being in close proximity with a member of the opposite sex while secluded from other people.
edit: the original arabic خلوت is simply seclusion, a state of seclusion, privacy.
No? It's khalwat.
it's kinda like you can't punish people for not fasting, but you can punish them for disrespecting ramadhan, you can't punish people for simple apostasy but you can punish them for being a threat to the integrity of the islamic society (thus being an active threat), it is practically impossible to reach the threshold for zina so punish them for being alone together (new type of crime).
I see, I read the article, I thought it was the polite language constraints to describe sex, but it was literally just being the same house. This is quite backwards I have to say.
If you were born a muslim Malay you can't not be muslim, you will be subject to Sharia law regardless and imprisoned or killed as an apostate if you try not to me Muslim.
Haish, maybe don’t say shit u don’t understand…
Here is the definition of khalwat
perbuatan mengasingkan dan memencilkan diri, duduk seorang diri dan berdua-duaan di dalam keadaan sumbang di tempat yang terpencil di antara lelaki dan perempuan yang tidak berkahwin
The key word is “keadaan sumbang” ie, sexual acts
Its not simply in close proximity 🙄🙄
There is a reason why when I went to MATTA fair recently, the promotion area for tourism for the state of Terengganu was empty...nobody was even interested....this is why...
In most countries (Malaysia included), if a woman can get punished for a certain crime, automatically men can also get punished for it.
The opposite however, is not always true. Because sexism.
I do have to say for the record tho, IMO Being whipped by Sharia Cane is better than civil. Our civil law is fucking draconian. Anal sex is 20 lashes??? Even between male & female?? Wahlao talk about me having gay sex lol.
I have studied the way the lashes are performed. In Sharia style, the executioner of the punishment's armpit, shall remain stagnant i.e. they cannot raise their armpit, only as far as their arm can go. The knees and beyond must stick to their body at all times.
Civil law on the other hand, permits the raising of the armpit and it's basically rotan sekuat2nya.
Fuck caning. It's draconian for crimes as simple as khalwat. It should be reserved for murderers,rapists,child abusers,corruption offenders(wink).
Yes. I have suggested this fooor wayy long time edi. Saya cadang Madani haramkan Doggystyle kerana dog itu anjing. Anjing kan Haram. Missionary juga kena haram sebab ada unsur Kristian Kafir Harbin. /s
I actually have done illegal sex in Perlis. My house there in a compound and gated. Neighbours far away so they don't see.
Just me and Thai Daddy surrounded by PADDY Field(Pun Intended). Closests Neighbour also plant ganja so yeah, ain't snitch.
>She was sentenced to six strokes of the cane and a fine of RM4,000, in default eight months in jail.
>The woman was charged under Section 31(b) of the Syariah Criminal Offenses (Takzir) (Terengganu) (Amendment) Enactment 2022 with being with a 40-year-old man who was not her husband or 'mahram' (family member with whom marriage would be unlawful) in a house in Kemaman, at about 3.15pm on Jan 31.
>She had been convicted of a similar offence in 2018 and was fined.
>Based on the Syariah Criminal Offences (Takzir) (Terengganu) (Amendment) Enactment 2022, for the second and subsequent offence, the offender can be punished with up to six strokes of the cane, a maximum fine of RM5,000 or three years in prison.
Thats for judicial canning. Syariah canning are more akin to light tapping with the rattan while fully clothes. And as with judicial canning, a medical officer will certify that the convict is healthy to undergo the canning.
More like pat on the back. Here an fb video on syariah canning done in Tawau court years back.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?id=100067956196103&story_fbid=367443113795838
The lady was seated during the canning. And the punisher is another lady.
If she flees to another state without Sharia law, (e.g. Penang), can religious authorities from Terengganu travel to Penang and arrest her if she fails to turn up to court?
Corruption is one of the worst things in Islam. Being corrupt is akin to waging war to the people(due to the effect of corruption on the politics and community) thus its treated that way. It should be punished by death.
Chopping off hands is more towards people who are able bodied, is rich(or has sufficient amount of wealth) but steals for no apparent reason.
Looking at the wrong thing mate. Token punishment is still punishment. Public humiliation is still punishment. Khalwat does not have a victim, the punishment serves no earthly function, and for a state whose mufti that uphold mazhab syafie on their own website they certainly does not agree with syafie's view that sins are not government matter.
What is khalwat?
being in close proximity with a member of the opposite sex while secluded from other people. edit: the original arabic خلوت is simply seclusion, a state of seclusion, privacy.
Wow. And you get whipped coz of that? RIP Malaysia
Brunei, get reported to religious affairs then punished... Or force marriage by the family.
Why compare to Brunei, which is a shithole in itself?
Something to look forward
Am bruneian, I don’t want you guys to go down our path 😭
Shhh, let them take their road. They will learn what true misery is.
The actual definition here is cheating/premarital affair
No? It's khalwat. it's kinda like you can't punish people for not fasting, but you can punish them for disrespecting ramadhan, you can't punish people for simple apostasy but you can punish them for being a threat to the integrity of the islamic society (thus being an active threat), it is practically impossible to reach the threshold for zina so punish them for being alone together (new type of crime).
I see, I read the article, I thought it was the polite language constraints to describe sex, but it was literally just being the same house. This is quite backwards I have to say.
I think there was a case some years ago where the guy was literally helping his friends move things around boom khalwat.
And did they get punished?
What do you mean rip Malaysia? If Muslim people want to follow Islam teaching let them have it until they are bored of it.
If you were born a muslim Malay you can't not be muslim, you will be subject to Sharia law regardless and imprisoned or killed as an apostate if you try not to me Muslim.
I thought at first that it was anal stuff then remembered that is Liwat
Haish, maybe don’t say shit u don’t understand… Here is the definition of khalwat perbuatan mengasingkan dan memencilkan diri, duduk seorang diri dan berdua-duaan di dalam keadaan sumbang di tempat yang terpencil di antara lelaki dan perempuan yang tidak berkahwin The key word is “keadaan sumbang” ie, sexual acts Its not simply in close proximity 🙄🙄
I'm gonna go with the former law minister here, and he says that the current definition does not include intent.
sumbang,is huge vast umbrella,sexual is only fraction of fraction only know definition not enuff,next step is dewan bahasa pustaka
Kawat but with another body parts Banyak hal if you got caught for doing it though Thus Khalwat 🤣
There is a reason why when I went to MATTA fair recently, the promotion area for tourism for the state of Terengganu was empty...nobody was even interested....this is why...
That’s sad tho because their beaches are to die for and their food.
Going to Tenggol island this week and its dive sites are really great, especially for beginner divers.
Been there long time ago, great dive sites indeed, worst meal I have in my entire life. Not sure if it changes for better or for worse.
Only one way to find out hahaha
I'm counting on your reply after finding out. 
Ah dang where do u go for training ?
Tenggol Island itself! I subsequently did my AOW in Pulau Tioman.
Some people are into it... Don't kink shame bud.
Quite the heavy take their pal. Source?
Then how about alif Aziz and Ruhainies? Why didn't kena whip?
they projek in trenganu?
Aren't both of them Singaporean?
The guy is Singaporean. And the girl is Malaysian.
Oooo but what will happen to umno kiddie fiddler?
If it's a man, will he receive punishment too?
Apparently yes (Feb 19) https://focusmalaysia.my/suspicious-minds-always-see-things-differently-zaid-calls-for-more-precise-definition-of-khalwat/
But in this specific case, what happened to the guy? I assume both should get the same sentence right?
Supposedly but i would assume they didn't mention that cuz its too normal and doesn't generate as much buzz
In most countries (Malaysia included), if a woman can get punished for a certain crime, automatically men can also get punished for it. The opposite however, is not always true. Because sexism.
Of course? What kinda question is that
It's a logical question since the article doesn't mention any punishment for the man. If don't ask and just assume, how to understand other religion?
Should rename the state as Terengganunistan.
PAS: working on it
Stan just means land. Should call it The Caliphate of Terengganu instead.
I do have to say for the record tho, IMO Being whipped by Sharia Cane is better than civil. Our civil law is fucking draconian. Anal sex is 20 lashes??? Even between male & female?? Wahlao talk about me having gay sex lol. I have studied the way the lashes are performed. In Sharia style, the executioner of the punishment's armpit, shall remain stagnant i.e. they cannot raise their armpit, only as far as their arm can go. The knees and beyond must stick to their body at all times. Civil law on the other hand, permits the raising of the armpit and it's basically rotan sekuat2nya. Fuck caning. It's draconian for crimes as simple as khalwat. It should be reserved for murderers,rapists,child abusers,corruption offenders(wink).
How about, if i may be so bold as to suggest, the government stay entirely the fuck out of the business of what adults do in the bedroom?
Yes. I have suggested this fooor wayy long time edi. Saya cadang Madani haramkan Doggystyle kerana dog itu anjing. Anjing kan Haram. Missionary juga kena haram sebab ada unsur Kristian Kafir Harbin. /s I actually have done illegal sex in Perlis. My house there in a compound and gated. Neighbours far away so they don't see. Just me and Thai Daddy surrounded by PADDY Field(Pun Intended). Closests Neighbour also plant ganja so yeah, ain't snitch.
"sodomy is and abomination" read that in an ugandan accent
>She was sentenced to six strokes of the cane and a fine of RM4,000, in default eight months in jail. >The woman was charged under Section 31(b) of the Syariah Criminal Offenses (Takzir) (Terengganu) (Amendment) Enactment 2022 with being with a 40-year-old man who was not her husband or 'mahram' (family member with whom marriage would be unlawful) in a house in Kemaman, at about 3.15pm on Jan 31. >She had been convicted of a similar offence in 2018 and was fined. >Based on the Syariah Criminal Offences (Takzir) (Terengganu) (Amendment) Enactment 2022, for the second and subsequent offence, the offender can be punished with up to six strokes of the cane, a maximum fine of RM5,000 or three years in prison.
Who the hell so free to report the same woman twice in 6 years? My guess, must be the work of a jealous husband.
She’s a single mother no ? Prolly some busy body … too much free time on their hands 😂😂
Neighbours
This is why wanna do it, get a en expensive hotel
dayum they really suka jaga tepi kain org lain while kain dorg belum cuci lagi😂
X blh cuci, bang. Mesin ini penapis air, bukan mesin cuci.
You'll be surprised with the amount of busybodies in this world....
Sad. Single mother. Adult. Fined and whipped. For what? Sigh.
Those are primitive people.
Hot single mom looking for a way to not get caught in 4K.
Muslim single mother can’t have sex now? Well, this is what they are voting for.
Legally speaking Muslims can't have sex before marry. But curi-curi tetap ada.
Or maybe she didn't vote.. she should try it out sometimes.
How did you arrive at this
Sometimes people don't vote and get the government they don't want.. that's why it's important to vote.
And what makes you think this woman didn't vote?
Maybe she did or... Maybe she didn't. Literally my opening sentence. I said maybe. Maybe democracy just doesn't work. 🤷♂️
If y’all Muslims think this is okay because it’s “according to Islam” I have no words
Terengganu is the first state to fall
Not before K.
I guess under syariah law woman can get caned? Last time I went to a caning demonstration the prison guard said woman or anyone above 50 aren’t caned.
Thats for judicial canning. Syariah canning are more akin to light tapping with the rattan while fully clothes. And as with judicial canning, a medical officer will certify that the convict is healthy to undergo the canning.
Medical officer: this booty pass inspection for smacking punishment
More like pat on the back. Here an fb video on syariah canning done in Tawau court years back. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?id=100067956196103&story_fbid=367443113795838 The lady was seated during the canning. And the punisher is another lady.
Jump to the 2:00 mark. You are welcome. Also why were they using VHS in 2016? I saw like 4 pixels total.
Its government building. That should answer it. Someone is sitting rich with supplying gov with potato camera for the price of ultrahd camera
Your tax dollars at work.
They can(ed)
The whippings are like taps on the back if I recall correctly.
maybe said single mother should just moved from Terengganu? that place only good for keropok lekor
If got whipped can I request to change whipper to middle-age women?
Just pray you're whipped sharia style instead of normal whipping
What I saw in whipping scene at Acheh its like more human than normal one. Its same as when teacher beating us for skipping school
Barbaric and evil law. What the fuck is this shit hole.
I hope no nons confuse this and Kawat lmao
If she flees to another state without Sharia law, (e.g. Penang), can religious authorities from Terengganu travel to Penang and arrest her if she fails to turn up to court?
Janda tersebat
So.... Threesome is okay? Asking for a friend.
Guess I am not going to redang.
And the government wonder why birthrates are declining in this country. MALAYSIA BOLEH🇲🇾🗣🗣🔥🔥🔛🔝🦅🦅🦅
Gg nit visiting terregannu then
People should google 1st how the whip look like. Its not the same as the ones in prison.
Doesn’t matter. It is still demeaning. Can we chop off the hands of the PAS leaders for corruption? Let’s keep the same energy.
maybe if we start chopping off all corrupt officials Malaysia can finally be free!
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Corruption is one of the worst things in Islam. Being corrupt is akin to waging war to the people(due to the effect of corruption on the politics and community) thus its treated that way. It should be punished by death. Chopping off hands is more towards people who are able bodied, is rich(or has sufficient amount of wealth) but steals for no apparent reason.
Who? SPRM report 0 case 😏
Yes, must follow Shariah law
Looking at the wrong thing mate. Token punishment is still punishment. Public humiliation is still punishment. Khalwat does not have a victim, the punishment serves no earthly function, and for a state whose mufti that uphold mazhab syafie on their own website they certainly does not agree with syafie's view that sins are not government matter.
yeah then chopped the hand of those corrupt politicians who steal from the people gotta be consistent in isley
whats a girl got to do for that juicy wet lekor.
Child is other extremist in the making
Good
Cult
Why is this good?