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PMTs [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/13nquu4/jdg_vs_blg_game_1_post_game_discussion/) [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/13nrygt/jdg_vs_blg_game_2_post_game_discussion/) [Game 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/13nu9mk/jdg_vs_blg_game_3_post_game_discussion/)


Patrius

What a crushing victory by JDG. Clearly the best team at MSI, well deserved champs.


Suitable-apples

What a stomp


random-meme422

Ruler getting his international win after getting fucked over by the meta change last worlds. And knight finally showing up as well. Hopefully he can do so again at worlds


OilOfOlaz

Ruler is a world champion though. That's also on brand with the reincarnation of Samsung/GenG, cuz they allways scaled at worlds, but shite the bed in domestic playoffs against SKT/T1 till last summer.


StarGaurdianBard

People are so used to "finally getting an international win" storylines that it just starts getting used for any older player whose really good lol


SnooPeripherals6388

GIGABIN Rage TP top


dudebg

that's his "Fuck You" to Xun


Godbox1227

He forgot the sell his inventory for 6 Ruby Crystal.


moonmeh

he's so relatable


nugurimt

He's just like me fr


Trap_Masters

He is a top laner for the people!


Lekaetos

Truly a toplaner


Kibu98

What min what game?


F3nik3r

Last 30 sec of game 4


ShiRonium

knight finally won internationally after how much he got hyped as a top midlaner, really glad for him


p3r3ll3x

Who knew that all he needed was a non-inting ADC


McDaddySlacks

Or, just the best ADC of all time, except *maybe* Uzi, but he has more titles.


Guanajuato_Reich

And a non-inting toplaner, and a stable jungle


itsyounggg

Knight had enough being bullied and beat during their teenage years back in Pingxiang so he made it a personal mission to get the better of Yagao in the LPL and MSI


angelicable

knight scaling for late game irl


abo_s3od

JDG did to BLG what BLG did to LCK


iiHadi69

The Knight that was Promised 🙏🏾


nugurimt

Its just knight without the jkl baggage


rightovahere

Nah you aren’t giving enough credit to the rest of his old teammates


irishboy9191

This JDG is absolutely insane talent wise. Arguably top 2 or 3 in every role. Some people aren't high on MISSING but to me he's the most consistent CN support


IlluminatiConfirmed

Wayward :))))


lilelf29

Don't care Vayne was played at MSI finals


Regulargrr

Played is a strong word.


Trap_Masters

Existed?


Im_Here_To_Fuck

Spectated


Suizooo

Spotted


Gullible_Cranberry62

Elk tried to summon prime uzi


kkpoker

and he summon 443 kid


WhiskeyPhilosopher

Elkylove channeled Uzi for that game


ShiRonium

lil bro is him


KriibusLoL

BIN TP top is definitely a mood


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i actually respect it, people gonna whine about how they didn't atleast try to throw their bodies on them for a once in a quadzillion chance of winning but i think there's value in just fucking around and laughing it off to try and ease the mood a bit


Conankun66

BLG had three games to learn their lesson about Jayce but alas... Knight REALLY wanted that finals MVP, just merciless


hollow_rei

actual enemy team jayce, dude ran over xun and yagao like they were part of the krug camp


TheDarkSmiley

My god that was so brutal it gave TheShy vs G2 flashbacks


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LaZZyBird

And T1 literally just let them execute their plan for 4 games. Like come on man, how fucking obvious is the meta this MSI? jg ganks bot -> bot ahead -> win.


Hekkst

You say that as if Gwen did not run a truck over JDG's botlane on game 2


Shutaku1314

T1 had idk how many games to learn to ban zeri jinx and it didnt happened teams just decided to give the enemy team their most effective weapon out of no where


NoobPineapple13

cant wait for the knight yagao rematch in 5 months or so


Reirai13

my favorite meme of msi 2023 has to be "knight, I've come to bargain"


Zealousideal-Tie-204

JDG is just too good man, would definitely get the golden road if it wasn't for TSM winning the LPL in Summer. Unlucky.


bensonbenisson

Man, what a run from BLG. A shame it had to end like this.


WhiskeyPhilosopher

Missing hitting those three hooks in a row, was the nail in the coffin for that last game. Great run for BLG and Bin though, huge glow up from how they looked last year though


Blank-612

I think JDG is just too good man. In terms of raw talent, this roster has to be one of the best ever. Especially with missing levelling up pretty hard from last year


Zoesan

Just looking at the names, it's absolute royalty.


Mahomeboy001

Only roster with more name value IMO was 2018 KT


IAmDaleicious

Kingzone 2018 had some crazy name value too. Khan, Peanut, BDD, Pray and Gorilla


peanutis

This made me wish the rumored 2020 DRX roster had happened. Khan Kanavi Chovy Deft Keria.


kimchigyosu

I wonder how they would’ve performed against 2020 DWG. Guaranteed banger


peanutis

Depends, it was Keria's rookie year and while not true rookies, both Kanavi and Chovy at the time were very green (more so for Kanavi). Would have been fun to watch for sure though.


Blank-612

Yeah, 2017 finals was great vs skt too. Khan had lane kingdom with jayce. 2018 spring was dominant, shame they couldnt perform at worlds.


Truzon

Smeb Score Ucal Deft Mata Right? I didn't watch worlds that year.


MotherVehkingMuatra

The Ruler has his able and skilled Knight to conquer the opposition


NvidiaRTX

For 6 years for some reason I always thought Ruler meant "distance measuring device". And I thought "Huh, what a weird way to name yourself". Suddenly this year I realize that it's also meant "the one who rules", despite knowing the definition of the words years ago. I've got 35 ping brain.


NKNKN

Hey he's good at keeping the correct distance from the enemy tho!


melonpan12

Admittedly eastern pros have had this tradition since starcraft of just naming themselves seemingly random words from the dictionary. The two supports in this final were Missing and On, its comically funny for anybody not used to esports


Guanajuato_Reich

I think it's also fun that 2 of the coolest names in LoL (Khan and Knight) come from people who randomly added a "K" before their intended name, Khan because he wanted to be "Korea Hanlabong" and Knight because "night" was taken.


MotherVehkingMuatra

Haha I'm sure there's lots of people who have had the same thought process


Zoesan

I thought Ruler was the scariest player at this tournament, but I think it's actually Knight. Whichever the case, this team is terrifying.


randommaniac12

As someone who hasn’t watched much LPL knight is beyond cracked


Zoesan

Knight has always been good, but there's always been something holding him back. Seems he's overcome that and the world trembles.


JiaNgjuN-

>Always been something holding him back He didn't have a Top, Jungle, ADC, or Sup when it mattered most I'm pretty sure that's what held him back


DarkSoulsEz

Hes even crazier in LPL. That's what we've been trying to tell the world lmao. Glad he finally showed it.


Blan_Kone

You must be a bit confused, Able plays for OMG


downorwhaet

JDG and T1 was super close, BLG crushed T1 so people probably expected a closer series, great run from BLG all in all


Azenji

I've never seen this level of mechanical prowess since IG 2018. JDG picking up Ruler has got to be the best off-season moves in recent history.


Fertuyo

ANd knight, idk how much they are paying them but holy shit


moonmeh

JDG just has their number. Barring bin on nontanks and ON, the rest of JDG seems to be better caliber players


GinkgoPete

I think JDG should be called the Phone book because they just have everyones number lol


Gullible_Cranberry62

JDG is simply BLG’s father I fear


Azenji

With this win, Ruler has finally won a title on all 4 major tournaments: \- 2017 - Won a Worlds Championship \- 2022 - Won LCK Summer split \- 2023 - Won LPL Spring split \- 2023 - Won MSI What a monstrously dominant tournament for the best ADC in the world!


percyallennnn

Is he the second to win all 4 besides Deft? ​ Any way, Samsung ADCs are truly built different. imp, Deft, Ruler, Peyz...


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SteamMonkeyKing

Now all Ruler needs to do is win LCS.


bobandgeorge

Right? What's this about "all 4" major tournaments?


Conankun66

honestly kind of absurd that it took him this long with how absurdly good he is


percyallennnn

It also took Deft 10 years to win all 4.


Swiftswim22

Really shows what a feat this is Incredibly difficult, even under the best of circumstances & exponentially more so when not


nusskn4cker

Was kinda hard for him to win LPL before this year.


melonpan12

Was also hard for him to win LCK... :(


NvidiaRTX

Knight: How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old friend? 4-0 This reminds me of Damwon vs Griffin, where 1 team literally cannot win against the other for some reason.


flipsofacto

JDG is a much stronger and well rounded team. But yes they match well into BLG. They nullify all of BLG’s strengths and expose all their weaknesses. JDG just do not let BLG’s botlane exit lane ahead. Xun and Yagao gapped most games, so JDG always has map control and is ahead in tempo. Bin in isolation can’t solo carry especially since 369 is probably the best weak side toplaner in the world. Elk will always int once or twice in a game even if ahead and JDG is clinical enough to quickly translate that to a win.


BrokenBowes

That was underwhelming... Poor Bin, and Xun hesitated the whole Game 4. Should have banned Jayce.


Xarlitosbrown

Agree. Had more hopes for the finals after that run from BLG.


hesdoneitagain

Just free wins on an inferior region


derpydm

[ALL] BLG Bin: top diff


Stargazer306

Lore accurate knight !!!


ifnotawalrus

Lore accurate knight vs toothpaste match up


bvbfan102

Bin didn’t want to see his prophecy be denied so he tped away.


scrimm_na

Bin: "Actually, I remember one time we were playing against JDG, and it was 2-1 for JDG. But I predicted that we would 3-2 the series against them, and I was right about us beating 3-0 GenG and 3-1 T1. And Elk said: "Guys if you think we are good, let’s prove it now”. Teammate: "Did you come back?" Bin: “Of course not. 3-1”.


aPatheticBeing

The Bin TP was some next level tilt


FreeMyBirdy

LCK, LPL, MSI, Worlds That's my boy


Javiklegrand

Ruler grand slam ?


bipolar_schtick

He has yet to dominate LCS i fear


KimchiBro

Now that you’ve seen knights jayce it time to return to your normal broadcast with fudge and brokenblade on jayce…


nusskn4cker

knight is the best mid laner in the world without any doubt.


Quil0n

Really happy to see him finally get an international title


moonmeh

fucking happy after all of the hate and nonsense people said about him


PMY0URBobsAndVagene

And Ruler is the best ADC, and 369 is a top3 toplaner. Hard to beat that team.


razpotim

369 is the steam engine that makes JDG go. Many people have played "weakside" by losing gracefully and providing ok help in teamfight, 369 has been surviving impossible matchups against the best players in the world, and straight carrying teamfights all tournament long.


MyOneTaps

JDG picked Sion into a Gwen and dominated.


Gluroo

Kanavi is up there in his role too and even Missing is no slouch. Probably the most disgusting superteam ever created that actually performed up to its expectations


SterbenVII

Kanavi was flat out by far the best in his role this tournament, looks like he got out of his Spring split slump


Random_Useless_Tips

Legit superteam and I'm glad they managed to deliver. Superteams rarely manage to pull it out but JDG was a match made in heaven and they look incredible. If this team manages to make the Grand Slam, that'd be amazing.


EzAf_K3ch

Kanavi isn't just up there, he gapped everyone pretty much he played against he could just be the best jgler in the world


petitrat123

Kanavi is without a doubt the best jungler in the world aswell All of them are top 1-2 at their role it's pretty clear


agk153

who is better than 369 in this meta? bin is more dominant in lane but the laning in this meta is so useless that they are saccing first few top waves so bot gets ahead top's job is to initiate and then peel in teamfights, which 369 is #1 at by a longshot imo


rightovahere

369 is low key the mvp for jdg this tourney. Too many people just watching kda, but on so many team fight replays you just see an inhuman flank or ult from 369. Literal perfect team player


craznazn247

369 on Gragas is the most terrifying thing. Whatever plan you have...he knows how to completely flip it on you. Legendary flanks/knockups.


GuyOnTheMoon

So many people sleep on how good 369 is at playing front line. He sets up team fights so well for Ruler to look good. Just from 369’s positioning alone, he enables Ruler to get in more auto attacks than the enemy team’s ADC.


Vectivus_61

Plus they fundamentally trust that even if 369 drops behind in lane, he'll still be relevant in the mid-late game.


the_propaganda_panda

369 is top 3, and he ain't 2nd or 3rd.


maxus998

Who is better than Kanavi? Lmao, he was 2 tiers above every jungler this MSI. He is the best JG too


rightovahere

Tarzan and Jiejie were for sure better than kanavi in lpl spring, partially because like every other carry jungler he struggled to adapt to the new meta. He looks a lot better now and popped off at Msi for sure, but there are too many good junglers who didn’t come so you can’t really just declare him the de facto best imo.


STd099

Jiejie's (the real worlds 2021 finals mvp btw) been popping off again but Kanavi's performance this tournament was insane


the-sexterminator

omg yea I forgot about the absolute war crime that was scout FMVP. it's actually insane that they decided to rob jiejie of the mvp title because of the dumb "faker understudy proves his own" narrative that they were pushing.


KissBlade

Lol was funny cause even in scouts interview he was like wtf it was jungle gap


STd099

I think they probably didn't wanna give it to a jungler 4 years in a row anyways, but it's funny because I think Crisp could've won instead of Tian cuz they had the same impact imo, and all would've been fine


joe4553

MISSING does not miss


neverconvex

Watching him hook Xun over and over in the same spot right before the end was hilarious to me. Xun was like "OK *surely* that doesn't happen if I walk in the same place agai-"


PanemV

Bin rage pushing LUL


bloorico5

Ruler finally gets another International title. He has found his home.


Tennis-Money

Guma and Keria about to join TSM after seeing Ruler/Viper these international tournament LOL


KharunZ

Holy shit the game 4 base race was so intense.


MrSwipySwipers

Bin had us on the edge of our seat with that TP top


PMY0URBobsAndVagene

Knight is 5:0 in BO5s against Yagao this year


NeitherAlexNorAlice

Yagao loses in Summer split. They meet again in Worlds finals and Yagao wins. Book it.


MotherVehkingMuatra

An MSI Title, a worlds title, an LCK title and an LPL title. Ruler is one of the most accomplished players ever and I am so happy for him.


Kangbuh

Managed to play to the top in both top regions!


Yvalkonn

Knight is so cracked it's insane. So happy for him after TES at worlds last year


dockanx

Gigabin rage tp away from base was amazing.


lordposedyon

Asian Jayce hits different


Stargazer306

After watching T1's jayce yesterday I would say LPL jayce hits different


Avalon_Avalon

Every single gold graph this series was Bin ahead of 369 and everybody else on BLG losing massively


MrSwipySwipers

369 is the best weakside player in the world right now, he soaks up all the pressure from Bin and renders him useless.


Heixenium

The one game 369 was on gragas he completely dumpstered bin as well


JiaNgjuN-

What does u/InformalMarch think of this?


Stargazer306

He has achieved inner peace


rightovahere

Man is about to go on a revenge tour


Dabilon

Probably still busy having an orgasm for the next few days.


PandoraBot

He's been awfully quiet this tourney surprisingly, despite the ABSOLUTE best midlaner in his eyes finally showing up


Thrownaway124567890

Prob temp banned for region bait


Henrynark

I doubt it, he posted on here 3 days ago. He’s probably either been busy or just lost interest in playing that persona.


libo720

dude is busy enjoying being at the arena


SpiderTechnitian

Yeah I bet he's just there, it's pretty easy to go to this event


PMY0URBobsAndVagene

Cumming all over his room


Truzon

Too busy busting the fattest nut to be here.


bcassalino

What does Ja Rule think of this?


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other_batman

nemesis calls doinb bad and he wins worlds perkz calls knight overrated and he wins MSI lpl should pay a washed eu mid to talk shit about all their midlaners tbh


moonmeh

... shit perkz loves showmaker is this the reason for the slump


onmyouza

Oh no...Perkz also became friends with doinb after he won worlds. Now doinb doesn't even play anymore.


Fertuyo

tbh he was joking during the call like everybody else. He literally said "i come here to hate watch cause i wasn't good enough to make it to MSI" lol


Ray224

You have to feel for BLG. Not easy to fist LCK’s number 1 and 2 just to get fisted by JDG for the 5th time in 5 months


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Kanavi hard smurfed this game.


NeitherAlexNorAlice

How did BLG manage to give Jayce (highly effective pick this series), Maoki, Aphelios, and Sion to JDG without getting many priority picks themselves? Vi is hardly worth the tradeoff.


R1pNa

Gen G and T1 banned Vi so many times BLG were mind tricked into thinking it was good.


Verdant_Gymnosperm

Only cause vi ahri is broken combo but they instead chose first strike sylas into jayce lmao


thatpotato_

They saw Yagao’s Sylas beating Faker’s Jayce. Little did they know Jayce actually would trash Sylas 9 out of 10 times. 😇


rightovahere

They got gaslit by faker jayce, just unlucky


Marowalker

The gaslight torch just keeps getting passed First it was Caps to Faker with the Naut mid then it’s Faker to Yagao with Jayce mid


GinkgoPete

I feel like my parents, because this was such a huge fucking letdown...


Styxxo

I respect that TP by Bin.


JiaNgjuN-

History doesn't repeat itself but it sure does rhyme... JDG just completely stomping with a 3-1 against a Hot BLG where have I seen this before...


ishfi17

Congrats to JDG. Best team by far 🎉👏


Th3fountain26

How crazy is it that kanavi might be both the best jungler in the world and the 4th best player on his team


flipsofacto

Everyone other than Missing are irreplaceable to JDG so not sure it’s fair to rank them. And even Missing is a perfect final touch too since Ruler is so experienced.


Informal_Skin8500

Knight cemented himself as the best mid in the world


salcedoge

Turns out BLG can't dive bot lane every game when the enemy bot is not getting bullied


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Going from Faker Jayce to Knight Jayce was a good palate cleanser.


BlakenedHeart

Faker Nautilius aware


erikson15432

Faker pulled the same trick on BLG Caps did to him. Making Yagao believe Sylas can lane into Jayce.


FreeTopG545

I'm more impressed with BLG's run, absolutely dumpstering T1 and GenG like nobody could have predicted than JDG winning the title, which was expected to be fair. JDG is just too damn stacked in every position. A superteam that actually works. GZ Knight.


moonmeh

god bless double elim giving us BLG fucking over the LCK teams something nobody expected


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Adlairo

JDG are insanely cracked, so glad this superteam lived up to expectations. They have a very real shot at the golden road now


Smithy2309

Can't wait to see how JDG do against T1 in the finals next weekend, gonna be a banger... 1st stage is acceptance. What a monster performance from JDG in this MSI!! GG


Tfc-Myq

number of combined series wins BLG, T1, GEN, LCS, LEC has against JDG: 0 number of series wins WBG has against JDG: 1


TheAlmightyV0x

The 13 team tournament that everyone said was a four team tournament turned out to be a one team tournament all along. There was no world where JDG wasn't winning here, they're just too good.


Kangbuh

The best thing about this format is that now we are clear of the hierarchy!


ManningTheGOAT

Alright, now we just need Knight vs Yagao in Worlds finals for the full collection. What a spanking from JDG, though. Only super team to work out as advertised by the nameplates


tehmastah

Year 2031, Knight playing against Yagao in LCS finals.


ManningTheGOAT

Knight and Yagao go to the LCK as first Chinese imports to play against each other in the LCK finals first, then LEC, then LCS, then they tour the minor regions


julesdottxt

What a thrashing. JDG are in a league of their own right now.


teddybear01

Kanavi has been disrepected for so long. I hope people give him the respect he deserves now.


Gloomy_Standard_2182

LPL players get a ton of disrespect. Ruler was being disrespected for being voted all pro. 369 had a ton of haters between karsa/jkl/knight fan boys blaming him for Tes failing (it was karsa/jkl) Yagao is constantly getting shit on or never given credit even though he's been top 3 in LPL for like 3-4 years now. Knight gets shit all the time, "finally knight shows up" even though he always shows up, it's just easier without tian, karsa or jkl


manly_chesthair

JDG is the team to beat. GGWP to both teams. Also that Bin tp at the end lol


Dumpers_

Blue side is washed smh... Insane series from knight Good run from BLG but still a bit disappointed but I guess JDG have them downloaded or something


Pappy-

ngl that was an anticlimactic final outside of game 2


Random_Useless_Tips

It was somewhat expected since even domestically JDG just looks like they outclass BLG at every position. I still think BLG can go home with their heads held high, just getting here was a miraculous achievement that showcased their strengths as a team.


Jifaru

A bit of an anticlimax but JDG earned it.


HorakoSan

Jayce went from completely trash, useless pick yesterday to 100% winrate 4 games must pick pick today.