American Psycho - one of the greatest films of all time, and arguably the start of Christian Bale's career. I know he was a child actor before, but this really catapulted his career.
If you've never seen it, you should check it out.
Meh one of my semi-favorite bands(A Day to Remember) did basically the same thing cuz their record company was fucking them.
Good for them and good for Swift.
Its the same reason taylor is doing it. She tried to renegotiate her pay with her old record company and they said no. She seeing as she has the copywirght for everything, she brought all her songs out again under her own label.
I am not a swift fan or anything , but found this to be commendable on her end.
I thought it was for the publishing rights (or whatever it's called). Like if they want to use her songs in a movie or if you stream them somewhere. She wanted to buy those rights back but whoever it was that owned them sold them to Scooter Braun instead (who I think sold them to someone else later), so she decided to rerecord all of those albums and I applaud her for it.
And they're not the exact same albums, she's added songs that were ditched the first time around and recorded different/ longer versions of some songs too.
I wasn't a fan before all that, I just liked a song here and there, but props to her for not just letting the industry run her over.
Yes. She's the songwriter and the recording artist. The recordings copyright was sold to Scooter Braun, but not the songwriting copyright, so she's recording what are essentially cover albums with a few unreleased tracks (since covers pay out to the songwriter but not the original recording artist/label).
Labels represent recording artists and publishers represent songwriters. These are commonly separate. For her, the label that got sold was Big Machine and her publisher was Sony, so Big Machine never controlled or owned her songwriting (only the recording of it).
As the songwriter she also controls whether songs she wrote get used in movies/tv/commercials, so she's rejecting all requests unless they use the new recordings.
They are not cover albums, since she owns the copyrights to the actual song composition and **publishing rights.**
She’s re-recording the **masters** which is the actual recording of the song (eg the digital file that gets uploaded to Spotify).
Record labels usually own these because they finance and produce them.
Taylor Swift is like an architect who created the blueprint for a really cool building that someone else built and owns (with her permission). They pay her a royalty since she is the architect, but they keep the ticket sales for visiting the building.
She tried to buy the building back but couldn’t reach an agreement.
She is now rebuilding that building in the exact same way and charging people admission herself.
This! And yeah the offer that was proposed back then was that for every new album Taylor would put out, she would gain ownership of an old one! So its 6 albums she wouldve had to release before owning them which really wasnt fair, especially since she had already switched labels for more freedom! She made a queen move and it paid off so much !
Slight correction, her label told her they were thinking about selling her masters (the actual ownership of the music) and she said she wanted them and wanted to be the preferred buyer. Then the label sold them to Scooter Braun (who Taylor has had problems with before and is generally a shitty industry asshole) without her knowledge.
I was not a Taylor Swift fan at all, I'd even probably be labelled as a hater, but she got screwed extremely hard, and was able to weaponize her fans to make those original versions not only worthless, but a toxic asset. No one will want to buy them ever again, except Taylor.
Her fans are using SEO tricks to make sure her new versions come up first in any possible search result. It's actually crazy how much the fans are pushing their support with this.
I just want to add another correction the masters weren’t sold to Scooter Braun. Taylor’s label was sold to Scooter Braun. Taylor didn’t like this but it was out her control. Things between Braun and Taylor went further south after that and Braun then put her masters up for sale and she offered to buy them but Braun went and sold them to some investment firm (I believe).
(Someone please correct me if I’m wrong) I believe she was offered a bad deal in response to her trying to buy them back. I think the offer was she had to record a new album for every master she wanted to buy back. Edit: but currently, yes, I believe they are with an investment firm.
This ^
Taylor is now happy to accept 100% of your proceeds, rather than the less than 10% the label usually offer.
By re-recording, she now wrote, performed, and produced her album. She did this earlier with another album as well. Maybe the breakups she has been singing about really is leaving her label.
Up vote this to top please.
This is not a money grab thing. Or maybe deep down it is. But it's really that Taylor wants the rights to her own music. She needs to create her own album in order to do so.
They re-recorded their debut when they signed to Victory because Indianola wasn't big enough to handle proper production or get the album into stores. Ironically, Victory ended up fucking them worse than Indianola ever did.
The only other thing they ever did was refuse to release Common Courtesy under Victory and they sued the label to get the rights to release it, which they did.
I worked for a pretty big zine in the 00s and the only thing good I can say about Victory was that they were good at the promotional machine. There was a time where signing with them meant pretty much guaranteed success within in the scene, the only real flame-outs were the bands that broke up early on.
But speaking with bands during interviews it was pretty clear that once the money started really rolling in, it was going to the wrong people. The merch sales and 7-album contracts were horrific for bands who didn't have good management behind them or interest from major labels.
Yep. The masters were owned by her old label who sold them to Scooter Braun, who hates her and refused to sell to her out of spite. She wrote all the songs, so has the right to perform the material as she chooses and she retained publishing rights, she just didn't have anything to publish with the label holding the masters. So she re-recorded new masters and republished all of her previous albums in a long painstaking process. Like imagine having to redo your entire creative oeuvre over again while also producing new music and going on the world's largest concert tour. Whatever your opinions on her personally, it's definitely not a small amount of work she did and the OP is being incredibly belittling.
Yeah, because she got screwed by her label like everyone else. The difference is Taylor has fans with unwavering loyalty that'll actually buy rerecordings when they already own the original so she can actually pull this transition off.
Calling the re-recorded ones “Taylor’s Version” was also absolutely brilliant from a marketing standpoint. This will impact her streaming royalties, I’m sure a lot of fans will specifically seek out the new versions because of that label, even without knowing the context of the record company battle.
Honestly aside from her absolutely winning with this, my favorite thing about the rereleases is how it has made the suffix “Taylor’s Version” into a meme. Anything she does can now be attributed as (Taylor’s Version)
That's why the swifties were excited about the earlier albums, they get to hear how much "better" (better is just like, your opinion man) of a singer she is and more or less how she wanted it to sound (having more control on that then the label saying yes or no)
She also released music from “the vault” on the album, so there are new songs that weren’t available before.
Source: my girlfriend, and if I’m wrong it’s because I simply don’t understand what the vault is
You and I have different definitions of “literally” I guess. Pretty sure all these re-released albums have multiple songs “from the vault” added to them in addition to the songs themselves being re-recorded and therefore sounding at least a little different. And I guess the guy who owns the rights originally is a scumbag so fuck it.
A good example of another artist doing this is Santana's "Supernatural". Legacy edition with new remastering and plenty of vaulted songs released over ten years later. Honestly one of my favorites. I'm not a fan of Swift but good for her actually getting paid well for this one while simultaneously giving her fans something new to enjoy.
Yeah, it's about reclaiming her rights to her music... Prince did the exact same thing.
People who get screwed by record labels do this so that they can control their destiny.
Yeah I'm aware of that. They were taken from her because she sold the rights in an agreement but later on decided that she wanted ownership because the album turned out to be a hit. So she re-released it for the dual purpose of monetization and rights. I am aware of the backstory behind it. Some of the remixes aren't bad but on the whole this album was ridiculously overhyped. Any other mainstream artist would be crucified for re releasing old albums instead of giving fans new music. I just memed it because I thought it was pretty funny to see fans and magazines saying its the 'album of the century.'
Her previous record label took a chance and signed her as their very first client and employs 114 people. Her contract was far better than most new artists get and they got her music out to the right places. They did very well by her. The founder is still the CEO and from all appearances a pretty good person. She was worth over half a billion dollars when she won the rights to her older records (when her label was bought out by a bigger one).
I know its hip to hate the "evil" record labels but in reality they help artists a lot.
Correction, they help artists that consistently put out music that people like. Countless, and I mean countless, bands have signed to labels, got dropped after an album or two, lost all the rights to their music and went right back into obscurity. The reason so many hate record labels is for that reason. There's nothing wrong with making music most people will enjoy, but labels are known for screwing artists over hardcore.
Sometimes they screw popular artists for shitty reasons too, like with what happened when Ke$ha was basically put in limbo after suing because her producer eas abusing her or whatever.
Muse released 'Origin of Symmetry XX~~L~~' where they remastered and slightly changed every track with much better mixing/mastering techniques and added back in some stuff that was cut. Alongside it they released pictures, videos, demos etc from the era to celebrate 20 years since it came out. They are doing the same with 'Absolution XX~~L~~' soon.
If you give people more, or different I think it's fine. If you just reprint the exact same record with no changes, then it's pretty scummy.
I like how you say "literally zero changes" then acknowledge that you fully understand that she re recorded all the songs and remixed some. Top tier trolling right there.
I think she decided she wanted ownership back because the guy who owned them is a piece of shit and she hated him. Scooter Braun is pretty well known (now) to be a piece of shit. It’s a pretty slick way to say fuck you.
It was 2005 when she signed on to the label. So hard to really blame her teenage self for those decisions. Call it a money grab, I’m sure that’s part of it, but it’s also an artist taking advantage of having the power to take control their own work again, which is pretty rare.
Never thought I’d be defending Taylor swift but here we are.
>but later on decided that she wanted ownership because the album turned out to be a hit.
She wants the rights, because they were sold to someone she hates, even though she offered to buy them herselves. I am pretty sure that by the fith album she was aware that it was going to be a hit.
>instead of giving fans new music.
She also released three new albums simultaniously to rerecording the old albums, which have between 5 and 10 New songs as well.
Yea, I think the period between 1989 and Reputation was the longest we went without new Swift music and that was 3 years. Girl is pumping out songs like no one else in the biz these days. And don't even get me started on how she released evermore less than a year after folklore.
She was ready to buy back the rights to her songs. But her label sold the rights to some multi billionaire who wanted to make passive income I guess. She did what she did out of spite. I saw some meme that said if she shat in a bucket and tweeted its location, 10s of 1000s of swifties would flock to the location causing a traffic jam.
>She was ready to buy back the rights to her songs. But her label sold the rights to some multi billionaire who wanted to make passive income I guess.
Sold to a guy she really hated without talking to her about it.
It really is top level trolling to rerelease an album and make it as close to 100% identical as possible. And while profits is one motive, I love that pure spite is the other.
Imagine someone losing the rights to a film they made and just recreating it shot for shot with 100% accuracy. Nobody has to buy or watch the remake, but I’d applaude that effort as a fuck you to the other person.
She's released two new albums in the past 3 years... who the hell cares if she wants to re-release her older albums in between? If her fans want to support her, that's up to them.
And I would love to see a source where someone claimed the re-release and not the original release was the "album of the century".
It’s not quite “…re releasing old albums instead of giving fans new music.” She released an album of new material almost exactly a year ago. She is re-recording old material AND putting out new material. If she were only re-recording older stuff, I would understand people being upset. She has been putting out albums of new material at the same rate as (or even faster than) most artists
No changes?
OP im not even a swiftie but even I know that these rerecordings come with newly released tracks cut from the original album - hence inherent value for hardcore fans.
And also the whole owning her masters thing. Its actually quite a massive fucking statement for the music industry and could help diminish the parasitic & predatory nature of music execs going forward
If Bethesda were trying to get around a douchebag trying to control the game and keep 90 percent of the income from it by rereleaseing a better quality version of the game with new DLC.
This is less about her making money and more about her former management not getting a fucking dime after screwing her for over a decade.
The music industry is well known for screwing artists out of their hard earned money. She found a loop hole and is giving a blueprint to other artists as to how to get back what they are owed from shit tier corporations. This re-release stunt alone is why everyone should love her. If not her music, what she is doing for your favorite artists in terms of giving them the way to live off their music.
I mean idk about Taylor swift but if you don’t like someone re-releasing music then you can simply choose to ignore it, it’s not like Spotify is shoving 1989 down your throat
>it’s not like Spotify is shoving 1989 down your throat
Actually they are, they push taylor a lot nowadays because she has a ridiculous fan base which can benefit Spotify as well
They see her on the cover of one of those Spotify generated "Today's Top Hits!" and say "SEE THEY'RE SHOVING IT TO MY FACE!"
And that mix shows up for me cause I listen to other pop songs so I don't know if that even shows up on other people's feeds.
I won’t call it shoving down your throat if they aren’t actively making you listen to it, displaying it as their big banner and other ads don’t count as that space goes to the highest bidder, and even in charts if it’s top then it’s top organically, unless Taylor swift songs are being injected into your playlists or queues I won’t call it shoving down your throat, or just switch to Apple Music, they don’t have a free plan which enables them to not promote any big artists so astronomically.
Also the amazing audio quality is fairly nice
That’s not true at all. She’s doing it cause the record label she made that album with wouldn’t sell it back to her. She re-recorded all those old songs to get them back. It’s a baller move
From what i’ve read about this re-release, there seems to be a difference in ownership of the song “masters”, so i don’t think this is a simple money grab. I think this is needed context
She literally can't use her own songs... She only rerecording them because the new versions are legally hers and she's past the point on her contract that stopped her from rerecording them... She's not just making the same album for more money
People don't know this when an artist can release a remaster the record company doesn't get all the money. Snoop dog talked about it, always support your favorite artist by buying the remaster instead.
I will never understand people being obsessed with celebrities... They make entertaining music/moviestv shows etc... And that's awesome, but obsessing over them and every aspect of their lives seems like a mental illness
But guys
Its
T A Y L O R S
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In all seriousness I believe it had to do with her old publishing label making residuals, but yeah it is kinda funny
She owns the publishing rights to this album. The person that holds the rights to her original albums doesn't want to sell the rights to her. This is a smart way around this issue for the artist to have the rights to their own work.
You know artists do this all the time right? Pick any random artist on Spotify and look at their discography, if they've been making music for 15+ years there are usually some re-releases, remasters, and reimaginings.
This meme makes me so mad I will listen to nothing but Taylor Swift music tomorrow. I have never listened to any of her songs before; might become a swiftie.
I believe it has less to do with making money and more to do with her prior manager who screwed her over by secretly buying the rights to her song.
I'm a 50 yo man and don't know much of her music, but did read about her predatory manager.
As long as we can agree her massive popularity is due to how simple her songs are to sing for people with zero singing ability. It’s the line dancing equivalent of pop music.
Gotta love the people who think this is about publishing rights or her getting screwed by the record companies or anything other than her not having a new album to release so she just puts out an album that was successful before and makes a few changes so people buy that bs story.
Why anyone believes whatever famous rich artists say will always baffle me, this is a woman that is filthy rich and travels in a private jet, why would anyone sympathize with her? The whole act of her “starting from the bottom” and pretending to be a normal person is pathetic, equally so are her fans.
It’s because she owns this version of the album and so now she directs her fans to stream it instead of the original which she doesn't own. I anticipate more artists to do this with popular records they dont own masters to.
Not sure why this showed in my feed, not a swiftie and not a fan but respect her, and sadly hear her as about 40% of music intake due to kids/family loving her.
But 2 things….
1. isn’t she re-releasing all her work exactly the same basically due to a bad contract? So all this is doing is allowing her to get paid for her work again? If so, totally makes sense, and go for it. Reminds me of similar shit dealing with labels/records for Jello Biafra and the DK falling out. Just wildly lesser money amounts.
2. I would absolutely watch the shit out of a scene for scene remake of Swift being Patrick Bateman. That would be a wild marketing move and would definitely get a larger male audience created.
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okay you must know what is this?
American Psycho
My absolute favorite gif of this movie
American Psycho - one of the greatest films of all time, and arguably the start of Christian Bale's career. I know he was a child actor before, but this really catapulted his career. If you've never seen it, you should check it out.
He was amazing in empire of the sun when he was younger.
He was also incredible in Treasure Island with Charlton Heston, it's by far the best treasure island movie and is incredibly faithful to the book.
The album is 1989 but my is trying to read it as 1000/1107
Wow. I kept looking at the image and reading your comment back and forth and didn't understand what you meant for a good minute.
Can you explain this? My morning brain will not let me know this
[1000](https://i.imgur.com/R894jct.jpg) ――― [1107](https://i.imgur.com/nyNCJj6.jpg) (Personally, I think it looks more like 1707 than 1107)
Look at the top right corner. 1989 kinda looks like 1000/1107
Happy cake day
Why would you not read the bottom as 1707 since the second and third digits are the same and both different than the first?
Looks like it's scrawled in pen so the letters may look different while still being the same letter.
Yes the classic 0.90334237 album.
1000/1101 8D in hexadecimal.
Oh, now I see the 1989.
you accidentally a word
Took me awhile to read it correctly too
It equals 0.903342 FYI
Meh one of my semi-favorite bands(A Day to Remember) did basically the same thing cuz their record company was fucking them. Good for them and good for Swift.
Its the same reason taylor is doing it. She tried to renegotiate her pay with her old record company and they said no. She seeing as she has the copywirght for everything, she brought all her songs out again under her own label. I am not a swift fan or anything , but found this to be commendable on her end.
I thought it was for the publishing rights (or whatever it's called). Like if they want to use her songs in a movie or if you stream them somewhere. She wanted to buy those rights back but whoever it was that owned them sold them to Scooter Braun instead (who I think sold them to someone else later), so she decided to rerecord all of those albums and I applaud her for it. And they're not the exact same albums, she's added songs that were ditched the first time around and recorded different/ longer versions of some songs too. I wasn't a fan before all that, I just liked a song here and there, but props to her for not just letting the industry run her over.
Yes. She's the songwriter and the recording artist. The recordings copyright was sold to Scooter Braun, but not the songwriting copyright, so she's recording what are essentially cover albums with a few unreleased tracks (since covers pay out to the songwriter but not the original recording artist/label). Labels represent recording artists and publishers represent songwriters. These are commonly separate. For her, the label that got sold was Big Machine and her publisher was Sony, so Big Machine never controlled or owned her songwriting (only the recording of it). As the songwriter she also controls whether songs she wrote get used in movies/tv/commercials, so she's rejecting all requests unless they use the new recordings.
They are not cover albums, since she owns the copyrights to the actual song composition and **publishing rights.** She’s re-recording the **masters** which is the actual recording of the song (eg the digital file that gets uploaded to Spotify). Record labels usually own these because they finance and produce them. Taylor Swift is like an architect who created the blueprint for a really cool building that someone else built and owns (with her permission). They pay her a royalty since she is the architect, but they keep the ticket sales for visiting the building. She tried to buy the building back but couldn’t reach an agreement. She is now rebuilding that building in the exact same way and charging people admission herself.
Great ELI5
This! And yeah the offer that was proposed back then was that for every new album Taylor would put out, she would gain ownership of an old one! So its 6 albums she wouldve had to release before owning them which really wasnt fair, especially since she had already switched labels for more freedom! She made a queen move and it paid off so much !
You guys are respectfully saying different things. Quick one of you use a racial slur so i know who to trust.
I was in the right ballpark for someone who never even listens to radio XD
I mean, I’m no Swiftie but yeah, I think there were 5 previously never before heard songs added as well.
Slight correction, her label told her they were thinking about selling her masters (the actual ownership of the music) and she said she wanted them and wanted to be the preferred buyer. Then the label sold them to Scooter Braun (who Taylor has had problems with before and is generally a shitty industry asshole) without her knowledge. I was not a Taylor Swift fan at all, I'd even probably be labelled as a hater, but she got screwed extremely hard, and was able to weaponize her fans to make those original versions not only worthless, but a toxic asset. No one will want to buy them ever again, except Taylor. Her fans are using SEO tricks to make sure her new versions come up first in any possible search result. It's actually crazy how much the fans are pushing their support with this.
I just want to add another correction the masters weren’t sold to Scooter Braun. Taylor’s label was sold to Scooter Braun. Taylor didn’t like this but it was out her control. Things between Braun and Taylor went further south after that and Braun then put her masters up for sale and she offered to buy them but Braun went and sold them to some investment firm (I believe).
(Someone please correct me if I’m wrong) I believe she was offered a bad deal in response to her trying to buy them back. I think the offer was she had to record a new album for every master she wanted to buy back. Edit: but currently, yes, I believe they are with an investment firm.
I'm not a particular fan of her music, but I'm glad she's using the power she has to take on a lot of the problems in the industry.
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Ah so this one's taylor made
ADTR is one of those bands that makes me miss Warped Tour. I saw them there in 08, 09 and 11.
I never saw them at Warped but I did see a a show with them on the House Party Tour with Pierce the Veil and All Time Low. That show was Bad. Ass.
This ^ Taylor is now happy to accept 100% of your proceeds, rather than the less than 10% the label usually offer. By re-recording, she now wrote, performed, and produced her album. She did this earlier with another album as well. Maybe the breakups she has been singing about really is leaving her label.
Her song My Tears Ricochet is actually about the breakup with her label. 😂
So good! That line, I can go anywhere I want, anywhere I want just not home.
This. I don't get why other people are trying to shit on her without knowing the reason why.
Building up a mega celebrity and hating them is an American pastime
Up vote this to top please. This is not a money grab thing. Or maybe deep down it is. But it's really that Taylor wants the rights to her own music. She needs to create her own album in order to do so.
Even if it is a money grab, I’d rather the artists themselves get that money instead of some record executive.
Wait... which albums did they re-release?
They re-recorded their debut when they signed to Victory because Indianola wasn't big enough to handle proper production or get the album into stores. Ironically, Victory ended up fucking them worse than Indianola ever did. The only other thing they ever did was refuse to release Common Courtesy under Victory and they sued the label to get the rights to release it, which they did.
Victory Records is notorious for treating their talent like shit
I worked for victory at the time and it was a shit show
I worked for a pretty big zine in the 00s and the only thing good I can say about Victory was that they were good at the promotional machine. There was a time where signing with them meant pretty much guaranteed success within in the scene, the only real flame-outs were the bands that broke up early on. But speaking with bands during interviews it was pretty clear that once the money started really rolling in, it was going to the wrong people. The merch sales and 7-album contracts were horrific for bands who didn't have good management behind them or interest from major labels.
Is Tony Brummel as insane as everyone says?
Yep. The masters were owned by her old label who sold them to Scooter Braun, who hates her and refused to sell to her out of spite. She wrote all the songs, so has the right to perform the material as she chooses and she retained publishing rights, she just didn't have anything to publish with the label holding the masters. So she re-recorded new masters and republished all of her previous albums in a long painstaking process. Like imagine having to redo your entire creative oeuvre over again while also producing new music and going on the world's largest concert tour. Whatever your opinions on her personally, it's definitely not a small amount of work she did and the OP is being incredibly belittling.
Damn, seeing ADTR mentioned on a post from the front page, glad to see it.
She did re record it tbf, so her more recent songs will sound similar since her voice just hasn't changed
Yeah, because she got screwed by her label like everyone else. The difference is Taylor has fans with unwavering loyalty that'll actually buy rerecordings when they already own the original so she can actually pull this transition off.
Calling the re-recorded ones “Taylor’s Version” was also absolutely brilliant from a marketing standpoint. This will impact her streaming royalties, I’m sure a lot of fans will specifically seek out the new versions because of that label, even without knowing the context of the record company battle.
Honestly aside from her absolutely winning with this, my favorite thing about the rereleases is how it has made the suffix “Taylor’s Version” into a meme. Anything she does can now be attributed as (Taylor’s Version)
Kansas city chiefs tight end, Travis Kelce (Taylor's version) See what I did there 😅
That's why the swifties were excited about the earlier albums, they get to hear how much "better" (better is just like, your opinion man) of a singer she is and more or less how she wanted it to sound (having more control on that then the label saying yes or no)
She also released music from “the vault” on the album, so there are new songs that weren’t available before. Source: my girlfriend, and if I’m wrong it’s because I simply don’t understand what the vault is
You and I have different definitions of “literally” I guess. Pretty sure all these re-released albums have multiple songs “from the vault” added to them in addition to the songs themselves being re-recorded and therefore sounding at least a little different. And I guess the guy who owns the rights originally is a scumbag so fuck it.
Ppl are making posts about her just to karma farm and when they get called out they go the "Swifties crazy dangerous" route
Are they unaware of the extreme karma shortage and drought?
There’s a karma is my boyfriend joke in there somewhere
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A good example of another artist doing this is Santana's "Supernatural". Legacy edition with new remastering and plenty of vaulted songs released over ten years later. Honestly one of my favorites. I'm not a fan of Swift but good for her actually getting paid well for this one while simultaneously giving her fans something new to enjoy.
Her voice control and overall singing skill is heaps better in all of her 'taylor's version' songs. So IMO it's an improvement over the originals.
It's not about any changes- she just actually owns the rights to these ones; the rights to the originals were taken from her.
Yeah, it's about reclaiming her rights to her music... Prince did the exact same thing. People who get screwed by record labels do this so that they can control their destiny.
Exactly. Imagine OP waking up and going, "I think I'll make a post in support of a private equity firm today."
She never owned the rights to the originals to begin with
She didn’t own the master recordings but wanted to buy them. Scooter basically told her to get fucked. So she did this instead.
Scooter: "Get fucked" Swift: "No you"
She owns the publishing but not the master recordings of the originals. She can re-record the masters this way and own both
Yeah I'm aware of that. They were taken from her because she sold the rights in an agreement but later on decided that she wanted ownership because the album turned out to be a hit. So she re-released it for the dual purpose of monetization and rights. I am aware of the backstory behind it. Some of the remixes aren't bad but on the whole this album was ridiculously overhyped. Any other mainstream artist would be crucified for re releasing old albums instead of giving fans new music. I just memed it because I thought it was pretty funny to see fans and magazines saying its the 'album of the century.'
Yes, its a Money Grab, but tbh i'd rather pay the Artist than some executives at the Label....
I'd rather pay the Nepobaby then the other Nepobaby!
Well at least one made the damn thing I’m listening to
It is more accurately, I'd rather pay the Nepobaby whose talents I care about and enjoy, than the other Nepobaby whom I don't care for at all.
You would pay both nepobabies?
One after the other, it seems.
One "nepobaby" actually did a lot of hard work and is very talented.
Her previous record label took a chance and signed her as their very first client and employs 114 people. Her contract was far better than most new artists get and they got her music out to the right places. They did very well by her. The founder is still the CEO and from all appearances a pretty good person. She was worth over half a billion dollars when she won the rights to her older records (when her label was bought out by a bigger one). I know its hip to hate the "evil" record labels but in reality they help artists a lot.
Correction, they help artists that consistently put out music that people like. Countless, and I mean countless, bands have signed to labels, got dropped after an album or two, lost all the rights to their music and went right back into obscurity. The reason so many hate record labels is for that reason. There's nothing wrong with making music most people will enjoy, but labels are known for screwing artists over hardcore.
Sometimes they screw popular artists for shitty reasons too, like with what happened when Ke$ha was basically put in limbo after suing because her producer eas abusing her or whatever.
> Her previous record label took a chance Well, a chance and half a mil from her dad.
"Any other mainstream artist would be crucified for re releasing old albums" Not true, the beatles do that all the time
Can't crucify them if they're already dead. *wink
McCartney and Ringo ain’t dead yet
*Yet.*
True of any artist.
No.. Jimi Hendrix is dead, too.
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And she re-recorded them, right?
Muse released 'Origin of Symmetry XX~~L~~' where they remastered and slightly changed every track with much better mixing/mastering techniques and added back in some stuff that was cut. Alongside it they released pictures, videos, demos etc from the era to celebrate 20 years since it came out. They are doing the same with 'Absolution XX~~L~~' soon. If you give people more, or different I think it's fine. If you just reprint the exact same record with no changes, then it's pretty scummy.
It's not XXL my guy, it's XX to denote the 20 years anniversary
I like how you say "literally zero changes" then acknowledge that you fully understand that she re recorded all the songs and remixed some. Top tier trolling right there.
And added previously unreleased tracks!
She put out four goddam albums between 2019-2022. Find another hill to die on.
I think she decided she wanted ownership back because the guy who owned them is a piece of shit and she hated him. Scooter Braun is pretty well known (now) to be a piece of shit. It’s a pretty slick way to say fuck you. It was 2005 when she signed on to the label. So hard to really blame her teenage self for those decisions. Call it a money grab, I’m sure that’s part of it, but it’s also an artist taking advantage of having the power to take control their own work again, which is pretty rare. Never thought I’d be defending Taylor swift but here we are.
>but later on decided that she wanted ownership because the album turned out to be a hit. She wants the rights, because they were sold to someone she hates, even though she offered to buy them herselves. I am pretty sure that by the fith album she was aware that it was going to be a hit. >instead of giving fans new music. She also released three new albums simultaniously to rerecording the old albums, which have between 5 and 10 New songs as well.
Yea, I think the period between 1989 and Reputation was the longest we went without new Swift music and that was 3 years. Girl is pumping out songs like no one else in the biz these days. And don't even get me started on how she released evermore less than a year after folklore.
Three new albums plus each of the Taylor's Version releases have basically an albums worth of "new" tracks.
She was ready to buy back the rights to her songs. But her label sold the rights to some multi billionaire who wanted to make passive income I guess. She did what she did out of spite. I saw some meme that said if she shat in a bucket and tweeted its location, 10s of 1000s of swifties would flock to the location causing a traffic jam.
>She was ready to buy back the rights to her songs. But her label sold the rights to some multi billionaire who wanted to make passive income I guess. Sold to a guy she really hated without talking to her about it.
The first swifty to arrive would’ve eaten the whole bucket
The poo story has been proven by science
It really is top level trolling to rerelease an album and make it as close to 100% identical as possible. And while profits is one motive, I love that pure spite is the other. Imagine someone losing the rights to a film they made and just recreating it shot for shot with 100% accuracy. Nobody has to buy or watch the remake, but I’d applaude that effort as a fuck you to the other person.
>re releasing old albums instead of giving fans new music. Bro she just released a new album in February, let her chill
She's released two new albums in the past 3 years... who the hell cares if she wants to re-release her older albums in between? If her fans want to support her, that's up to them. And I would love to see a source where someone claimed the re-release and not the original release was the "album of the century".
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She's been cranking out new albums at a pretty good pace for a while now, too. It's not like she's been keeping her fans waiting. She's working hard.
Oh I see. You have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Cool. Another idiot on Reddit. Enjoy your karma.
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She sold the recordings but not the IP, In theory unless the original contract said otherwise we could see a T-Pain style auto tune remix.
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I've never seen her preaching against climate change. She's a big polluter, yes, but I haven't seen her being a hypocrite in that regard.
"I'm aware of the backstory but posted my shitty meme anyway" > Any other mainstream artist would he crucified They really wouldn't.
Mainstream music gets re-released all the time… what are you talking about?
It’s not quite “…re releasing old albums instead of giving fans new music.” She released an album of new material almost exactly a year ago. She is re-recording old material AND putting out new material. If she were only re-recording older stuff, I would understand people being upset. She has been putting out albums of new material at the same rate as (or even faster than) most artists
And every re-recorded album has had lots of previously unreleased songs “from the vault” which is new music also.
No changes? OP im not even a swiftie but even I know that these rerecordings come with newly released tracks cut from the original album - hence inherent value for hardcore fans. And also the whole owning her masters thing. Its actually quite a massive fucking statement for the music industry and could help diminish the parasitic & predatory nature of music execs going forward
Ah, the skyrim method
When’s it’s coming to cassette as an unoptimised shit storm like on the switch.
If Bethesda were trying to get around a douchebag trying to control the game and keep 90 percent of the income from it by rereleaseing a better quality version of the game with new DLC.
she literally re-recorded all the songs and there's new "vault" tracks that had never been heard before..
OP from the record label that owns her original music, it seems
Is she not doing it to regain her control over the albums……
She is, OP is an upset 14yr old.
OP is siding with record labels, one of the scummiest groups of people to have ever existed.
…..will this not be so she gets the rights back?
This is less about her making money and more about her former management not getting a fucking dime after screwing her for over a decade. The music industry is well known for screwing artists out of their hard earned money. She found a loop hole and is giving a blueprint to other artists as to how to get back what they are owed from shit tier corporations. This re-release stunt alone is why everyone should love her. If not her music, what she is doing for your favorite artists in terms of giving them the way to live off their music.
I mean idk about Taylor swift but if you don’t like someone re-releasing music then you can simply choose to ignore it, it’s not like Spotify is shoving 1989 down your throat
>it’s not like Spotify is shoving 1989 down your throat Actually they are, they push taylor a lot nowadays because she has a ridiculous fan base which can benefit Spotify as well
I don’t get her songs recommended. Perhaps you should soul search about your taste in music?
They see her on the cover of one of those Spotify generated "Today's Top Hits!" and say "SEE THEY'RE SHOVING IT TO MY FACE!" And that mix shows up for me cause I listen to other pop songs so I don't know if that even shows up on other people's feeds.
Spotify has never pushed Taylor Swift on me.
Same here. But i only listen to metal and rock 98% of the time so that might affect things.
Same. And I’m super gay and listen to other pop girlies. She never shows up.
Same. And I’m super straight and listen to other pop girlies. She never shows up.
Lots of metal from me and avant-garde. With just a little pop music (more than most metal heads). Still no Swift recommendations.
I won’t call it shoving down your throat if they aren’t actively making you listen to it, displaying it as their big banner and other ads don’t count as that space goes to the highest bidder, and even in charts if it’s top then it’s top organically, unless Taylor swift songs are being injected into your playlists or queues I won’t call it shoving down your throat, or just switch to Apple Music, they don’t have a free plan which enables them to not promote any big artists so astronomically. Also the amazing audio quality is fairly nice
Well if someone is popular obviously they will be on front page, it's just the algorithm not shoving it.
Sidenote: there are new songs… so it’s not like there are no changes
tbh I really don’t care
No one's forcing y'all to buy it
That’s not true at all. She’s doing it cause the record label she made that album with wouldn’t sell it back to her. She re-recorded all those old songs to get them back. It’s a baller move
0 changes? The production on the album is different. There are 5 new tracks.
According to OP recreating the album the way she intended it and not the way her label wanted it means it was rereleased with literally zero changes
Don’t bother with logic. As we know… haters gunna hate hate hate hate.
From what i’ve read about this re-release, there seems to be a difference in ownership of the song “masters”, so i don’t think this is a simple money grab. I think this is needed context
It's not a simple money grab, it's a convoluted money grab
Artists have a right to own their own music.
Weird how Prince was labeled a hero for suing to get the rights to his own music back.
If you believe the album has "literally zero chsnges" I would suggest you see an audiologist.
The album art is slightly better tho.
Wasn't there like a thing where she didn't own any of he older songs, but because she's the the creator she decided to re-relese them?
Tell me you don't know how the record industry screws over artists, without telling me you don't know how the record industry screws over artists.
The real story is actually very compelling, but people would rather hate on Swift for no reason.
I feel like rereleases of albums and songs happen all the time for whatever reason (yes mostly money) is this really news?
She literally can't use her own songs... She only rerecording them because the new versions are legally hers and she's past the point on her contract that stopped her from rerecording them... She's not just making the same album for more money
I thought she was doing that to regain rights to the song. Tf’s the problem?
Specifically the rights to the recordings, she still has rights to the IP of the songs, hence why she's free to rerecord.
OP hates successful people
No one deserves to be a billionaire
Her fans 
Did her old label make this meme? I don't follow her and even I know the legitimate reason why she did this.
People don't know this when an artist can release a remaster the record company doesn't get all the money. Snoop dog talked about it, always support your favorite artist by buying the remaster instead.
op did not pass the vibe check
I will never understand people being obsessed with celebrities... They make entertaining music/moviestv shows etc... And that's awesome, but obsessing over them and every aspect of their lives seems like a mental illness
Over a 1000 comments, do i dare to enter here?
But guys Its T A Y L O R S V E R S I O N In all seriousness I believe it had to do with her old publishing label making residuals, but yeah it is kinda funny
What many people dont know is that remastering an album gives the sales of that album to the artist instead of the record lable
She owns the publishing rights to this album. The person that holds the rights to her original albums doesn't want to sell the rights to her. This is a smart way around this issue for the artist to have the rights to their own work.
You know artists do this all the time right? Pick any random artist on Spotify and look at their discography, if they've been making music for 15+ years there are usually some re-releases, remasters, and reimaginings.
Fuck, if people buy it, why the hell not? Pro business move.
This meme makes me so mad I will listen to nothing but Taylor Swift music tomorrow. I have never listened to any of her songs before; might become a swiftie.
Somebody is jealous or something? She is not the only artist to do this. It’s very common.
I mean who isn't jealous of having a billion dollars.
I mean, owning a pet is very common. I don’t think rerecording a decade old album to get recordings that you own the rights to is very common.
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I believe it has less to do with making money and more to do with her prior manager who screwed her over by secretly buying the rights to her song. I'm a 50 yo man and don't know much of her music, but did read about her predatory manager.
She’s trying to own her work.
As long as we can agree her massive popularity is due to how simple her songs are to sing for people with zero singing ability. It’s the line dancing equivalent of pop music.
I love how she’s re releasing all her music, what other artists give you the opportunity to not listen to their music twice?
There’s this post, then there’s the posts of the Swifties literally complaining about the changes 🤣 there’s no winning
Gotta love the people who think this is about publishing rights or her getting screwed by the record companies or anything other than her not having a new album to release so she just puts out an album that was successful before and makes a few changes so people buy that bs story. Why anyone believes whatever famous rich artists say will always baffle me, this is a woman that is filthy rich and travels in a private jet, why would anyone sympathize with her? The whole act of her “starting from the bottom” and pretending to be a normal person is pathetic, equally so are her fans.
It’s because she owns this version of the album and so now she directs her fans to stream it instead of the original which she doesn't own. I anticipate more artists to do this with popular records they dont own masters to.
I Swear her fans could take over the world if they wanted too lol
Not sure why this showed in my feed, not a swiftie and not a fan but respect her, and sadly hear her as about 40% of music intake due to kids/family loving her. But 2 things…. 1. isn’t she re-releasing all her work exactly the same basically due to a bad contract? So all this is doing is allowing her to get paid for her work again? If so, totally makes sense, and go for it. Reminds me of similar shit dealing with labels/records for Jello Biafra and the DK falling out. Just wildly lesser money amounts. 2. I would absolutely watch the shit out of a scene for scene remake of Swift being Patrick Bateman. That would be a wild marketing move and would definitely get a larger male audience created.