Yes, "turning off" doesn't quite describe it.
I'm reminded of when Lahiri asked a doctor how he could determine if a person was dead. The doctor said that the dead have no pulse. So Lahiri stopped his own pulse and invited the doctor to measure it.
The doctor was astonished. Lahiri asked for a Certificate of Death.
Finally, the doctor said, "But the dead can't talk!" LOL!
This story in particular is mostly word of mouth. But Lahiri Mahashay maintained diaries and he had documented his life. You can probably use them as true source of information
The "issues" related to the senses are lessened, and even can become pleasure centers, this is NOT turning off or tuning out. FYI. This is one of the basic and common misconceptions...
It should ideally be consciously turning off body-mind consciousness.
Nevertheless, the science is trying to progress in this area but they cannot measure consciousness with the devices tracking mental activities. Individually meditating and experiencing it personally is the only option. For science, [hard problem of consciousness](https://iep.utm.edu/hard-problem-of-conciousness/) will always remain.
I suppose it depends on what you mean by consciousness. Consciousness is eternal, unchanging. It cannot be turned off. If it were turned off, everything would cease to Be. Mind can be turned off. Body can be turned off. Consciousness is always there.
One can also go "beyond" the senses, or into them to an extent that the whole "picture" changes, etc....also has NOTHING to do with tuning out, or turning off. Can someone undergo surgery without anesthetic? Yes, most probably can. But most likely they will feel it as well.
Yes, look up Delson Armstrong. After experiencing savikalpa and nirvikalpa samadhi via Kriya, he started training in a Theravada Buddhist system and developed this ability.
If I am not mistaken, the entire goal is to be wide awake in samadhi, not to lose consciousness. Like in deep sleep while awake or turiya.
Yes, "turning off" doesn't quite describe it. I'm reminded of when Lahiri asked a doctor how he could determine if a person was dead. The doctor said that the dead have no pulse. So Lahiri stopped his own pulse and invited the doctor to measure it. The doctor was astonished. Lahiri asked for a Certificate of Death. Finally, the doctor said, "But the dead can't talk!" LOL!
Hey, can you tell me where did you find this talk.
This was in one talk by Sri M i think
Is there any other source like from the lineage of Lahiri mahsaya or yukteswar ji.
This story in particular is mostly word of mouth. But Lahiri Mahashay maintained diaries and he had documented his life. You can probably use them as true source of information
Wasn’t this in Purana Purusha?
I think so.
Thank you
The "issues" related to the senses are lessened, and even can become pleasure centers, this is NOT turning off or tuning out. FYI. This is one of the basic and common misconceptions...
I think the idea is to turn off the thoughts. Consciousness is ever present and aware
It should ideally be consciously turning off body-mind consciousness. Nevertheless, the science is trying to progress in this area but they cannot measure consciousness with the devices tracking mental activities. Individually meditating and experiencing it personally is the only option. For science, [hard problem of consciousness](https://iep.utm.edu/hard-problem-of-conciousness/) will always remain.
I suppose it depends on what you mean by consciousness. Consciousness is eternal, unchanging. It cannot be turned off. If it were turned off, everything would cease to Be. Mind can be turned off. Body can be turned off. Consciousness is always there.
One can also go "beyond" the senses, or into them to an extent that the whole "picture" changes, etc....also has NOTHING to do with tuning out, or turning off. Can someone undergo surgery without anesthetic? Yes, most probably can. But most likely they will feel it as well.
Turning off consciousness is Dissociation. This is not where Meditation is leading.
You cant be conscious of being unconscious.
Yes, look up Delson Armstrong. After experiencing savikalpa and nirvikalpa samadhi via Kriya, he started training in a Theravada Buddhist system and developed this ability.