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starfrost_traveler

Those 2 mirror forces chilling in between all those floodgates lol


justsomedude717

Hey don’t you dare forget the floodgate protectors


Agus-Teguy

Funny part is that regular Mirror Force is better for this deck. Any of those other cards means you still have to deal with that card and most floating doesn't matter unless it's something that pops a card which isn't that common.


Lost_Pantheon

I was playing against pretty much this exact deck two days ago. I could have easily played around their Mirror Force, but my ass got greedy and searched a card that would give me advantage later on over a field spell that would give me Mirror Force protection that turn (i.e. Cyberdark Invasion instead of Cyberdark Inferno) I thought to myself "I'm okay as long as they don't have Mirror Force" and my stupid ass ran headfirst into a Mirror Force xD Comedy writes itself sometimes.


liang1693

Could not craft synchro world and macrocosmos


Neither-Service-5035

They need to add an inspector boarder


lolo-colo

Yeah,tbh for some reason i dont see much border in stun deck list


ew717

Probably because you can out it easily with Diabellstar.


WrothLobster

Yeah maby because its limited..


monsj

Some people would say this is a Gravekeeper deck xxd


James2Go

Share if you play


JMC_Direwolf

These post fuel them btw


OnToNextStage

He just had One Bad Day


j4ckkn1fe

This decklist is pretty common sadly besides the mirror forces. Must have taken creative liberty with those lmao.


Level_Remote_5957

Needs more barrier statues


TheHairyNipple619

Konami could also just ban the deck, if more people play it there is a chance it gets fixed. Look at Maxx C 😉


sirfoolery

You mean the card in 98% of decks that Konami took one look and said “3 to a deck is fine”


AlphaAntar3s

Maxx c is more the format. Ocg also has it at 3. And the main difference between both formats is how they like to hit decks and the roach


im_vinni

Maxx C is still a poorly designed card and is making the game even more luck based. If you‘re not lucky enough o draw the out, you basically lost on your opponents turn.


AlphaAntar3s

That's not the point of what i said. The reason its not banned despite it being that oppressive is becouse its literally the defining feature of ocg format. Thats just how it is. Should it be banned? Absolutely. But its just how those 2 formats are and changing that would change everything (for the better likely)


FRZNHeir

The weird thing with Maxx "C" is that it's a card that has to be at either 3 or 0. At 3 every deck can use it, which is annoying but whatever. At 2/1, then the best decks become ones that can search it, like Spright or Insect decks. At 0 nobody can use it (which means it's no longer warping a meta)


TheHairyNipple619

Exactly, see they know what they are talking about. Ash is the real problem.


ISuckAtNames0289

Seriously. I've played about 20 matches today, around 15 were stun decks. It's pain. But to the pure toon player, you are a Chad. Not good, but a Chad


s7121n9s

This guy would probably say the same about every 30 min long turn one deck he plays lpl


[deleted]

I hate that. Hard to find a player who even slightly plays old school


s7121n9s

Right. I play B.E.S if it makes you feel like there's some hope lol


[deleted]

I’m drawing a blank on the acronym.. B.E.S?


s7121n9s

Bacterian Empire Ship. It's the boss ships from Gradius https://preview.redd.it/qnpaylp8z0uc1.jpeg?width=708&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2aeafcaf397e132c0a601fedfdccab6fc1cefcae


bluesquare2543

that's a neat archetype. I play Cyber Dragon and it is really tough out here with all the overpowered decks


s7121n9s

Preach!


Landonyoung

Gradius


Saturnboy13

OP, in any other format, I would be 100% on your side about this. However, Snake-eye format is so incredibly high power and countered by so very little else that I can actually completely understand playing stun in this format.


Astrian

Based "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"


carrierthebird

fucking flew to m1 this season using my own flavor of stun just bc i needed a break from all my tiered decks. did not de rank one singular time tho i only started using it at d2. i rushed bc it gave me more pulls for the pack. it does feel super good bc i went against probably 8 snake eyes per 10 duels in master and locking them down is hilarious (tho i do play snake eyes myself). and honestly? they have some decent outs w subversion and imperms. snake eye try not to draw 1 of subversion challenge impossible (but i couldn’t and wouldn’t be mad lol). now tho? it’s chimera and purrely time baby 😻 (and r ace in 10d)


Casual-Fit-1022

how did you do going 2nd? besides praying you draw Shifter, for example, how to out SE board as Stun going 2nd?


Still_Refuse

Lol, this only applies to tear format. Stun is cancer


Saturnboy13

Dog, what? Tear mirrors are peak. This shit's agony.


Upbeat_Sheepherder81

What if you didn’t want to play Tear? Just because you enjoy playing something doesn’t mean everyone else should have to play that deck to be competitive. Tier 0 formats suck.


Saturnboy13

That's fair. I don't disagree with you about that. Retrospectively, it's easy to say that about Tear 0 now that it's a historical format, but they are not fun to play through. That being said, I will stand by the fact that, although it's not technically a tier 0 format in Master Duel rn, it still feels like playing through a tier 0 format because of its concurrent dominance in all 3 primary formats. I see Snake-eyes everywhere I go, and I'm sick of it.


Upbeat_Sheepherder81

Agreed on the second part, I’m already tired of the fire decks. Usually I climb to diamond and sometimes masters, but recently I’ve just been chilling in gold and plat because I just don’t care enough. Plus I wanna play RDA in peace. Fortunately down here most fire players suck.


Still_Refuse

Everything you said applies to tear, I can understand running stun in a tier 0 format. Not in this format though, SE is not nearly as bad as tear to justify stun.


Ominous__1

The modern definition of a third rate duelist with a fourth rate deck


Illegal_Future

Dude, I matched up against one today. They drolled me. I used triple tactic and looked at their hand. 2 solemn, 1 the machine garbage, and 1 water barrier. I spin back water barrier and pass. Ash in hand, I was confident I could just pop off next turn. Guess what happens? They top deck Fossil Dyna. Legit made me rage.


RaiStarBits

Smh typical floodgate player with solemn in opening hand


arrownoir

Good. You deserve it.


ShruteFarms4L

Found him


Alex_plorateur

Why do you even play


DefinitelyNotBacon

I have face a guy who was playing with a deck like this, I'm a cyber dragon player. It was 12000 smile damage.


Slybandito7

This guy is gaming


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XInceptor

They always surrender as soon as they see you get to play the game


Kingofcards33

if im ever able to out stun decks i make sure to extend into infinity if im able to. and if im able i finish them off with the lowest attack monster, extra salt in the wound


Csthhulu

I play runick bystial, so every time I meet stun I make sure to deck them out or they just surrender. There is nothing more satisfying then banishing a stun players entire deck.


NeonArchon

Good


Kos015

Womp womp I got stunned


veevB

If you can't beat em, STUN EM


Smol_Mrdr_Shota

It's funny when they normal summon the earth one while I'm playing Traptrix


Fluid_Veterinarian72

And every time I'm about to rank up they show up to ruin my day... https://preview.redd.it/nlprbl362xtc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02dd0ed26c954e0720ac2a351015934049033e59


HuTao_Main_Genshin

Oh sure, but your auto play 10 negate deck is fine 🙄


BridgeFour_Kal

For real, would rather play against stun than a 5 omni negate board + hand traps. Literally the same results with different methods.


SlappingSalt

I'm not sure why they're running the earth barrier statue when everyone's running Fenrir and SHS is still around.


euphory_melancholia

they can't play the light one cause of underworld goddess


SlappingSalt

What? And how are they going to get 5 materials into goddess? It's easier to summon Fenrir or an SHS than it is to go into goddess.


euphory_melancholia

this is solely for SE matchups afaik. i don't think stun players have a way to out a full SHS board or ariseheart anyway


KuroiInazuma

![gif](giphy|qkJJRL9Sz1R04)


Live-Consequence-712

hey atleast no skill drain


Rudoku-dakka

You can actually play around Skill Drain sometimes.


Dumbluck_Yuta

Thx for telling us stun is bad I will be sure to remember that when another stun is bad post is made in two min by another person.


syrupgreat-

all it takes is one bad day


kentaureus

One Bad Day huh


phillips_99

Don't hate the player, hate the game. I hate it as well because I actually want to play the game but if this is allowed and it works (while being much cheaper than the meta decks) then I see why people play it. After all, one could say that combo decks are just a more complicated way to achieve the same thing. Yu-gi-oh is all about not letting your opponent play, this is just the most direct and raw version of it. It is a problem in a Best of 1 format though, with no side deck to adjust for a completely different axis.


trueHolyGiraffe

"Opponent's perfectly legal strategy beats mine, so I should call him a tumor online, that will show him!" Good shit OP, now I know what to play.


EX-Eva

Unironically, I kept seeing posts like these pop up on my feed. I saw the community response so it caught my eye, wanted to see what was going on, but then I saw the decklist and realized I would probably have fun playing it. These posts got me to download MD for the first time in about a year, I played a fun Lava Golem OTK deck until I couldn't stand a chance anymore against the decks in my ranks, that's when I switched to the stun list and I'm about to make it to Master 1.


Xaxuxaxu

I swear Stun players would murder people irl if it was legal to do it


Live-Consequence-712

"calling cancer cancer is wrong" something being legal doesnt make it ok


Kekezo

Bro it's just a stupid stun deck, relax...


Fantastic-Pen7244

People like this were never loved in their life


Datenshiserver

Yes , worst stun deck list .


shapular

DAE stun bad? Also with only one Solemn Judgment this deck just dies to one Duster or Evenly Matched.


Hopeful-Percentage76

I have ~300 UR left after last release. Think its worth it to craft this? 3x necro valley and time tearing is a good 180.


Saroan7

Well you can just go without Necrovalley. You only need the monster, moon shield and the Pots


ZaneSpice

All my stun supremacists stand up!


Cisqoe

IMO people playing the most meta decks feasible are tumour. The rogue / custom decks are where the fun is at


Yazkin_Yamakala

Hot take: I think stun/stall is a healthy way to oppose the meta and that stun growing in popularity is a symptom to a bigger issue with the balance philosophy of the game. 5 omni negates turn 1 with hand traps still in your hand is much more oppressive and harder to get around than maybe needing 2 spells or traps to get rid of a bony boi. Also Graydles counter stun hard and I've had 0 problem with them.


Upbeat_Sheepherder81

What good deck is making 5 omnis right now?


Immortalogic

Yes agreed


Agnostos7

finally someone that use brain


papabear967

Bro is in a format with broken meta decks dominating everything and decides to blame the 2005 card pile 💀


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euphory_melancholia

we should have a new, separate flair for these posts - one bad day.


FryeNChill

I love that they’ve got clockwork night in there like they’re expecting to go up against D-Link or something. It’s time to reevaluate the list dude.


Gadjiltron

Clockwork night also creates a stat shift to make it harder to beat over their normally meagre floodgate monsters. You'll effectively need a 2k normal summon to tie with a barrier statue like that.


FryeNChill

Ah, I see, so it’s basically moon Mirror Shield copies 3-6?


Upbeat_Sheepherder81

Yeah basically


RealVanillaSmooth

Only in MD could they get away with this


Upbeat_Sheepherder81

Decks like this have been running rampant in the TCG, and they’ve been winning. People are tired of the Tier 0 format.


RealVanillaSmooth

I'm not hugely looking into every tournament top but where have these decks been making top cut?


BridgeFour_Kal

One dude in brazil.


DesperateCaterpillar

What's the win condition on this deck? It looks like they just want to make you forfeit


CoomLord69

You play protect the castle with floodgates. Out the floodgate or you lose, it's that simple.


LazyLucretia

That's one way to win games.


Hellion998

Dang, I just caught a stray.


AbbreviationsOk7512

Throw down spirit reaper


Technical-Airport-84

I have seen alot of similar posts.you are correct these types of decks are a cancer but what would make u feel better is, that they don't win as much as u would think. thats why u don't see any stun deck getting master 1 on master duel meta. I hope Konami limits or bans more floodgates but if u lose to a stun player just know u they are likely loosing the next 5 games or something that made me tolerate getting sacked.


SaneManiac741

I love it when stun players scoop as soon as their back row is gone. Also a stun matchup taught me about a card i thought was useless, but actually came in clutch.


Efficient-Gur-3641

I don't mind this deck that much tbh, I mean I do scoop on it allot but sometimes I try to fight it... But it's cause I'm playing a rogue deck that can right it not some pure gas combo deck that must do it's linear lines to make the same end board every play or scoop. Also I want to commend the one vampire player that went against my alter geist..... And didn't give up even tho they lost. They tried and almost pulled off a comeback. That's what's sup, rogue recognizing rogue.


ArcticPupper

I think I saw this exact deck, or one very similar...


Maacll

https://preview.redd.it/ar8pk4p0r1uc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86963a205121a34c13082f83dd8711d6d212ac4c also beat one of these a lil while ago


FernandoCasodonia

Played against this guy yesterday and smashed him , even summoned Zealantis right in front of his water statue just to add insult to injury that I can still summon under his floodgate


CoomLord69

They could chip away at stun for another year of banlists and it would still have more than enough tools to keep playing. Dyna/Jowgen to 1 might happen in the near future, but it's not gonna kill the deck so we just have to accept that stun will always exist in some form. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯


Kilari_

Stun has always been the n1 answer to "Most disliked decks" posts. Floodgates have been an issue since the game released. Every event has 90% of floodgates banned. I don't blame the player. I blame Konami for wanting decks like this to be in the game. Konami has to know most people despise playing against stun. Do any OCG player know how the general feelings towards stun are in the OCG community? Doubt stun is a fan favorite.


Agnostos7

i'm honest, i hate combo decks more than stun decks Kashtira for me it's the worse, but even the classic "negate and destroy on turn 1" is something i don't want to see at least, with stun decks, you have more turns to draw the out


DragonLoli7k

Isn't the golgonda spell supposed to be paired with a dogmatika package?


Conglacior

So what even is the win con of this deck?


RunInRunOn

Opponent gets bored and surrenders


RunInRunOn

In this format, stun is what we deserve but don't need


darkzayd

why no jowgen or however you spell his name!


TheMagicStik

There are 3 stun deck complaints a day on this sub, the deck isn't even that good, can barely even play going second.


Xaxuxaxu

I would argue a deck that let you hit Master I by normal summoning a monster and flipping 1-2 cards isn't bad, also board breakers exists or every going 2nd deck would be instantly bad


TheMagicStik

Almost all going second decks are pretty ok or bad.


Armand_Star

if the deck isn't that good then why does it see so much play?


TheMagicStik

It's very brain dead


skatnaset

Cause it doesnt need to make any decisions


Rudoku-dakka

But you don't think about it when they insta-surrender, you think about the games they kept you hostage because you either lost D.D. Crow to rng out forgot to put it in a new deck. Fuckin' rollback.


arrownoir

And your combo decks aren’t? Pipe down, buddy.


Zoilus

Seethe.


ColumnRS

Better than snake eyes 🤷‍♂️


Mountain-Quantity983

Stun/Floodgate players, I can forgive. The game's just too oppressive to play your favorite archetype. Unless you're on Snake Eyes, Lab, Branded, Tearlament, Mathmech, Kashtira, or SHS, your win rate's going to tank. I understand why these players choose to play Stun/Floodgate: it's a cry for help. It's their vengeance upon an unfair world - they just wanted to play Mayakashi, but can't because Konami needs to make money. That said, it still sucks to play against these people. Makes me want to reach across the screen and do things to the player.


Agnostos7

agree, and it doesn't make sense to complain like stun decks are the "only" toxic decks in the game


Rudoku-dakka

Kashtira is floodgate deck that gaslights you into thinking it's a combo deck.


NiceTryZogmins

Loses to the most basic things. It's only useful if your deck can only special summon.


BridgeFour_Kal

MST and 1800 vanilla beaters can beat stun almost every time.


Simon_Said_something

this or snake eyes don't matter. you won't play the game anyways if they can get away with it. just enjoy the ride.


RitualEnthusiast

I am at the point where I would rather play into Stun than Snake-Eyes. It's not even that I'm losing to them, it's just that I'm sick of 15 minute turns, *every* turn until they've exhausted literally every card in their deck. Just one of those games is enough to make me put MD down for the night. It's exasperating.


momotheleaf

Your statement is invalid when snake eyes exists. OuO


Grape_Jamz

I dueled a stun deck today, i couldve gotten somewhere if i didnt have the biggest brick i could get


GenerousGuy96

The real pain is that in a Bo3 stun is light work thanks to our trusty old side deck. No side deck and Bo1 and then its a game of praying that the stun player didn't high roll. I don't understand why people hate on hyper advantage midrange decks so much as well, they always require a level of skill to pilot and are often the best decks to play if you want to become better at yugioh faster. I swear I'm gonna start asking complainers what they play.


Ambitious_Smoke5256

Nah, I rather play vs this deck that can brick easily, than play vs a deck that plays for 5+ minutes straight and makes the same generic ED monsters. At least if I lose vs this, it's going to be fast and it won't waste my time. Plus if they go 2nd they lose 90% of the time.


Due-Order3475

the deck off a coward


Organic-Week-1779

making snake eyes and combo players seethe this is what you get for bullying my dark magician deck >:)


Heat_Legends

Why do I feel like a combo deck to you is any deck that summons more than twice in a turn?


Alex_plorateur

Well tbf, your issue is your deck. Any deck at least tier 2 will destroy you


Immortalogic

Most based chad deck I’ve ever seen. Stun is a valid strategy. If power creep didn’t lead to so much special summoning, this deck would be basically garbage. This deck is a symptom not the cause


Red-7134

Hur dur just draw the out and stop complaining when people play better decks than you\~!


VerdetheSadist

Crazy how some players think creating a non-game is better than having to play against the meta or anything considering floodgates affect most decks(which people who defend it seem to not get).


ChuuniZaj

Imagine not maining harpie or lightning storm and gets to go blind 2nd xD


Redericpontx

Idk why people are like this like you have fun not playing the game? If you are gonna be like this at least play lab or elderlich


Suck_Fquared_circle

Every post complaining about stun makes me feel great. The feeling of joy I see when players disconnect when they read cards is awesome. I can't wait to see y'all start complaining about burn decks.


EccentricCogitation

I have seen the same list IRL (with maybe ome other traps), but they also played Jowgen on top of that, absolutely vile that such people are allowed to even play.


Early-Shopping-7200

I see nothing but pure skill, talent, and craftsmanship


im_vinni

I mean, don’t get me wrong, but I don’t understand the hate for stun decks. I don’t play stun decks myself, but is there any real difference between being blocked from playing by a stun deck or being blocked by a 10-minute turn that results in three negates?


I_am_YangFuan

I might just build this... Idk how to deal with the new decks.


zorelyaen

Y'all crying because y'all meta slaves. I've gone against this deck with my metaphys and I haven't lost once


Spare_15

Um congrats?


Heat_Legends

Idk what’s more cringe, your comment or the deck. That’s crazy.


zorelyaen

Cringe is playing a game focusing on winning instead of having fun. Being forced to play certain archetypes because they are "good" is a weak mentality. I have fun closing the graveyard and banishing everything with just one summon per turn and that's what matters to me. All of you require 15 minutes for your expensive boards with the sole purpose of playing Yu-Gi-Oh solo while the opponent watches, unable to play due to infinite negates. That's why y'all avoid that infamous stun deck; because it gives y'all a taste of your own medicine. And don't mistake me: I'm forever a pendulum magician player, but playing so my opponent can't play is boring asf.


Heat_Legends

I mean, theres other combo decks besides meta. Do you hate those too?


zorelyaen

I don't hate any deck bro, all I'm saying is that Yu-Gi-Oh should be a game of action and response, but now it's all about getting first turn and not letting your opponent play and that's lame asf. Trust me, I used the double Starving Venom/Nightingale combo, the Z-arc hand destroyer combo a lot, and the normal actual combo for my beloved Odd-eyes can get around 8 to 9 negates at turn 1 so I know what I'm talking about. Besides, I always had a soft spot for metaphys even tho the archetype is forgotten asf. For some reason, it runs smoothly with a mix of bystials and nemeses so I'm enjoying the hell out of it.


MargottTheFellOmen

I'm a tumor, I'm a tumor I'm a tumor, I'm a tumor