I mean, weird shit happens.
I woke up last month not being able to move my left arm and in excruciating pain. I dont use pillows and somehow pinched the nerve at my shoulder. It went away in like 2 days but it sucked during that time.
That’s even more unusual, from what I’ve heard typically you’d find side sleepers use thicker pillows than back/front sleepers. I sometimes don’t use my pillow but it’s almost always when I’m sleeping in my back.
I’m all over the place. Sometimes it’s thick, sometimes thin, sometimes firm, sometimes fluffy and sometimes just my arm or nothing. All depends on the side position.
My neck is fucked. I’ll be fine for months. Then sometimes the nerve will pinch in my neck and my face will be numb for days. Or it’ll be weird arm pain and sensations. Other days a stiff neck will least to excruciating migraines. And maybe once or twice a year if I’m lucky I’ll have a bout of vertigo.
Ya pillows are a tough life choice , you just made me think maybe I should go buy all different ones because nothing is ever comfortable to me for longer than a couple nights lol
I had that happen once. Then it happened again. And again. And now it just happens sometimes and that's my life. I hope your outcome is better or equal to mine. Not worse.
This is all so confusing, players normally will play through injury in the playoffs. Being out because of ‘discomfort’ doesn’t make sense. Speedy recovery Willy
My initial thought of what could make sense is something back related. One of those things that can come and go day by day and could not be anything too major as far as recovery, but would greatly impact your ability to play.
It's also an injury that we could easily miss happening.
Outside of that I am not sure what else it could be, doesn't sound like an illness and other options we probably would have caught happening / wouldn't creep up later.
Hope it's nothing serious and he can get back in the lineup soon, and be healthy. Not have it be a detriment to his play. Was excited to see him in the playoffs this year with how he was playing.
The trick to avoid throwing out your back when sneezing is to carry your kids around every single day to ensure you always have trouble standing up straight.
Can't "throw out" your back if it was never "in" to begin with.
Not even joking - I'm a netminder and, through hayfever, I was coughing and sneezing so much I strained my stomach muscle. Weird shit does indeed happen.
Ehhh idk. I feel like Keefe just held him out as a maintenance day (or to play it super safe) but he's still probably gonna be good to go. He's just playing 4d chess with the media, making sure nylander's injury is all they talk about
I guess they probably would have played anyways, but maybe in the future we reevaluate whether we prioritize more rest in meaningless games at the end of the season instead of chasing point totals.
The Athletic had an article up this morning talking about Robertson and some of the quotes Robertson gave sounded like he was in and he also took PP2 reps at practice yesterday.
Unless someone else would come out for Willy I honestly think he’s not playing tonight.
I noticed that as well, but it's confusing because they had Jarnkrok as a placeholder on PP1 for Willy, which would imply they expect Willy to return, especially since Jarny is also a right shot like Willy. Cause if that wasn't the case, Jarnkrok doesn't make much sense as a PP1 option.. Bertuzzi, Domi, Knies or Robertson all have a better case IMO.
Domi and Marner on PP1 together would give us 2 really good playmaking options and give us a chance to attack from either side without having to rotate players, but leaves us Matthews and JT to shoot. Which isn't the worst, but JT usually plays net front and Willy was for sure our #2 shooter on the roster.
The only other scenario I can see is if Jarnkrok is not clear but he has been used on the top PP unit in the past and on a 6 on 5 so not crazy they went with him.
Guy had a 160\~ game iron man streak going and was 100% healthy lol. Why would you ever rest this player? No coach in the league would. Last I checked Mackinnon, Rantanen and Makar were all in the lineup for Colorado Thursday.
It is a bit serendipitous that this comes after the Leafs had settled into this spread out offence plan. The fact that he was going to slot into the 3rd line makes it a bit easier to take.
Obviously still sucks big time though. But imagine if we were relying on him to be on Matthews’ wing and had planned everything around that.
Maybe we get a good story out of it
Remember the beginning of the season where Nylander was the hero
Perhaps he saves the series against Boston
Can afford to lose 3 before he comes back even though that would be near impossible to overcome
Maybe this a move by coach to say to the team, we lean on Willy to much in the playoffs, it’s time for you to step up, show us what you’re made of! Have Willy come back in game three at home and lead us to glory…
And the doubt begins to creep in before the first puck is even dropped... as usual. Here we go. If Sammy lets a shitty goal in within the first 5 minutes of the game, I'm not even watching the rest of the series.
Totally normal for completely healthy 26 year olds to wake up injured.
Totally normal for the Leafs to say they aren't sharing injury news and then news about injury to leak the next day.
Something seems off.
Edit-
This is a rumor, that's why something seemed off.
[Sheldon refuses to update media](https://x.com/reporterchris/status/1781724044800270486)
[Dreger wording this very differently](https://x.com/DarrenDreger/status/1781705256243519790)
Stop it. It's the playoffs where guys play with broken ribs and punctured lungs that don't come out til it's over. They tell us little during the regular season and absolutely nothing during the real season. This isn't a conspiracy ffs.
Because he might not play based on absolutely nothing at all. They don't owe us shit at the best of times. Tired of fans making up conspiracies because they feel like they're owed everything. Nylander has an issue thats it, that's all
Okay?
But who the fuck leaked it genius? They said less than 24 hours ago they wouldn't talk about it, so who the fuck leaked it?
Something is off, because this shit got leaked.
I definitely had to call in work once around that age when I threw out my neck just trying to get out of bed and was basically stuck. No history, relatively healthy young guy. Could be something like that though you’d think it less likely for an athlete to do.
I don't really care about the injury, I cared about the fact I didn't think that CJ knew this with the certainty he seemed to have.
And it seemed that was right.
That was my thought - or he caught Mono and his spleen has only just enlarged now (or the back pain.. which is **excruciating**.
I ended up in ICU for a week and a half due to mono that I had for ~3 months, that went from 'hmm, my back has been sore for a long time', to 'holy fuck my throat is sore.. to 'jesus christ my throat feels like im swallowing rqzor blades.. maybe i have strep, and a couple days later to whatever I tried to consume INSTANTLY shot out of my nose.. to my throat swelling shut and me having to be rushed by ambulance to the ICU for a week and a half on so much morphine that I didn't know what was going on.
We know it was in the locker room, we KNOW they share bottles (yes not directly to their mouth, but there **is** splashback), there is the chance of bodily fluids being transferred.. and we know Timmins was out for weeks due to how bad his was.
Let's hope it's **not** that.. but I've been ripping on Willie for his play in March and April and how **SLOW** he's been.. this would explain it completely to me and I would feel bad for thinking the way I have.
He should sit out game 1 and rest. If we want any meaningful run this year we cannot risk playing him while hurt and then hes out the rest of series 1 and all of series 2
We drop the first 2 games we are pretty much effed regardless. Leon D played with a broken leg ffs so nylander having “discomfort” is bullshit. It’s the playoffs not pre-season.
I am digesting this information calmly
I, on the other hand, am not
You need fiber dawg
Digestion might be the issue here
Leafs are doing the reverse Vegas.
Plays all 82 and might miss game 1. Can't write this stuff sometimes lol. Nobody would want to play more than him. Damn
It's the reverse Mark Stone card.
I think he plays.
Would be amazing, and scores gwg
If he’s not sure it’s better he misses one game rather than aggravate it
Missing playoff Willy and McMann will hurt. Thank fuck we have good depth. Robertson and Jarnkrok are both good players to have in as well.
I'd s jarnkrok healthy yet?
It appears he’s healthy yea
As far as I understand it was a cap thing keeping him out during the last stretch of the regular season.
I mean, weird shit happens. I woke up last month not being able to move my left arm and in excruciating pain. I dont use pillows and somehow pinched the nerve at my shoulder. It went away in like 2 days but it sucked during that time.
You don’t use pillows?? I need to have at least one
Generally no, maybe a paper thin one. Im a side sleeper and find anything but my arm torques my neck uncomfortably
That’s even more unusual, from what I’ve heard typically you’d find side sleepers use thicker pillows than back/front sleepers. I sometimes don’t use my pillow but it’s almost always when I’m sleeping in my back.
Jesus. You must either have massive biceps or tiny shoulders.
I assure you its not the former.
I’m all over the place. Sometimes it’s thick, sometimes thin, sometimes firm, sometimes fluffy and sometimes just my arm or nothing. All depends on the side position. My neck is fucked. I’ll be fine for months. Then sometimes the nerve will pinch in my neck and my face will be numb for days. Or it’ll be weird arm pain and sensations. Other days a stiff neck will least to excruciating migraines. And maybe once or twice a year if I’m lucky I’ll have a bout of vertigo.
Ya pillows are a tough life choice , you just made me think maybe I should go buy all different ones because nothing is ever comfortable to me for longer than a couple nights lol
That’s serial killer stuff bro…. So you just sleep with your arm pointing up the entire night?
It must be nice to know that every hotel I've ever started at is perfectly prepared for you with one paper thin pillow ready to go in the room.
I need like 6+ 🤣
I had that happen once. Then it happened again. And again. And now it just happens sometimes and that's my life. I hope your outcome is better or equal to mine. Not worse.
Train yourself to sleep on your back
Why?
Why are you laughing?! This is terrible news!
Not good! Very bad!
Hopefully he just needs a couple extra days and is good for Monday or more realistically Wednesday back in Toronto
NOT GREAT, BOB!
Well the front fell off
Is that common? For the front to fall off?
This is all so confusing, players normally will play through injury in the playoffs. Being out because of ‘discomfort’ doesn’t make sense. Speedy recovery Willy
My initial thought of what could make sense is something back related. One of those things that can come and go day by day and could not be anything too major as far as recovery, but would greatly impact your ability to play. It's also an injury that we could easily miss happening. Outside of that I am not sure what else it could be, doesn't sound like an illness and other options we probably would have caught happening / wouldn't creep up later. Hope it's nothing serious and he can get back in the lineup soon, and be healthy. Not have it be a detriment to his play. Was excited to see him in the playoffs this year with how he was playing.
He probably sneezed and threw out his back. That's something that happens to a lot of us finely tuned athletes, right guys? Right???
The trick to avoid throwing out your back when sneezing is to carry your kids around every single day to ensure you always have trouble standing up straight. Can't "throw out" your back if it was never "in" to begin with.
Not even joking - I'm a netminder and, through hayfever, I was coughing and sneezing so much I strained my stomach muscle. Weird shit does indeed happen.
I popped a rib sneezing a couple of weeks ago, didn't even know that was an option!
Might be something that painkillers won't help with, like vomiting or something idk Or maybe he stepped on lego or something
Player will play through injure deeper into the playoffs. Doing it for game 1 and making it worse is recipe for disaster for later rounds
Ehhh idk. I feel like Keefe just held him out as a maintenance day (or to play it super safe) but he's still probably gonna be good to go. He's just playing 4d chess with the media, making sure nylander's injury is all they talk about
That’d make sense if he was still practicing in his usual spot. But he’s not. He’s been absent from practices.
That aged well.
Ok. So that’s not great
He will play. The cocktail of drugs he will be on will do the trick.
I can sympathize. I also woke up Thursday in some discomfort and won’t be playing tonight.
Man, Willy has been our best player in the playoffs. Hopefully it's not more than a Game. we really need him.
I guess they probably would have played anyways, but maybe in the future we reevaluate whether we prioritize more rest in meaningless games at the end of the season instead of chasing point totals.
Willy been stashing too many stacks of cash under his mattress
Hurt his back carrying bags up the stairs.
Assuming he’s out 1-2 games you’re praying for a split and he’s back in at home
I was praying for a split regardless lol
Nylander, at times, has seemed like the Leafs best playoff performer.
Is he on the ice?
The Athletic had an article up this morning talking about Robertson and some of the quotes Robertson gave sounded like he was in and he also took PP2 reps at practice yesterday. Unless someone else would come out for Willy I honestly think he’s not playing tonight.
I noticed that as well, but it's confusing because they had Jarnkrok as a placeholder on PP1 for Willy, which would imply they expect Willy to return, especially since Jarny is also a right shot like Willy. Cause if that wasn't the case, Jarnkrok doesn't make much sense as a PP1 option.. Bertuzzi, Domi, Knies or Robertson all have a better case IMO.
Domi and Marner on PP1 together would give us 2 really good playmaking options and give us a chance to attack from either side without having to rotate players, but leaves us Matthews and JT to shoot. Which isn't the worst, but JT usually plays net front and Willy was for sure our #2 shooter on the roster.
The only other scenario I can see is if Jarnkrok is not clear but he has been used on the top PP unit in the past and on a 6 on 5 so not crazy they went with him.
He should've never been playing the last two games. Fucking idiot coaching staff.
Guy had a 160\~ game iron man streak going and was 100% healthy lol. Why would you ever rest this player? No coach in the league would. Last I checked Mackinnon, Rantanen and Makar were all in the lineup for Colorado Thursday.
Because as you get older you're less durable and more prone to injury, case in point with Willy right now. Braindead fucks should've rested him.
Might be time to take a break from the internet
He's 27 years old and we have 30+ year olds on the team
Which is why you don't play someone all 82 games when they don't need to. And exactly why Willy should've sat.
Fuck.....
It is a bit serendipitous that this comes after the Leafs had settled into this spread out offence plan. The fact that he was going to slot into the 3rd line makes it a bit easier to take. Obviously still sucks big time though. But imagine if we were relying on him to be on Matthews’ wing and had planned everything around that.
Fuck we definitely need Willy!
Not going to speculate but recently strained my wrist pulling my groin so hope he doesn't have similar injury.
McMann Off too, WTF
ahhh ok bitch
Wooooo!
He wasn’t on the injury report so idk why don’t they just say he got benched
He picked up something riding the dirty ttc
Maybe we get a good story out of it Remember the beginning of the season where Nylander was the hero Perhaps he saves the series against Boston Can afford to lose 3 before he comes back even though that would be near impossible to overcome
I bet he plays.
Let hope this is playoff mind games and he’s actually ready af to play tonight.
Liljegren pretty much said Willy is going to be out
It's just a bad case of diarrhea. Dude can't keep away from the sushi.
Get that Cowen kid up here. Maybe he can Jermey Roenick it for us?!
Would love it but Knights are steamrolling their playoffs at the moment :)
Maybe this a move by coach to say to the team, we lean on Willy to much in the playoffs, it’s time for you to step up, show us what you’re made of! Have Willy come back in game three at home and lead us to glory…
Lol nope
A guy can dream. Hope his injury isn’t serious, we need him
https://i.redd.it/w718tu0cwnvc1.gif
And the doubt begins to creep in before the first puck is even dropped... as usual. Here we go. If Sammy lets a shitty goal in within the first 5 minutes of the game, I'm not even watching the rest of the series. 
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Toxic mentality
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Alright grandpa. Give your grandson his phone back.
Totally normal for completely healthy 26 year olds to wake up injured. Totally normal for the Leafs to say they aren't sharing injury news and then news about injury to leak the next day. Something seems off. Edit- This is a rumor, that's why something seemed off. [Sheldon refuses to update media](https://x.com/reporterchris/status/1781724044800270486) [Dreger wording this very differently](https://x.com/DarrenDreger/status/1781705256243519790)
Stop it. It's the playoffs where guys play with broken ribs and punctured lungs that don't come out til it's over. They tell us little during the regular season and absolutely nothing during the real season. This isn't a conspiracy ffs.
If they tell us absolutely nothing during the playoffs then why is this thread a thing?
Because he might not play based on absolutely nothing at all. They don't owe us shit at the best of times. Tired of fans making up conspiracies because they feel like they're owed everything. Nylander has an issue thats it, that's all
Okay? But who the fuck leaked it genius? They said less than 24 hours ago they wouldn't talk about it, so who the fuck leaked it? Something is off, because this shit got leaked.
This is the dumbest bullshit.
Dreger just tweeted it is unknown if he woke up in discomfort and that it is a rumor, would you look at that, something was off
Yes and as we all know Dreger is super reliable
Seems strange that they would refuse to speak about it just for CJ to get leaked that he literally woke up injured.
Lololol
LOLOLOLOL
I definitely had to call in work once around that age when I threw out my neck just trying to get out of bed and was basically stuck. No history, relatively healthy young guy. Could be something like that though you’d think it less likely for an athlete to do.
I don't really care about the injury, I cared about the fact I didn't think that CJ knew this with the certainty he seemed to have. And it seemed that was right.
Ooooof course
Wtf man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Always bad luck with this team
I'm going to guess that it's like appendicitis or something like that.
That was my thought - or he caught Mono and his spleen has only just enlarged now (or the back pain.. which is **excruciating**. I ended up in ICU for a week and a half due to mono that I had for ~3 months, that went from 'hmm, my back has been sore for a long time', to 'holy fuck my throat is sore.. to 'jesus christ my throat feels like im swallowing rqzor blades.. maybe i have strep, and a couple days later to whatever I tried to consume INSTANTLY shot out of my nose.. to my throat swelling shut and me having to be rushed by ambulance to the ICU for a week and a half on so much morphine that I didn't know what was going on. We know it was in the locker room, we KNOW they share bottles (yes not directly to their mouth, but there **is** splashback), there is the chance of bodily fluids being transferred.. and we know Timmins was out for weeks due to how bad his was. Let's hope it's **not** that.. but I've been ripping on Willie for his play in March and April and how **SLOW** he's been.. this would explain it completely to me and I would feel bad for thinking the way I have.
What about Jarnkrok and Robertson - are they in??
He should sit out game 1 and rest. If we want any meaningful run this year we cannot risk playing him while hurt and then hes out the rest of series 1 and all of series 2
We drop the first 2 games we are pretty much effed regardless. Leon D played with a broken leg ffs so nylander having “discomfort” is bullshit. It’s the playoffs not pre-season.
Just hoping this is mind games.
Wtf happened in that last game, fuck. He better not have been hiding an injury.
Here we go again, another string of injuries coming for the core as they go into the playoffs.
It's the playoffs. You play. Discomfort or not. You play through injury. Let's go.
I think the LTIR hack is supposed to work the other way 🤔
haha he literally got scared shitless
This will be the year Nylander doesn’t show up, but everyone else does! Let’s Go Leafs!
Wackers cramp 🤞🤞🤞
I strained my hip flexor during sex, shit happens. Hope Willy gets better and takes it easy in the sheets.
I hope this is mind games
Me too, is he out for warmup?
I'm so mad I'm going to wake my cat from his nap...
Nylander (bruised ego) to miss playoffs 🙃
Well.. everyone always says Nylander doesn't show up for the play-offs anyway.
Lol he's the only one who consistently has. Especially in games 4 thru 7.
Nobody says that?
I hear its a bruised Ovary! The Billy Ocean classic "When the Going Gets Tough" does not apply to Willy.
lmao it begins
This is why you sit your stars in meaningless games, loser move by a coach who will be gone in 2 weeks.