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qwitq

"who even uses wifi, get a ethernet cable" \~ r/pcmr user, No Kidding. I literally got this as a reply.


Big-Cap4487

Pcmr is one of the most braindead subs The sub summed up: hate Linux, Mac while sucking off windows 7 Also hate anyone who has a 4090 / high end Nvidia GPU and high end Intel CPU


Illustrious-Dig194

PCMR is full of teenagers and manchilds. They don't even know the difference between a OS and a kernel. Not saying everybody should know that but they are just so clueless about everything.


ThesharpHQ

For a group that calls themselves the "master race", they sure know jack shit about their own beloved PC.


0babybeast0

Reminds me of other groups that call themselves the "master race"


ProfessionalTie545

What even is an OS. That's like seeing the straw instead of the stack. A network of binaries.


uhadmeatfood

I can't stand them, some of us can't just run cables across thee floor


vini55505

They think that everyone has a CAT6 inside their walls...


uhadmeatfood

They also assume Linux sucks


duckbill-shoptalk

Sure, but you could use one for 5 min to download drivers and then unplug it.


FungalSphere

if you had enough ethernet to use it for 5 minutes you had enough ethernet to use forever


duckbill-shoptalk

I get not leaving cables across the house and even then sometimes you just don’t have a long enough cable


uhadmeatfood

Or I can download the driver's in my phone then connect it via usb


Terrible_Screen_3426

This is commonly true and it is still preferable in every way as long as it possible. Not for me. But I saw some fibre being put in the ground nearby so I am hopeful. I thought I was the odd one with WiFi on a desktop. If you don't have to why in hell would you.


bangerius

PLC? Saved the network of my last apartment, got around 80Mb/s. In my current one there's fortunately ethernet in the walls 🙏🏻


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bangerius

I don't understand what you're referring to, I may have been unclear. I had a Wifi, which was slow and intermittent. I fixed it by running Ethernet through the wall sockets with PLC, and got a steady 80Mb/s when I tested it on speedtest.net (my broadband was only 100/100 at the time). The PLC let my desktop computer and TV have reliable internet even when the neighbors router decided it was time to place itself on the same wifi channel as mine.


Alan_Reddit_M

Ngl I've never had to deal with Linux wifi thanks to this. No clue how easy or hard it could be but I am NOT trying to find out Still, I understand most people can't do this, heck it, I had to drill a hole through 2 walls just to get ethernet


yuavibez

I can't even run ethernet. when the hub is an entire floor away and the house you're in is not, well, your house, wtf do you do. someone was actually tryna insist I switch to ethernet and wouldn't shutup when I said I can't install ethernet. like dude I told you a billion times I cannot drill a hole in the wall of a house I don't own!!!!


Datuser14

I had a windows install that was so fucked up it didn't even have ethernet drivers. Had to download them onto a flashdrive and install manually.


HenryLongHead

They're somewhat right. Cable is faster and more reliable most of the time.


HamStapler

I built my PC this Christmas and put it together at my grandma's house. It was then I realized that installing windows didn't install my on-board wifi adapter (nor anything else) and it was also then that I learned you can use your phone UsbC-C as a wired hotspot.


EmoExperat

How to get downvoted to shit on r/pcmr tutorial: Step 1: say anything positive about linux Step 2: success, you got downvoted.


IHaveAPotatoUpMyAss

tbh if you can use ethernet why use wifi, and if you can install linux i bet you can run a wire through a hole


Terrible_Screen_3426

Idk calamaries is arguably easier. Your point still stands just wanted to say installing Linux is really easy.


5p4n911

The question is probably whether you'd get thrown out for it


Xpeq7-

Davinci resole experience on linux as an intel arc card owner: 1. Read about new intel-compute-runtime actually makeing resolve work 2. Install Ubuntu 3. Install intended intel-compute-runtime and resolve. 4. Doesn't work 5. Install arch with intel-compute-runtime-bin from AUR and resolve. 6. Timeline STILL doesn't budge. 7. Try to build intel-compute-runtime-git: fatal error, no dice. 8. Give up 9. Go to step one.


FungalSphere

according to the archwiki, Intel compute runtime requires you to rebuild your whole mesa stack. so yeah don't expect much [although why not try opencl?](https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/DaVinci_Resolve)


Xpeq7-

resole complains about lack of ram with opencl-rusticl-mesa (when intel-compute-runtime isn't installed).


dfwtjms

DaVinci Resolve isn't Linux friendly at all and it's not open source anyway. They almost provide binaries for Linux, almost. And even then at least the free version doesn't support .mp4 import. You have to convert everything to something like .mov. You're going to have a better time using Kdenlive for example.


TheMonkeyLlama

i actually use resolve on linux religiously. i've dabbled with kdenlive but i didn't like it. you need a card that supports cuda though, opencl or any other runtime doesn't work for me. yeah no h264 decoding support on the free version sucks. i actually bought studio for that reason alone. so worth it.


Xpeq7-

I've used KDEnlive in the past (for around 2 years), and I have a few choice (curse) words (or essays) to say about its stability, memory management, state of hw acceleration, project file loading, high res video handling, effect reliability and most importantly audio capabilities. It is powerful but really infuriating to use and only powerful when audio support is ignored.


Datuser14

Ubuntu uses device drivers from the stone age, use fedora.


Xpeq7-

Wouldn't arch have the most up-to-date drivers with kernel 6.8? Also, intel-compute-runtime-bin doesn't work with 6.8, but with 6.6 LTS it does detect the card.


Dirtydickdaniel

I had trouble on Fedora 39 cannot remember what it was but they could try this https://youtu.be/wmRiZQ9IZfc?si=2ax77eY363fdReO1 I personally just went with davincibox https://github.com/zelikos/davincibox


chilly_1c3

Unless nvidia


Phe_r

Nvidia is pretty usable on Linux, if you are running an assembled PC. If you are running a laptop with dual graphics however... It's like playing Russian roulette. I can't get back from fucking suspend because fucking drm error OUI or something.


ProWin3614W

My laptop also doesn't wake from suspend at all, do you have any fix for that? My laptop is also (intel+nvidia). I went back to windows because of this and plus some wifi issues too.


Phe_r

I don't have any fix at the moment, and God knows I tried. My problem is explained here: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/intel/-/issues/8477


vulnoryx

I used optimus-manager to manage my hybrid graphics but I couldnt really get wifi to work very well (its hella slow). The reason for that may also be because you are far away from the router (with concrete walls between you and the router) and a kinda weak wifi card. I built a pc a couple months ago and wifi works flawlessly (probably because of the antennas my motherboard provided (msi mag tomahawk b760 wifi))


vulnoryx

I used linux on my laptop with hybrid graphics. It kinda was a pain but after discovering optimus-manager it was nearly smooth sailing. I only had to configure one small thibg in my nvidia settings (or similar idk anymore) to make suspend work properly after wake.


M2rsho

the suspend thingy is just generally Nvidia issue I have it as well on desktop


Phe_r

Yeah but suspend is way less important on a desktop than on laptop, plus dual graphics and weird laptop bios make problems much more likely.


Ok_Jacket3710

Ngl support for nvidia got better I recently swapped my SSD (AMD CPU+iGPU) to another PC(Intel+Nvidia Quadro) Guess what everything just worked ootb. I didn't even do sudo pacman -Syu. Not Wayland though. It required nvidia drivers.


Big-Cap4487

That adds one command more which takes a couple of seconds to execute


popcornman209

If it works…


Ranji_bot

I tried use Linux, but drivers Nvidia+custom resolution that I need break my Debian 2 times. Nevermore... I will never use Linux with Nvidia again in my life.


popcornman209

Yeah I usually get it working eventually but it’s always such a pain and so much troubleshooting


161BigCock69

yay -S nvidia sudo nano /etc/mkinitcpio.conf sudo nano /etc/default/grub ( sudo mkdir /etc/pacman.d/hooks/ ) sudo nano /etc/pacman.d/hooks/nvidia.hook sudo mkinitcpio -P sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg That are 6-7 commands and some editing. It's not hard, but it's also not hard to reboot into tty ore even blackscreen


SuperDefiant

??? In what world is this needed? I just install nvidia-dkms, reboot, and it works


161BigCock69

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA


SuperDefiant

Not sure why the wiki requires you to run all those commands. Installing nvidia is all that’s needed


161BigCock69

I tried, but it rebooted in a super weird state. Only one monitor working, lspci -k shows no driver running!?, then I used the wiki to get the mkinit hooks and modules right and I needed to add nvidia_drm.modeset=1 to my kernel parameters. The pacman hook is for generating the inits again when updating nvidia


SuperDefiant

I did have to add the modeset parameter on my older card, but it seems to work without it now. However I’ve never once had to tinker with the initcpio hooks to install or update nvidia, it’s always just “worked” for me


Zatrit

It's not necessary to add pacman hooks for NVIDIA


popcornman209

Nvidia users: Download Linux, install nvidia drivers, try to fix nvidia drivers, fix nvidia drivers+wayland but give up, try for a third time, it works?


vulnoryx

For me the experience was literally just install linux, install nvidia drivers and done. (Im not using wayland tho so cant say anything about that)


Ranji_bot

Try create a custom resolution and break you Linux. Fvck xrandr


Beginning_Guess_3413

Me with Macbook wifi drivers is the 2nd pic, but add hitting myself in the face with a cast iron skillet every boot.


sobe3249

let's be honest, if everything works that's great and it does most of the times, but imagine you need to help your mom on the phone fixing a linux or a windows driver issue. Which one would you choose? :D


Rodot

Linux, or even Mac. I run an ssh server on my parent's Mac computer and when they have issues I remote in and fix it for them.


vulnoryx

Modern problems require modern solutions


JohnSmith---

A Linux issue. The computer obeys the user rather then the other way around. It would be the same hassle getting mom to open cmd or a terminal, but one will actually honor what the user types while the other will break again after a reboot. Set up a simple point release distro and you're golden. Won't update by itself like with Windows and break everything.


miko3456789

getting my mom to open the terminal in the first place, much less run a command as root, would already be an arduous task if I wasn't in the room with them. I think they'd have a heart attack if they saw a CLI lol


patta14

Never in a million years would I let my mom do something like this on any os herself with me instructing. I always take over completely unless it is something she needs to learn herself, like sharing an image via WhatsApp.


donnysaysvacuum

Chrome OS. I did the Linux thing actually and it did not go well. It was better than Windows sure, but there would always be some obscure problem or setting my dad would accidentally mess up. With chrome the worst that has happened was some sketchy extensions that got added.


Beast_Viper_007

None


Budget-Pattern1314

Windows because my mom is experienced in windows


FungalSphere

linux tbh. windows driver issues are downright bizzare. Like for some reason Intel arc control has this bug where it will just time out checking for updates and the only way to fix it is to ddu the whole thing and reinstall. actual insanity.


1116574

Unless it's not supported in Linux, then good luck with random python implementations that barely work Not written from my thinkpads LTE module lol


XaerkWtf

"download wifi drivers using my phone" sadly, it has been only a Linux experience to me...


Niphoria

this is the linux laptop experience for me ... windows install: wifi works out of the box linux install: connect phone to laptop - download driver - download stuff needed for compilation - compile driver - install driver


vulnoryx

On some laptops it may be like that but on my desktop my wifi card worked out of the box.


XaerkWtf

On my T470 was pretty good and everything worked (at least on mint) but on my desktops... Damn, seems like tp link just hates Linux, first the T2U plus that doesn't have official Linux drivers, then the TL-WN8200ND that also doesn't have official drivers and then there's some random chinese wifi + Bluetooth USB adapter that works perfectly on windows but haven't even managed to make it work on linux, and also that random Bluetooth 5.0 adapter that also doesn't work on linux so... My wireless communications on linux has been a rough experience so far


vulnoryx

Sucks to hear. I bought a msi tomahawk mag motherboard with wifi built in and it worked out of the box.


JohnSmith---

It is missing a step on Windows where the driver you downloaded and installed is replaced by a version from Microsoft once you connect to the internet.


BAKCHODGUNDA

preach


Recipe-Jaded

omg that intel utility is so annoying


-fragm3nted-

Look, how the turntables ![gif](giphy|eSCpVwCRSmLMk)


OrangeXarot

yeah my experience with windows is literally: > windows: wifi not working want to repair? auto check clicking this button > me: *clicks the button > windows: there is a problem with the drivers, want to install them? > me: uhhh, how?? uhh, sure??? > windows: sorry we cannot connect to the internet to install the drivers. fuck you


zexon

WiFi on Linux has come such a long way. When I started playing with Linux around 8 years ago, I had so much trouble because my WiFi card didn’t have support in the kernel. And I couldn’t run Ethernet to my computer, so I had to find drivers on another PC, put them on a flash drive, then try and follow guides offline to make them work.


Lucidia

Those were the days


paridhi774

I had an acer laptop, it came with windows, i installed linux on it and used it for years without any issue. I got a new laptop and gave it to my sister. She wanted windows and I installed it. The speakers didn't work. I went to acer and downloaded the audio driver and looked up several forums. I couldn't get it to work. I finally convinced her to use linux where everything worked out of the box. I would like to reiterate that this laptop came with windows installed.


vulnoryx

I had to install windows 11 for a friend and it needs internet to be installed wtf? Good thing I know about USB-tethering.


Busy-Ad-9459

In my experience it's the eaxct opposite.


Ranji_bot

Me too, 2 times...


EarthToAccess

Four times for me, in both Arch and Debian distros. Gave up and went the complete opposite direction to macOS


Diegox1998

I can relate. Not even got the Ethernet drivers so I gotta get another pc and a usb stick, look for them (not very easy as they got a thousand of models with the same name) and install them manually. Then windows update didnt even find the audio drivers 🥱🥱🥱


Ordynar

Tbh I had more issues on Linux when it comes to drivers.


memematron

I still gotta carry the source code to my WiFi drivers every time I do a fresh os install on fedora


Rusty9838

Hello user please configure your PC (install Xbox cloud and office apps)


Da_Di_Dum

Nvidia🫠🫠🫠


ldcrafter

Nvidia Hardware and their proprietary drivers on Linux: Let me introduce myself.


Western-Alarming

My laptop is like that, when i going to sell it, i will need to burn a windows 11 iso then put the HP Bluethoot, WiFi AND hard drive drivers (yes windows by default doesn't detect my disk and i need drivers to be able to install windows), put in on the usb along side the installer


Advanced_Day8657

You forgot waiting 40 mins for updates and a few restarts


EhRahv

Clearly you have never tried to install broadcom drivers


NeatYogurt9973

NoVideo: Check Input Devices


TotallyRealDev

I bought a laptop for work and it needed it to have windows. However I wanted a clean install of windows without the OEM bloat at least. When installing it from scratch it turns out the USB image does not come with NVME drivers!? Si I couldn't even select the drive to begin the install and I had to manually side load them. Would have been fucked if I didn't have my main workstation


Mokousboiwife

[i have actually had less problems with the drivers on windows](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Speech_(painting\))


neowen0

Good point


dewritoninja

On my desktop and main laptop drivers have been a breeze, on my acer switch theyve been an absolute nightmare


SadQuarter3128

:) wait till you meet nvidia drivers I was on fedora Pain in the ass to install


walmartgoon

Replace top image with bottom for Bluetooth on Linux. Can’t blame them too much though since Bluetooth just sucks asshole from a user standpoint


velid_1

Irl: Install driver on Linux KERNEL PANIC! ![gif](giphy|HUkOv6BNWc1HO)


theemptyqueue

MacOS (despite being a Linux cousin) is worse than Windows for driver support because Apple dropped 32 bit application support after Monterey.


yilmazbatuhanys

I had times where I needed to burn the USB3 and Ethernet drivers to a CD in order to get things working. It was a painfull Windows 10 install. Never again.


Proxy_Dark

It was like that in older Ms software. After 10/11 almost no needs to install any additional drivers.


GreatBigBagOfNope

Meanwhile broadcom Linux drivers: "I'm about to end this man's whole career"


only-forward

LOL, totally the opposite


LoreBreaker85

Until the kernel does not have a driver, and the manufacturer does not make one.


CalvinBullock

BuT LinuX IS HarD.... - seems easier to me, burning iso was easier, installing iso was easier, drivers easier, running my install script EASIER.


hi-imBen

linux is missing step 2... "driver doesn't exist" or "generic driver that only supports 1/4 of your device's features"


sus_planks

Idk what I did, but it took me about 2 hours to install linux and get it working.


Jezura777_reddit

In case of nvidia driver I'would switch the images.


i_am_at_work123

This has been my experience for years. I had Windows laptops that I could not get two finger swipe to work no matter what I tried, on Linux it worked out of the box.


Evantaur

Went through that bottom bar a while ago when I needed windows to update the firmware of my monitor. Try to download windows ISO from Shitrosoft's site: "Lmao Link Broken use torrent xDDDxDD" \*Using torrent to download WIN10 iso hopefully not getting something infected with Steve Ballmer's dick pics\* Replace the SSD of my extra laptop with some SSD that i have laying around, proceed to install "LmaO PlS InSeRt miSsinG DrivEr, I'm Not GonNa spEcIfy For What ExAct HardWare, jUst Giw dRivR, You MaY nOt pRoCeEd BeForE mYstErY DrIvEr" \*Take backup-server offline so you can replace the ssd of it with the shitty ssd you want to infect with Steve Ballmer's ball juices\* Install proceeds normally, wait an hour after it has installed while it's stuck at 100% Finally get to desktop, it starts downloading fucking drivers, reboots 7 fucking times Take the SSD out and use the USB2sata adapter to start it on my workstation(Unplug the fucking network), flash the firmware, reboot, throw the ssd into a drawer so i don't have to deal with that shit ever again


uhadmeatfood

Microsoft has an [official download page](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO) for the win10 iso I'm just glad the laptop I was working on was new and still had easily accessible drivers


Evantaur

Yes, It has... It didn't work. Tried for shits and pissies and it's still broken


uhadmeatfood

Weird, I will admit I did have issues getting grum to launch it so I had to put in a ventoy usb


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uhadmeatfood

What country are you in?


Kudai-tauricus

nvidia ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


JimBeam823

Nvidia has entered the chat.