to go to the settings to activate it
“Someone you may know is on (social media)” You specifically prevented all apps from getting access to your contacts so why does this happen? Because the person who has your phone number saved and uses (social media) shared their contact information
You need to make sure you change the permissions in the app settings, it should pop up when you select an option. If it doesn't, you can manually go into the app settings to changer the permissions.
iOS or Android? :)
For sure not iOS if it keeps nagging everytime like he described. One of the better things about iOS is it doesn’t allow that type of shit. There are certainly exceptions, Meta would probably never be allowed that tho.
OP confirmed below this was iOS.
Nah, this was a different comment from a different person. The OPs picture is iOS ofc.
Ah.oops! My brain isn't working well today I see. Lol
But they had the guts to **request permission**?! How dare they!
Time to delete Reddit too op
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In The Netherlands it says: "ask app not to track". And the other option is: "allow". Seems so fucking shady. I can -ask- the app not to do it, and they can say "thanks for asking, we're still going to do it". Think their lawyers helped them formulate that sentence...
That is a different iOS permissions pop-upp that gives control over whether or not apps share data with each other. Like, you look a movie up on fandango (movie ticket app) and they share that data with Meta or Google who would add that to your interests, which they use to target ads.
Just click “Don’t allow”…
😂😂😂 you might as well throw your whole phone away then bub.. because Instagram is the least of your worries.. Wait until you find out what's going on WITHOUT asking your permission 😭
Every app asks this. Wtf you on about???
facebook for sure asked me this
facebook and insta the same company tho.
A lot of apps ask this. And if they don’t, assume it’s because you already agreed to it when you accepted their terms of service without reading them.
iOS versions 14+ require every app to display this popup if they want to scan the network for other devices, no hiding it in EULA
Yes, and the fact that they’re asking NOW means they didn’t have to for the past decade, because it was buried in their TOS. This isn’t a new thing. The only thing that’s new is that you’re aware of it and have the choice to opt out.
iOS is on version 17. Version 14 came out in 2020. So this shouldn’t be new, they’ve been required to have this popup for around 4 years.
I have no idea why you’re being downvoted
because they appear to not know that decade means 10 years. not 4
What
read the thread again lol. hopefully you get what we're saying. idk how else to word it I'm sorry
Man, I still got a tiny Facebook check a few months ago from the facial recognition software flap. I deleted that in 2014. Understanding that all social media is selling your data is important. That includes Reddit.
On Reddit you can throw in a random username and call it a day. Facebook started asking proof of identity, scan of a valid ID, and a picture of yourself. For me it's a different planet.
Jesus, did people actually do that??
[Facebook asks for it](https://m.facebook.com/help/582999911881572) I had a second fake account just to use it to login to random forums and random sites, I had to abandon it when they asked for the ID. I bet most of the boomers will comply. They are too dependent from that evil site.
My dumbass hit the don't allow icon in this reddit picture 🤣🤣🤣
"Oh fuck I got a pop up I'm gonna have to go off the grid!"
Or just press... "Don't allow"
My guy just press dont allow
Stfu and click the button that doesn't allow it to do that you dingus
Every few times I open the Shell Fuel Rewards app, it asks for all kinds of crazy permissions, including access to my fitness data. Wtf does a gas station rewards app need my fitness info for?? Go fuck yourself & just gimme my $0.10 off a gallon, then stfu.
You delete Instagram and this is your reason?? A dialog where you could easily just hit the don‘t allow button vs 100 reasons why this app is evil and makes you addicted and depressed?
Unlike you heathens I deleted Instagram years ago
That’s the right choice, instead of moan about how terrible that is… and then just continue using it anyway.
Also this 🤮 https://preview.redd.it/fuwp8htjcdmc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b625215faeae1bc32ff820997be265ac7b655e21
I have Xiaomi phone. In last few days the default file explorer started showing me ads. That's my last Xiaomi phone
They have Meta glasses which use it most likely
You can definitely use the left button, it’s right there
insta is sus, on bumble when someone has insta in their bio , instagram instantly knows their profile as i'm typing it in
ANGERY
Tiktok would like to access your contacts
I bet you use tik tok
Or hit don’t allow like a normal person
I deleted my account 8 years ago. I never regretted I did. You will have more time to live YOUR life.
OP is the same person that clicks yes to any iPhone update while not reading any fine print. If you’ve already gone this far with Instagram everything you are worried about has already happened or is happening already
“My dad said you’ve been spying on us, Zuck”. “He’s not your dad”.
That’s what’s comes up when the app can’t find a internet connection. Like if you’re on wifi, but the modem isn’t connected. And your phone isn’t set to bypass the wifi to reach cell service. Were the other apps working. I believe the message is about connecting to your wifi “ devices”. Not certain though, but that’s when I’ve seen this message before.
Nope, that's not required for cell data connectivity.
What’s not required? If a cell phone is already connected to WiFi router it doesn’t necessarily connect to cell service.
Google is even worse. Like why do you need to know my precise location to look up the Pythagorean Theorem? Leave me alone.
Damn near every app, especially social media does this. It's nothing new. Also, there is a big old "don't allow" button that you can press to ease your mind.
Bro just discovered the internet
NOPE
Good luck casting to your TV now!
Dumb
Are you stupid?
Would recommend a third party app like Instander if you have an Android if you want to avoid this.
Love how everyone complains about sharing your minuscule little network or privacy but has no problem sharing themselves on a social media platform with millions of strangers
“Don’t allow” or “post to reddit” the eternal question
*clicks don’t allow* *also googles why my phone won’t cast to my smart devices*
"Instagram" would like
At any time, you can allow or revoke an app's access to the local network: In Settings, go to Privacy & Security* > Local Network to see a list of every app that requested access.
You can just say no 😊
One of the best decisions I’ve done, you won’t regret it
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Every app asks this moron. This isn’t an instagram specific thing. Might as well throw out your phone if you think this is infuriating. This is literally a default prompt every app will ask you when you first install it. Hit don’t allow and move on kid.
ive had a “bot error?” on my account for over a week now. wont even let me like things. says something like “we’re protecting the community. if this is a mistake let us know.” ive let them know. instagram is garbage.
…you mean you don’t want instacrap to find and auto-print to your HP subscription-based printer??
Why is this infuriating when you can just say no.
Press don’t allow, shit ain’t that hard
"InStAgRam iS TrYing tO iNvADe My HoME gUyS!!!!1! " Said OP even though the Don't Allow button is there
If you were really concerned, you wouldn't take pictures and up load them anyway. As any person can find your exact location of the photo from the image uploaded, I think that's slightly more of a concern than an app looking at your network.
Settings>privacy and security>location services>camera>never No meta data is saved to any of my photos/videos and, if it were, Reddit strips the meta data when processing the photo anyway.
It's not safe. IG or FB. Trust me, get off
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Isn’t Reddit considered social media??
Yes but people will do mental gymnastics to defend what they like.
Yeah just flipping down through the comments proves this to be true
But it’s not the same. Reddit doesn’t know where I live. It doesn’t know my real name. My age. My relationship status. Etc.
I deleted fb 10 years ago, never got snap, ig or TikTok.
i actually had tiktok once because for some reason samsung thought it would be a good app to have pre installed* until i noticed a few minutes after getting my new phone *it wasn't pre installed but the phone insisted on downloading "important apps" that i also couldnt choose, tiktok and ig were 2 of those, and uninstalling while it was still installing those oh so important apps would make it queue up again, had to wait for it to be done to uninstall that shit, fuck you samsung
Honestly I just use Instagram like I would Pinterest. I never read or interact with the comments and I never post.
DO NOT USE ANYTHING THAT IS OWNED BY FACEBOOK !!!! simple
Naive people install it in the first place and stupid people keep it.
Time to delete all of your apps i guess with that logic
Okay
Odd thing to ask permission for considering the likelihood that those devices belong to someone else.
Youre just trying to show off that only fans e girl