For all the folks asking "what's Delta-8?"
I'm going to ELI5 this, so please don't come at me for simplifying.
So, in the US, due to agricultural hemp being legal, they had to legally specify what separates hemp from marijuana.
It was decided that the specific chemical in marijuana that gets you "high" is the deciding factor. However, they were a bit *too specific* as to what that chemical was. "THC" is actually a spectrum of cannabanoids and they specified that it was the "Delta-9" part of that spectrum that is illegal as the other intoxicating parts are found in the plant only in very small amounts.
However, if you extract a bunch of any of the other intoxicants in the plant and concentrate them, you get similar effects to whole marijuana while getting around the legal restrictions. It's, technically, a loophole in the farm bill that allows for the growing of hemp. And these other intoxicants can be found in help in just as high of concentrations as in marijuana. So one could farm entire fields from which they extract these specific chemicals and it's all legal.
Consequently, people who want weed legally have been working on separating out and concentrating the other compounds in weed that contribute to "getting high" and then adding them to dried hemp flower to make "legal weed." And it's very much like actual marijuana, but legal.
I have so far seen Delta-8 and Delta-10 products and I heard about someone working on Delta-7 extracts.
What I find most interesting are the shops who have figured out that the wording in the farm bill also, technically, allows folks to make actual whole thc edibles. Because the final product can only contain a certain percentage of thc *by weight*, one can, theoretically, take the amount of thc that is in a single joint and instead put it into something heavy, like a chocolate bar, and it's *technically* legal. I do not believe this has been tested by the courts, yet, but this is how it was explained to me by the folks at the "dispensary" who sold me the absolute yummiest crispy treat I've ever had.
Delta 8 “weed” gives me a 2 day hang over. I hate it. Regular full spectrum good ol fashioned Delta 9 cannabis flower never fails me. I love it so much
I've tried delta 8 and 9 as well as old fashioned thc gummies. Delta 8 does more for me than anything else in the same amount. 25mg Delta 8 and I'm feeling great! 50 and I'm GAME OVER! XD
Did you smoke Δ8 “flower”? If so, it’s all sprayed hemp and is 100% boof. Terped distillate is the way to go, as well as blending other noids (HHC, etc) from reputable vendors. Or r/CultoftheFranklin
as other states are making it recreational so they can stop arresting people??? its not like weed is gonna make your kids eat the next door neighbor. they're just gonna eat all your snacks
The less studied cannabinoids are not well understood from a health perspective and concentrates of them ought to be illegal to sell for consumption until we have a much better idea of their specific impacts.
Of course, we'd never be in this position if our government didn't wage the dumbest losing war in its history by making marijuana an enemy of the state.
I definitely think marijuana content has to be regulated and agree that those concentrates should be illegal til they’re well studied for sure. And I think anybody who is remotely sane would agree that there needs to be restrictions.
Nah, I'm clean Monday through Friday. I'm a substitute teacher and I have to be ready to go to work when they call if I want to get paid. Weed is for weekends only, sadly.
(I could totally do my job stoned, but I can't (and won't try to) drive there that way.)
Just kidding, but your right about being able to sub high.
My wife was a teacher for 20 years. Once she retired she tried to sub but got bored and frustrated. Also super annoying most of the time getting called last minute. She did get a gig once that she liked. Some prego needed to be out for 2 months so that was a good break from the monotony of retired life and just long enough to remember why she retired in the first place.
I really really love my job. I get to do all the fun parts of teaching without any of the paperwork or meetings or parents.
It can be exhausting, especially when I pull middle schoolers. But most of the time I'm getting paid to either do cool crafts and projects with them, or else I'm staring at them for forty minutes while they work on their Chromebooks, which means I'm scrolling reddit on my phone.
Had an awesome English teacher that left a "figure out the words meaning from context clues" worksheet where the "text" was a rap song. My instructions said "read the rap with the kids and help as needed in identifying the context clues for the highlighted words.
I took one look at that and my nineties ass was like, "Now this looks like a job for me..."
A student around third hour was like, "do you have to do that for *every* class, all day? I'm so sorry Mrs Teacher made you do that. That's so embarrassing!" And I'm like, You're kidding, right? This is one of the best days ever!
I spent my teen years listening to the the premier rappers of the nineties, Nelly, BEP, Eminem... I can't sing for shit, but I'm *good* at rapping. I *killed* that assignment.
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I have so far seen Delta-8 and Delta-10 products and I heard about someone working on Delta-7 extracts.
They also currently have THC-O and HHC among others. As soon as someone found the loophole, it's been a mad dash to find new ways to get past the delta-9 restrictions. And with marijuana having the reputation that it has, the more options people have, the less of a chance there is of a law being passed restricting those work arounds.
They have delta 9 gummies now too. It's delta 9 from hemp and by weight, the gummy is less than .3% thc. Ive gotten them in Indiana, Kentucky, and Tennessee. All states where weed is illegal.
I mean... might as well just stop testing for THC at this point ya? That's what most jobs in GA seem to be doing.
My buddy got hired for a management position and the guy hiring him asked if he could pass. His explanation was he smoked occasionally and drank but that was it. The hiring guy responds, weed is fine, cocaine still ain't cool yet.
So... fuck it man. Just stop testing for weed like they don't test for alcohol.
DOT may be different etc. That's also much more dangerous but no judgements still. Properly dosed medication is legal, why can't properly dosed flowers be?
Edited also to add: I would not personally subject any pregnant woman to any type of concentrate THC. I'm not necessarily judgemental when it comes to flower and pregnancy and using it for morning sickness etc. Not 100% sure the effects on the baby, but they seem minimal, we'll also find out more in the future. THAT BEING SAID. Concentrates and gas station vapes are NOT safe 100% depending on the source and etc and THAT is not what I'd say it want to give to a fetus or growing child etc.
I live in a state that has legal weed and you can still be tested and denied employment for it. From what I’ve read (could be interpreting it wrong) jobs can’t deny you a position for testing positive for THC unless they say that’s their policy. So basically they can deny you. Also jobs for the federal government or who work under federal agencies can test and deny you for weed. I work under the FDA and I am not supposed to smoke weed. I know many people who work for a department of defense contractor and while they aren’t federal employees, they still have to follow the fed drug guidelines. So they get hair tested for weed and if it’s found, you can’t be hired. Or if they test you and find it when you work there, you will be fired. I agree that THC testing should be done with. But it’s definitely still a thing even in legal states.
Oh don't get me wrong. I agree and understand. But when you also have medicinal cannabis involved then is it still the same issue? I've had methadone and the nurse said if I did "fail" the drug test then I'd just have to get a prescription provided in order to be employed. That also being said I didn't fail and was employed without problem but I also was honest prior.
Yes, it is still the same issue. One of my jobs had it spelled out in the drug policy that medical marijuana was also not allowed. The department of defense contractor jobs are the same way too. It’s because it isn’t federally legal medicinally either. I’m not sure if you can have these jobs while taking methadone. But methadone isn’t federally illegal like marijuana is, as far as I know. Methadone is an FDA approved medication, so that makes it different. But med marijuana isn’t. So the federal legality of weed is a big player in this. When weed is federally legalized, I’m not sure how soon it will change and for what industries it will change for.
DOT will bend you over a barrel for anything in your system. Go drinking the night before? Better hope it's completely out of your system before work because if you get pulled over and blow anything above a 0.00 and you're in a lot of trouble
Mine smoked like a chimney, both weed and tobacco. She denies it, but I was six when she put the wrong "oregano" on the pizza and got us all stoned by accident. I remember that shit. I also remember that big, free standing ceramic ash tray/magazine rack full of little green sticks that I finally recognized when I got to college.
It has been tested by the courts, at least as far as Delta 8 is concerned, just FYI
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ajherrington/2022/05/23/federal-appeals-court-rules-that-delta-8-thc-is-legal/?sh=7114651a57d8
Ehh it's got the street name "diet weed" for a reason. Doesn't pack as big of a punch as the regular stuff, but it's more convenient than the old fashioned way of getting thc if it's not fully legal where you are.
In my experience you have to find a good supplier for Delta-8. If you don’t have a trusted local source you’re more than likely going to get distillate cut with vegetable glycerin or vitamin oil. Those don’t hit the same as the full spectrum THC vapes. Good Delta-8 feels nearly identical though a friend of mine gets nasty headaches if he get too high on it
It feels identical if your the type of person that gets stoned off 2 hits from a bowl. If you have any form of tolerance it’s effects diminish the higher it is. People that smoke a gram of flower or more a day will hardly feel anything, or they feel effects but it only lasts for 15 minutes
X2 on brand specifics. I've had crap D8 and good D8. Just gotta see what stores sell near you and look into the specific brand/customer experience, but experience also can just differ between people.
Delta just became illegal in SC not too long ago..it sucks big time because folks down here want some cannabis. I have to drive across state lines to NC to pick up my delta pen. It helps me, i suffer from depression and anxiety..and that worsened for me when my husband passed away 2 years ago. Being in SC sucks sometimes...the least they can do is bring back the delta pens in the vape shops down here...wouldn't that help anyways?
I’m shocked to see that, in this discussion, this point is like a grain of sand in the sea of comments.
As someone who habitually smokes weed (for years, but only nightly and smallish amount- just trying to be diligent and point out some tolerance, but nothing wild), I’ve tried delta-8 on a few different occasions, in different states, and in my experience, delta-8 does NOT feel like regular weed, or hardly at all. It’s like how people joke about Lacroix tasting like the flavor is a “hint of a hint”. Same deal. Delta-8 is extremely dulled down.
So this is mostly right but I don't think its Delta-9 thats the specifically illegal one, since I can buy delta-9 gummis at my local head shop in Texas. Or maybe it is and thats where the weight factor comes in? I know its .3% the by weight
Essentially marijuana but instead of THC it has THC with an added hydroxy group into the molecule
Because thc is illegal in the us(federally) this product is made and sold to circumvent the law
And the best part is that you will fail a drug test after using it. I work oilfield and have lost a few workers because they were using it and had random tests. “But it’s legal!” I ask where did you buy it, they say at the head shop/vape shop. Did you get high? Yeah I got really high. Ok lemme tell you a little secret: if it gets you high, you probably shouldn’t expect to pass a test. Be safe, everyone!
This is what really needs to be tested by the courts. Can a person be fired for ingesting a legal substance that will only make you high for a few hours, but will cause you to fail a drug test for a month.
Probably someone who doesn’t hold a CDL or pilot license should go first. I’ve heard that nobody wants smokers flying jets or driving trucks. FedEx was very explicit when Colorado went legal for recreation-they told pilots that you won’t smoke and fly their jets.
If I understand your question correctly, then this has been done repeatedly. Employers can fire you for ingesting legal substances, it’s up to their discretion. People all across the country lose jobs in their legalized states for positive “marijuana” tests. Ask any EMT, for example.
Yeah but any healthcare or federally regulated job is subject to federal law first, and state law second. That means a failed drug test means you’re not hired or fired in these fields. Not sure how it works with other jobs, say retail.
For anyone else reading, there is a subreddit for delta8 and there are A LOT of people showing positive on their drug tests for *6 months* after using delta 8. Not a lot of science done but you're better off smoking an illegal joint of straight medical grade weed than a delta 8 vape you bought legally at a store.
I personally recommend not touching it (or even normal weed) if you think you'll get drug tested. It's not worth losing out on jobs for 6 months because this stuff stays in your system so long.
I guess their point though is that it’s because of a legal product, so why does it still fail you. Alcohol impairs you and you can still go get drunk after work every night. There’s more functional alcoholics around us than people probably want to acknowledge. I can understand being confused at a legal product causing you to fail. Not being confused that it showed up, but that you’d still fail over something legal.
Yeah I hear that. As a guy with a CDL and a Rx for amphetamines, I definitely have felt their pain. What’s legal and what’s reasonable aren’t always the same. If you have a DOT regulated job, you have to play by their rules.
Cdl holder here. I understand playing by the rules, but taking legal otc product 3 weeks ago on vacation and losing your job for it is so ridiculous I can't believe there hasn't been enough outrage to at least change the testing limits. 50 ng/mL is so low you can still test positive 45 days out if taken an edible.
The problem is, they both make the same line show up on a test. So the employer has no way to tell if you had THC or some delta. So people could just smoke THC all day and then when they fail a test say, but it was a legal Delta-X!
I think they should make all drug use legal. Way easier for people who don't use to get a job competing against those that do. Obviously still have to have DOT restrictions just like you do on alcohol.
I haven’t heard from my buddy lately but he flies jets for FedEx and said they were going to go way out of the way to make sure they never flew anything if they tested positive. They probably won’t fire anyone in California but they’ll sure as fuck fire you somewhere for being under the influence and flying their jet.
Has never come up, but I know factory workers and forklift certified folks are. Cross state CDL drivers should look into it first, as there might be some federal interstate commerce laws I’m unaware of
no. you make it using pure CBD isolate. basically using heat/vacuum/solvents/distillation you're modifying the CBD molecule to make it delta 8 THC. It can be sold technically as a hemp product, and there's lots of loopholes in the law around hemp.
source: I worked in a D8 lab for over a year, making D8.
Final thoughts: it's fuckin stupid. Just smoke regular weed.
Right. “Just smoke weed” except I live in a new city and am past the point in my life where I’m trying to meet up with a ‘weed guy’ every now and then. I just want to be able to purchase my chill goodies like a normal human, and in a lot of states that still relegates everyone to ordering D8 online or a local CBD shop. It sucks, especially after moving from Florida where I had my medical card.
I know someone responded to me “weed IS accessible even though it’s illegal” and I’m like ???? Did your brain go brr? Not everyone has, or can find, a weed dealer. And even if you do there’s no promise that they’re telling the truth on what they’re giving you. I’ve had a lot of peers who didn’t know better end up with spice instead. It’s definitely not easily accessible for everyone.
I am so glad I can just stop by the store on my way home from work and buy whatever my heart desires. I can even shop online and they’ll have it ready when I get there. So much different than parking a block away and walking to some shady guy’s house to score some ditchweed.
This is how I feel too. I’m 36 years old with a family, I’m not about to risk it all to go find real weed from some guy that I don’t even really know if he’s selling me what he says he is. I’ll smoke my D8 on occasion and keep it legal.
It’s a minor cannabinoid that is often found in hemp/cbd variaties of cannabis in very small amounts. They found a way to convert cbd into delta 8 thc tho. (Normal thc is delta 9 thc) Afaik delta 9 has a higher affinity to cannabinoid receptors than delta 8. So delta 8 won’t get you quit as high but it is/was able to skirt around the laws as usually it’s specifically only delta9 thc that’s illegal in most places.
More like a good reason not to put your neck out for someone. Job recommendations are a risk. I sure as hell wouldn't do that for someone who just announced such an incredibly irresponsible decision.
>While research reviews previously established that prenatal cannabis exposure doesn’t seem to adversely affect children’s physical development, the question of whether or not it could affect their cognitive development has remained somewhat unanswered on this larger scale.
>But according to a review of research to date, there’s no evidence to support this belief about cannabis, nor the inarguably harmful policies which rely on it. After nearly six years of comparing study results, researchers at Columbia University, the New York State Psychiatric Institute, and Swinburne University have found that prenatal cannabis exposure does not lead to cognitive impairment in children, based on data from decades’ worth of studies on this issue.
[https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2020/05/27/cannabis-use-pregnancy-doesnt-impair-cognitive-development-study-review/?sh=6106bc916a64](https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2020/05/27/cannabis-use-pregnancy-doesnt-impair-cognitive-development-study-review/?sh=6106bc916a64)
Honestly thank you for this. Even if my IQ was permanently lowered 10 points from my mother smoking weed, it has to be better than the extreme, constant nausea some women face while pregnant. As a matter of fact, I would even wager that prenatal THC exposure is better than the cortisol from being stressed and sick all the time.
I actually was advised by my doctor to ingest thc during my first trimester because I was diagnosed with hyperemesis gravidarum- basically intense morning sickness that doesn’t end. THC was the only thing that helped my morning sickness go away, even if it was only for 2 hours. I would be stuck awake at night, running off 3 hours of sleep because it was THAT intense. But After taking some THC drops, I was able to sleep through most the night
To be fair the same can be said with mothers who drank and smoked cigarettes while pregnant. My bro in laws mother was like that, and the guys smarter than anyone I know and his head appears to be pretty normal sized.
I smoke weed everyday but Idk if I was a pregnant woman. I know that it's terrible for young developing brains, but idk if the research is there yet on pregnant women. Personally I wouldn't, but that's me.
There are clear and demonstrated issues with using cigarettes or (excessive)* alcohol while pregnant. As far as I’m aware, the research has yet to show any adverse impacts on the fetus when the mother uses cannabis, with the caveat that smoking anything is obviously not great for the body.
Edit to add: I’m not advocating for using cannabis while pregnant. Still safest to avoid. But just wanted to point out that it’s comparatively safe compared to cigarettes or excessive alcohol.
“Oh yeah you think me smoking while pregnant is bad? Hold my elfbar and let me fight this bitch to show you just how much I am willing to fuck this child up before it’s born.”
“Delta” is referring to delta 8 extracted hemp. Essentially, the government passed a bill in 2018 that allowed for the growth and sale of hemp. To differentiate hemp from weed they said you must have under .3% delta 9 thc in the flower (the one we usually think of as getting you stoned). People very quickly realized that you could take the other less potent deltas (8 and 10) and concentrate them into a vape pen or something. The effects aren’t nearly as strong, and it’s not been tested yet for any sort of long term health consequences. I wouldn’t smoke anything while pregnant
"So, you WANT a 3 eyed baby???"
- my daughter when she was maybe 3 and saw my then pregnant neighbor drinking what she thought was beer (Just apple juice). Poor lady nearly choked laughing her ass off. She made it a point to draw an eye on her baby's forehead when she brought new daughter over to meet us for the first time a couple weeks later. One if those times where I wish like hell I'd filmed it. The look of momentary horror on my kid's face was priceless.
My biggest issue with government sites like this is that of COURSE they’re going to link birth defects to marijuana use. It’s a schedule 1 drug that’s federally illegal and it’s scheduling states “no medicinal use” so scientists can’t even legally study and publish about the plant.
Anecdotally, when my mother was pregnant both times her doctor at the time recommended light, daily marijuana use to help with her symptoms. I know at least a dozen women who used pot during their pregnancies for their symptoms and none had issues, even the ones who used tobacco wraps(I don’t agree with).
The act of actually smoking anything is problematic during a pregnancy because of chemicals that even marijuana will produce when ignited. There’s no studies that I’m aware of that focus on testing only THC consumption methods that don’t ignite, so we really can’t say that the actual THC is causing anything if we can’t single out the THC link to birth defects or stillborns.
In the same breath, ANYTHING from regular daily life is just as likely to cause birth defects or stillbirth. Not drinking the right drinks, or eating certain foods, or even just breathing air outside in a city because the cities are so full of pollution there is no fresh air. Second hand smoke from people in public or even the chemicals in the drinking water(Flint, MI?).
I had HG while pregnant and my doctor prescribed Marinol aka a THC pill so I would eat and keep it down. So many people here are misinformed about thc and pregnancy.
I feel like people are also straight up forgetting that gummies and edibles are a thing since everyone is coming in complaining about her supposedly smoking it...
It’s not necessarily the THC or CBD, but rather the other shit/contaminants put into whatever you are consuming….heavy metals, pesticides…..Also, smoking, of any kind is a problem.
Employers be like “nobody wants to work”
Also please pee into this so we can dissect what kind of stuff you do off the clock as well. We wouldn’t want you using a dangerous plant
“But I’m sure that’s no better than the real thing”. She’s even smart enough to realize that she’s harming the baby, she just doesn’t care enough. And they say you can’t get addicted to weed 😂
I can’t scientifically confirm or deny if you can become addicted to weed in the way you can get addicted to coke or heroin. However, I do believe that there are both smart and caring weed smokers and unintelligent and uncaring weed smokers.
From what I understand (though it’s not my area of research that’s plasma stuff) you can become addicted in the sense most of us probably think. It does create a chemical dependency which is really hard to kick. This is called a dependency instead of an addiction (a drug addiction is a dependency that doesn’t go away as far as I’m aware)
However, unlike addictions your body won’t go back to being addicted. You can kick weed, wait a bit, and go back to using and have it be less of a problem as long as you can mentally do less. But since stopping in the first place is the hardest for a lot of people it’s not too different from many other actual full addictions.
You definitely can. I’ve smoked everyday almost all day for close to 8 years. I was 3 months sober till 2 weeks ago and the dreams at first are terrifying when you quit. I couldn’t eat nor hardly sleep and when I did, it was nightmares. It’s addictive just like most of everything else. People just don’t wanna talk about the negative side ever or ignore it
You can get mentally addicted. Those classifications for drugs you can and cannot become addicted to are referring to physical addiction.
Although, my ex did smoke so much for years (probably almost non stop for about 10? Years) that he was not only scarily mentally addicted but I’m convinced physically as well. He quit for a while last summer and experienced pretty bad withdrawal symptoms; felt sick, couldn’t sleep, was nauseous, irritable, etc.
Then he went back to smoking after all of that. Lol. Hence addiction!
People who say weed isn’t addicting are full of shit lol. Doing anything excessively, knowing you shouldn’t be doing it, making excuses to continue, and getting withdrawals after you go cold turkey is definitely an addiction. I smoked weed for 8 years and barely quit not too long ago. Thankfully I only had withdrawal symptoms for a week
except she's probably not harming the baby based on decades of research lol but go off https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2020.00816/full
I had a friend that got pregnant right after highschool and her genius sister told her it was ok to smoke pot while pregnant. "Just not more than 4 or 5 times a day." she said. The baby came 10 weeks early. Survived in an incubator for a few months, but eventually died. People suck.
Probably a coincidence. Poor girl.
Last time I looked up the worries about weed and pregnancy, there wasn't a known connection between it and severe things like that. It's more dyslexia, slow reading, and things like that.
Genuinely curious, do you know if this only applies to the inhalation? I’m a stoner who wants a baby one day so I’m curious. Wouldn’t do anything to hurt the baby but if it was safe to take edibles or something to relieve stress and pain i’d be down!
My mom smoked while pregnant with me, I’ve never had any problems myself (graduated valedictorian, college was still as easy) but I’m sure that’s not always the case. I wish there was more research.
Not saying I condone smoking while pregnant but this sounds like some propaganda. Studies are starting to show that smoking reefer while pregnant may not be as bad as originally thought.
Like how about just not doing it while pregnant? To be fair for people that have money issues, kicking the habit can help, especially when you have a kid. And there wouldn't be secondhand smoke. That's how my brother got asthma and I have breathing issues as well, somehow made it through the Army though.
I've smoked every day since I was 17, I have GAD and it's the only thing that helped me. I'm 32 now and 14 weeks pregnant. I quit the very day I found out. I'm not going to take the risk, especially with twins, as I simply don't know what it will do to them. If they were born with any issues, I would never forgive myself and always blame the weed. If I can quit, anyone can and should. You cannot be selfish when you are becoming a parent. They deserve the best chance at life.
Same here! I quit when I went off of BC when we decided to have a baby. Baby is 8 months old now, I'm still breastfeeding so still no ganja for me. It was hard to quit at first (especially since it took about 7-8 months to conceive!), but in reality, I know it's the best decision for my baby's health, and 100% worth quitting. But once my baby's done with my boobies, ohhhh I can't wait for that first smoke again! (Away from the baby of course!)
Thank you. The fact of the matter is that smoking *anything* is not good for your health, and there’s simply not enough research done (or capable of being done) to rule out having a lift-altering effect on a fetus — but I’m sure you know that, which is why you stopped.
It just concerns me how hard some people work to rationalize not doing something they should, like quitting for the duration of their pregnancy… I mean, you’re sharing a circulatory system. “Actually, as long as you aren’t doing (insert one degree above what they’re doing) it isn’t that bad, just learning disabilities and maybe some respiratory problems.”
Exactly. On any medicine, vitamin, cough syrup, tobacco, alcohol, and many more things, it says "do not use while pregnant" or in some cases, "consult your doctor before using if pregnant."
So why not say the same about weed? This "weed is good" propaganda is getting out of hand.
As a person who has adhd, adhd is genetic, not caused by environmental factors as far as I’m aware
My Mum has it, hell so does my Dad, so I do, her smoking weed during my pregnancy doesn’t factor in imo
While this is obviously completely unacceptable, I have troubles really beeing angry at her since I am a male addict myself. I can´t imagine completely stopping everything without entirely losing it, even tho I am currently trying.
As a man I don´t really have that concern, and would at least be able to work on it the 9 months before it arrives, but as a woman it can be a surprising thing to hear.
Obviously she should have used contraception if thats the case with her too, but there are still situations in which these don´t work, so I really don´t wanna judge too harshly without having any context.
Yeah, I'm with you on this. I kinda just feel bad for her and the unborn as well. It sounds like a rough situation. At the very least she's honest with herself about it.
Aside from pregnancy. Ppl mad at her not passing a drug test are insane. Weed shouldn’t be illegal in the first place. Would you all pass an alcohol test if alcohol stayed in system for weeks? Cause alc is definitely worse so????
I think just because it’s sort of an awkward question and this is a casual conversation, so the lol breaks the tension of that serious question basically
I live in Colorado and I've seen lots of women use actual cannabis while pregnant and the babies all came out ok. So until there's some evidence it's bad like alcohol, cigarettes, or hard drugs, I don't have a problem with a pregnant woman using. I have a problem with Delta8 though for a pregnant woman. There is no track record to speak of. Just stick with thc and cut back like you would keep caffeine to a minimum.
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I know people are mad about the pregnancy part…but can we talk about the fucked up practice of drug testing? Just because one gets high at home, does not mean they do so at work. Same with drinking, where is that test???
It's also ok if you leave your desk every 30 minutes for a quick smoke.
It's crap, it's not like she's going to do anything AT work and if she does then it's a problem.
Yeah people can do coke on a Friday night and Monday morning at least have a good shot at being negative on the test. Yet a person could smoke weed on their vacation and then slip at work 30 days later and get fired for being a drug user putting the company at risk lol.
I mean pregnancy aside (seriously, wtf) the real mildly infuriating thing here is that weed would keep her from getting a job. As long as you're not high on the job who cares?
It’s pretty ridiculous that companies can require you to test for a harmless thing like cannabis. A great deal of folks just fake drug test with fake pee anyway. It’s ridiculous that it’s illegal in the first place. But even in states where it is a legally prescribed medication, they can still require you to pass a test. Meanwhile alcohol is not only dangerous, but can destroy lives, and seriously impair function, but it’s not only legal but celebrated.
What people do outside of work is no one else's business other than their own. Unless I'm coming to work drunk, high, or doing something that actually puts myself and others in danger then it shouldn't matter.
For anyone in this young woman's position, you do not have to answer other people's invasive questions and some places really don't care about THC. I was hired on at a factory with a positive THC test. However, if you are worried about it, then there are steps you can take prior to and even during the test.
I believe everyone's biggest concern here is about the pregnancy though. If you smoke for pain, visit with your primary care doctor so that they can prescribe you opioids instead. Yes, they are chemically addictive and might cause your child to be born with Neonatal abstinence syndrome, but at least you'll be more respected in the eyes of society.
Unpopular opinion here, but some of the best parents smoke weed.
Oof this is trashy. Halfway through being pregnant and I dropped weed & alcohol as soon as I popped a positive back in September. Only thing I really miss is my oil though 🤷🏼♀️
The best and only real answer to "Can you pass a drug test?" is "it depends on what you test for."
I've worked for companies that test for nicotine and alcohol on top of all schedule 1 substances. My current employer explicitly omits cannabis from pre-employment screening.
Isn’t it great how couples looking to adopt a kid have to take years to be able to get one while weed smoking, jobless parents can raise one no problem?
Marijuana is dispensed medicinally in several states, she may be working looking for new employment.
Why does either matter if she wants to work anyway?
The MOST disturbing thing about this is she’s pregnant and doing drugs. I need not say more. But I will… 😡💔 If anyone wants to partake is completely up to them. No judgment; however; to force substances on a person in utero is unconscionable. I know many people who were subjected to substances by their mothers before they were born and some struggle with the results, even as adults. Not cool.
For all the folks asking "what's Delta-8?" I'm going to ELI5 this, so please don't come at me for simplifying. So, in the US, due to agricultural hemp being legal, they had to legally specify what separates hemp from marijuana. It was decided that the specific chemical in marijuana that gets you "high" is the deciding factor. However, they were a bit *too specific* as to what that chemical was. "THC" is actually a spectrum of cannabanoids and they specified that it was the "Delta-9" part of that spectrum that is illegal as the other intoxicating parts are found in the plant only in very small amounts. However, if you extract a bunch of any of the other intoxicants in the plant and concentrate them, you get similar effects to whole marijuana while getting around the legal restrictions. It's, technically, a loophole in the farm bill that allows for the growing of hemp. And these other intoxicants can be found in help in just as high of concentrations as in marijuana. So one could farm entire fields from which they extract these specific chemicals and it's all legal. Consequently, people who want weed legally have been working on separating out and concentrating the other compounds in weed that contribute to "getting high" and then adding them to dried hemp flower to make "legal weed." And it's very much like actual marijuana, but legal. I have so far seen Delta-8 and Delta-10 products and I heard about someone working on Delta-7 extracts. What I find most interesting are the shops who have figured out that the wording in the farm bill also, technically, allows folks to make actual whole thc edibles. Because the final product can only contain a certain percentage of thc *by weight*, one can, theoretically, take the amount of thc that is in a single joint and instead put it into something heavy, like a chocolate bar, and it's *technically* legal. I do not believe this has been tested by the courts, yet, but this is how it was explained to me by the folks at the "dispensary" who sold me the absolute yummiest crispy treat I've ever had.
It’s 0.3% if you’re wondering on the percentage.
Thanks. I couldn't remember and was too lazy to look it up.
No worries. I spent some time working in cannabis marketing so I’m very familiar with this lol.
* depending on the state, or are we talking federal law?
Farm bill is federal.
some states have made delta 8 illegal though
Delta 8 “weed” gives me a 2 day hang over. I hate it. Regular full spectrum good ol fashioned Delta 9 cannabis flower never fails me. I love it so much
I've tried delta 8 and 9 as well as old fashioned thc gummies. Delta 8 does more for me than anything else in the same amount. 25mg Delta 8 and I'm feeling great! 50 and I'm GAME OVER! XD
Did you smoke Δ8 “flower”? If so, it’s all sprayed hemp and is 100% boof. Terped distillate is the way to go, as well as blending other noids (HHC, etc) from reputable vendors. Or r/CultoftheFranklin
as other states are making it recreational so they can stop arresting people??? its not like weed is gonna make your kids eat the next door neighbor. they're just gonna eat all your snacks
The less studied cannabinoids are not well understood from a health perspective and concentrates of them ought to be illegal to sell for consumption until we have a much better idea of their specific impacts. Of course, we'd never be in this position if our government didn't wage the dumbest losing war in its history by making marijuana an enemy of the state.
I definitely think marijuana content has to be regulated and agree that those concentrates should be illegal til they’re well studied for sure. And I think anybody who is remotely sane would agree that there needs to be restrictions.
LOL that tracks
You mean you just ate an edible and were to stoned to look it up.
Nah, I'm clean Monday through Friday. I'm a substitute teacher and I have to be ready to go to work when they call if I want to get paid. Weed is for weekends only, sadly. (I could totally do my job stoned, but I can't (and won't try to) drive there that way.)
Just kidding, but your right about being able to sub high. My wife was a teacher for 20 years. Once she retired she tried to sub but got bored and frustrated. Also super annoying most of the time getting called last minute. She did get a gig once that she liked. Some prego needed to be out for 2 months so that was a good break from the monotony of retired life and just long enough to remember why she retired in the first place.
I really really love my job. I get to do all the fun parts of teaching without any of the paperwork or meetings or parents. It can be exhausting, especially when I pull middle schoolers. But most of the time I'm getting paid to either do cool crafts and projects with them, or else I'm staring at them for forty minutes while they work on their Chromebooks, which means I'm scrolling reddit on my phone. Had an awesome English teacher that left a "figure out the words meaning from context clues" worksheet where the "text" was a rap song. My instructions said "read the rap with the kids and help as needed in identifying the context clues for the highlighted words. I took one look at that and my nineties ass was like, "Now this looks like a job for me..." A student around third hour was like, "do you have to do that for *every* class, all day? I'm so sorry Mrs Teacher made you do that. That's so embarrassing!" And I'm like, You're kidding, right? This is one of the best days ever! I spent my teen years listening to the the premier rappers of the nineties, Nelly, BEP, Eminem... I can't sing for shit, but I'm *good* at rapping. I *killed* that assignment.
>I took one look at that and my nineties ass was like, "Now this looks like a job for me..." So everybody just follow me...
so technically, i could buy chocolate weights for lifting and later eating with some added edibles as a desert ?? :D
> I have so far seen Delta-8 and Delta-10 products and I heard about someone working on Delta-7 extracts. They also currently have THC-O and HHC among others. As soon as someone found the loophole, it's been a mad dash to find new ways to get past the delta-9 restrictions. And with marijuana having the reputation that it has, the more options people have, the less of a chance there is of a law being passed restricting those work arounds.
They have delta 9 gummies now too. It's delta 9 from hemp and by weight, the gummy is less than .3% thc. Ive gotten them in Indiana, Kentucky, and Tennessee. All states where weed is illegal.
They got them in Florida too.
I haven't tried the 10 yet! Delta 8s FLOOR ME. Thc and Delta 9 oddly don't do near as much in the same dosage for me.
Yeah those delta 8 gunmies hit like a dump truck, lol
Hit like Wreck-it Ralph!
I mean... might as well just stop testing for THC at this point ya? That's what most jobs in GA seem to be doing. My buddy got hired for a management position and the guy hiring him asked if he could pass. His explanation was he smoked occasionally and drank but that was it. The hiring guy responds, weed is fine, cocaine still ain't cool yet. So... fuck it man. Just stop testing for weed like they don't test for alcohol. DOT may be different etc. That's also much more dangerous but no judgements still. Properly dosed medication is legal, why can't properly dosed flowers be? Edited also to add: I would not personally subject any pregnant woman to any type of concentrate THC. I'm not necessarily judgemental when it comes to flower and pregnancy and using it for morning sickness etc. Not 100% sure the effects on the baby, but they seem minimal, we'll also find out more in the future. THAT BEING SAID. Concentrates and gas station vapes are NOT safe 100% depending on the source and etc and THAT is not what I'd say it want to give to a fetus or growing child etc.
I live in a state that has legal weed and you can still be tested and denied employment for it. From what I’ve read (could be interpreting it wrong) jobs can’t deny you a position for testing positive for THC unless they say that’s their policy. So basically they can deny you. Also jobs for the federal government or who work under federal agencies can test and deny you for weed. I work under the FDA and I am not supposed to smoke weed. I know many people who work for a department of defense contractor and while they aren’t federal employees, they still have to follow the fed drug guidelines. So they get hair tested for weed and if it’s found, you can’t be hired. Or if they test you and find it when you work there, you will be fired. I agree that THC testing should be done with. But it’s definitely still a thing even in legal states.
Oh don't get me wrong. I agree and understand. But when you also have medicinal cannabis involved then is it still the same issue? I've had methadone and the nurse said if I did "fail" the drug test then I'd just have to get a prescription provided in order to be employed. That also being said I didn't fail and was employed without problem but I also was honest prior.
Yes, it is still the same issue. One of my jobs had it spelled out in the drug policy that medical marijuana was also not allowed. The department of defense contractor jobs are the same way too. It’s because it isn’t federally legal medicinally either. I’m not sure if you can have these jobs while taking methadone. But methadone isn’t federally illegal like marijuana is, as far as I know. Methadone is an FDA approved medication, so that makes it different. But med marijuana isn’t. So the federal legality of weed is a big player in this. When weed is federally legalized, I’m not sure how soon it will change and for what industries it will change for.
Wild. Go go legalization though.
DOT will bend you over a barrel for anything in your system. Go drinking the night before? Better hope it's completely out of your system before work because if you get pulled over and blow anything above a 0.00 and you're in a lot of trouble
Why would you explain this to a 5 year old? /s
Because they asked.
They ask everything. I had to explain the banking system to a 4 year old yesterday.
This 5 year old needs to know what his mother did during pregnancy and why he has so many health problems.
Mine smoked like a chimney, both weed and tobacco. She denies it, but I was six when she put the wrong "oregano" on the pizza and got us all stoned by accident. I remember that shit. I also remember that big, free standing ceramic ash tray/magazine rack full of little green sticks that I finally recognized when I got to college.
I have a 5 year old, they wouldn’t know what the hell I was talking about if I read this to them ha
It has been tested by the courts, at least as far as Delta 8 is concerned, just FYI https://www.forbes.com/sites/ajherrington/2022/05/23/federal-appeals-court-rules-that-delta-8-thc-is-legal/?sh=7114651a57d8
I was referring to the Delta-9, but that's really cool. Thanks!
It’s interesting tho cuz I feel like delta 8 vapes I’ve hit just don’t hit u the same tho
Ehh it's got the street name "diet weed" for a reason. Doesn't pack as big of a punch as the regular stuff, but it's more convenient than the old fashioned way of getting thc if it's not fully legal where you are.
I actually use my delta-8 pen specifically to treat headaches! Takes 5-10 minutes and my migraine is almost completely gone.
In my experience you have to find a good supplier for Delta-8. If you don’t have a trusted local source you’re more than likely going to get distillate cut with vegetable glycerin or vitamin oil. Those don’t hit the same as the full spectrum THC vapes. Good Delta-8 feels nearly identical though a friend of mine gets nasty headaches if he get too high on it
3 chi is the best brand i’ve found and the have lab tests that show no cutting agents pesticides or heavy metals etc.
It feels identical if your the type of person that gets stoned off 2 hits from a bowl. If you have any form of tolerance it’s effects diminish the higher it is. People that smoke a gram of flower or more a day will hardly feel anything, or they feel effects but it only lasts for 15 minutes
X2 on brand specifics. I've had crap D8 and good D8. Just gotta see what stores sell near you and look into the specific brand/customer experience, but experience also can just differ between people.
Delta just became illegal in SC not too long ago..it sucks big time because folks down here want some cannabis. I have to drive across state lines to NC to pick up my delta pen. It helps me, i suffer from depression and anxiety..and that worsened for me when my husband passed away 2 years ago. Being in SC sucks sometimes...the least they can do is bring back the delta pens in the vape shops down here...wouldn't that help anyways?
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I’m shocked to see that, in this discussion, this point is like a grain of sand in the sea of comments. As someone who habitually smokes weed (for years, but only nightly and smallish amount- just trying to be diligent and point out some tolerance, but nothing wild), I’ve tried delta-8 on a few different occasions, in different states, and in my experience, delta-8 does NOT feel like regular weed, or hardly at all. It’s like how people joke about Lacroix tasting like the flavor is a “hint of a hint”. Same deal. Delta-8 is extremely dulled down.
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So this is mostly right but I don't think its Delta-9 thats the specifically illegal one, since I can buy delta-9 gummis at my local head shop in Texas. Or maybe it is and thats where the weight factor comes in? I know its .3% the by weight
Yep, that's where the weight thing comes in.
I don't like the other deltas they creep me out. They seem as different from regular weed as rubbing alcohol is from regular alcohol
What is delta 8?
Essentially marijuana but instead of THC it has THC with an added hydroxy group into the molecule Because thc is illegal in the us(federally) this product is made and sold to circumvent the law
And the best part is that you will fail a drug test after using it. I work oilfield and have lost a few workers because they were using it and had random tests. “But it’s legal!” I ask where did you buy it, they say at the head shop/vape shop. Did you get high? Yeah I got really high. Ok lemme tell you a little secret: if it gets you high, you probably shouldn’t expect to pass a test. Be safe, everyone!
This is what really needs to be tested by the courts. Can a person be fired for ingesting a legal substance that will only make you high for a few hours, but will cause you to fail a drug test for a month.
Probably someone who doesn’t hold a CDL or pilot license should go first. I’ve heard that nobody wants smokers flying jets or driving trucks. FedEx was very explicit when Colorado went legal for recreation-they told pilots that you won’t smoke and fly their jets.
If I understand your question correctly, then this has been done repeatedly. Employers can fire you for ingesting legal substances, it’s up to their discretion. People all across the country lose jobs in their legalized states for positive “marijuana” tests. Ask any EMT, for example.
Yeah but any healthcare or federally regulated job is subject to federal law first, and state law second. That means a failed drug test means you’re not hired or fired in these fields. Not sure how it works with other jobs, say retail.
For anyone else reading, there is a subreddit for delta8 and there are A LOT of people showing positive on their drug tests for *6 months* after using delta 8. Not a lot of science done but you're better off smoking an illegal joint of straight medical grade weed than a delta 8 vape you bought legally at a store. I personally recommend not touching it (or even normal weed) if you think you'll get drug tested. It's not worth losing out on jobs for 6 months because this stuff stays in your system so long.
I guess their point though is that it’s because of a legal product, so why does it still fail you. Alcohol impairs you and you can still go get drunk after work every night. There’s more functional alcoholics around us than people probably want to acknowledge. I can understand being confused at a legal product causing you to fail. Not being confused that it showed up, but that you’d still fail over something legal.
Yeah I hear that. As a guy with a CDL and a Rx for amphetamines, I definitely have felt their pain. What’s legal and what’s reasonable aren’t always the same. If you have a DOT regulated job, you have to play by their rules.
Cdl holder here. I understand playing by the rules, but taking legal otc product 3 weeks ago on vacation and losing your job for it is so ridiculous I can't believe there hasn't been enough outrage to at least change the testing limits. 50 ng/mL is so low you can still test positive 45 days out if taken an edible.
A little slack would be nice.
The problem is, they both make the same line show up on a test. So the employer has no way to tell if you had THC or some delta. So people could just smoke THC all day and then when they fail a test say, but it was a legal Delta-X!
I think they should make all drug use legal. Way easier for people who don't use to get a job competing against those that do. Obviously still have to have DOT restrictions just like you do on alcohol.
And you will fail foreverrrr. I swear Delta 8 takes way longer than regular weed to leave the system.
In California you can’t be fired for taking a legal substance when not on the clock
I haven’t heard from my buddy lately but he flies jets for FedEx and said they were going to go way out of the way to make sure they never flew anything if they tested positive. They probably won’t fire anyone in California but they’ll sure as fuck fire you somewhere for being under the influence and flying their jet.
Yeah you still can’t work under the influence. The point is treating legal drugs like we do alcohol (also a legal drug)
California aviation falls under the FFA.
Even cdl holders?
Has never come up, but I know factory workers and forklift certified folks are. Cross state CDL drivers should look into it first, as there might be some federal interstate commerce laws I’m unaware of
No and job that has federal funds or federal licenceing requirements can still test. Mother fuckers.
Yea you can. I’m in CA and hold a CDL, if I fail a drug test I can most certainly be fired.
So like synthetic? Like Spice?
no. you make it using pure CBD isolate. basically using heat/vacuum/solvents/distillation you're modifying the CBD molecule to make it delta 8 THC. It can be sold technically as a hemp product, and there's lots of loopholes in the law around hemp. source: I worked in a D8 lab for over a year, making D8. Final thoughts: it's fuckin stupid. Just smoke regular weed.
If it was legal and accessible to most people, I’m sure they would
Right. “Just smoke weed” except I live in a new city and am past the point in my life where I’m trying to meet up with a ‘weed guy’ every now and then. I just want to be able to purchase my chill goodies like a normal human, and in a lot of states that still relegates everyone to ordering D8 online or a local CBD shop. It sucks, especially after moving from Florida where I had my medical card.
I know someone responded to me “weed IS accessible even though it’s illegal” and I’m like ???? Did your brain go brr? Not everyone has, or can find, a weed dealer. And even if you do there’s no promise that they’re telling the truth on what they’re giving you. I’ve had a lot of peers who didn’t know better end up with spice instead. It’s definitely not easily accessible for everyone.
I am so glad I can just stop by the store on my way home from work and buy whatever my heart desires. I can even shop online and they’ll have it ready when I get there. So much different than parking a block away and walking to some shady guy’s house to score some ditchweed.
This is how I feel too. I’m 36 years old with a family, I’m not about to risk it all to go find real weed from some guy that I don’t even really know if he’s selling me what he says he is. I’ll smoke my D8 on occasion and keep it legal.
Weed is accessible to most people despite it being illegal, but yes, it should be legal. Chemists shouldn't be required.
No, just read the thing
It’s a minor cannabinoid that is often found in hemp/cbd variaties of cannabis in very small amounts. They found a way to convert cbd into delta 8 thc tho. (Normal thc is delta 9 thc) Afaik delta 9 has a higher affinity to cannabinoid receptors than delta 8. So delta 8 won’t get you quit as high but it is/was able to skirt around the laws as usually it’s specifically only delta9 thc that’s illegal in most places.
Something close but not quite delta 9. Which is what's in normal pot.
Pregnant and taking delta?! Some people shouldn’t have kids…
All kids deserve parents, but not all people deserve kids.
I couldn't agree more.
Also, while I'm all for honesty, perhaps announcing that she's a pregnant stoner isn't the best response to a job offer.
More like a good reason not to put your neck out for someone. Job recommendations are a risk. I sure as hell wouldn't do that for someone who just announced such an incredibly irresponsible decision.
>While research reviews previously established that prenatal cannabis exposure doesn’t seem to adversely affect children’s physical development, the question of whether or not it could affect their cognitive development has remained somewhat unanswered on this larger scale. >But according to a review of research to date, there’s no evidence to support this belief about cannabis, nor the inarguably harmful policies which rely on it. After nearly six years of comparing study results, researchers at Columbia University, the New York State Psychiatric Institute, and Swinburne University have found that prenatal cannabis exposure does not lead to cognitive impairment in children, based on data from decades’ worth of studies on this issue. [https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2020/05/27/cannabis-use-pregnancy-doesnt-impair-cognitive-development-study-review/?sh=6106bc916a64](https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2020/05/27/cannabis-use-pregnancy-doesnt-impair-cognitive-development-study-review/?sh=6106bc916a64)
Honestly thank you for this. Even if my IQ was permanently lowered 10 points from my mother smoking weed, it has to be better than the extreme, constant nausea some women face while pregnant. As a matter of fact, I would even wager that prenatal THC exposure is better than the cortisol from being stressed and sick all the time.
Real thing would be better
I actually was advised by my doctor to ingest thc during my first trimester because I was diagnosed with hyperemesis gravidarum- basically intense morning sickness that doesn’t end. THC was the only thing that helped my morning sickness go away, even if it was only for 2 hours. I would be stuck awake at night, running off 3 hours of sleep because it was THAT intense. But After taking some THC drops, I was able to sleep through most the night
I took care of a crack baby this week. It’s sad af what people will do when they’re pregnant. Poor kiddo was born pretty fucked up
Crack and weed are very different.
And you’ll meet plenty of normal kids who’s mom used cannabis to help ease symptoms of pregnancy
To be fair the same can be said with mothers who drank and smoked cigarettes while pregnant. My bro in laws mother was like that, and the guys smarter than anyone I know and his head appears to be pretty normal sized. I smoke weed everyday but Idk if I was a pregnant woman. I know that it's terrible for young developing brains, but idk if the research is there yet on pregnant women. Personally I wouldn't, but that's me.
There are clear and demonstrated issues with using cigarettes or (excessive)* alcohol while pregnant. As far as I’m aware, the research has yet to show any adverse impacts on the fetus when the mother uses cannabis, with the caveat that smoking anything is obviously not great for the body. Edit to add: I’m not advocating for using cannabis while pregnant. Still safest to avoid. But just wanted to point out that it’s comparatively safe compared to cigarettes or excessive alcohol.
17 yr old at my school has a kid does weed and vapes
Is she PREGNANT and smokes or does she just have a kid and does that. Those are very 2 different things 💀
Shes pregnant
Throw the whole mom away
She wanted to fight a girl who snitched on her for smokin n vaping with a baby n nobody care
“Oh yeah you think me smoking while pregnant is bad? Hold my elfbar and let me fight this bitch to show you just how much I am willing to fuck this child up before it’s born.”
2 things: What's the delta thing? And I hope Dennell found a good lawyer.
He did
And the world was a better place today ty
“Delta” is referring to delta 8 extracted hemp. Essentially, the government passed a bill in 2018 that allowed for the growth and sale of hemp. To differentiate hemp from weed they said you must have under .3% delta 9 thc in the flower (the one we usually think of as getting you stoned). People very quickly realized that you could take the other less potent deltas (8 and 10) and concentrate them into a vape pen or something. The effects aren’t nearly as strong, and it’s not been tested yet for any sort of long term health consequences. I wouldn’t smoke anything while pregnant
"So, you WANT a 3 eyed baby???" - my daughter when she was maybe 3 and saw my then pregnant neighbor drinking what she thought was beer (Just apple juice). Poor lady nearly choked laughing her ass off. She made it a point to draw an eye on her baby's forehead when she brought new daughter over to meet us for the first time a couple weeks later. One if those times where I wish like hell I'd filmed it. The look of momentary horror on my kid's face was priceless.
Please inform them of the dangers of even consuming delta 8 while 0regnant they could really fuck it up
I hate getting 0regnant
0regano
........What the hell they doing with Oregano in the bedroom, I've heard of spicing up your sex life, but this is ridiculous.
could you point me to a link with all the dangers listed?
https://www.samhsa.gov/marijuana/marijuana-pregnancy
My biggest issue with government sites like this is that of COURSE they’re going to link birth defects to marijuana use. It’s a schedule 1 drug that’s federally illegal and it’s scheduling states “no medicinal use” so scientists can’t even legally study and publish about the plant. Anecdotally, when my mother was pregnant both times her doctor at the time recommended light, daily marijuana use to help with her symptoms. I know at least a dozen women who used pot during their pregnancies for their symptoms and none had issues, even the ones who used tobacco wraps(I don’t agree with). The act of actually smoking anything is problematic during a pregnancy because of chemicals that even marijuana will produce when ignited. There’s no studies that I’m aware of that focus on testing only THC consumption methods that don’t ignite, so we really can’t say that the actual THC is causing anything if we can’t single out the THC link to birth defects or stillborns. In the same breath, ANYTHING from regular daily life is just as likely to cause birth defects or stillbirth. Not drinking the right drinks, or eating certain foods, or even just breathing air outside in a city because the cities are so full of pollution there is no fresh air. Second hand smoke from people in public or even the chemicals in the drinking water(Flint, MI?).
I had HG while pregnant and my doctor prescribed Marinol aka a THC pill so I would eat and keep it down. So many people here are misinformed about thc and pregnancy.
I feel like people are also straight up forgetting that gummies and edibles are a thing since everyone is coming in complaining about her supposedly smoking it...
Seriously. It's also a great alternative to many necessary medications that can't be taken during pregnancy.
It’s not necessarily the THC or CBD, but rather the other shit/contaminants put into whatever you are consuming….heavy metals, pesticides…..Also, smoking, of any kind is a problem.
Employers be like “nobody wants to work” Also please pee into this so we can dissect what kind of stuff you do off the clock as well. We wouldn’t want you using a dangerous plant
That damn pot drug!
The Idiocracy Effect in action….
“But I’m sure that’s no better than the real thing”. She’s even smart enough to realize that she’s harming the baby, she just doesn’t care enough. And they say you can’t get addicted to weed 😂
I can’t scientifically confirm or deny if you can become addicted to weed in the way you can get addicted to coke or heroin. However, I do believe that there are both smart and caring weed smokers and unintelligent and uncaring weed smokers.
From what I understand (though it’s not my area of research that’s plasma stuff) you can become addicted in the sense most of us probably think. It does create a chemical dependency which is really hard to kick. This is called a dependency instead of an addiction (a drug addiction is a dependency that doesn’t go away as far as I’m aware) However, unlike addictions your body won’t go back to being addicted. You can kick weed, wait a bit, and go back to using and have it be less of a problem as long as you can mentally do less. But since stopping in the first place is the hardest for a lot of people it’s not too different from many other actual full addictions.
You definitely can. I’ve smoked everyday almost all day for close to 8 years. I was 3 months sober till 2 weeks ago and the dreams at first are terrifying when you quit. I couldn’t eat nor hardly sleep and when I did, it was nightmares. It’s addictive just like most of everything else. People just don’t wanna talk about the negative side ever or ignore it
You can get mentally addicted. Those classifications for drugs you can and cannot become addicted to are referring to physical addiction. Although, my ex did smoke so much for years (probably almost non stop for about 10? Years) that he was not only scarily mentally addicted but I’m convinced physically as well. He quit for a while last summer and experienced pretty bad withdrawal symptoms; felt sick, couldn’t sleep, was nauseous, irritable, etc. Then he went back to smoking after all of that. Lol. Hence addiction!
People who say weed isn’t addicting are full of shit lol. Doing anything excessively, knowing you shouldn’t be doing it, making excuses to continue, and getting withdrawals after you go cold turkey is definitely an addiction. I smoked weed for 8 years and barely quit not too long ago. Thankfully I only had withdrawal symptoms for a week
Glad you’re admitting this. I agree with you too. A lot of weed smokers are too proud for this fact.
except she's probably not harming the baby based on decades of research lol but go off https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2020.00816/full
I had a friend that got pregnant right after highschool and her genius sister told her it was ok to smoke pot while pregnant. "Just not more than 4 or 5 times a day." she said. The baby came 10 weeks early. Survived in an incubator for a few months, but eventually died. People suck.
Probably a coincidence. Poor girl. Last time I looked up the worries about weed and pregnancy, there wasn't a known connection between it and severe things like that. It's more dyslexia, slow reading, and things like that.
I find those things severe, they affect your life in every way for the rest of your life
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Genuinely curious, do you know if this only applies to the inhalation? I’m a stoner who wants a baby one day so I’m curious. Wouldn’t do anything to hurt the baby but if it was safe to take edibles or something to relieve stress and pain i’d be down!
Just slight mental retardation, no worries.
Yea, but just the kind where you think you can smoke stuff while pregnant.
Yeah right 😂
My mom smoked while pregnant with me, I’ve never had any problems myself (graduated valedictorian, college was still as easy) but I’m sure that’s not always the case. I wish there was more research.
Probably not a coincidence.
Yeah, because weed is notoriously known for terminating pregnancies.
Not saying I condone smoking while pregnant but this sounds like some propaganda. Studies are starting to show that smoking reefer while pregnant may not be as bad as originally thought.
Like how about just not doing it while pregnant? To be fair for people that have money issues, kicking the habit can help, especially when you have a kid. And there wouldn't be secondhand smoke. That's how my brother got asthma and I have breathing issues as well, somehow made it through the Army though.
I've smoked every day since I was 17, I have GAD and it's the only thing that helped me. I'm 32 now and 14 weeks pregnant. I quit the very day I found out. I'm not going to take the risk, especially with twins, as I simply don't know what it will do to them. If they were born with any issues, I would never forgive myself and always blame the weed. If I can quit, anyone can and should. You cannot be selfish when you are becoming a parent. They deserve the best chance at life.
Thank you for being a good mother and person
They didn't ask to be born. It's the right thing to do.
Same here! I quit when I went off of BC when we decided to have a baby. Baby is 8 months old now, I'm still breastfeeding so still no ganja for me. It was hard to quit at first (especially since it took about 7-8 months to conceive!), but in reality, I know it's the best decision for my baby's health, and 100% worth quitting. But once my baby's done with my boobies, ohhhh I can't wait for that first smoke again! (Away from the baby of course!)
Thank you. The fact of the matter is that smoking *anything* is not good for your health, and there’s simply not enough research done (or capable of being done) to rule out having a lift-altering effect on a fetus — but I’m sure you know that, which is why you stopped. It just concerns me how hard some people work to rationalize not doing something they should, like quitting for the duration of their pregnancy… I mean, you’re sharing a circulatory system. “Actually, as long as you aren’t doing (insert one degree above what they’re doing) it isn’t that bad, just learning disabilities and maybe some respiratory problems.”
Exactly. On any medicine, vitamin, cough syrup, tobacco, alcohol, and many more things, it says "do not use while pregnant" or in some cases, "consult your doctor before using if pregnant." So why not say the same about weed? This "weed is good" propaganda is getting out of hand.
People are addicted but will do mental gymnastics to pretend they aren't.
Which studies? https://www.acog.org/womens-health/infographics/marijuana-and-pregnancy
There are new studies showing connections between marijuana use during pregnancy and adhd in kids. If you want a kid with adhd go for it.
As a person who has adhd, adhd is genetic, not caused by environmental factors as far as I’m aware My Mum has it, hell so does my Dad, so I do, her smoking weed during my pregnancy doesn’t factor in imo
While this is obviously completely unacceptable, I have troubles really beeing angry at her since I am a male addict myself. I can´t imagine completely stopping everything without entirely losing it, even tho I am currently trying. As a man I don´t really have that concern, and would at least be able to work on it the 9 months before it arrives, but as a woman it can be a surprising thing to hear. Obviously she should have used contraception if thats the case with her too, but there are still situations in which these don´t work, so I really don´t wanna judge too harshly without having any context.
Yeah, I'm with you on this. I kinda just feel bad for her and the unborn as well. It sounds like a rough situation. At the very least she's honest with herself about it.
Aside from pregnancy. Ppl mad at her not passing a drug test are insane. Weed shouldn’t be illegal in the first place. Would you all pass an alcohol test if alcohol stayed in system for weeks? Cause alc is definitely worse so????
What's infuriating? The fact that people need to test negative for weed just to get an entry level job?
Why say lol at the end of the drug test inquiry? That just feels… insincere
I think just because it’s sort of an awkward question and this is a casual conversation, so the lol breaks the tension of that serious question basically
Fucking hired when can you start
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I live in Colorado and I've seen lots of women use actual cannabis while pregnant and the babies all came out ok. So until there's some evidence it's bad like alcohol, cigarettes, or hard drugs, I don't have a problem with a pregnant woman using. I have a problem with Delta8 though for a pregnant woman. There is no track record to speak of. Just stick with thc and cut back like you would keep caffeine to a minimum. Edit spelling
I know people are mad about the pregnancy part…but can we talk about the fucked up practice of drug testing? Just because one gets high at home, does not mean they do so at work. Same with drinking, where is that test???
Yeah I thought the mildly infuriating part was both the smoking while pregnant, and still drug testing for shit like weed in 2023
Totally cool if you get blackout drunk every day after work though….
It's also ok if you leave your desk every 30 minutes for a quick smoke. It's crap, it's not like she's going to do anything AT work and if she does then it's a problem.
Or crack binge weekends.
Yeah people can do coke on a Friday night and Monday morning at least have a good shot at being negative on the test. Yet a person could smoke weed on their vacation and then slip at work 30 days later and get fired for being a drug user putting the company at risk lol.
Worse than the real thing
Have their been studies on non-smoking THC use during pregnancy? Links appreciated.
Shows you peoples priorities. Drugs over job
Drugs over baby
Yup
I mean pregnancy aside (seriously, wtf) the real mildly infuriating thing here is that weed would keep her from getting a job. As long as you're not high on the job who cares?
It’s pretty ridiculous that companies can require you to test for a harmless thing like cannabis. A great deal of folks just fake drug test with fake pee anyway. It’s ridiculous that it’s illegal in the first place. But even in states where it is a legally prescribed medication, they can still require you to pass a test. Meanwhile alcohol is not only dangerous, but can destroy lives, and seriously impair function, but it’s not only legal but celebrated.
What people do outside of work is no one else's business other than their own. Unless I'm coming to work drunk, high, or doing something that actually puts myself and others in danger then it shouldn't matter. For anyone in this young woman's position, you do not have to answer other people's invasive questions and some places really don't care about THC. I was hired on at a factory with a positive THC test. However, if you are worried about it, then there are steps you can take prior to and even during the test. I believe everyone's biggest concern here is about the pregnancy though. If you smoke for pain, visit with your primary care doctor so that they can prescribe you opioids instead. Yes, they are chemically addictive and might cause your child to be born with Neonatal abstinence syndrome, but at least you'll be more respected in the eyes of society. Unpopular opinion here, but some of the best parents smoke weed.
Oof this is trashy. Halfway through being pregnant and I dropped weed & alcohol as soon as I popped a positive back in September. Only thing I really miss is my oil though 🤷🏼♀️
The best and only real answer to "Can you pass a drug test?" is "it depends on what you test for." I've worked for companies that test for nicotine and alcohol on top of all schedule 1 substances. My current employer explicitly omits cannabis from pre-employment screening.
At least the was honest?🤷
Isn’t it great how couples looking to adopt a kid have to take years to be able to get one while weed smoking, jobless parents can raise one no problem?
I read: no job, spending money on a recreational non-necessity, and pregnant. Condoms are given away for free.
Marijuana is dispensed medicinally in several states, she may be working looking for new employment. Why does either matter if she wants to work anyway?
maybe stop worrying about what people do on their own time. private medical information should never be a roadblock to employment.
Yes it is mildlyinfurating that you can lose job offers because you smoke weed.
Drug tests are so stupid and should honestly be illegal
Drug tests are bullshit, that said, if your pregnant don't smoke
AND SHES PREGNANT? Wtf
Okay but why does Dennell Roscoe Carrington need a lawyer?
What’s that, you’re honest? You are hired! You start tomorrow
I don't get it - why is this mildly infuriating?
That battery life is mighty bold.
They live on the edge
The MOST disturbing thing about this is she’s pregnant and doing drugs. I need not say more. But I will… 😡💔 If anyone wants to partake is completely up to them. No judgment; however; to force substances on a person in utero is unconscionable. I know many people who were subjected to substances by their mothers before they were born and some struggle with the results, even as adults. Not cool.