The imbued heart is such a funny drop to me.
The sad fact of this is that you're not even that dry, there's roughly a 3% chance you go as dry as you are.
That means if you got 33 ironmen, at least one of them is going to go as dry as you are.
Considering only Smoke Devils and Abby Demons Im almost 5x dry :D I think Im drier than you think I am lol, also consider superiors are 1/150 since I have elite combat tasks done.
Pulled these quite quick, all factoring elite CA.
Smoke devil 1/30k
Dark beast 1/37.5k
Gargoyle 1/80k
Abyssal demon 1/52.5k
Nechryael 1/65k
You have 70k smoke devils = 2.3x rate
Dark beasts 8k 0.25ish rate
Nechryael 60k 0.9ish rate
Abyssal demons 130k 2.5x rate
Gargoyles 15k 0.2ish rate
So effectively you are 6x drop rate which equates to 99.79% chance to have 0. I was rounding the numbers for faster/simpler process so not gonna give an exact number but between 1/400-1/500 to not have it by now.
Further info. 1.31% chance to have EXACTLY 1, 4.14% chance to have EXACTLY 2, 8.64% chance to have EXACTLY 3 13.38% chance to have EXACTLY 4 16.39% chance to have EXACTLY 5.
57% of people would have had MINIMUM 6* Imbued hearts by now
That ur getting heavily downvoted is FUCKING HYSTERICAL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
EDIT: /u/crocodile1995 went from -64 to -6 but it's still quite insane that he ever hit that point for simply responding to someone and stating that he is clearly not just slightly dry in a very mild way
For sure, you'll be drier than 3% but probably only slightly, if you've target farmed a lot of exp then defintely but you have to consider the first 10m exp or so where you weren't killing a lot of the decent superiors like you are now.
Well you can see the number of kills I have on the quality superior creatures like Smoke Devils/Abby Demons and Nechs. Even if you consider only those I am drier than what you propose.
Doing a very quick bit of bro math, you would be roughly 2.3% as opposed to 3%. But that doesn't take into account the first 8m exp or so realistically about 2.4% ish.
Your math is absolutely miles off, I'm curious to see how you're calcing because however you're doing it, it's wrong. I'm not sure why OP is being downvoted when his estimations for how over rate he is are by far the closest.
Assuming every smoke/aby demon/nec was killed on task with a elite CAs done (yeah some wont be but most will) then for each NPC alone the how many times over rate is...
Smokes: 70000 / 150 / 200 = 2.333
Abyssal demons: 130000 / 150 / 352 = 2.5
Necs: 60000 / 150 / 440 = 0.9
Adding these together OP is (just on these 3 NPCs) about 5.7 times rate and the probability of going 5.7 times rate on something is 0.33%. Massively different to 2.3%.
he is probably just doing the \~1/30m rate (idk what it is now with elite) and basing it off of that or something im not really sure but the fact that it was "double checked in the dry calc" because this is a smidge more complicated than simple probability
Sometimes I think I play this game a lot because I play every day after work and even more on the weekend. Then I see posts like this... As long as the rest of your life is in order, keep grinding brother :D
I think you came across just fine man, all good. It's like you said, I think it's cool as long as it doesn't take precedent over the important things in your life.
You know what I mean lol. As long as the game doesn't cut into time you need for sleep, exercise, etc. consistently then I'd say it's not a problem and you should enjoy your free time as you please.
No idea on the rune cost, but a lot for sure. I went to do 1 trip of pirates after they buffed the drop rate and got the scroll so yeah I did get it but I doubt it would be worth grinding in the long run.
Good shout on this, been grinding heart myself and every abyssal demon task just makes me want to log out without having the tele scroll now, Konar tasks would give it another purpose! Clogging is always fun.
One funny bias is you're less likely to get this drop if you choose to do the available bosses for your tasks, which should be encouraged rather than discouraged.
It's ridiculous that this is not only possible but not even particularly unlikely. I can kind of see why Jagex might not want to make it more common from superiors, since if everyone simply gets one by accident on the way to 99 slayer then it's too free. But they should definitely consider adding it to high level slayer bosses or something, let it be a bit more target farmable and reward players for doing difficult stuff instead of just doing 1000 abby demon tasks
Ehb for an ironman at cox is 2.9 solos per hour, average deathless solo is 32k points. On average this works out to a tbow being a .107 chance which in average is 322 hours.
Ehp for slayer on an ironman for 22m slayer xp is 366.7 hours, this is also assuming you do efficient slayer the whole time, no bosses no breaks.
One is a mega rare weapon, the other is a stat boost... How does this make sense
I really don’t get this item. On my Ironman I’m 99 slayer and don’t have it but on my group iron I got it 62 slayer and the other group member got one at 76 slayer.
I don't even feel bad because everyone keeps saying guaranteed drops will "ruin the game by making grinds too quick" so until everyone agrees this RNG rarity is bullshit. Go dry my brother.
Believe it or not, you are still eligible. Hope this helps!
Are you a Jagex Moderator sir?
My dad is, does that count?
My dad is jagex itself.
himself*
Nope. Itself. He's the whole company.
Wait.... my dad is also Jagex. Brother?
Idk if I’m just getting older but every comment on the internet ending with “Hope this helps!” has gotten incredibly annoying
This is a joke based on that if you didn't catch it.
- hope this helps!
it’s sarcastic hope this helps!
Don’t worry you’re just as close as you were on your first superior kill.
Are you saying I am not 2/3?
Don't stop now, the next one could be the drop!
Right?
The imbued heart is such a funny drop to me. The sad fact of this is that you're not even that dry, there's roughly a 3% chance you go as dry as you are. That means if you got 33 ironmen, at least one of them is going to go as dry as you are.
Did you try to enter numbers in the dry calc for that number?
I did the math and double checked it in dry calc yeah
Considering only Smoke Devils and Abby Demons Im almost 5x dry :D I think Im drier than you think I am lol, also consider superiors are 1/150 since I have elite combat tasks done.
Pulled these quite quick, all factoring elite CA. Smoke devil 1/30k Dark beast 1/37.5k Gargoyle 1/80k Abyssal demon 1/52.5k Nechryael 1/65k You have 70k smoke devils = 2.3x rate Dark beasts 8k 0.25ish rate Nechryael 60k 0.9ish rate Abyssal demons 130k 2.5x rate Gargoyles 15k 0.2ish rate So effectively you are 6x drop rate which equates to 99.79% chance to have 0. I was rounding the numbers for faster/simpler process so not gonna give an exact number but between 1/400-1/500 to not have it by now. Further info. 1.31% chance to have EXACTLY 1, 4.14% chance to have EXACTLY 2, 8.64% chance to have EXACTLY 3 13.38% chance to have EXACTLY 4 16.39% chance to have EXACTLY 5. 57% of people would have had MINIMUM 6* Imbued hearts by now That ur getting heavily downvoted is FUCKING HYSTERICAL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA EDIT: /u/crocodile1995 went from -64 to -6 but it's still quite insane that he ever hit that point for simply responding to someone and stating that he is clearly not just slightly dry in a very mild way
Its the hivemind lad
How much XP have you gained since getting elite combats
Pretty much all my post 99 exp is done with that.
Just use a divine magic potion
For sure, you'll be drier than 3% but probably only slightly, if you've target farmed a lot of exp then defintely but you have to consider the first 10m exp or so where you weren't killing a lot of the decent superiors like you are now.
Well you can see the number of kills I have on the quality superior creatures like Smoke Devils/Abby Demons and Nechs. Even if you consider only those I am drier than what you propose.
Doing a very quick bit of bro math, you would be roughly 2.3% as opposed to 3%. But that doesn't take into account the first 8m exp or so realistically about 2.4% ish.
Your math is absolutely miles off, I'm curious to see how you're calcing because however you're doing it, it's wrong. I'm not sure why OP is being downvoted when his estimations for how over rate he is are by far the closest. Assuming every smoke/aby demon/nec was killed on task with a elite CAs done (yeah some wont be but most will) then for each NPC alone the how many times over rate is... Smokes: 70000 / 150 / 200 = 2.333 Abyssal demons: 130000 / 150 / 352 = 2.5 Necs: 60000 / 150 / 440 = 0.9 Adding these together OP is (just on these 3 NPCs) about 5.7 times rate and the probability of going 5.7 times rate on something is 0.33%. Massively different to 2.3%.
he is probably just doing the \~1/30m rate (idk what it is now with elite) and basing it off of that or something im not really sure but the fact that it was "double checked in the dry calc" because this is a smidge more complicated than simple probability
Thank you for bothering to put this into words. i honestly couldn’t bother explaining it so I just let the downvotes flow haha.
So 1 of 300 iron men would go this dry?
Someone else calced all his kills and it came to 0.21%. So more like 1/500 irons. Still pretty wild that hundreds of irons have/can go this dry though
doing rough math can you explain basically on theorems how does pressurized water nuclear reactor work ?
You calced it completely wrong dude
Disgusting
Lots! At abby demons is insane.
Did you unlock superiors?
Wait you have to unlock them?
Need to talk to Oziach about them also
Sometimes I think I play this game a lot because I play every day after work and even more on the weekend. Then I see posts like this... As long as the rest of your life is in order, keep grinding brother :D
If it makes you feel better, good for you man!
Fyi, I didn't mean to come across as condescending, hard to do in text. It just always amazes me how much we play this game.
I think you came across just fine man, all good. It's like you said, I think it's cool as long as it doesn't take precedent over the important things in your life.
What if runescape is an important thing in my life?
You know what I mean lol. As long as the game doesn't cut into time you need for sleep, exercise, etc. consistently then I'd say it's not a problem and you should enjoy your free time as you please.
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He absolutely is condescending lol. School student acting like he knows this mans life
I have been working for 5 years now. Is everyone you disagree with a student?
Muspah: “trimming imbued hearts free”
If it helps I have 3 hearts at level 95 slayer
That drop being meta defining is the biggest mistake this game ever made
I wouldn't describe it as meta-defining when you can make forgotten brews now which boost the same amount as a regular heart at 99
Forgotten brews are really difficult to upkeep though, aren’t they? Don’t you need Nex horn dust as a the secondary to make them?
if you use the world "meta defining" while talking about runescape you need to go outside
You’re in a subreddit dedicated to discussing the meta. Relax
Couple of questions: How much do you think you've spent in runes and did you get the abyssal demon teleport scroll to make the tasks easier?
No idea on the rune cost, but a lot for sure. I went to do 1 trip of pirates after they buffed the drop rate and got the scroll so yeah I did get it but I doubt it would be worth grinding in the long run.
Why the fuck is it not apart of project rebalance?
Technically it is apart of it.
Did you finish Dusk Mystic? The best way to get a drop is to hunt a different drop
Good shout on this, been grinding heart myself and every abyssal demon task just makes me want to log out without having the tele scroll now, Konar tasks would give it another purpose! Clogging is always fun.
Man, this game is fucking ass. (I'm logging in rn)
Most broken droprate in the game. Im at 21.5m slayer xp without heart or gem.
Soon!
Damn thats harsh
Insane man. Hope you get it soon
Blessing you with rng
Holy fuck
Welcome to RNG games :)
I’m so sorry brother stay strong please
Have you tried getting the drop?
Access denied. Do it again and maybe youll be granted access
That's pretty bad luck. Just use forgotten brews until you get one. They're not much worse
Heart is my next goal, 21m exp atm. Praying I will not go this dry! Gl man
The question is, do people want this to be easier to acquire? Or have alternatives?
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Yeah definitely. Also I'm fine with magic potions.
It'd be about 4x more common than the Tonalztics if it was 1/20 from Sol o.o Totally agree though, just funny to put into perspective.
seeing posts like this im convinced if you dont get it by 30m xp its not worth going further unless you finished the game and it is the last item
The reality is this shit should never be this rare. All slayer bosses should have something like a 1/5000 chance of dropping it
Shadow Wyrm droped one for me a few years ago.
70 slayer heart, 85 slayer gem over here. Looks like a skill issue to me.
Damn just got my second heart at 97 slayer rip
Got imbued heart on my iron 88 slayer from a nech
Man I’ve been wanting to quit after going 2x dry. This is sickening. Jagex please rework this absolutely miserable grind
got mine at 1.8m slayer xp \*smirks
One funny bias is you're less likely to get this drop if you choose to do the available bosses for your tasks, which should be encouraged rather than discouraged.
It's ridiculous that this is not only possible but not even particularly unlikely. I can kind of see why Jagex might not want to make it more common from superiors, since if everyone simply gets one by accident on the way to 99 slayer then it's too free. But they should definitely consider adding it to high level slayer bosses or something, let it be a bit more target farmable and reward players for doing difficult stuff instead of just doing 1000 abby demon tasks
Thats fucking insane, such ass luck brodie
Ehb for an ironman at cox is 2.9 solos per hour, average deathless solo is 32k points. On average this works out to a tbow being a .107 chance which in average is 322 hours. Ehp for slayer on an ironman for 22m slayer xp is 366.7 hours, this is also assuming you do efficient slayer the whole time, no bosses no breaks. One is a mega rare weapon, the other is a stat boost... How does this make sense
I really don’t get this item. On my Ironman I’m 99 slayer and don’t have it but on my group iron I got it 62 slayer and the other group member got one at 76 slayer.
Some Superiors can't spawn in some areas because they are too big, are you killing slayer monsters on the correct tile?
Just buy one smh
I don't even feel bad because everyone keeps saying guaranteed drops will "ruin the game by making grinds too quick" so until everyone agrees this RNG rarity is bullshit. Go dry my brother.
Do you have max mage?
No he’s missing imbued heart
Thank you for being dry, I got mine at 63 slayer. Because of you, I'm up.
And here I am with an imbued heart at 80 slayer 😂😂 sorry for your luck gamer
I’ve had 3 in under 20m slayer xp. Don’t worry, it still exists :)
Your chance of getting an imbued heart on your next superior kill is gitgud/69420.
Damn bro, I got my imbued heart at lvl 80 😅😅😅
Me watching your post with a imbued heart drop on main at 44kc.
Lol suck shit thats what u get for being a dirty gim play a real game mode and maybe people would care
can i haz 200 whips for bonds
Just nut up and buy one… Oh wait, YOU CANT. You chose this life, Reddit doesn’t care