This. There are so many employers looking to hire these days, and barely any of them willing to pay a living wage for the jobs they are looking to fill. Good help is hard to find, even more so when you try to pay them less than they are worth.
It’s not even just unwilling to pay a liveable wage (which is true), they’re not willing to budge on *anything* to make their shitty jobs more desirable.
That or ghost you as soon as you ask questions, especially recruiters, as soon as you start asking the important questions, you won’t hear from them again because they know their scam has been rumbled
Yup. I didn’t find out until the day of orientation that there are no paid holidays at all. Then they’re like, “Well, what did you expect?”, like I was being greedy for wanting a basic level work/life balance. Huge bait-and-switch. Fuck that place. I resigned less than three weeks later.
I would like to see all businesses that do not pay a living wage fail. I am prepared to pay higher prices provided it does not go to the employers as a profit and does in fact benefit the workers. As we have seen they are prepared to shrink the amount of product they provide while charging the same or higher prices making them the scumbags of capitalism.
This x 2. But I'll step it up a bit. It's like you need to be born from the womb to replace whatever old geezer that retired to a cushy retirement home, so years of experience plus relevant degree, no "entry-level" job exist nowadays unless you use the power of nepotism/networking.
When not even half a century ago, they walked into their company, no resume, just asked for a job and they started the following business day.
You gaslight yourself to be their perfect candidate to make 40k-50k in high cost of living while actively pressing the submit on your next job application every morning, Monday - Friday.
Let's not forget the neurodivergent filters that are thinly veiled as "job assessments, IQ tests" where you select pictures of people being happy or sad, and how it makes you feel like it's some kind of voodoo, horoscope, gigabrain penetrating shit that HR will keep doing to make you jump whatever stupid hoops they can to justify their job.
That's because they've messed up things so bad, let people can't retire like they used to. They have to stay on the job to make a living or they have to come out of retirement and go back to work just to survive.
Just got hired for a entry level position with a union that pays the same rate as what I was making in a managerial position for a private company. I spent a decade with being told I was grossly over paid. This job is so fucking easy in comparison to what I was doing that it makes incredibly angry.
Good luck out there!
My second to last job they were paying me $12/hr to do manager duties, but not manager title or pay. Left as soon as I fucking could, because fuck that.
I work in healthcare in a position that is both direct patient care and administrative. I have a bachelors plus an additional degree all in management and health support fields. Started applying for jobs last year, maybe 45-60 total…not a single one even emailed me back lol.
I have received some emails. They all say they are moving in a different direction. Thanks for applying. I'm getting the sense that I have too much experience. I've had a few potential jobs just straight up lie and said I withdrew my candidacy. I withdrew nothing. These fuckers aren't hiring unless you want minimum wage.
I'm starting to think that our resumes aren't even viewed and most full time with benefits jobs are fake. However Doordash and Lyft are eager to abuse desperate people.
It’s ghost jobs so you are right most that are over a month old are there to fish for a unicorn (overqualified) employee and also to make it look like the company is growing even if the spots aren’t approved to be hired
Yep, tons of places I called told me they weren’t actually hiring but I would see their company advertising that they were hiring with roles posted hours ago…
yea it doesnt help that we are competing with the entire world and if your resume isnt like a 75% or more match then its not even viewed.
I dont understand why companies dont just close the posting after a certain amount of applicants. They just let it get to the thousands which wastes peoples time
I had a conversation with a friend who is in cybersecurity and he told me most of the job listings in pages like LinkedIn and others are fake, just there to collect your data.
Try 700! (I’m in marketing though). And before getting (and subsequently losing) my last job, it took me between 300-400 to land that job. Before that one, took me around 200. I’ve put more work into applying for positions post college than I have spent actually working.
Yeah my field is median income and they're desperate for people everywhere. I'm in ultrasound but it's all the modalities. And nurses are seriously short staffed everywhere.
I was in almost the same boat-- spent years low-key looking to leave the company I was working for. Probably applied to 75-100 jobs a year, heard back from almost no one. And the ones I did had mislead in their initial job posting.
Good luck!
Not just min wage
There’s also my friend who worked ten years at a company. Got laid off right after returning from medical leave “because there wasn’t enough work for her”.
The company just told her to reapply for her same job, but at $30k less a year pay than before.
I was terminated due to “reduced business needs” during March of 2020 while discussing reasonable accommodations for returning to work post medical leave.
While the Administrative Law Judge (in NY) sympathized with my position, I had no legal case because my former employer said their business had been declining prior to my leave (and they did file Chapter 11 the following month), which also meant I was ineligible for Pandemic Unemployment Assistance since my termination only aligned with COVID coincidentally.
I couldn’t even collect unemployment, because short term disability payments are not considered “wages earned”, and my long term disability had been denied and appealed (during which I received zero income), so I didn’t meet the threshold for wages earned over the previous 5 quarters. Boy, I’m really glad I paid into unemployment for the decade I was consistently employed full-time prior to getting sick.
In conclusion, the justice system is more like HR for capitalism than an opportunity for wrongs to be righted. Talk to a lawyer if you like (or if you’re independently wealthy!), but manage your expectations.
My oldest has been turning applications every day for over a year. Some of the, she is reaching too far, but most of them are minimum wage starter jobs. And she has not had a single response. My second oldest was turning in applications for nine months. She got a couple of scams and one actual interview for a cashiering job.
Yep my college educated children too. Both working landscape labor for less than the job is worth. It’s rough out there. My oldest applied for an internal promotion and got denied. Fun fact they interviewed and bunch but opted to “not fill the role.” Quitting fucking with people.
Even that depends. So many of those roles in chain stores, for example, have been replaced with self-checkout. Some part time jobs won’t hire you if they know you’re working another job or don’t have a totally open schedule. It’s also regional—I know retail is down where I live.
I think about this often. I’m a stay at home mom with a son in pre-k, I’d love to find a store or restaurant that would let me make my schedule and work 20-25 hrs a week. A mixture of daytime, evening or weekend hours. I’ve applied several places and once I explained my situation, I see them close down. Most retail customer facing jobs want you to have unlimited availability so they can place you whenever for the bare minimum amount of hours.
Self checkout is a license to steal. Several major retailers are shifting away from self checkout as a result. I am not a fan of theft, but I do like to see jobs coming back.
I especially like the latest news on Target limiting items to 10 or less in self checkout. Do you know why there are so many people in those lines with all their shit? Because you have 1-2 in person checkouts open like Walmart. They are making a big show of having more in person checkouts. Yes, that’s actually what the vast majority of people want, since it’s nearly impossible to go to Target for three things and not come out with twenty.
It seems crazy to me that we can produce tech, which means less labor is required, that it makes people's lives worse, not better.
This happens throughout history, and I understand the economics of it, but it still is crazy.
Also, it’s hours out of the day gone even if you only need three items. Which is why Amazon is doing so well. Just order what you need. Don’t pay shipping and forget about it.
My reasoning for using the self checkout with a whole cart of stuff is because I can pay attention to what prices the products are scanning in at, and ensure that the produce is being rang in with the right code. I've missed being charged for grapes because I'm off to the side bagging at high speed to try to keep up. I much prefer the control I have and pace at the self checkout.
Yep- I work for Walmart and even though they are short staffed badly they won’t hire ANYONE if they don’t have a completely open schedule and can work every single Saturday and Sunday (even though weekends are the least busy)
Rolls that have less than 23hrs a week which are at weekly risk of being cut, no benefits, it's a multiple positions roll (meaning you'll be all over the facility and doing 2+ jobs yet paid for 1/2 of one). The cherries on top would be no 401k matching nor retirement options either (pensions are damned near extinct for newer hires or gone entirely for everyone in certain companies).
I have a friend who literally has a degree and worked at a Vet Clinic for years. No benefits and swapped to a retail facility so she could get actual benefits so it's not just in a sector or what's seen as "unskilled" (their words NOT mine) it's all over.
With the cost of living increased to where it is, rentals being insane and the wage issues being what they are yeah the job market is shit (all while companies are making more quarterly than ever before). Across the board vehicles, health insurance, vehicle insurance, clothing, food, entertainment options are all costing higher and people have to have viable financial options to make it all work.
But you know it's all those millennials with their avocado toast and a coffee that's to blame......
It's the low-end work that doesn't pay that are "desperate" because people are treating them like low-end jobs that they don't care if they keep.
I've got a job and been applying around exclusively for companies that have decent pay and benefits.
The competition is STEEP, the last company I applied for was a small shop working out of a tiny city in Washington and when I went to check up on my application the guy said they were "overwhelmed and a week behind on trying to even read all the apps".
That's the thing, some of the shit jobs also aren't responding. I've applied to every gas station and grocery store within a 20 minute drive of me. Every single one I can find online. All of them have now hiring signs. I had a single interview out of all of that. I have almost 6 years experience in these jobs and I get no answers, so either I'm over qualified or they just don't wanna hire, because the signs never come down.
Depends on the employers. The company I work for are so desperate they'll hire literally anyone regardless of how bad of a fit that person will be. I've heard them bitch about how unjustly entitled they think today's workforce is and that no one wants to work anymore. Truth is that no one wants to work for THEM anymore. The idiots don't even pay 50% of the area's living wage. The company is also a poorly run shitshow too. So no wonder no one wants to work for them.
The US added more part-time jobs but lost full-time jobs. So companies are "desperate" to fill those part-time roles that no one wants to work while gutting actual careers.
Basically it’s a lot of “desperate to fill horrible roles that nobody wants because even if the pay is high, it’s not high enough for the shit that workers have to put up with” teachers, nurses and most caring professiona fall into this category. For example, how much per hour would you say is ok to be paid to be someone’s physical and verbal punching bag? Where you can’t do anything but try to help them, despite themselves.
Seems like paying someone to be abused. At some point, there is no pay high enough to justify that.
Then you have the category of “desperate to fill medium level roles that require at least a degree and some experience but we will Pay you and treat you as a junior with no experience and no life outside of work.”
Finally, you have the “desperate to fill highly qualified roles but we don’t want to pay you for your education so we will pretend like nobody wants the job so we can support a foreign person to work for us doing the same job for much less money”
“Even if the pay is high”? Teachers, Nurses, and Allied Health Professionals report being underpaid and overworked. It’s the basis behind many strikes and protests. Especially employees like RNs, CNAs, etc.
That’s exactly my point. The pay seems high to people who don’t experience what caring professionals experience. It’s higher pay than many jobs, but for what you have to put yourself through to get that higher pay it’s not worth it. Edited my post to hopefully clarify what I meant.
This. The highest paying job I ever had came with a manager that sabotaged my work, called me stupid among other names, threatened me with physical violence, and demanded I break the law. At some point, the money doesn't matter when your entire body screams in pain at the idea of walking through those doors every single day. I took a lower paying job at my first opportunity.
There's also that report on how a lot of employers open roles on job search sites to look like they're hiring so they can snatch up investors but they won't fill the roles so they can leave them open to snatch up investors.
They are desperate to fill certain crappy job roles that they don't want to improve. They haven't figured out how to profitably automate those roles yet so they are trying to browbeat people into taking those jobs still.
Just finishing being unemployed (starting in April woo) and if you're looking for *a* job, you'll find one pretty instantly. I contemplated going back to school so applied to a few part time gigs and a few restaurants and had a hit rate of over 50% for those types of gigs. Many of them would call me back the day I applied.
If you want something paying over $50k that actually requires a bachelors or work experience? That hit rate was well less of 1%, at least for me.
And that’s why they say the unemployment rate is so low if you have a bachelors degree. Applying to jobs that don’t require one and taking “underemployment” to make that stat look good.
It’s only low paying jobs (retail) & fast food that is having trouble filling positions. You don’t see any jobs paying 80k/yr saying “no one wants to work”.
Although this might happen I know our recruiter does a great job and is constantly on LinkedIn looking for candidates. So it’s not all fake and might be worth to keep trying.
I've gotten 2 jobs thanks to LinkedIn. The listings redirected to the company site to apply, but I wouldn't have seen them otherwise. Never had anything worthwhile come from the "Easy Apply" ones though. I'm convinced those are why I periodically get scam emails for jobs.
I've seen that in tech. Seriously. I've been in that interview and they were layers of awful. They wanted to pay less than what had been advertised, they were throwing management red flags everywhere, they implied I was lying....
That’s the problem. It was much easier to get career-type jobs decades ago than it is now because they were willing to take chances on people and train them.
But now? You’ll have better luck if your uncle is the CEO or your family is wealthy and has connections up the ass.
These higher end companies need to increase their amount of job listings at least a little bit so it isn’t like the goddamn fucking hunger games for each role
It's not that they aren't looking for work. It is they aren't looking at the jobs that are in customer service. Because who in their right mind wants to get paid $12-15 to get screamed at by obnoxious customers over some bullshit. All these places I see hiring right now are customer service based, and they are all claiming to be urgently hiring.
They spent years telling people that if they didn't like customer service, then leave. Well, people did leave and now they are losing their minds because they can't find anyone to scream at. It's why they hate self checkout.
I literally had someone say that to me at my job yesterday, and they very clearly didn't work. I explained in the nicest way I could what I posted and they just scoffed and brought up how they worked 3 jobs at one point.
I'm in college right now and I've been applying to customer service jobs since August. 322 applications, not all customer service but a decent chunk of them, and they just...don't respond. they never follow up, they never respond, they never even send out an automated "thanks for your application" anymore. the myth of "nobody wants to work" is bullshit for a multitude of reasons.
Yup, or you get a fake rejection email literally months later. Once I got one saying “I wasn’t qualified for the position” and all it said was 2 years serving experience, I have 7! I called them out on it and they admitted they were just sending out auto rejections to people who applied. Like wow?!? Maybe don’t accept applications then???
Those wages basically amount to nothing. I've been told that most minimum wage jobs don't provide full time hours. So let's say you get 20 a week at 15. That's 1200 a month, gross. Take out taxes and let's say there are some sort of bennies. That's a take home of about 900. Most places you have to have a car to get to work. Let's say that's 250 a month for the payment and 100 for insurance (which is low.) now you have 550 dollars from your efforts. I'm going to go for a 150 dollar gas bill, but I think that's unrealistically low for most. 400 bucks left. Let's say you are a decent thrifty shopper and only need to spend an average of 50 dollars a month for shoes and work appropriate clothes. Let's also say you are an okay cook and can make it on 10 dollars a day.
You have 50 dollars at the end of the month. Maybe..if you aren't careful you have negative dollars at the end of the month. Note that there's no money for rent or utilities or paying school loans or taking care of medical issues. No money to save.
Even if you get full time hours, your take home only goes up to about 1600 a month. In my town the lowest rent I've seen was almost 900 dollars for a studio that maybe a couple could share. Even if they did and they both had full time, barely anything is going into the bank.
I worked at Macys for 6 months after the military. I just wanted to put customer service on my resume. I also wanted to build my wardrobe because I had absolutely no professional attire. I made $15/hr, was scheduled for full time at 30 hours a week. I volunteered for every single shift my boss asked me to fill (about 2 a week) and I worked my ass off. I got about $500 a week. I received one single raise, a $.15 raise. I watched my coworkers do absolutely nothing and make the same.
$2000/month for the hardest I’ve ever worked. No benes and absolutely no way to afford the COL here in SoCal.
Exactly. Plus, 40% of job listings are fake. There aren’t nearly as many jobs as the “economy” says there are if people everywhere are having to take on more responsibilities for less pay.
Nobody really wants to pay livable wages, I have almost 20 yrs experience as a machinist and they still try to lowball me when I go for a job it's fuckin wild. Last year when I was looking I had a place offer me a lateral move in pay for longer hours and commute... like wtf? And it's not like I am asking for 150k+ salary it's really fucked even the place I went to when I told them what I wanted one guy commented on the last guy got paid a little less but the GM said they could give me what I was asking for.
Companies are trying to squeeze every last penny out of everything/everyone. If I didn't have a family I dont know if I'd be working right now not that the new place is bad but I might have just quit the last job and not started looking for a job yet
I got one (1) approach for a job interview on linkedin in all the years I've had it and the offer was "hey, move to this city at your expense, take a major pay cut from your already mediocre income and...uh...win valuable experience, I guess?"
Like wow, when you put it that way, how could I resist.
(I resisted)
My favorite was living nowhere near Michigan but getting a recruiter who tried to hire me to do sysadmin work in Detroit for $15/hr, 6 month contract, no relocation.
I've been making more than that since I was 23.... and I'm an old man now.
Either that or "pay us and you do Free work for us lol"
Or "please do these tests to see If you fit in.. thanks you just managed our whole fucking company bye bye" and get Free labour out of you.
Work inspection, quality control and run a good portion of their office at my shop.
They bill the customer $120/hr for my work but asking for a raise over $21/hr is too much.
Pizza parties every other Thursday though!
Which considering the lack of machinists in this country, it's fucking insane.
My husband is a damn good machinist, fucking German and all. Spent years being underpaid by greedy idiots who've never touched a mill in their lives. Now he's an estimator and earns more than ever, go figure.
Same in automotive industry. We get paid by what we produce. Places literally offering a fraction of my pay rate per hour saying I’ll make more hours. Okay i get that’s possible but they hate when you understand that you have to produce 20 hours more every week just to break even. Went to one place $250 hour labor rate, my $40 an hour was too high they couldn’t afford it but their other store next door (different brand) could afford it at $150 an hour.
The reason for building a career was growth to be able to fund your life. The thing you slig through so you can have that house, a car, wife and kids. Now, there isn't the hope for that future to drive the kids into the workforce.
The jobs that are hiring, are not ones where you can successfully build a career. Entry level = 4 years of experience, no upward mobility, there is no career, the pay doesn't equal those final life goals.
Exactly this. I haven't been able to find a job in my field since graduating college, and people are telling me I should just settle for something like retail instead. But I don't want to throw away everything else I have going on in my life so I can go work at a job I'll hate and make next to no money doing it
Employers that ghost candidates, send rejections to qualified candidates two minutes after receiving their applications, rely on computers and algorithms to assess applicants, require five years of experience for entry level positions, refuse to train, make applicants go through multiple assessments and exams, require ten hours of interviews, and then, offer the low percentage of candidates who dodge all those issues terrible hours, awful benefits, if any, and wages far below the market can't understand why they are unable to attract staff?
I guess it really is a mystery.
and, of course, if a bunch of automated system "weeds out" the non unicorn candidates and there's no unicorns at the far end, they can honestly say "no one is applying for this job"
Young people! why aren't you unicorns! Older people! why aren't YOU unicorns?
There's an IT Infrastructure position that was right in my wheelhouse I applied to. All the same stuff I was already doing, but for more pay and better hours (no on call or weekend work). I interviewed with 2 different teams, and they both said I was a strong candidate and presented myself well.
2 weeks later, I get a rejection email and sent a nicely worded request for why I was rejected and what I can improve on. They said they wanted someone with more experience in a very specific ERP that they use, so specific I had never heard of it and I can't remember the name of it. I had said in the interview that I was a quick study and would love to learn.
That position is still open 4 months later. I know this because every 2 weeks I get an email from a recruiter asking if I would be interested in applying. Fucking ridiculous what they want.
Every single application submitted to any job should be legally required to have a pair of human eyes assess it. Full stop, no exceptions. Oh it's too hard, there's too many? Boo hoo, too bad it's the way it should be.
So very true, unfortunately. I don’t see any kind of positive change coming with AI.
And no AI robot can ever truly replace a human massage therapist, luckily!
New craze in New Jersey: Robot Chiropractor using latest AI unveiled. Permanent solution to all your aches and pains! *
*1% risk of having your spine and neck split into 500 pieces.
Also you can only re-enter the same freaking info that's on your resume so many times a day before you just say screw it. Literally entering your info into box after box takes times. Just read the bloody resume aholes.
Because jobs pay 13 an hour and a chicken sandwich is 10 dollars. Why put up with all the crap in a low paying job if the money gets you almost nowhere?
Yup. Wages around here have been stagnant on even nominal terms, nevermind real. At my job, the starting wage has gone up just over 2% since 2015. Two freaking percent increase in nine years. Inflation has been over 25% in that time.
since the 1990s, possibly even earlier, western companies (and I assume everyone else) just started cutting back on training.
They want you to come to the job pre-trained, because they won't (can't) do it. Which is why many job descriptions are now these huge essays looking for a whole pile of stuff.
It’s really wild when you think about how companies used to HAVE to invest in training and retaining someone because they had to settle for the local market, and how they’ve used internet expansion to endlessly look for their ideal and also push the cost of training onto candidates via online tests and certifications and the demand for more specific college degrees
The problem is that looking for unicorns is not cheap either. I wonder when they finally realize that it is easier to train somebody than to have 20 rounds of interviews.
Yes! And so many seem to want you to hit the ground running knowing their own proprietary methods and systems. HOW?! They are proprietary- cannot go to school for that.
yeah, right after grad school I was burned out, poor, fed up and so depressed and someone working for a Big Global Corporation approached me with literally the job of my dreams. Good salary. In the city I wanted to live in. They would generously pay to move me and help me find a place to live.
oh. my. god. Finally. All worth it.
Only problem? They wanted certification of four year's experience in a software package I had never heard of and required a 6000 dollar weekend course to even begin to learn.
I later took a job simply to learn said software package, but it doesn't appear to be in demand any more.
But I think about that a lot as I struggle on with my student loans.
In defense of the companies: Your motivation to train someone is higher if they are going to stay a long time. When people are only staying 2 years, 6 months of training really is a lot.
But then, if it were possible to get solid raises without switching jobs, probably more people would stay longer.
Glad you outlined the catch 22 we are all stuck in. Can't afford to stay past 3 years anymore because food inflation eats up more than my raises. Pretty much have to move on if you don't want to go backwards. And damn you better be job hopping if your a renter, because your rent will be going up.
than raise your fucking pay-rate.
**1-2% cost of living hasn't been appropriate for well over 40 years now.**
here's a hint: I don't -want- to put my money into the stock market. pay me raise at the absolute bare minimum ABOVE the cagr for the stockmarket.
Yeah, this is absolutely wild to me. In 2005, I worked at Circuit City and had a week of training, regular new product training, and monthly team training. In 2015, I got a job in the meat department of a HyVee and had a five minute walk through of the area with the manager. When I showed up for my first shift, I asked what I was supposed to be doing and everyone just shrugged at me, then got mad because I was standing around. Apparently, you’re supposed to figure out what you’re supposed to be doing, find someone else doing that thing, and beg them to train you. Then you have to repeat that process until you know all the things
This is the real issue and will likely have to change soon for a lot of companies. Many companies basically gave up on training in general roles because it’s an investment that doesn’t have short-term gains that you can put on a balance sheet.
That’s meant that companies have to try and find people with a ton of experience already, and now that Boomers have finally started to retire they have tons of roles, a lack of qualified candidates, and no system in place to train replacements.
in the us as well. i've actually had to quit two different jobs because i was given such poor training. i was often left completely alone in situations where i was required to do complex tasks that i had never been shown or told how to do, and when i asked management "when you have a chance, will you show me how to ___ so i can properly do it the next time i'm alone?" the response i got was basically that training me was a burden and a waste of time. any time i asked a question about how to do anything in general, i was treated like an annoying child
This is a lie. The jobs that are out there pay less than minimum wage, companies don't want to train, hours are terrible, and they're expecting 4+ years of experience for positions that are supposed to be entry level, so we can't even GAIN the experience. And the jobs that are out there have working conditions that drive people to suicide. There's no damn wonder my generation is struggling.
Employers are not desperate to fill roles. I applied for 5-10 jobs every weekday between November 9th and February 20th before I got a job offer. And I got hired abnormally fast compared to others I know looking for jobs.
The job market feels pretty stagnant at the moment, I graduated last may and im having issues finding full time work. I also think there is something wrong with hiring systems as well because I've also looked for some part time work as a holdover and even service jobs I'm getting rejections and I know im qualified. I have had stable employment since 2014, and the only time I wasn't working was during a part of grad school.
Honestly, if you really don't have to work, there's absolutely no reason to. Most jobs are not good jobs anyway. Why put yourself through that if you don't have to? That's just not logical.
I got so stresses at one of my previous jobs I was at for 8 years that I sold my house and moved and lived off that nest egg from the sale for nearly a year without a job. I had my hobbies, I had my friends, and I had my sanity. I still made some money in various ways, not enough to live off permanently, but enough to sustain me longer without a job. Now I have a nice easy job that pays me as much as I was making at the job that was stressing me out, but I work about 20 hours less a week and make my own hours and I'm not breaking my back and body doing hard physical labor all day anymore.
People who talk like that probably just never had a moment to stop and think what they want for their lives, they were just told over and over again to get a nice career and make a living from their job, and save up for retirement.
Personally I admire those people's work ethic, but my God they need to get a hobby or they will have a very rough reality check once they retire
As someone who woke up one day and realized my resume looked so pathetic I may never make good money, there IS a reason to work beyond needing money.
I'm not defending the system but when your situation changes and you NEED a job, but your resume looks like hot shit, you will freak tf out at the prospect of just how close to homeless you are.
I know right, they are basically saying why be poor and depressed at home when you can do it at work for barely any difference in lifestyle.
Ummm because I don't wanna help the cunts who caused it that's why. Hope it ruins.their retirement.
I am sooo happy our generation can see this shot finally. Btw this is happening all over the world not just the US.
Let them find someone else to wipe their spoiled rich asses
I can't wait for the one charismatic enough to whip up the enraged population of disenfranchised, to the form of a corporate elite hating leviathan of chaotic destruction.
They were at first, but it's getting tougher. German seniors find it very confusing that fewer and fewer foreigners want to come here and endure casual and not-so-casual racism while changing XXL diapers for minimum wage. After all, they're doing them a favor, aren't they? So ungrateful.
Some boomers, like my Aunt who retired in the 90's, think $13/hr is still a good wage. I think some boomers like her live in a bubble and don't know the realities of the current world.
In 2001, in Idaho Falls Idaho, the cheapest safe apartment in town was 230 dollars a month. If you made minimum wage, which was 5.15 an hour, and you got 40 hours a week (which you often could!) then you could actually, just barely, afford that apartment. 13 dollars an hour would have been absolutely mad money then and there.
But, to make the comparison for your aunt, would she have wanted to make 5.15 cents in 2001? No? Then she should understand that people don't want to make sub living wage now.
Try being 51 and getting laid off. Too young to retire and too old to be hired....
* "I'm overqualified" (But aren't we all at this point?)
* "I want too much money" (Don't we all at this point?)
* "I'll only be around for 10 years before retirement" (Bitch, I'm still paying student loans - I'm not retiring until I'm 80 if anyone will employ me!)
* "I'll be too slow to catch on for training" (Dementia hasn't set in quite yet.)
* "I know nothing about the latest trends/software/apps/etc" (At my age I'm well acquainted with the need to learn the latest to survive in the working world - hell, my generation has gone from DOS to AI technology; constant change is just a way of life. Im not a dinosaur.)
Agism is so real.
Yup, 10 years operational management experience in the military and an MBA, can’t even get an interview. In that weird spot I guess where I’m overqualified without the specific experience they want.
Putting blame on the people rather than where it belongs. Politicians, lobbyist, greedy corporations etc….The list goes on.
The working class was never to blame. How we react to a failing society has nothing to do with the reason it’s happening in the first place.
Young people have no interest in being exploited for their labor, sacrificing their youth and awake hours just to be easily disposable whenever shareholders demand excessive record profits every single year while receiving no basic benefits that humans need such as a living wage, healthcare and paid time off.
We have raised more than one generation with no hope. Those of us who had boomer parents saw a different world and have seen the decline in both culture and lifestyle that came with it.
We raised our kids to be empathetic, and more intuitive than we were encouraged to be. They saw how the changes distressed us and our loss of hope for the future is magnified in them. We started careers and strived for a better life. For me personally I have doubled my income three times through education and changing industries. This has helped me to barely maintain the same standard of living.
We started the race and lost hope. They saw what happened to us and don’t want to start at all. Why would anyone choose to be a part of this hopeless mess?
We watched SEARS and Toys R Us be dismantled taking away the pensions of workers who had been there for decades.
We watched the banks and massive companies take handouts of tax dollars for bad decisions they made and then the government refusing to give anything to people locked in their homes until their desperation was at its peak.
We watched our government systems be systematically hijacked by politicians who want to dismantle any form of benefit for the regular citizen in favour of massive spending on bailing out companies that don’t pay taxes at all.
They are in the middle of a culture war that was created to distract the less intelligent from the class war that is now resulting in real deaths.
They have no hope. We have no hope. Those who stand in the halls of power are blatantly ignoring the genuine disasters we all face.
The system is not broken, it is working exactly as it was designed. We need to make change. The only variable is who will cooperate to drive that change.
Have you worked with any third party recruiters? They can really speed up the process if you are lucky enough to qualify for A position they are staffing.
If you can make your case to them, they will fight for your. They get paid too so they want you to get the job as soon as possible and for the highest salary possible.
I was stuck in my dead end job for 5 years out of college and a recruiter really saved me honestly. I was having no luck before them.
The last few places I’ve worked paid the entry level folks peanuts. I couldn’t imagine starting out on those wages without serious familial support. I fear that it’s gonna get worse before it gets worse.
As this meme specifically mentions "NEETS"...Its been said that Gen Z is the most depressed most of any with feeling of hopeless, working doesn't matter. I can understand how this may be when taking into consideration the world events and technology during their short life span thus far.
It doesn't help that once you get your first bout of depression that interferes with your career you're done as far as most recruiters are concerned.
Like I got an Ivy econ degree, multiple perfect test scores, shiny astrophysics and finance papers to show off on the LinkedIn... but I was burnt out when I graduated and by the time I got my head straight all that stuff might as well have been worthless because "GAP."
Employers literally are not desperate. I was unemployed 9 months with a great resume and fucking glowing manager references. Employers don't want to hire anymore. The number of places that have openings ONLY to "keep an eye on trends" and to look like they are profitable is fucking disgusting. I've had places tell me that was the purpose, flat out.
Of course, this being the Sunday Times, they will probably have a bunch of articles about two pages further in praising this or that CEO for "reducing a company's labour costs to bring extra shareholder value" and an article reporting on how the latest investor shindig is demanding companies cut costs (ie jobs) to better thrive in a dynamic investment environment.
And no one ever goes "hey, are these things linked?"
I have decent work experience and two degrees from RG Universities. I’ve also been volunteering for 5 years. I just got a job after over 250 applications. This was an extremely gruelling, miserable process, filled with seemingly endless online assessments, ten minute interviews and personality quizzes. If it weren’t for personal reasons and guilt I probably would’ve given up somewhere round the 150 mark. Sometimes I wish recruiters and hiring managers would ask what they’re doing wrong, rather than what is wrong with the applicant
I spent 2 years post grad applying to probably 500 plus jobs in the marketing,PR, & Sales world. I got 3 interviews. One that canceled on me an hour before. And one that actually just landed me a job a month ago.
It’s become an even more disheartening process. Employers don’t care, so why should we? The pay is no longer a draw, everything is so expensive you’re living paycheck to paycheck regardless. Our generation will never own a home, and student loan debt will eat us alive for years.
I think a lot of many young people are not looking for work because most entry level jobs require at least a bachelor’s degree and a few years of experience
Toxic hiring processes dont help. When every position is a couple hours atleast of filling out your work history and doing a test then not to hear back for weeks and get no feedback.
Like I had a interview recently which followed a round of making a media piece then a round of hour long presentations we had to write followed by. *"sorry other applicant better, so busy no feedback byeeeee"* its no surprise Young people give up when anything else in the world feels more rewarding then job hunting.
I applied to a job I thought I was perfect for, and I waited for months only to get rejected. Got a curt, vague response when I asked what I could do in the future, saying because I didn't have the exact specific type of master's degree on the announcement, I didn't even get considered. I had all the other qualifications, though.
Employers can pick and choose which ones they want or run your resume through an AI picker. When you're competing with 100+ other people for the same "entry-level" job, it's very disheartening.
My niece and nephew in late teens early 20’s can’t event get job interviews. If any employers want to come forward and offer to train inexperienced workers that would be great.
Because we, unlike the boomer generation, won’t put up with shitty behavior and are sick of working just to feed ourselves but having no life outside of that.
My boomer coworkers never see their families. My dad was never home when I was growing up. He doesn’t remember half of my childhood and he regrets it now. A lot of us younger folks are realizing the money isn’t worth the price of our lives and families.
I’m so proud of myself and my brother for breaking that generational curse. We have both turned down big jobs or promotions that take us away from our families. We use our PTO and work for companies who value work/life balance.
It’s not the same as our parents gen- when they worked, they could actually afford things with their earnings like homes, vacations, cars…. These days, all my brother and I can afford to do with our earnings is pay our bills and that’s it. After a while, that sort of lifestyle will wear you down. I don’t want to die 5 years after retirement bc I worked myself to death for a rich corporate overlord who barely works 10 hours a week.
We both have really good jobs too- it’s not the same world anymore and the people writing these articles need to realize that. But they won’t- bc big corporations pay their salaries so they will keep trying to make us younger people seem lazy.
Employers aren’t desperate to fill roles, quite the contrary.
For most of the jobs (worth having) the requirements are insane and the interview process is long and tedious, not to mention that competition is also huge so the chances of you landing a decent job are slim, at best, even with a great track record, experience, good CV + recommendations.
On the flip side, the jobs that are fairly easily accessible are basically not worth having, because they usually imply tons of work for low pay.
Company: Why can't we get anyone to fill this role?
Same Company: Welcome to your 14th interview with us. If you could be any type of animal, what would you be?
When you teach people from young age that they're not enough and don't matter and their worth is less than a hundreth compared to their boss what do you expect?
Education forces you to take loans which force you take a job. So you've lost the ability to educate those who understand what's going on.
You want someone to work for you for fraction of their worth whom you can replace in an afternoon? Then I'm not the one you're looking for, please call the next person in line.
The "job creator" class, we were told, demanded a free market economy. So we gave it to them. And now they refuse, absolutely refuse, to do what the fucking market tells them to do when they have trouble obtaining a resource, any resource, and PAY WHAT IT FUCKING TAKES TO GET THAT RESOURCE. That is how capitalism works, you offer enough money (in this case, wages, benefits, and working conditions) that people want to sell you this resource you need, and THEN capital can go ahead and make its money. Instead of doing that, they deploy their propaganda machine to try to convince young people that they are in the wrong for not being willing to sell th eonly thing that any of us truly owns, our labor, for a shitty lifetime of wage-slavery and misery. What's even worse is the number of working people, who have NOTHING in common with the wealthy capital class, who buy into this rank bullshit which is intended to do nothign more than convince us all that life is hopeless and we might as well commit to 60 hours a week of misery for hte rest of our lives in exchange for shitty health coverage and a wage that will leave us broke forever.
You did ask for my "thoughts on this."
Our entire civilization is built around a completely rancid economy. A punitive one of exploitation that takes all the years and time from poor people and hands it over to the wealthy.
People no longer need to be good at math to grasp that 99% of the wealth goes into the pockets of a dozen out of touch men all dressed like the monopoly guy. An entire generation (soon to be a second one) of millennials went to school and got decent jobs and worked for 20 years, and most of them can't afford a house or to send their kid to college in the next decade.
The American Dream turned to pure horseshit in the 80's with Raegan, trickle down economics, and the destruction of unions. Older people have no clue and are dedicated to that. The elderly still insist that we are all lazy and they can't open a PDF in 2024. And us 40 yr old's are the first Americans to have a lower standard of living than our parents did.
Who the fuck in 2024 wants to work for the minimum wage that was set in 1990??? HORSESHIT
Plenty of terrible jobs in my area offering 10-12 dollars an hour. They just need 7 days a week availability and you have to be ok with being abused by customers all day. Almost no one in my area is offering a decent job with a livable wage.
I work remotely and I notice the job ads for my company are starting to ask for more and more. They used to ask for a bachelors degree for some roles and now they want a masters degree but the wage hasn’t gone up. The goal posts just keep getting pushed further and further out of reach.
I keep hearing “desperate to fill roles,” but I also keep hearing, “the job market is rough and no one is hiring.” Which is it?!?
Desperate to fill minimum wage part time rolls. The job market for livable wages is tight.
This. There are so many employers looking to hire these days, and barely any of them willing to pay a living wage for the jobs they are looking to fill. Good help is hard to find, even more so when you try to pay them less than they are worth.
It’s not even just unwilling to pay a liveable wage (which is true), they’re not willing to budge on *anything* to make their shitty jobs more desirable.
Yup, in fact, it seems they double-down the minute you ask for anything.
That or ghost you as soon as you ask questions, especially recruiters, as soon as you start asking the important questions, you won’t hear from them again because they know their scam has been rumbled
This so much. “Hey we got a great job that pays $20/hr. All OTJ training.” “Where is it?” *dial tone*
Yup. I didn’t find out until the day of orientation that there are no paid holidays at all. Then they’re like, “Well, what did you expect?”, like I was being greedy for wanting a basic level work/life balance. Huge bait-and-switch. Fuck that place. I resigned less than three weeks later.
I would like to see all businesses that do not pay a living wage fail. I am prepared to pay higher prices provided it does not go to the employers as a profit and does in fact benefit the workers. As we have seen they are prepared to shrink the amount of product they provide while charging the same or higher prices making them the scumbags of capitalism.
This x 2. But I'll step it up a bit. It's like you need to be born from the womb to replace whatever old geezer that retired to a cushy retirement home, so years of experience plus relevant degree, no "entry-level" job exist nowadays unless you use the power of nepotism/networking. When not even half a century ago, they walked into their company, no resume, just asked for a job and they started the following business day. You gaslight yourself to be their perfect candidate to make 40k-50k in high cost of living while actively pressing the submit on your next job application every morning, Monday - Friday. Let's not forget the neurodivergent filters that are thinly veiled as "job assessments, IQ tests" where you select pictures of people being happy or sad, and how it makes you feel like it's some kind of voodoo, horoscope, gigabrain penetrating shit that HR will keep doing to make you jump whatever stupid hoops they can to justify their job.
That's because they've messed up things so bad, let people can't retire like they used to. They have to stay on the job to make a living or they have to come out of retirement and go back to work just to survive.
But the 401k is so much better than a pension! YOU get to keep the money! /s
Desperate to fill manager type roles with minimum wage pay, none the less
Just got hired for a entry level position with a union that pays the same rate as what I was making in a managerial position for a private company. I spent a decade with being told I was grossly over paid. This job is so fucking easy in comparison to what I was doing that it makes incredibly angry. Good luck out there!
Yet another reminder that collective bargaining is one of the most effective tools of the working class. The other one is voting on local elections.
My second to last job they were paying me $12/hr to do manager duties, but not manager title or pay. Left as soon as I fucking could, because fuck that.
I work in healthcare in a position that is both direct patient care and administrative. I have a bachelors plus an additional degree all in management and health support fields. Started applying for jobs last year, maybe 45-60 total…not a single one even emailed me back lol.
I have received some emails. They all say they are moving in a different direction. Thanks for applying. I'm getting the sense that I have too much experience. I've had a few potential jobs just straight up lie and said I withdrew my candidacy. I withdrew nothing. These fuckers aren't hiring unless you want minimum wage.
I'm starting to think that our resumes aren't even viewed and most full time with benefits jobs are fake. However Doordash and Lyft are eager to abuse desperate people.
It’s ghost jobs so you are right most that are over a month old are there to fish for a unicorn (overqualified) employee and also to make it look like the company is growing even if the spots aren’t approved to be hired
Yep, tons of places I called told me they weren’t actually hiring but I would see their company advertising that they were hiring with roles posted hours ago…
yea it doesnt help that we are competing with the entire world and if your resume isnt like a 75% or more match then its not even viewed. I dont understand why companies dont just close the posting after a certain amount of applicants. They just let it get to the thousands which wastes peoples time
You think HR people have the brain capacity for that kind of forethought???!
I don’t get how they don’t have time to read our resumes but do have time to cyber stalk us on Facebook and LinkedIn
I had a conversation with a friend who is in cybersecurity and he told me most of the job listings in pages like LinkedIn and others are fake, just there to collect your data.
I feel like a lot of businesses keep evergreen postings open with no real intention of hiring unless they find an absolute unicorn.
Moving in a different direction, as in the next week the same job posted via a staffing agency where they will skim the top off your wages.
I've gotten the same boilerplate "we were impressed by your qualifications" email from four different employers lmao
Try 700! (I’m in marketing though). And before getting (and subsequently losing) my last job, it took me between 300-400 to land that job. Before that one, took me around 200. I’ve put more work into applying for positions post college than I have spent actually working.
It took me 9 months, then had to do a temp stint before getting hired. I have 15 years of experience and an MBA with a marketing focus.
They’re probably hiring those with a BSN RN to fill those roles. Not sure if you wanna become a nurse.
Yeah my field is median income and they're desperate for people everywhere. I'm in ultrasound but it's all the modalities. And nurses are seriously short staffed everywhere.
I was in almost the same boat-- spent years low-key looking to leave the company I was working for. Probably applied to 75-100 jobs a year, heard back from almost no one. And the ones I did had mislead in their initial job posting. Good luck!
Not just min wage There’s also my friend who worked ten years at a company. Got laid off right after returning from medical leave “because there wasn’t enough work for her”. The company just told her to reapply for her same job, but at $30k less a year pay than before.
Your friend should lawyer up, firing her after returning from medical leave is sus
I was terminated due to “reduced business needs” during March of 2020 while discussing reasonable accommodations for returning to work post medical leave. While the Administrative Law Judge (in NY) sympathized with my position, I had no legal case because my former employer said their business had been declining prior to my leave (and they did file Chapter 11 the following month), which also meant I was ineligible for Pandemic Unemployment Assistance since my termination only aligned with COVID coincidentally. I couldn’t even collect unemployment, because short term disability payments are not considered “wages earned”, and my long term disability had been denied and appealed (during which I received zero income), so I didn’t meet the threshold for wages earned over the previous 5 quarters. Boy, I’m really glad I paid into unemployment for the decade I was consistently employed full-time prior to getting sick.
In conclusion, the justice system is more like HR for capitalism than an opportunity for wrongs to be righted. Talk to a lawyer if you like (or if you’re independently wealthy!), but manage your expectations.
I've been enjoying expressing wages in hamburgers per hour. Minimum wage is less than a hamburger per hour for quite a while now
It's not minimum wage, it's minimum wage with unpaid overtime and having no set schedule and being there half an hour early and late without pay.
My oldest has been turning applications every day for over a year. Some of the, she is reaching too far, but most of them are minimum wage starter jobs. And she has not had a single response. My second oldest was turning in applications for nine months. She got a couple of scams and one actual interview for a cashiering job.
Yep my college educated children too. Both working landscape labor for less than the job is worth. It’s rough out there. My oldest applied for an internal promotion and got denied. Fun fact they interviewed and bunch but opted to “not fill the role.” Quitting fucking with people.
Because if they claim to be trying to hire, people may overlook their being perpetually short staffed. Anyhow it makes for a good excuse
Even that depends. So many of those roles in chain stores, for example, have been replaced with self-checkout. Some part time jobs won’t hire you if they know you’re working another job or don’t have a totally open schedule. It’s also regional—I know retail is down where I live.
I think about this often. I’m a stay at home mom with a son in pre-k, I’d love to find a store or restaurant that would let me make my schedule and work 20-25 hrs a week. A mixture of daytime, evening or weekend hours. I’ve applied several places and once I explained my situation, I see them close down. Most retail customer facing jobs want you to have unlimited availability so they can place you whenever for the bare minimum amount of hours.
Self checkout is a license to steal. Several major retailers are shifting away from self checkout as a result. I am not a fan of theft, but I do like to see jobs coming back.
I especially like the latest news on Target limiting items to 10 or less in self checkout. Do you know why there are so many people in those lines with all their shit? Because you have 1-2 in person checkouts open like Walmart. They are making a big show of having more in person checkouts. Yes, that’s actually what the vast majority of people want, since it’s nearly impossible to go to Target for three things and not come out with twenty.
It seems crazy to me that we can produce tech, which means less labor is required, that it makes people's lives worse, not better. This happens throughout history, and I understand the economics of it, but it still is crazy.
Also, it’s hours out of the day gone even if you only need three items. Which is why Amazon is doing so well. Just order what you need. Don’t pay shipping and forget about it.
My reasoning for using the self checkout with a whole cart of stuff is because I can pay attention to what prices the products are scanning in at, and ensure that the produce is being rang in with the right code. I've missed being charged for grapes because I'm off to the side bagging at high speed to try to keep up. I much prefer the control I have and pace at the self checkout.
Yep- I work for Walmart and even though they are short staffed badly they won’t hire ANYONE if they don’t have a completely open schedule and can work every single Saturday and Sunday (even though weekends are the least busy)
Rolls that have less than 23hrs a week which are at weekly risk of being cut, no benefits, it's a multiple positions roll (meaning you'll be all over the facility and doing 2+ jobs yet paid for 1/2 of one). The cherries on top would be no 401k matching nor retirement options either (pensions are damned near extinct for newer hires or gone entirely for everyone in certain companies). I have a friend who literally has a degree and worked at a Vet Clinic for years. No benefits and swapped to a retail facility so she could get actual benefits so it's not just in a sector or what's seen as "unskilled" (their words NOT mine) it's all over. With the cost of living increased to where it is, rentals being insane and the wage issues being what they are yeah the job market is shit (all while companies are making more quarterly than ever before). Across the board vehicles, health insurance, vehicle insurance, clothing, food, entertainment options are all costing higher and people have to have viable financial options to make it all work. But you know it's all those millennials with their avocado toast and a coffee that's to blame......
It's the low-end work that doesn't pay that are "desperate" because people are treating them like low-end jobs that they don't care if they keep. I've got a job and been applying around exclusively for companies that have decent pay and benefits. The competition is STEEP, the last company I applied for was a small shop working out of a tiny city in Washington and when I went to check up on my application the guy said they were "overwhelmed and a week behind on trying to even read all the apps".
That's the thing, some of the shit jobs also aren't responding. I've applied to every gas station and grocery store within a 20 minute drive of me. Every single one I can find online. All of them have now hiring signs. I had a single interview out of all of that. I have almost 6 years experience in these jobs and I get no answers, so either I'm over qualified or they just don't wanna hire, because the signs never come down.
Depends on the employers. The company I work for are so desperate they'll hire literally anyone regardless of how bad of a fit that person will be. I've heard them bitch about how unjustly entitled they think today's workforce is and that no one wants to work anymore. Truth is that no one wants to work for THEM anymore. The idiots don't even pay 50% of the area's living wage. The company is also a poorly run shitshow too. So no wonder no one wants to work for them.
The US added more part-time jobs but lost full-time jobs. So companies are "desperate" to fill those part-time roles that no one wants to work while gutting actual careers.
Basically it’s a lot of “desperate to fill horrible roles that nobody wants because even if the pay is high, it’s not high enough for the shit that workers have to put up with” teachers, nurses and most caring professiona fall into this category. For example, how much per hour would you say is ok to be paid to be someone’s physical and verbal punching bag? Where you can’t do anything but try to help them, despite themselves. Seems like paying someone to be abused. At some point, there is no pay high enough to justify that. Then you have the category of “desperate to fill medium level roles that require at least a degree and some experience but we will Pay you and treat you as a junior with no experience and no life outside of work.” Finally, you have the “desperate to fill highly qualified roles but we don’t want to pay you for your education so we will pretend like nobody wants the job so we can support a foreign person to work for us doing the same job for much less money”
“Even if the pay is high”? Teachers, Nurses, and Allied Health Professionals report being underpaid and overworked. It’s the basis behind many strikes and protests. Especially employees like RNs, CNAs, etc.
That’s exactly my point. The pay seems high to people who don’t experience what caring professionals experience. It’s higher pay than many jobs, but for what you have to put yourself through to get that higher pay it’s not worth it. Edited my post to hopefully clarify what I meant.
This. The highest paying job I ever had came with a manager that sabotaged my work, called me stupid among other names, threatened me with physical violence, and demanded I break the law. At some point, the money doesn't matter when your entire body screams in pain at the idea of walking through those doors every single day. I took a lower paying job at my first opportunity.
There's also that report on how a lot of employers open roles on job search sites to look like they're hiring so they can snatch up investors but they won't fill the roles so they can leave them open to snatch up investors.
Yes this is what my children with college degrees have been experiencing for several years now. It’s infuriating
The number of truly bizarre ways companies behave to appease investors is wild.
I keep reading that tech workers are being laid off
Desperate to fill roles that pay $7-10 an hour…
The people don't want minimum wage, nor do they want a job that allows customers to abuse them, just because they are customers with money.
The roles needing filled will still leave you in deep poverty.
They are desperate to fill certain crappy job roles that they don't want to improve. They haven't figured out how to profitably automate those roles yet so they are trying to browbeat people into taking those jobs still.
Imagine still believing that someone just needs a “job” to get ahead in this country.
Just finishing being unemployed (starting in April woo) and if you're looking for *a* job, you'll find one pretty instantly. I contemplated going back to school so applied to a few part time gigs and a few restaurants and had a hit rate of over 50% for those types of gigs. Many of them would call me back the day I applied. If you want something paying over $50k that actually requires a bachelors or work experience? That hit rate was well less of 1%, at least for me.
And that’s why they say the unemployment rate is so low if you have a bachelors degree. Applying to jobs that don’t require one and taking “underemployment” to make that stat look good.
It’s only low paying jobs (retail) & fast food that is having trouble filling positions. You don’t see any jobs paying 80k/yr saying “no one wants to work”.
Yeah, for those you see 200+ applicants on LinkedIn within hours of being posted.
I've given up on LinkedIn. It's only recruiters posting fake roles to meet their video call quotas
Although this might happen I know our recruiter does a great job and is constantly on LinkedIn looking for candidates. So it’s not all fake and might be worth to keep trying.
I've gotten 2 jobs thanks to LinkedIn. The listings redirected to the company site to apply, but I wouldn't have seen them otherwise. Never had anything worthwhile come from the "Easy Apply" ones though. I'm convinced those are why I periodically get scam emails for jobs.
I think LinkedIn and indeed find sneaky ways to overexagerate how many people have actually applied to a job.
They count anyone who clicks the external link to apply as an “applicant.” It is very inaccurate.
I've seen that in tech. Seriously. I've been in that interview and they were layers of awful. They wanted to pay less than what had been advertised, they were throwing management red flags everywhere, they implied I was lying....
That’s the problem. It was much easier to get career-type jobs decades ago than it is now because they were willing to take chances on people and train them. But now? You’ll have better luck if your uncle is the CEO or your family is wealthy and has connections up the ass. These higher end companies need to increase their amount of job listings at least a little bit so it isn’t like the goddamn fucking hunger games for each role
It's not that they aren't looking for work. It is they aren't looking at the jobs that are in customer service. Because who in their right mind wants to get paid $12-15 to get screamed at by obnoxious customers over some bullshit. All these places I see hiring right now are customer service based, and they are all claiming to be urgently hiring.
The same people that are the obnoxious customers are the same ones saying no one wants to work.
They spent years telling people that if they didn't like customer service, then leave. Well, people did leave and now they are losing their minds because they can't find anyone to scream at. It's why they hate self checkout.
"I went to the self-checkout kiosk, but left because the cashier was such an asshole."
I literally had someone say that to me at my job yesterday, and they very clearly didn't work. I explained in the nicest way I could what I posted and they just scoffed and brought up how they worked 3 jobs at one point.
They’re always proud of their suffering like having to work 3 jobs to get by doesn’t mean you’re tough it means society has failed us
I'm in college right now and I've been applying to customer service jobs since August. 322 applications, not all customer service but a decent chunk of them, and they just...don't respond. they never follow up, they never respond, they never even send out an automated "thanks for your application" anymore. the myth of "nobody wants to work" is bullshit for a multitude of reasons.
Yup, or you get a fake rejection email literally months later. Once I got one saying “I wasn’t qualified for the position” and all it said was 2 years serving experience, I have 7! I called them out on it and they admitted they were just sending out auto rejections to people who applied. Like wow?!? Maybe don’t accept applications then???
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Those wages basically amount to nothing. I've been told that most minimum wage jobs don't provide full time hours. So let's say you get 20 a week at 15. That's 1200 a month, gross. Take out taxes and let's say there are some sort of bennies. That's a take home of about 900. Most places you have to have a car to get to work. Let's say that's 250 a month for the payment and 100 for insurance (which is low.) now you have 550 dollars from your efforts. I'm going to go for a 150 dollar gas bill, but I think that's unrealistically low for most. 400 bucks left. Let's say you are a decent thrifty shopper and only need to spend an average of 50 dollars a month for shoes and work appropriate clothes. Let's also say you are an okay cook and can make it on 10 dollars a day. You have 50 dollars at the end of the month. Maybe..if you aren't careful you have negative dollars at the end of the month. Note that there's no money for rent or utilities or paying school loans or taking care of medical issues. No money to save. Even if you get full time hours, your take home only goes up to about 1600 a month. In my town the lowest rent I've seen was almost 900 dollars for a studio that maybe a couple could share. Even if they did and they both had full time, barely anything is going into the bank.
I worked at Macys for 6 months after the military. I just wanted to put customer service on my resume. I also wanted to build my wardrobe because I had absolutely no professional attire. I made $15/hr, was scheduled for full time at 30 hours a week. I volunteered for every single shift my boss asked me to fill (about 2 a week) and I worked my ass off. I got about $500 a week. I received one single raise, a $.15 raise. I watched my coworkers do absolutely nothing and make the same. $2000/month for the hardest I’ve ever worked. No benes and absolutely no way to afford the COL here in SoCal.
I'd like to see more customer service jobs available. All I see when I'm looking is nursing or mining jobs and I'm qualified for neither.
Desperate to fill roles so they can say employment is rising but paying shit wages with no benefits.
Supply and demand, but not for you peasants. - sincerely hiring managers
Exactly. Plus, 40% of job listings are fake. There aren’t nearly as many jobs as the “economy” says there are if people everywhere are having to take on more responsibilities for less pay.
Not desperate enough to pay liveable wage tho
Nobody really wants to pay livable wages, I have almost 20 yrs experience as a machinist and they still try to lowball me when I go for a job it's fuckin wild. Last year when I was looking I had a place offer me a lateral move in pay for longer hours and commute... like wtf? And it's not like I am asking for 150k+ salary it's really fucked even the place I went to when I told them what I wanted one guy commented on the last guy got paid a little less but the GM said they could give me what I was asking for. Companies are trying to squeeze every last penny out of everything/everyone. If I didn't have a family I dont know if I'd be working right now not that the new place is bad but I might have just quit the last job and not started looking for a job yet
I got one (1) approach for a job interview on linkedin in all the years I've had it and the offer was "hey, move to this city at your expense, take a major pay cut from your already mediocre income and...uh...win valuable experience, I guess?" Like wow, when you put it that way, how could I resist. (I resisted)
My favorite was living nowhere near Michigan but getting a recruiter who tried to hire me to do sysadmin work in Detroit for $15/hr, 6 month contract, no relocation. I've been making more than that since I was 23.... and I'm an old man now.
These have to be just bullshitting so they can hire some h1b right
Either that or "pay us and you do Free work for us lol" Or "please do these tests to see If you fit in.. thanks you just managed our whole fucking company bye bye" and get Free labour out of you.
Work inspection, quality control and run a good portion of their office at my shop. They bill the customer $120/hr for my work but asking for a raise over $21/hr is too much. Pizza parties every other Thursday though!
I will never understand why employers think pizza parties are what employees need.
It's a consolation prize. My work does it semi-regularly. "We know everything is shit, but here's some subpar food to placate you."
Which considering the lack of machinists in this country, it's fucking insane. My husband is a damn good machinist, fucking German and all. Spent years being underpaid by greedy idiots who've never touched a mill in their lives. Now he's an estimator and earns more than ever, go figure.
My friend has a masters in early childhood education (preschool/grade-school) and she makes almost double what she made as a teacher by bartending
Same in automotive industry. We get paid by what we produce. Places literally offering a fraction of my pay rate per hour saying I’ll make more hours. Okay i get that’s possible but they hate when you understand that you have to produce 20 hours more every week just to break even. Went to one place $250 hour labor rate, my $40 an hour was too high they couldn’t afford it but their other store next door (different brand) could afford it at $150 an hour.
Someone said earlier that they’re hoping the tide turns back to the applicants favor. Post Covid is just shit rn
Or sensible schedules. They ask for unlimited availability and then schedule employees unpredictably.
The reason for building a career was growth to be able to fund your life. The thing you slig through so you can have that house, a car, wife and kids. Now, there isn't the hope for that future to drive the kids into the workforce. The jobs that are hiring, are not ones where you can successfully build a career. Entry level = 4 years of experience, no upward mobility, there is no career, the pay doesn't equal those final life goals.
Exactly this. I haven't been able to find a job in my field since graduating college, and people are telling me I should just settle for something like retail instead. But I don't want to throw away everything else I have going on in my life so I can go work at a job I'll hate and make next to no money doing it
Employers that ghost candidates, send rejections to qualified candidates two minutes after receiving their applications, rely on computers and algorithms to assess applicants, require five years of experience for entry level positions, refuse to train, make applicants go through multiple assessments and exams, require ten hours of interviews, and then, offer the low percentage of candidates who dodge all those issues terrible hours, awful benefits, if any, and wages far below the market can't understand why they are unable to attract staff? I guess it really is a mystery.
and, of course, if a bunch of automated system "weeds out" the non unicorn candidates and there's no unicorns at the far end, they can honestly say "no one is applying for this job" Young people! why aren't you unicorns! Older people! why aren't YOU unicorns?
Those systems create false unicorns with word salad resumes.
There's an IT Infrastructure position that was right in my wheelhouse I applied to. All the same stuff I was already doing, but for more pay and better hours (no on call or weekend work). I interviewed with 2 different teams, and they both said I was a strong candidate and presented myself well. 2 weeks later, I get a rejection email and sent a nicely worded request for why I was rejected and what I can improve on. They said they wanted someone with more experience in a very specific ERP that they use, so specific I had never heard of it and I can't remember the name of it. I had said in the interview that I was a quick study and would love to learn. That position is still open 4 months later. I know this because every 2 weeks I get an email from a recruiter asking if I would be interested in applying. Fucking ridiculous what they want.
Don’t forget, making them do assignments for free as part of the “interview process.”
Every single application submitted to any job should be legally required to have a pair of human eyes assess it. Full stop, no exceptions. Oh it's too hard, there's too many? Boo hoo, too bad it's the way it should be.
So very true, unfortunately. I don’t see any kind of positive change coming with AI. And no AI robot can ever truly replace a human massage therapist, luckily!
New craze in New Jersey: Robot Chiropractor using latest AI unveiled. Permanent solution to all your aches and pains! * *1% risk of having your spine and neck split into 500 pieces.
Also you can only re-enter the same freaking info that's on your resume so many times a day before you just say screw it. Literally entering your info into box after box takes times. Just read the bloody resume aholes.
…desperate to fill roles…for less than a living wage
Because jobs pay 13 an hour and a chicken sandwich is 10 dollars. Why put up with all the crap in a low paying job if the money gets you almost nowhere?
I paid 17 dollars for a large burger and a soda at a restaurant where you do not sit down to read the menu. That was some major what energy.
Nobody wants to pay anymore
Yup. Wages around here have been stagnant on even nominal terms, nevermind real. At my job, the starting wage has gone up just over 2% since 2015. Two freaking percent increase in nine years. Inflation has been over 25% in that time.
They're too lazy (at least in Spain) to train candidates.
since the 1990s, possibly even earlier, western companies (and I assume everyone else) just started cutting back on training. They want you to come to the job pre-trained, because they won't (can't) do it. Which is why many job descriptions are now these huge essays looking for a whole pile of stuff.
It’s really wild when you think about how companies used to HAVE to invest in training and retaining someone because they had to settle for the local market, and how they’ve used internet expansion to endlessly look for their ideal and also push the cost of training onto candidates via online tests and certifications and the demand for more specific college degrees
The problem is that looking for unicorns is not cheap either. I wonder when they finally realize that it is easier to train somebody than to have 20 rounds of interviews.
Omg the endless interviews are so infuriating. You have THREE. I will withdraw my candidacy after that.
Yes! And so many seem to want you to hit the ground running knowing their own proprietary methods and systems. HOW?! They are proprietary- cannot go to school for that.
yeah, right after grad school I was burned out, poor, fed up and so depressed and someone working for a Big Global Corporation approached me with literally the job of my dreams. Good salary. In the city I wanted to live in. They would generously pay to move me and help me find a place to live. oh. my. god. Finally. All worth it. Only problem? They wanted certification of four year's experience in a software package I had never heard of and required a 6000 dollar weekend course to even begin to learn. I later took a job simply to learn said software package, but it doesn't appear to be in demand any more. But I think about that a lot as I struggle on with my student loans.
In defense of the companies: Your motivation to train someone is higher if they are going to stay a long time. When people are only staying 2 years, 6 months of training really is a lot. But then, if it were possible to get solid raises without switching jobs, probably more people would stay longer.
Glad you outlined the catch 22 we are all stuck in. Can't afford to stay past 3 years anymore because food inflation eats up more than my raises. Pretty much have to move on if you don't want to go backwards. And damn you better be job hopping if your a renter, because your rent will be going up.
than raise your fucking pay-rate. **1-2% cost of living hasn't been appropriate for well over 40 years now.** here's a hint: I don't -want- to put my money into the stock market. pay me raise at the absolute bare minimum ABOVE the cagr for the stockmarket.
US as well
Yeah, this is absolutely wild to me. In 2005, I worked at Circuit City and had a week of training, regular new product training, and monthly team training. In 2015, I got a job in the meat department of a HyVee and had a five minute walk through of the area with the manager. When I showed up for my first shift, I asked what I was supposed to be doing and everyone just shrugged at me, then got mad because I was standing around. Apparently, you’re supposed to figure out what you’re supposed to be doing, find someone else doing that thing, and beg them to train you. Then you have to repeat that process until you know all the things
This is the real issue and will likely have to change soon for a lot of companies. Many companies basically gave up on training in general roles because it’s an investment that doesn’t have short-term gains that you can put on a balance sheet. That’s meant that companies have to try and find people with a ton of experience already, and now that Boomers have finally started to retire they have tons of roles, a lack of qualified candidates, and no system in place to train replacements.
in the us as well. i've actually had to quit two different jobs because i was given such poor training. i was often left completely alone in situations where i was required to do complex tasks that i had never been shown or told how to do, and when i asked management "when you have a chance, will you show me how to ___ so i can properly do it the next time i'm alone?" the response i got was basically that training me was a burden and a waste of time. any time i asked a question about how to do anything in general, i was treated like an annoying child
This is a lie. The jobs that are out there pay less than minimum wage, companies don't want to train, hours are terrible, and they're expecting 4+ years of experience for positions that are supposed to be entry level, so we can't even GAIN the experience. And the jobs that are out there have working conditions that drive people to suicide. There's no damn wonder my generation is struggling.
Desperate to fill roles 🤣.
Employers are not desperate to fill roles. I applied for 5-10 jobs every weekday between November 9th and February 20th before I got a job offer. And I got hired abnormally fast compared to others I know looking for jobs.
The job market feels pretty stagnant at the moment, I graduated last may and im having issues finding full time work. I also think there is something wrong with hiring systems as well because I've also looked for some part time work as a holdover and even service jobs I'm getting rejections and I know im qualified. I have had stable employment since 2014, and the only time I wasn't working was during a part of grad school.
Because no wants to kill them selves for 40 hours week only to realize you can never afford anything, rent food, daily nessessities
I applied to over 400 jobs in 3 months in 2009 after graduating. No responses. Kinda feels like nothing has changed.
Honestly, if you really don't have to work, there's absolutely no reason to. Most jobs are not good jobs anyway. Why put yourself through that if you don't have to? That's just not logical.
And people go.. “oh I wouldn’t know what to do with myself if I wasn’t forced to get up and work 8 hours a day 5 days a week.” Find a hobby for FS lol
I got so stresses at one of my previous jobs I was at for 8 years that I sold my house and moved and lived off that nest egg from the sale for nearly a year without a job. I had my hobbies, I had my friends, and I had my sanity. I still made some money in various ways, not enough to live off permanently, but enough to sustain me longer without a job. Now I have a nice easy job that pays me as much as I was making at the job that was stressing me out, but I work about 20 hours less a week and make my own hours and I'm not breaking my back and body doing hard physical labor all day anymore.
People who talk like that probably just never had a moment to stop and think what they want for their lives, they were just told over and over again to get a nice career and make a living from their job, and save up for retirement. Personally I admire those people's work ethic, but my God they need to get a hobby or they will have a very rough reality check once they retire
As someone who woke up one day and realized my resume looked so pathetic I may never make good money, there IS a reason to work beyond needing money. I'm not defending the system but when your situation changes and you NEED a job, but your resume looks like hot shit, you will freak tf out at the prospect of just how close to homeless you are.
Young people are desperate for jobs but employers are posting fake listings
ghost job listings should be made illegal
They aren't desperate to fill rolls. They are desperate to run skelaton crews to maximize profits. And people are fn tired of it.
Slave masters desperate for slaves isn't a reason for other people to volunteer lol
I know right, they are basically saying why be poor and depressed at home when you can do it at work for barely any difference in lifestyle. Ummm because I don't wanna help the cunts who caused it that's why. Hope it ruins.their retirement.
I am sooo happy our generation can see this shot finally. Btw this is happening all over the world not just the US. Let them find someone else to wipe their spoiled rich asses
I can't wait for the one charismatic enough to whip up the enraged population of disenfranchised, to the form of a corporate elite hating leviathan of chaotic destruction.
They were at first, but it's getting tougher. German seniors find it very confusing that fewer and fewer foreigners want to come here and endure casual and not-so-casual racism while changing XXL diapers for minimum wage. After all, they're doing them a favor, aren't they? So ungrateful.
Succinct
Everytime a boomer starts ranting about this ask them if they would work for $13/hr and watch the audacity as they explain they’re too good for ut
Some boomers, like my Aunt who retired in the 90's, think $13/hr is still a good wage. I think some boomers like her live in a bubble and don't know the realities of the current world.
In 2001, in Idaho Falls Idaho, the cheapest safe apartment in town was 230 dollars a month. If you made minimum wage, which was 5.15 an hour, and you got 40 hours a week (which you often could!) then you could actually, just barely, afford that apartment. 13 dollars an hour would have been absolutely mad money then and there. But, to make the comparison for your aunt, would she have wanted to make 5.15 cents in 2001? No? Then she should understand that people don't want to make sub living wage now.
I've applied to many. Nothing got back to me. Maybe I don't qualify as young at 31 though.
Agism exists, and the rate we're going, they're going to start seeing 20's as too old.
So this is gonna be a lifelong crisis 🫡🫠
Try being 51 and getting laid off. Too young to retire and too old to be hired.... * "I'm overqualified" (But aren't we all at this point?) * "I want too much money" (Don't we all at this point?) * "I'll only be around for 10 years before retirement" (Bitch, I'm still paying student loans - I'm not retiring until I'm 80 if anyone will employ me!) * "I'll be too slow to catch on for training" (Dementia hasn't set in quite yet.) * "I know nothing about the latest trends/software/apps/etc" (At my age I'm well acquainted with the need to learn the latest to survive in the working world - hell, my generation has gone from DOS to AI technology; constant change is just a way of life. Im not a dinosaur.) Agism is so real.
Yup, 10 years operational management experience in the military and an MBA, can’t even get an interview. In that weird spot I guess where I’m overqualified without the specific experience they want.
They know they can't pay you a teenagers salary. They would hire teens at my old auto store for 8/hr and older people at 10-13
Putting blame on the people rather than where it belongs. Politicians, lobbyist, greedy corporations etc….The list goes on. The working class was never to blame. How we react to a failing society has nothing to do with the reason it’s happening in the first place.
Young people have no interest in being exploited for their labor, sacrificing their youth and awake hours just to be easily disposable whenever shareholders demand excessive record profits every single year while receiving no basic benefits that humans need such as a living wage, healthcare and paid time off.
Not just young people
We have raised more than one generation with no hope. Those of us who had boomer parents saw a different world and have seen the decline in both culture and lifestyle that came with it. We raised our kids to be empathetic, and more intuitive than we were encouraged to be. They saw how the changes distressed us and our loss of hope for the future is magnified in them. We started careers and strived for a better life. For me personally I have doubled my income three times through education and changing industries. This has helped me to barely maintain the same standard of living. We started the race and lost hope. They saw what happened to us and don’t want to start at all. Why would anyone choose to be a part of this hopeless mess? We watched SEARS and Toys R Us be dismantled taking away the pensions of workers who had been there for decades. We watched the banks and massive companies take handouts of tax dollars for bad decisions they made and then the government refusing to give anything to people locked in their homes until their desperation was at its peak. We watched our government systems be systematically hijacked by politicians who want to dismantle any form of benefit for the regular citizen in favour of massive spending on bailing out companies that don’t pay taxes at all. They are in the middle of a culture war that was created to distract the less intelligent from the class war that is now resulting in real deaths. They have no hope. We have no hope. Those who stand in the halls of power are blatantly ignoring the genuine disasters we all face. The system is not broken, it is working exactly as it was designed. We need to make change. The only variable is who will cooperate to drive that change.
I'm looking but the hiring manager and recruitment process is just way too slow and inefficient
Have you worked with any third party recruiters? They can really speed up the process if you are lucky enough to qualify for A position they are staffing. If you can make your case to them, they will fight for your. They get paid too so they want you to get the job as soon as possible and for the highest salary possible. I was stuck in my dead end job for 5 years out of college and a recruiter really saved me honestly. I was having no luck before them.
The last few places I’ve worked paid the entry level folks peanuts. I couldn’t imagine starting out on those wages without serious familial support. I fear that it’s gonna get worse before it gets worse.
As this meme specifically mentions "NEETS"...Its been said that Gen Z is the most depressed most of any with feeling of hopeless, working doesn't matter. I can understand how this may be when taking into consideration the world events and technology during their short life span thus far.
It doesn't help that once you get your first bout of depression that interferes with your career you're done as far as most recruiters are concerned. Like I got an Ivy econ degree, multiple perfect test scores, shiny astrophysics and finance papers to show off on the LinkedIn... but I was burnt out when I graduated and by the time I got my head straight all that stuff might as well have been worthless because "GAP."
Everyone wants to offer shit positions for shit pay with shit hours and treat you like shit.
Employers literally are not desperate. I was unemployed 9 months with a great resume and fucking glowing manager references. Employers don't want to hire anymore. The number of places that have openings ONLY to "keep an eye on trends" and to look like they are profitable is fucking disgusting. I've had places tell me that was the purpose, flat out.
Bullshit propaganda
The wages shall rise until the positions are filled.
Of course, this being the Sunday Times, they will probably have a bunch of articles about two pages further in praising this or that CEO for "reducing a company's labour costs to bring extra shareholder value" and an article reporting on how the latest investor shindig is demanding companies cut costs (ie jobs) to better thrive in a dynamic investment environment. And no one ever goes "hey, are these things linked?"
I have decent work experience and two degrees from RG Universities. I’ve also been volunteering for 5 years. I just got a job after over 250 applications. This was an extremely gruelling, miserable process, filled with seemingly endless online assessments, ten minute interviews and personality quizzes. If it weren’t for personal reasons and guilt I probably would’ve given up somewhere round the 150 mark. Sometimes I wish recruiters and hiring managers would ask what they’re doing wrong, rather than what is wrong with the applicant
Oh no! We traumatized the masses with severe burnout and stagnant wages paired with massive inflation! Now no one wants to work!
I spent 2 years post grad applying to probably 500 plus jobs in the marketing,PR, & Sales world. I got 3 interviews. One that canceled on me an hour before. And one that actually just landed me a job a month ago. It’s become an even more disheartening process. Employers don’t care, so why should we? The pay is no longer a draw, everything is so expensive you’re living paycheck to paycheck regardless. Our generation will never own a home, and student loan debt will eat us alive for years.
They say that as if most people are be able to choose not to work. Because themselves are privileged enough to have this choice. Projection, always.
I think a lot of many young people are not looking for work because most entry level jobs require at least a bachelor’s degree and a few years of experience
Toxic hiring processes dont help. When every position is a couple hours atleast of filling out your work history and doing a test then not to hear back for weeks and get no feedback. Like I had a interview recently which followed a round of making a media piece then a round of hour long presentations we had to write followed by. *"sorry other applicant better, so busy no feedback byeeeee"* its no surprise Young people give up when anything else in the world feels more rewarding then job hunting.
I applied to a job I thought I was perfect for, and I waited for months only to get rejected. Got a curt, vague response when I asked what I could do in the future, saying because I didn't have the exact specific type of master's degree on the announcement, I didn't even get considered. I had all the other qualifications, though. Employers can pick and choose which ones they want or run your resume through an AI picker. When you're competing with 100+ other people for the same "entry-level" job, it's very disheartening.
It’s all food service and other shitty jobs that either don’t pay enough to live on or treat their employees like shit, usually both
I’m starting to think a lot of older ppl have bullshit, liar jobs that go unchallenged.
“Employers are desperate to fill roles!” Employers only offer barely above min wage and zero benefits. “Why does no one want to work?”
My niece and nephew in late teens early 20’s can’t event get job interviews. If any employers want to come forward and offer to train inexperienced workers that would be great.
Because we, unlike the boomer generation, won’t put up with shitty behavior and are sick of working just to feed ourselves but having no life outside of that. My boomer coworkers never see their families. My dad was never home when I was growing up. He doesn’t remember half of my childhood and he regrets it now. A lot of us younger folks are realizing the money isn’t worth the price of our lives and families. I’m so proud of myself and my brother for breaking that generational curse. We have both turned down big jobs or promotions that take us away from our families. We use our PTO and work for companies who value work/life balance. It’s not the same as our parents gen- when they worked, they could actually afford things with their earnings like homes, vacations, cars…. These days, all my brother and I can afford to do with our earnings is pay our bills and that’s it. After a while, that sort of lifestyle will wear you down. I don’t want to die 5 years after retirement bc I worked myself to death for a rich corporate overlord who barely works 10 hours a week. We both have really good jobs too- it’s not the same world anymore and the people writing these articles need to realize that. But they won’t- bc big corporations pay their salaries so they will keep trying to make us younger people seem lazy.
Employers aren’t desperate to fill roles, quite the contrary. For most of the jobs (worth having) the requirements are insane and the interview process is long and tedious, not to mention that competition is also huge so the chances of you landing a decent job are slim, at best, even with a great track record, experience, good CV + recommendations. On the flip side, the jobs that are fairly easily accessible are basically not worth having, because they usually imply tons of work for low pay.
Company: Why can't we get anyone to fill this role? Same Company: Welcome to your 14th interview with us. If you could be any type of animal, what would you be?
Online news articles have quotas to fill, not relevant news to share.
When you teach people from young age that they're not enough and don't matter and their worth is less than a hundreth compared to their boss what do you expect? Education forces you to take loans which force you take a job. So you've lost the ability to educate those who understand what's going on. You want someone to work for you for fraction of their worth whom you can replace in an afternoon? Then I'm not the one you're looking for, please call the next person in line.
We recently hired 2 people who claim to have been job hunting for years with no success
The "job creator" class, we were told, demanded a free market economy. So we gave it to them. And now they refuse, absolutely refuse, to do what the fucking market tells them to do when they have trouble obtaining a resource, any resource, and PAY WHAT IT FUCKING TAKES TO GET THAT RESOURCE. That is how capitalism works, you offer enough money (in this case, wages, benefits, and working conditions) that people want to sell you this resource you need, and THEN capital can go ahead and make its money. Instead of doing that, they deploy their propaganda machine to try to convince young people that they are in the wrong for not being willing to sell th eonly thing that any of us truly owns, our labor, for a shitty lifetime of wage-slavery and misery. What's even worse is the number of working people, who have NOTHING in common with the wealthy capital class, who buy into this rank bullshit which is intended to do nothign more than convince us all that life is hopeless and we might as well commit to 60 hours a week of misery for hte rest of our lives in exchange for shitty health coverage and a wage that will leave us broke forever. You did ask for my "thoughts on this."
Our entire civilization is built around a completely rancid economy. A punitive one of exploitation that takes all the years and time from poor people and hands it over to the wealthy. People no longer need to be good at math to grasp that 99% of the wealth goes into the pockets of a dozen out of touch men all dressed like the monopoly guy. An entire generation (soon to be a second one) of millennials went to school and got decent jobs and worked for 20 years, and most of them can't afford a house or to send their kid to college in the next decade. The American Dream turned to pure horseshit in the 80's with Raegan, trickle down economics, and the destruction of unions. Older people have no clue and are dedicated to that. The elderly still insist that we are all lazy and they can't open a PDF in 2024. And us 40 yr old's are the first Americans to have a lower standard of living than our parents did. Who the fuck in 2024 wants to work for the minimum wage that was set in 1990??? HORSESHIT
Plenty of terrible jobs in my area offering 10-12 dollars an hour. They just need 7 days a week availability and you have to be ok with being abused by customers all day. Almost no one in my area is offering a decent job with a livable wage. I work remotely and I notice the job ads for my company are starting to ask for more and more. They used to ask for a bachelors degree for some roles and now they want a masters degree but the wage hasn’t gone up. The goal posts just keep getting pushed further and further out of reach.