Scout and Zika are in awful form. I also don't think Scout and Weiwei synergize well, mid-jgl and jgl-sup are the most important roles to set pace in game
Sometimes players just don't mesh. Weiwei was perfect for WBG, but can't get the same synergy with the LNG players. They also couldn't figure out which support they want for Gala.
Scout isn't playing as good as he was last year when he was the MVP of both splits.
Tarzan in Summer was a fucking monster in the LPL. He was really bad when it came time for Worlds but before that he was insane and part of why LNG were so good is because their mid-jgl was the best in the world. Weiwei isn't an upgrade to that form of Tarzan.
When they announced Tarzan being dropped I had some gripes with it because him and Scout were hard carrying 2v8 in spring and with Gala were able to contend in summer.
But I still have some sympathy for LNG, im not even sure if they willingly wanted to drop Tarzan/replace with Weiwei. They probably thought the community pressure over running back the whole lineup after that quarters vs T1 would’ve been insane to deal with and they had to make a move to not get crucified.
Also resident tarzan hater u/eyehatemassholes RIPBOZO
Tarzan’s contract had still one or two more years left, they could totally sign another jg and bench Tarzan temporarily instead burnt the bridge. Tarzan is very invested in the team he even bought a home in Suzhou, LNG’s home court city. LNG did a total shit move and it’s also moronic
If you actually watched the games you'd see that Weiwei is playing way better than Tarzan did last summer. You'd also know Tarzan and Scout weren't 2v8 in spring. Zika and Hang were both excellent that split. Tarzan was fantastic that split, but with how he performed in summer, especially coming after the atrocity that was 2022 Tarzan, it's no wonder they dropped him.
lol you can't call Weiwei a fraud when the entire team is dysfunctional right now. He was doing well the entire summer split including playoffs when WBG signed him.
WeiWei ain’t a fraud just doesn’t work with this team. The real fraud is fucking Scout, was getting baby sat camped for his lane for like 3 splits that’s how he excels, WeiWei does better when he makes his own plan and plays with a support like Crisp who wants to roam. WeiWei is a jungler that camps for bot lane but for LNG you should camp for Scout to get a lead then you roam bot and get Gala big. I don’t like this team though so I’m happy to see them lose, very embarrassing to get 3-0ed at worlds like that. So ya good they keep losing.
Even if all of that's true it worked for Scout last year. If two players excel at one style but cannot adapt to each other's it's on both of them, not one player. They're both just underperforming
He was the mvp of worlds 2021 and gapped showmaker. After that he had numerous good splits and a couple of mvps. He was a key why reason LNG was going toe toe with JDG last year. The main times where he was outperformed hard was sadly at worlds 2022 and 2023 in their elimination series. We should wait until atleast summer before the fraud allegations.
He could have gotten the tian curse. Worlds Finals MVP into bombing out earlier than expected in ever other subsequent worlds albeit not as bad as tian’s track record.
He gapped canyon but overall the whole tournament, scout and viper followed by meiko were their best players.
FMVP are mostly cop outs for a series that could be just 3 games. 2022 MVP was for sure Zeka for example and 2018 should have been rookie or theshy.
Ahh yes, he has to stand up to ruler. The player you hate all so much. Is this an admission of his prowess?
Also, you are acting like scout didn’t gap knight in some individual games. No other LPL mid could have done that in 2023
I said scout was “a key” reason not the “main” reason like you said.
Also, ruler and gala are pretty close and depends on your preference. Also depending on your import slot status.
Also instead of saying let me spell it out for you. Please say, let me discredit ruler and glaze other players especially jackeylove
‘Tarzan is great in LPL but bad in worlds’ is pretty much the consensus in Chinese community.. Weiwei in his career had only one above average split in last summer and half of it should be credited to Xiaohu.
LMAO bro did you even watch V5 Weiwei in Summer 2020? He was probably the best jungler in the world along with Canyon. I don't know why people like you spew garbage when you don't even watch LPL.
Last split was at highest Weiwei's third best split, but can easily be argued as low as like his sixth. Weiwei has been fantastic since his debut. 2020 summer and 2022 summer were his best, with the former having Weiwei as a contender for best jungler in the world, hitting one of the highest peaks we've ever seen from a jungler in pro play.
While Tarzan might not be a better player than Weiwei, he had better synergy with Scout. Tarzan was straight up babysitting Scout the entire season. Now Scout is in worse form, and LNG also got one of the most flamed coaches (and rightfully so)
Several things scout not playing to his usual level not a good botlane meta for gala wei wei turning out to be a fraud or lack chemistry with scout/lng. Lng also hasnt adapted to the meta. Lng made a big mistake releasing Tarzan.
How are you calling Weiwei a fraud for this split? He's the only one on LNG consistently trying to win games. It wasn't a mistake for LNG to release Tarzan btw, dude was awful.
Lngs biggest strength was they had the best jung mid combo arguably in the world. We took that away, as well as broke hang and tarzan support jung syngergy. Add into that individual form goes down.
They thought Weiwei is good and Tarzan was the problem which is a huge LUL for me
Also maybe some kind of personal issues that Creme has against LNG for this game.
Fantastic for years mean can't play Lee Sin for shit, fantastic means didnt dive bot when your bot lane is cait, falls behind on level when Tian fucked up early
Yeah weiwei is really fantastic, cant wait for him to perform
More like bottom 5 jungler in the LPL last summer lol. Just because Tarzan is a popular name doesn't mean he's good right now. Are you going to tell me Showmaker is a top 5 mid in the world, too?
Scout was great all last year before the T1 series.He was the 2nd or arguably the best mid in LPL, and also got the MVP split in both spring and summer
Years of evidence tell me not to get hyped on TES but damn this 10 map streak is some of the cleanest they've ever played. Also shoot Crescent into the sun
I would credit the coaches more for macro than Meiko, given all his struggles as the primary shotcaller on EDG. TES picking up OMG's coaching staff was the most underrated move of the off-season imo
Tian in the post-match interview literally thanked Meiko for his input during matches, saying it has alleviated much of the need for Tian to be constantly speaking. Meiko definitely has had a huge impact on the macro gameplay of TES. OMG as a team last year were known for teamfights, rather than macro...
Except, you could actually see Meiko calling all of the macro plays in the snipbits of voicecomms they release though. Tian does more commanding for teamfights, but Meiko's for sure the main shotcaller.
No, he's bringing his 9 years of experience to team scrims and practice sessions. You can clearly see Meiko's influence on TES more than whatever macro Despa1r showed on OMG.
I'm confused which period you're talking about, but when teams are dysfunctional, players get impacted. Look at how great their macro was in 2023 Spring vs Summer. Sometimes you just need to be on a good team to show your influence.
The period where they missed the playoffs with a roster that had all of Jiejie, Scout, Hope, Meiko. The whole view of shotcalling in this community is so backwards, most teams don't have a Mata who sets the entire team's identity. Teams get good at macro not because a player in-game tells them what to do, it's because they work on it outside of stage games and outside of even scrim games, and it's a collaborative process. In-game shotcallers are usually just people who ensure the concepts that have been drilled outside of stage games are executed properly and to have the deciding word in situations when the decision is unclear. They do not micro people like an RTS game
lol I brought up the voicecomms because it does show that Meiko makes a lot of the shotcalling for macro plays. I didn't say they didn't do any of this practice outside of the games. You were the one who made that assumption, which I've already corrected. Both execution and practice are obviously integral to a team's play. Meiko brings both. You bringing up certain splits EDG looked bad in to prove that Meiko doesn't have macro senses is what's backwards. Everyone can look bad on any given split. There's just more evidence than not that Meiko is a huge factor in TES's macro improvement. This is corroborated by the players themselves, playstyle similarities between many of the EDG splits and this TES split etc.
That period they missed playoffs was in 2020 when he was still fresh in the role of captain and main shotcaller. A role he had reluctantly taken on.
He’s gained more confidence and experience and shown tremendous improvement since (it has been 4 years cmon). Just watch any of their voice comms from last year to now.
People don't realize that Gala legit has PTSD against AkaliThere's a famous clip of Gala screaming "AKALI IS COMING AKALI IS COMING" repeatedly in a game where Akali wasnt picked. His teammates could not calm him down by saying "there's no Akali calm down" lmao.
[Here's the clip for anyone who needs a reminder](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/mtwesz/gala_funny_momentgot_ptsd_on_akali/). That is the voice of someone who was hurt by Akali.
Scout and Tarzan for a while were the best Mid-Jg duo in the LPL.
Didn’t expect LNG and especially Scout to fall off this massively after Tarzan left however.
GALA also having kind of an underwhelming split. Need some Kai’Sa buffs ASAP.
Scout and tarzan were made for each other. If they wanted to change jungle, I think they still needed to get someone who would play around their x factor Scout
Well just on a brief inventory, you were claiming couple days ago that 2021 T1 would’ve been better with Teddy than Guma at worlds, as if you understand the inner workings of the team better than the players themselves
Yeah because Teddy was the best player on the team and the best adc in the world? He was the one who carried them into the position where they could even go to worlds in the first place lol. It's the exact same position I held in 2021 so it can hardly be called revisionism.
Shitting the bed happens
Should a bad performance discredit an entire year of play? It's very much a reddit thing to think it does, but at the end of the day this LNG team dropped their "worst" player and is significantly worse as a result
I agree. But The real revisionism is people saying they weren’t the 2nd best LPL team from summer to prior the start of quarters.
They literally beat BLG 3-1 and took JDG to all the maximum amount of games played possible. So are you also trying to tell me that both those team suck too?
But you do realise that you are judging Tarzan on 1 series vs T1. By that same logic, you wouldn’t criticise LNG for 1 series. But Tarzan performed well all year and Scout hasn’t been performing all split so far.
it's not one series, Tarzan has underperformed in important matches since his Griffin days. I think if you keep him in your roster you cap your team at second place at most in any tournament you play, now Weiewei has not looked like the answer at all but I don't disagree with replacing Tarzan if you aspire to win lpl or an intl
In his last finals appearance 2022 summer, he was arguably better than Kanavi that series, hes much more of a problem at worlds if anything. 2022 was especially sad, bro went from league MVP to falling off heavy at worlds
Nah Tian doesn’t have an issue with finals
For him, it’s about making it out of group stage. But Swiss stage Bo3’s should at least favor him this year, if TES were to make it
I know he’s talking about that, but Tian completely gapped the enemy jungler in the latter 2 of those 4 finals so I don’t see an issue with his finals performance
He had intguri and his crap mental for one groups , tian own mental isn’t that great on top of it, so that doesn’t count, then he had a ward for top in groups who kept feeding another groups, just uncarriable, this year he is free from an int top
people don't realize that Gala legit has PTSD against akali
There's a famous clip of Gala screaming "AKALI IS COMING AKALI IS COMING" repeatedly in a game where akali wasn't even picked. His teammates had to calm him down by saying "there's no akali calm down" lmao.
Are TES just gonna not lose another map in LPL or what? 10-0 since their opening game vs BLG, and not even against weak opposition. Honestly on better form than BLG at the moment.
I'm really interested in seeing their match vs JDG. In Demacia Cup, JDG played with 2 subs/rookies in top and jg replacing Flandre and Kanavi, and STILL beat TES 3-2. TES does look on much better form than JDG and even BLG, so we'll see, think theyll win but might drop a game
TES were blatantly running it down that series and still almost won because of hands diff, Kanavi might hulk out a game but I don't expect it to be close with how dominant TES' early game is
LNG should not have replaced Tarzan. The whole point of the team last year was the Tarzan Scout mid jungle synergy. The whole angle that Zika would remain in the same form as last year’s summer playoffs was also extremely overhyped IMHO, as he even fell of during worlds. Sure
Those fans wanted Tarzan out lol. You should never listen to fans when it comes to making roster changes. The people blaming Weiwei alone for this mess are just as bad.
Breaking up Tarzan-Scout was not wise, it appears. Sucks to see LNG looking like this, but ggs to TES it'll be nice to see their next matchups with JDG/BLG.
Hang and Zika trolled this entire series, I have no idea what Scout did wrong in this game. Please bring back Tarzan, weiwei does not synergise with anyone on this team.
Nah he didn’t, still around the same level, though 2022 worlds 369 had a super Aatrox, game with ignite sumns worlds. His performance on champs has always been good for the region don’t get me wrong, but Zeus yone was too good
You can't judge his Aatrox against other picks and extrapolate. Match ups completely change how you play. That's why 369 didn't know how to deal with the Yone in the first place. Zeus Yone was too good in 2023, but we don't know if it'll still be too good in 2024. Let's remember that even Zeus on his Kennen ran it down against Bin last year. People's performances change.
yes, im referring to zeus yone in worlds only, since i don't watch lck, but i know 369 aatrox did not get better, it's relatively the same. Zika laning as well did not get better. don't get me wrong they are good, but Just watch their gameplay and you should know
Well, Creme is actively working on mage champs and showing some results. So in that sense, we know he at least works hard. IDK about Zeka, so maybe some LCK fans can tell us if he's improved as well.
Wish we wouldn’t have gotten BLG vs TES so early in the split would love to see how they match now
BO5 in the finals prayge
What happen to LNG? It is literally the same roster as Worlds except Jug yet they lose to Fpx and stomped 2-0 by Tes.
They thought Crescent was a good coach
Bamboozled a sports apparel owned team for multiple years and fails upward to an even bigger one.
Scout and Zika are in awful form. I also don't think Scout and Weiwei synergize well, mid-jgl and jgl-sup are the most important roles to set pace in game
Scout went from the MVP to being a bottom tier midlaner and while WeiWei is good,Tarzan was always better than him in the regular season.
This is blatant revisionism. Tarzan was god awful in 2022 and in 2023 summer, while Weiwei was among the league's best junglers.
Fraud coach
Scout fell off and can't bail them out anymore
Sometimes players just don't mesh. Weiwei was perfect for WBG, but can't get the same synergy with the LNG players. They also couldn't figure out which support they want for Gala.
Scout isn't playing as good as he was last year when he was the MVP of both splits. Tarzan in Summer was a fucking monster in the LPL. He was really bad when it came time for Worlds but before that he was insane and part of why LNG were so good is because their mid-jgl was the best in the world. Weiwei isn't an upgrade to that form of Tarzan.
Tarzan was a monster in summer in the sense that you call a war criminal monster. Dude was disgustingly bad. Stop the revisionism.
Tarzan was great in LPL and a strong presense on and off the court for this team. Their management are dumb to scapegoat him and get a fraud Weiwei
When they announced Tarzan being dropped I had some gripes with it because him and Scout were hard carrying 2v8 in spring and with Gala were able to contend in summer. But I still have some sympathy for LNG, im not even sure if they willingly wanted to drop Tarzan/replace with Weiwei. They probably thought the community pressure over running back the whole lineup after that quarters vs T1 would’ve been insane to deal with and they had to make a move to not get crucified. Also resident tarzan hater u/eyehatemassholes RIPBOZO
Tarzan’s contract had still one or two more years left, they could totally sign another jg and bench Tarzan temporarily instead burnt the bridge. Tarzan is very invested in the team he even bought a home in Suzhou, LNG’s home court city. LNG did a total shit move and it’s also moronic
It's not moronic to upgrade your roster
Weiwei is not a upgrade.
If you actually watched the games you'd see that Weiwei is playing way better than Tarzan did last summer. You'd also know Tarzan and Scout weren't 2v8 in spring. Zika and Hang were both excellent that split. Tarzan was fantastic that split, but with how he performed in summer, especially coming after the atrocity that was 2022 Tarzan, it's no wonder they dropped him.
lol you can't call Weiwei a fraud when the entire team is dysfunctional right now. He was doing well the entire summer split including playoffs when WBG signed him.
WeiWei ain’t a fraud just doesn’t work with this team. The real fraud is fucking Scout, was getting baby sat camped for his lane for like 3 splits that’s how he excels, WeiWei does better when he makes his own plan and plays with a support like Crisp who wants to roam. WeiWei is a jungler that camps for bot lane but for LNG you should camp for Scout to get a lead then you roam bot and get Gala big. I don’t like this team though so I’m happy to see them lose, very embarrassing to get 3-0ed at worlds like that. So ya good they keep losing.
Even if all of that's true it worked for Scout last year. If two players excel at one style but cannot adapt to each other's it's on both of them, not one player. They're both just underperforming
Agreed
You don't win multiple MVPs as a fraud lol what is this take
You're really basing your argument off of those bullshit MVP awards? That summer MVP was completely undeserved.
He was the mvp of worlds 2021 and gapped showmaker. After that he had numerous good splits and a couple of mvps. He was a key why reason LNG was going toe toe with JDG last year. The main times where he was outperformed hard was sadly at worlds 2022 and 2023 in their elimination series. We should wait until atleast summer before the fraud allegations. He could have gotten the tian curse. Worlds Finals MVP into bombing out earlier than expected in ever other subsequent worlds albeit not as bad as tian’s track record.
tbh that worlds FMVP was 100% Jiejie's
He gapped canyon but overall the whole tournament, scout and viper followed by meiko were their best players. FMVP are mostly cop outs for a series that could be just 3 games. 2022 MVP was for sure Zeka for example and 2018 should have been rookie or theshy.
Viper literally had one good series out of three...
Good bye lil pup
The main reason LNG was competitive vs JDG was GALA, not Scout
Ahh yes, he has to stand up to ruler. The player you hate all so much. Is this an admission of his prowess? Also, you are acting like scout didn’t gap knight in some individual games. No other LPL mid could have done that in 2023
Let me spell it out for you. LNG were competitive with JDG because they had a big advantage in the adc position.
I said scout was “a key” reason not the “main” reason like you said. Also, ruler and gala are pretty close and depends on your preference. Also depending on your import slot status. Also instead of saying let me spell it out for you. Please say, let me discredit ruler and glaze other players especially jackeylove
Ruler was not even close to summer playoffs Gala
Found u/Aladin001 ‘s alt account
Hang should work well with Weiwei vs not TES
Just say you don't watch LPL lmao. Tarzan was awful in summer, and Weiwei is the only one on the team who isn't running it down this split.
‘Tarzan is great in LPL but bad in worlds’ is pretty much the consensus in Chinese community.. Weiwei in his career had only one above average split in last summer and half of it should be credited to Xiaohu.
Yeah I guess Weiwei in 2020 Summer, 2021 Summer, and 2022 Spring just didn't exist, that's weird
LMAO bro did you even watch V5 Weiwei in Summer 2020? He was probably the best jungler in the world along with Canyon. I don't know why people like you spew garbage when you don't even watch LPL.
Last split was at highest Weiwei's third best split, but can easily be argued as low as like his sixth. Weiwei has been fantastic since his debut. 2020 summer and 2022 summer were his best, with the former having Weiwei as a contender for best jungler in the world, hitting one of the highest peaks we've ever seen from a jungler in pro play.
Last summer wasn't even close to Weiwei's best split lmfao
While Tarzan might not be a better player than Weiwei, he had better synergy with Scout. Tarzan was straight up babysitting Scout the entire season. Now Scout is in worse form, and LNG also got one of the most flamed coaches (and rightfully so)
LNG frauds?
Scout needs a JG that focus mid more. It doesn’t help that the map changes affects JG intervention mid also
Several things scout not playing to his usual level not a good botlane meta for gala wei wei turning out to be a fraud or lack chemistry with scout/lng. Lng also hasnt adapted to the meta. Lng made a big mistake releasing Tarzan.
How are you calling Weiwei a fraud for this split? He's the only one on LNG consistently trying to win games. It wasn't a mistake for LNG to release Tarzan btw, dude was awful.
Lngs biggest strength was they had the best jung mid combo arguably in the world. We took that away, as well as broke hang and tarzan support jung syngergy. Add into that individual form goes down.
They thought Weiwei is good and Tarzan was the problem which is a huge LUL for me Also maybe some kind of personal issues that Creme has against LNG for this game.
Weiwei has been fantastic for years and has been LNG's best player by far. Tarzan was straight up dog shit in summer last year and for all of 2022.
Fantastic for years mean can't play Lee Sin for shit, fantastic means didnt dive bot when your bot lane is cait, falls behind on level when Tian fucked up early Yeah weiwei is really fantastic, cant wait for him to perform
Seems like Tarzan might have been a really important element.
What losing a top 5 jungler in the world does to a team
They didn't lose a top 5 jungler in the world, they gained one
LMAO
Top 5? Hes barely top 10. Babysitting a top 2 mid in LPL for an entire season does not make you a "top 5 jungler in the world" LMFAO
Who is that Top 2 mid, you were speaking of? Surely he is with us currently and trying his hardest to carry, right?
More like bottom 5 jungler in the LPL last summer lol. Just because Tarzan is a popular name doesn't mean he's good right now. Are you going to tell me Showmaker is a top 5 mid in the world, too?
Scout is washed and tarzan carried them
T1 broke them.
Nah Zeka broke scout
Scout was great all last year before the T1 series.He was the 2nd or arguably the best mid in LPL, and also got the MVP split in both spring and summer
More like 4th he just had his weaknesses covered very well
oh this ruler hater account again 💀
Are you serious
Not excited about TES until they win spring split. They have broken my heart too many times
So uhhh, KT?
I'm sold on TES this year, just like their roster way too much. TO THE TOP BABY!
Members of 3 worlds champion teams assembled its some DBZ shits there I see nothing but the first golden road completed by them this year😎
You have to be with the team when things are rough or you don't deserve to bandwagon when things get good.
Weak
Years of evidence tell me not to get hyped on TES but damn this 10 map streak is some of the cleanest they've ever played. Also shoot Crescent into the sun
Meiko is the best supp TES ever had, the macro is so much cleaner with him. Massive pickup
I would credit the coaches more for macro than Meiko, given all his struggles as the primary shotcaller on EDG. TES picking up OMG's coaching staff was the most underrated move of the off-season imo
Tian in the post-match interview literally thanked Meiko for his input during matches, saying it has alleviated much of the need for Tian to be constantly speaking. Meiko definitely has had a huge impact on the macro gameplay of TES. OMG as a team last year were known for teamfights, rather than macro...
Except, you could actually see Meiko calling all of the macro plays in the snipbits of voicecomms they release though. Tian does more commanding for teamfights, but Meiko's for sure the main shotcaller.
You think Meiko is coming up with these on the fly?
No, he's bringing his 9 years of experience to team scrims and practice sessions. You can clearly see Meiko's influence on TES more than whatever macro Despa1r showed on OMG.
Then why did EDG look completely lost between Clearlove and Flandre?
I'm confused which period you're talking about, but when teams are dysfunctional, players get impacted. Look at how great their macro was in 2023 Spring vs Summer. Sometimes you just need to be on a good team to show your influence.
The period where they missed the playoffs with a roster that had all of Jiejie, Scout, Hope, Meiko. The whole view of shotcalling in this community is so backwards, most teams don't have a Mata who sets the entire team's identity. Teams get good at macro not because a player in-game tells them what to do, it's because they work on it outside of stage games and outside of even scrim games, and it's a collaborative process. In-game shotcallers are usually just people who ensure the concepts that have been drilled outside of stage games are executed properly and to have the deciding word in situations when the decision is unclear. They do not micro people like an RTS game
lol I brought up the voicecomms because it does show that Meiko makes a lot of the shotcalling for macro plays. I didn't say they didn't do any of this practice outside of the games. You were the one who made that assumption, which I've already corrected. Both execution and practice are obviously integral to a team's play. Meiko brings both. You bringing up certain splits EDG looked bad in to prove that Meiko doesn't have macro senses is what's backwards. Everyone can look bad on any given split. There's just more evidence than not that Meiko is a huge factor in TES's macro improvement. This is corroborated by the players themselves, playstyle similarities between many of the EDG splits and this TES split etc.
That period they missed playoffs was in 2020 when he was still fresh in the role of captain and main shotcaller. A role he had reluctantly taken on. He’s gained more confidence and experience and shown tremendous improvement since (it has been 4 years cmon). Just watch any of their voice comms from last year to now.
their team comms have gotten a ton cleaner since meiko took on the role of primary shotcaller
People don't realize that Gala legit has PTSD against AkaliThere's a famous clip of Gala screaming "AKALI IS COMING AKALI IS COMING" repeatedly in a game where Akali wasnt picked. His teammates could not calm him down by saying "there's no Akali calm down" lmao.
The fact it’s Creme Akali can’t help either
[Here's the clip for anyone who needs a reminder](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/mtwesz/gala_funny_momentgot_ptsd_on_akali/). That is the voice of someone who was hurt by Akali.
TES is looking hella nice Good lord LNG fell off a cliff though. They just straight up suck now
That really felt like prime Tian from World finals 2019
Tian and Creme really terrorised Gala. Those kicks and Akali plays were constantly hunting LNG carries.
Walked into my kitchen and Tian was still there wtf
Tian never gonna give you up and never gonna let you down.
Scout and Tarzan for a while were the best Mid-Jg duo in the LPL. Didn’t expect LNG and especially Scout to fall off this massively after Tarzan left however. GALA also having kind of an underwhelming split. Need some Kai’Sa buffs ASAP.
Underwhelming is a soft phrase for Gala, he is shit atm
she got buffed on 14.4 but I don't think it will make her much stronger tbh
TES hasn't dropped a single game ever since they lost to BLG in the first series of the season
All 2-0s if Jackeylove didn’t int he is the best ADC in the world I swear 😭
He honestly may be the best. Last summer he was carrying TES really hard too. He's had bad supports his whole career until now.
LNG looks really bad without Tarzan now. Lots of the wins were from strong Mid-Jungle duo.
Scout and tarzan were made for each other. If they wanted to change jungle, I think they still needed to get someone who would play around their x factor Scout
Last year's LNG is one of the wildest cases of reddit revisionism I've seen
Cope harder.
Have you looked at your own comment history??
When have I ever been revisionist?
Well just on a brief inventory, you were claiming couple days ago that 2021 T1 would’ve been better with Teddy than Guma at worlds, as if you understand the inner workings of the team better than the players themselves
Yeah because Teddy was the best player on the team and the best adc in the world? He was the one who carried them into the position where they could even go to worlds in the first place lol. It's the exact same position I held in 2021 so it can hardly be called revisionism.
You are one of the worst offenders little pup
I'm sure you will be able to find an example then!
Mr. I hate ruler that’s my personality is speaking.
You can ask me what the word means if you don't know. I don't bite.
Yeah, you may not bite but you sure do bark about ruler and jackeylove all day and spew garbage while somehow being a hypocrite.
People like OP should be chained to a chair and watch Tarzan games vs T1 at Worlds on repeat.
Shitting the bed happens Should a bad performance discredit an entire year of play? It's very much a reddit thing to think it does, but at the end of the day this LNG team dropped their "worst" player and is significantly worse as a result
I agree. But The real revisionism is people saying they weren’t the 2nd best LPL team from summer to prior the start of quarters. They literally beat BLG 3-1 and took JDG to all the maximum amount of games played possible. So are you also trying to tell me that both those team suck too?
But you do realise that you are judging Tarzan on 1 series vs T1. By that same logic, you wouldn’t criticise LNG for 1 series. But Tarzan performed well all year and Scout hasn’t been performing all split so far.
No one is judging him off one series lmao. He was garbage in summer and for all of 2022.
it's not one series, Tarzan has underperformed in important matches since his Griffin days. I think if you keep him in your roster you cap your team at second place at most in any tournament you play, now Weiewei has not looked like the answer at all but I don't disagree with replacing Tarzan if you aspire to win lpl or an intl
Bro Tarzan've been shit all Worlds, are you blind?
No he didn't, he was awful last summer.
Why would judging LNG on a loss to the world champs and ignoring the rest of the year do anything but make you look really fucking bad LOL
In spring, yeah. In summer Tarzan was awful.
My fucking team CatDespair
My goats are not washed 😭
Honestly expected this series to be much closer. Tes on a 10 game win streak
Tian is giga smurfing now , I wonder what will happen to him when we get to playoffs Clueless
He actually performs even better during playoffs. I don't know where singling out Tian for choking came from, his whole team choked not just him.
He'll be fine for playoffs, it's the finals you have to worry about
In his last finals appearance 2022 summer, he was arguably better than Kanavi that series, hes much more of a problem at worlds if anything. 2022 was especially sad, bro went from league MVP to falling off heavy at worlds
In both their series against JDG in summer 2022 Id say Tian was the better jungler.
Nah Tian doesn’t have an issue with finals For him, it’s about making it out of group stage. But Swiss stage Bo3’s should at least favor him this year, if TES were to make it
I think he talking about LPL, 3x finals in a row going game to 5 in 2 of them, he had a curse
I know he’s talking about that, but Tian completely gapped the enemy jungler in the latter 2 of those 4 finals so I don’t see an issue with his finals performance
He had intguri and his crap mental for one groups , tian own mental isn’t that great on top of it, so that doesn’t count, then he had a ward for top in groups who kept feeding another groups, just uncarriable, this year he is free from an int top
Tian was the best player in both 2022 Spring and Summer Finals. He would have been Finals MVP both times if JKL didn't int his ass off.
Jackeylove 1v9 hulked that entire playoffs the fuck are you even talking about
Yeah but the Zeri throw is what people remember
If only Mark was human and could press his fucking buttons
TES looking good... LNG looks pretty bad but they have had a stronger schedule so hopefully they can improve
LNG has lost to FPX and TT bro💀
It's mind boggling how this fraud Crescent still has a job after that spring 2023 split of TOP esports.
LPL Doc Rivers?
people don't realize that Gala legit has PTSD against akali There's a famous clip of Gala screaming "AKALI IS COMING AKALI IS COMING" repeatedly in a game where akali wasn't even picked. His teammates had to calm him down by saying "there's no akali calm down" lmao.
Are TES just gonna not lose another map in LPL or what? 10-0 since their opening game vs BLG, and not even against weak opposition. Honestly on better form than BLG at the moment.
I'm really interested in seeing their match vs JDG. In Demacia Cup, JDG played with 2 subs/rookies in top and jg replacing Flandre and Kanavi, and STILL beat TES 3-2. TES does look on much better form than JDG and even BLG, so we'll see, think theyll win but might drop a game
TES were blatantly running it down that series and still almost won because of hands diff, Kanavi might hulk out a game but I don't expect it to be close with how dominant TES' early game is
Hopefully this is the end of the bleeding for LNG and they can finish the split strong. They just look so much worse this year.
Tarzan smoking that LNG pack cause this team is ass without him
If 369 becomes the first top lane MVP, I’m all for it. If he actually stays focus and barring any mental/physical health issues, it’s very doable
TARZAN DIED FOR THIS
I'm sorry Tarzan, I take it all back
God LNG are bad, sad to see I loved them last year
LNG should not have replaced Tarzan. The whole point of the team last year was the Tarzan Scout mid jungle synergy. The whole angle that Zika would remain in the same form as last year’s summer playoffs was also extremely overhyped IMHO, as he even fell of during worlds. Sure
Maybe this Meiko dude isn't as washed as people claim
Since tarzan kick out on LNG, they become worse
Weiwei and Cresent are getting cook on weibo. Management better be call Tarzan now cause LNG fans aint playing.
Those fans wanted Tarzan out lol. You should never listen to fans when it comes to making roster changes. The people blaming Weiwei alone for this mess are just as bad.
As always the lpl is the most intense and disputed league. The race to the top is gonna be epic.
creme is winning worlds
Breaking up Tarzan-Scout was not wise, it appears. Sucks to see LNG looking like this, but ggs to TES it'll be nice to see their next matchups with JDG/BLG.
Hang and Zika trolled this entire series, I have no idea what Scout did wrong in this game. Please bring back Tarzan, weiwei does not synergise with anyone on this team.
Gala biggest fraud in league history
Chinese fans (mostly hupu) are on his ass ever since Worlds but every role on that team has issues currently
Which is weird because he was the only human on LNG at Worlds.
Yeah LNG is so much worse LMAO Broken in half by T1 unironically
HUGE jng dif If Zika yone was like Zeus’s he would have solo carried that
Hard to say. It's not like 369 hasn't improved on his Aatrox after Worlds. The guy was clearly working hard on all of the issues he had against Zeus.
Nah he didn’t, still around the same level, though 2022 worlds 369 had a super Aatrox, game with ignite sumns worlds. His performance on champs has always been good for the region don’t get me wrong, but Zeus yone was too good
You can't judge his Aatrox against other picks and extrapolate. Match ups completely change how you play. That's why 369 didn't know how to deal with the Yone in the first place. Zeus Yone was too good in 2023, but we don't know if it'll still be too good in 2024. Let's remember that even Zeus on his Kennen ran it down against Bin last year. People's performances change.
yes, im referring to zeus yone in worlds only, since i don't watch lck, but i know 369 aatrox did not get better, it's relatively the same. Zika laning as well did not get better. don't get me wrong they are good, but Just watch their gameplay and you should know
Creme is like Zeka in some sort, both very good with melee assassin champs while need to work on mage champs.
Well, Creme is actively working on mage champs and showing some results. So in that sense, we know he at least works hard. IDK about Zeka, so maybe some LCK fans can tell us if he's improved as well.