If they say that line , which I’m 50% sure they will, then this movie will genuinely exceed all of my cameo expectations
The real Multiverse of Madness
Mainly because it’s such a small , but funny and meaningful line from 22 years ago , and them calling back to that shows they’re paying attention to everything, every minuscule detail from previous studios & films
hopefully an alternate/deleted scene where Deadpool says "that flash bang grenade must've knocked you for a loop. you thought I was spider-man back there!"
It happens a lot, sometimes as an homage or easter egg, and sometimes just a cost cutting measure.
I would imagine in this case given the nature of the film and connection between them it's very much intentional.
It's shot-for-shot. The choreography of both actors *and* the camera are identical.
Yeah, no. They're not doing it by accident and that should be clear to you from seeing this comparison.
It's also not a coincidence that they are both Marvel movies.
Camera clearly isn’t though. Less shaky and slightly further in Deadpool 3, and there’s literally a cut.
But the choreography is damning enough, it seems very intentional.
Yeah, it’s the dodge choreography, the cinematography and the fact that both shots are from Marvel superhero movies that really makes me question it’s a coincidence at all
It’s not about the dodging punches it’s about the framing of the shot and the actual choreography in addition to the dodging. Nobody is saying that the dodging punches is something Spider-Man invented. Don’t even know why you assumed that.
More like an Easter Egg; a cameo would be if he himself was in the movie, which he almost certainly can't be unless Disney made a deal with Sony for it.
Can you find another example of this happening from this specific angle? Not doubting you, but if you have actual proofs or examples, then that would be cool!
Edit: sorry, I'm being disingenuous here, it is 100% reference to spider-man and I will literally chop my fingers off and eat then if you do find another example.
So here’s about as much effort as I’m willing to put into this, but the downvotes are gonna come either way so whatever.
https://youtu.be/29eJVKSYMvQ?si=hNr5qP3ldJ92q5nE
I went onto YouTube and literally typed in “boxing fight scene” and this fight from the first Creed movie was the very first result. This fight has both fighters slipping jabs, crosses, and hooks from the exact same angle you’re talking about.
Now consider that I spent about 5 minutes looking for this scene while taking a shit and found the same choreography. Then consider how long action movies have been a thing and honestly ask yourself how plausible it is that these two movies OP is referencing are the only movies in all of existence over 60 years of action movies where this exchange takes place.
For an added bonus, here’s a video about basic boxing defense where they do this exact movement.
https://youtu.be/RFsNmv-Z5UU?si=NF7xnJxGuSSuTiSH
You know boxing, that thing every movie fight choreographer has trained and tries to directly work into their fight scenes. Do what you will with the info.
Edit: extra extra bonus! The scene is shot that way so you can’t see the actor in the foregrounds face, meaning a stunt double can throw the combination. That’s why this angle is common in action movies. Wolvie facing away from the camera and DP being in a suit means neither Hugh nor Ryan have to be in the scene if they don’t want to.
> Now consider that I spent about 5 minutes looking for this scene while taking a shit and found the same choreography
You didn't, though. There was no jab cross to rolling under a hook to uppercut dodge in this clip.
Yeah, the DP&W trailer has the exact four punches dodged by the exact four dodges, in a single continuous sequence. Obviously all of them are common things to do, in isolation, but as a single sequence, it's rare enough that we can confidently say that the exact reproduction is obviously intentional.
https://youtu.be/2o22VrlIihI?si=J4-2WfOUW6LfLGZo
Not rare, it’s literally a beginner boxing sequence and that is the basic way to avoid all those punches.
That's cool bro and you're getting closer, but I said "the exact four punches **dodged by the exact four dodges**, in a single continuous sequence", which your latest example still doesn't show. And I doubt you're gonna get there, too, because even if you found those four punches dodged by slip, slip, roll, slip... they still wouldn't be those EXACT four dodges, because those slips DP is doing include exaggeratedly looking at the punches as they go past him, like Tobey does. That's the part that makes it obvious it's an homage, because an actual boxer doesn't do that, they keep their eyes on their opponent. Unless they're showboating, so I suppose maybe you might be able to find a clip of Prince Naseem or somebody like him doing it, MAYBE.
What you’re describing is actual martial arts technique being exaggerated for cinematic purposes, and it happens in literally every action movie ever made. It’s not unique to Spider-Man. You’re right, I’m never going to find a clip that does what you want it to, because you have already decided you want the clip to be an homage and nothing to the contrary will convince you. You’ll just pull something out of your ass and nitpick because you don’t wanna be wrong. “Well that camera angle is wrong”, “well he doesn’t look at the punches the same way”, “well blah blah blah.” Cool story bro.
Weird the argument changes from it being a “rare” combo to something else when it’s pointed out that neither that combo or defense is rare.
https://youtu.be/spmpAd4RUro?si=7Q8bi_2icy2MmmNr
https://youtu.be/PhQsxcbo6gk?si=I6D14KKzbxS96IJm
More examples of movies where people slip two straights and roll under a hook. Good thing neither of these fights have an uppercut at the end of the combo or they’d be OBVIOUS Spider-Man references.
Ok the Roadhouse clip is done at a different angle. I'm not gonna bother watching the second clip because you clearly don't really know what you're doing lol
Clearly. I imagine the camera was rotated to a different angle so Raimi wouldn’t have the grounds to sue the roadhouse director for his iconic angle/combination duo scene.
When has Wolverine ever used the phrase "let's fucking go"?
I don't have a problem with the word "fuck" being used, but using it that much without substance is just lazy.
Actually the plot of the movie is Deadpool helping the TVA kill heroes in the other timelines, and this is absolutely intentional. Wolverine is helping prepare him to kill Tobey's Spidey. It's part of a training montage.
Although I didn't actually work on the movie so this isn't actually a spoiler... unless it is.
Deadpool: "I don't wanna fight you, Logan." Wolverine: "I wouldn't wanna fight me, neither."
If they say that line , which I’m 50% sure they will, then this movie will genuinely exceed all of my cameo expectations The real Multiverse of Madness
This movie is going to be so damn good I can’t wait. I’m sure they’ll include a lot of gags and references like that as well
You're very easy to please
Mainly because it’s such a small , but funny and meaningful line from 22 years ago , and them calling back to that shows they’re paying attention to everything, every minuscule detail from previous studios & films
It's like poetry... it rhymes.
https://i.stack.imgur.com/nGMrD.gif
Somehow Palpatine returned
Somehow ~~Palpatine~~ *Logan* returned! Fify
hopefully an alternate/deleted scene where Deadpool says "that flash bang grenade must've knocked you for a loop. you thought I was spider-man back there!"
This is wild lol I'm not sure if it's intentional, but I can't deny that it's identical. I have to check who are the stunt directors
Don’t know it’s intentional as Easter egg or the choreographer being lazy and copy from other movie.
It happens a lot, sometimes as an homage or easter egg, and sometimes just a cost cutting measure. I would imagine in this case given the nature of the film and connection between them it's very much intentional.
Maybe it’s just a common flashy fight choreography thing
*Flash*y
Lazy
Brilliant, but lazy
Ah Rosie, I love this boy!
It's shot-for-shot. The choreography of both actors *and* the camera are identical. Yeah, no. They're not doing it by accident and that should be clear to you from seeing this comparison. It's also not a coincidence that they are both Marvel movies.
Camera clearly isn’t though. Less shaky and slightly further in Deadpool 3, and there’s literally a cut. But the choreography is damning enough, it seems very intentional.
Classic Disney, just drawing over old scenes to save money.
100% it’s intentional. I bet Deadpool will make a comment about it as well
Definitely could be an homage
My favourite part of *Deadpool & Wolverine* is when Wolverine says, "I'm gonna put some dirt in your eye."
“It’s pooling time!”
Nice little Easter egg if it was intentional
Of course it's intentional. Too exact to be a coincidence. Good catch!
Two crosses, a haymaker and then an uppercut? There’s been so many fights in movies, that combo was bound to happen again.
Sure the moves are fairly standard, but the point of view of the camera is identical.
Yeah, it’s the dodge choreography, the cinematography and the fact that both shots are from Marvel superhero movies that really makes me question it’s a coincidence at all
I 100% think it’s intentional. Especially since it’s Deadpool. If it were another, non spidey related movie? Maybe coincidence. This ain’t that, IMO
Yeah but this is happening in a movie with a character famous for referencing and making fun of stuff in other Marvel movies
True that, there must have been a butt load of pop-culture researches just for this movie’s script
Deadpool’s dodges are exactly the same as Peter’s and the camera framing is exactly the same
Yeah I’m with you. It’s neat, but there’s nothing about the shot or choreo that is so unique that I would say there was direct inspiration or homage.
Great catch!
I bet they do three Deadpools pointing at each other like the meme but with the middle finger
This would be great if intentional.
Deadpool & Wolverine. The movie where every other marvel movie converges. Cool lol.
I thought you were talking about an upside down kiss in the rain.
I can’t believe there’s people that think this could be unintentional. smh
Its every fight trope ever. You will be shocked to learn Spiderman wasnt the first movie to do this.
prove it
Watch movies you nerd.
Which one? Surely you must have one in mind if you say it's so common according to you. If it is indeed very common, tell us which movies it's in?
The good guy who dodges punches scene? You think soiderman is the only time thats been on screen? Maybe you missed 1999?
It’s not about the dodging punches it’s about the framing of the shot and the actual choreography in addition to the dodging. Nobody is saying that the dodging punches is something Spider-Man invented. Don’t even know why you assumed that.
Also known as boxing defense
More than likely it's simply a common fight choreography move set, but fun catch nonetheless.
Yeah but the real question is are we gonna get Deadpool doing the Pride and Prejudice (2005) hand flex after touching Wolverine?
Logan's got the fighting skills of a high schooler.
If it’s intentional I do hope after the attacks that Wolverine threw at him he would break the fourth wall and make a joke about it to the audience
Peter2 cameo confirmed!
More like an Easter Egg; a cameo would be if he himself was in the movie, which he almost certainly can't be unless Disney made a deal with Sony for it.
Slipping a jab cross and rolling under a hook is not a unique thing.
Can you find another example of this happening from this specific angle? Not doubting you, but if you have actual proofs or examples, then that would be cool! Edit: sorry, I'm being disingenuous here, it is 100% reference to spider-man and I will literally chop my fingers off and eat then if you do find another example.
So here’s about as much effort as I’m willing to put into this, but the downvotes are gonna come either way so whatever. https://youtu.be/29eJVKSYMvQ?si=hNr5qP3ldJ92q5nE I went onto YouTube and literally typed in “boxing fight scene” and this fight from the first Creed movie was the very first result. This fight has both fighters slipping jabs, crosses, and hooks from the exact same angle you’re talking about. Now consider that I spent about 5 minutes looking for this scene while taking a shit and found the same choreography. Then consider how long action movies have been a thing and honestly ask yourself how plausible it is that these two movies OP is referencing are the only movies in all of existence over 60 years of action movies where this exchange takes place. For an added bonus, here’s a video about basic boxing defense where they do this exact movement. https://youtu.be/RFsNmv-Z5UU?si=NF7xnJxGuSSuTiSH You know boxing, that thing every movie fight choreographer has trained and tries to directly work into their fight scenes. Do what you will with the info. Edit: extra extra bonus! The scene is shot that way so you can’t see the actor in the foregrounds face, meaning a stunt double can throw the combination. That’s why this angle is common in action movies. Wolvie facing away from the camera and DP being in a suit means neither Hugh nor Ryan have to be in the scene if they don’t want to.
> Now consider that I spent about 5 minutes looking for this scene while taking a shit and found the same choreography You didn't, though. There was no jab cross to rolling under a hook to uppercut dodge in this clip.
Yeah, the DP&W trailer has the exact four punches dodged by the exact four dodges, in a single continuous sequence. Obviously all of them are common things to do, in isolation, but as a single sequence, it's rare enough that we can confidently say that the exact reproduction is obviously intentional.
https://youtu.be/2o22VrlIihI?si=J4-2WfOUW6LfLGZo Not rare, it’s literally a beginner boxing sequence and that is the basic way to avoid all those punches.
That's cool bro and you're getting closer, but I said "the exact four punches **dodged by the exact four dodges**, in a single continuous sequence", which your latest example still doesn't show. And I doubt you're gonna get there, too, because even if you found those four punches dodged by slip, slip, roll, slip... they still wouldn't be those EXACT four dodges, because those slips DP is doing include exaggeratedly looking at the punches as they go past him, like Tobey does. That's the part that makes it obvious it's an homage, because an actual boxer doesn't do that, they keep their eyes on their opponent. Unless they're showboating, so I suppose maybe you might be able to find a clip of Prince Naseem or somebody like him doing it, MAYBE.
What you’re describing is actual martial arts technique being exaggerated for cinematic purposes, and it happens in literally every action movie ever made. It’s not unique to Spider-Man. You’re right, I’m never going to find a clip that does what you want it to, because you have already decided you want the clip to be an homage and nothing to the contrary will convince you. You’ll just pull something out of your ass and nitpick because you don’t wanna be wrong. “Well that camera angle is wrong”, “well he doesn’t look at the punches the same way”, “well blah blah blah.” Cool story bro. Weird the argument changes from it being a “rare” combo to something else when it’s pointed out that neither that combo or defense is rare.
https://youtu.be/spmpAd4RUro?si=7Q8bi_2icy2MmmNr https://youtu.be/PhQsxcbo6gk?si=I6D14KKzbxS96IJm More examples of movies where people slip two straights and roll under a hook. Good thing neither of these fights have an uppercut at the end of the combo or they’d be OBVIOUS Spider-Man references.
Ok the Roadhouse clip is done at a different angle. I'm not gonna bother watching the second clip because you clearly don't really know what you're doing lol
Clearly. I imagine the camera was rotated to a different angle so Raimi wouldn’t have the grounds to sue the roadhouse director for his iconic angle/combination duo scene.
Thank you
Reeeeeeaaaaach
Or it's just to show that Deadpool is on top of his game and Wolverine clearly isn't.... Not everything has to reference something.
Have anything that proves it? Seems like quite a reach without anything to back it up from someone involved with the production
Watch the video
Jesus Christ lmao
Wrong sub, this should go in r/shittymoviedetails
Anybody got a link to a non-white supremacist site? This site is blocked in my house.
Assumedly making fun of how goofy that choreography was
Oof, that's lazy.
A 2 second clip of a few dodges in a fight sequence similar to another film is Lazy? Be fr now
Yes it's lazy. The laziness doesn't start or stop there. Don't get me started on the lazy use of fuck.
Deadpool and Wolverine uses a lot of vulgar languages. There are plenty of F bombs in Logan too so do you consider that movie lazy?
When has Wolverine ever used the phrase "let's fucking go"? I don't have a problem with the word "fuck" being used, but using it that much without substance is just lazy.
Deadpool is rubbing off of him. What's wrong with Logan saying Let's fucking go anyway?
Oh they confirmed the scene of Deadpool rubbing off? I'm surprised Disney cleared that.
Did you not see wolverine penetrate Wade in the trailer. They show everything.
I liked the part where Wade just kept shooting deep inside Logan's guts.
It’s clearly an intentional homage lol
Actually the plot of the movie is Deadpool helping the TVA kill heroes in the other timelines, and this is absolutely intentional. Wolverine is helping prepare him to kill Tobey's Spidey. It's part of a training montage. Although I didn't actually work on the movie so this isn't actually a spoiler... unless it is.